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Lord Prescott strongly supports the return of Chagossians to Diego Garcia
British ex Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott has made a powerful intervention in the campaign to grant Chagossians the right to return to their homeland, reports the UK Chagos Support Association. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI fully support the return of he Chaggosians.
Feb 17th, 2015 - 05:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please form an orderly queue if:
1) you were forcibly evicted
2) at no time since have you accepted money for full and final settlement
3) a full and detailed plan as to how you will fund the infrastructure needed to support freshwater and food supplies.
If you meet all three requirements, the UK should drop you at an island of your choice.
Crikey - if Prescott supports them, then the Mauritians who call themselves Chagossians are in more trouble that I thought !
Feb 17th, 2015 - 06:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now is the perfect time to charge the U.S. more rent.
Feb 17th, 2015 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Typical British politician putting foreigners ahead of the British National interest.
The sons of Prescott, Kinnock, Blair (God help us) and Straw all lined up to serve us up more of the same incompetent, self serving, rubbish.
What a load of tosh, they are not indigenous people, Without these Islands many military operations across the Middles East could not have taken place. Prescoot you muppet shut up your time is over, go to bed with a pie mate... its getting too late in the day for your BS
Feb 17th, 2015 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not forgetting Peter Hain, from the same mould .
Feb 17th, 2015 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0None of them are exactly destitute.
Yet their priorities are definitely not pro-uk or UK interests.
Perhaps “he who ate all the pies” would like to acompany the 'so called' natives when they return to the islands.
Feb 17th, 2015 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let there be no cash alternative or UK subsidy and I will be happy.
;-)
Shagger Prescott!
Feb 17th, 2015 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, how I laughed when I saw the picture of Shagger with that trollop in his arms cradling her like a baby whale after a round of croquet at Chequers.
Now he is making himself look an even bigger cunt than he did at Kyoto by sticking his oar in again.
Well, he is a Labour moron, ex head of the sea workers or something union, so being full of shit comes naturally to him.
“Speculating why the Government has been so keen to support the Falkland Islanders and so opposed to Chagossian return, Lord Prescott notes that the former are “white.” ”
Feb 17th, 2015 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0That statement alone shows what a prat he really is.
I've not heard that we have any intention of giving up our base there.
Feb 17th, 2015 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Has anyone else?
@1. Nicely put. If I understand your points correctly, the top limit on those who 'might' return is some 2,000 individuals. Who left the area in a period up to 1973. That's 42 years ago. Any so-called 'chagossian' born after 1973 wouldn't be eligible. I wonder if those that 'might' return think there are shops and things? I doubt that the United States will permit access to their base facilities. How would they get the US dollars? There are 3,000 to 5,000 US troops there. Where are the so-called 'chagossians' going to live? It would be complicated by the £5 million in cash paid by the British government and the £1 million in land provided by the Mauritian government. Down to 1,419 individuals. All been paid. More than £3,500 each. Does it count if they repay the money? Updated to current values, of course. So, about £12,000 each.
Feb 17th, 2015 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4. Quite right. There were no indigenous 'chagossians'. Africans, Indians and Malays.
@8. How dare you call him a prat? He is so much more! He's a pillock who even failed his 11-plus. He was, supposedly, the common link between the 'New' Labour Party and the peasants that supported it. The emphasis being on the word 'common'. There are still quite a few of those numpties left.
@9. A difficult situation. Is the United States given to acting illegally? Do you have information that the lease has been extended? If not, it runs out in December 2016. Such an extension needed to have been agreed by December 2014. Have you paid your additional rent? I recall that the US is planning to close a number of its 'facilities' in the UK. Does that mean we can have our airbases back? No access to Gibraltar for US vessels? No access to Cyprus? We like to think of ourselves as 'cousins'. Which is not an excuse for high-handedly screwing us.
@10
Feb 17th, 2015 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed..if you are one of the 2000 “evicted” and have never accepted full and final settlement then you should have leave to return....my guess is that half the 2000 will be dead or very aged, and most of the other half would have taken the money...so maybe 50 or so people max.
You will return with absolutely what you left with, which is precisely nothing, and be out-numbered by the personnel on the airbase and have no access to their infrastructure or fresh water.
So, a kind of Pitcairn scenario except no fresh water....good luck...if you can make a go of it.
I poked around a bit looking for base closings and DG is not on any list that i could find.
Feb 17th, 2015 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the USA was planning on leaving it would have been announced by now and some sort of planning involved.
My guess is they're going to extend the lease.
The case for return of the people of the Chagoss Islands is extremely strong - they were kicked out without warning by the British government to make way for a US military base - so much for British national sovereignty. This is another example of a noticeable 'cultural trait' of the British political elite - the capacity to adopt a 'softer' stance on domestic and international issues once they leave office. The hypocrisy is clear as daylight since they know they views will now have minimal influence whereas, while in office, their tongues remain tied to US global policy objectives.
Feb 17th, 2015 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The EU court in Strasbourg ruled that the Diego Garcia Islands case was inadmissible because the applicants had already been granted due legal process in Britain, and had accepted financial compensation from the British government in the 1980s.
Feb 17th, 2015 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/9758451/Chagos-Islanders-defeated-in-European-Court.html
Bit more digging...apparently only 12 individuals meet my first two requirements set out in post 1).
Feb 17th, 2015 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, of the 1100 evicted, 1098 have either accepted full and final compensation or have died.
So just 12 individuals.
I'd say let them return....without fresh water it should be a straightforward and short lived problem
P.s.
I doubt even these 12 wish to return.....more likely they want more Compensation!
@13. You really need to keep up and do some research. But let's go with it. £12,000 each to repay the British government. But check out @15. The British government still has to be repaid. And the price has just gone up to £667,000 each. And, as stated at 15, no fresh water. It's a marine conservation area. No fishing. No food.
Feb 17th, 2015 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0one would like to think that if Lord Prescott and others want this,
Feb 17th, 2015 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0then eye suspect there is more to this than meats the eye,
politicians can never be trusted,
there must be some cash in it for some MP somewhere.
“very reasonable point”, wot two shags!!!
Feb 17th, 2015 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Doesn’t explain how human habitation of the Islands has become any more sustainable in the last 50 years.
Or why Prescott didn’t do anything about this when he was deputy PM and in a position to do something.
To busy playing croquet no doubt.
At some point in the not too distant no doubt the US will move operations to higher ground somewhere else.
“They are few in number, but they have the right to live in peace, to choose their own way of life, and determine their own allegiance.”.
Feb 17th, 2015 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Funny how another set of Islanders were regarded by the UK government.
Lord Prescott notes that the former are “white
Feb 17th, 2015 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TUT tut,
if it was the other way around Mr twit,
you would almost certainly be arrested,
this twat is certainly up to something,
or is it just a ruse as the election is not far away,
Well done to Lord Prescott. Good to see someone who thinks not only of immediate $elf intere$t. Im sure the Chagossians will even be open minded and willing to meet with some compromise in order to return to their home.
Feb 17th, 2015 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEnAT1x6eig
Ben Fogle speaks to Geroge Galloway Chagossian 2015 Return Campaign
Well,
Feb 17th, 2015 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0someone's going to be paid,
and someone's going to be robbed...
lets see what faggot roberts had to say about the issue
Feb 17th, 2015 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“”We do not regret the removal of the population since removal was necessary for [Diego Garcia] to fulfil its strategic purpose,“ Colin Roberts added under a passage that the Americans headed ”Je ne regrette rien”.
british hypocrisy once more.
and tell roberts to stop dying his hair.
faggot + ridiculous.
Whose Robert
Feb 17th, 2015 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who cares what Robert says? Who cares what Prescott says, he was just a joke when Labour was in office, punching egg throwers and porking his secretary on his desk. Thats all he was known for. All the Tories stood up and asked him to bring them a G and T when he stood up to speak in the house. And now we have the Architectural faggot of Villa 13 and Jack Sprat Technical College trying to lecture us! As if anyone is going to take any notice of these clowns… ?
Feb 17th, 2015 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Diego Garcia is a useful base in the worldwide network of Anglo American bases across the world to keep a beady eye on the scroats, just like the Falkland Islands
or keeping an eye on those nasty argies.
Feb 17th, 2015 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently one of the Chagossian Islands has a high rainfall.
Feb 17th, 2015 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@15 Monkey magic
“So just 12 individuals...I'd say let them return....without fresh water it should be a straightforward and short lived problem”
Any that were evacuated should have a chance (if practical) to live on the small island with the high rainfall.
However, if they were compensated financially for leaving that has to be taken into account.
”Speculating why the Government has been so keen to support the Falkland Islanders and so opposed to Chagossian return, Lord Prescott notes that the former are “white.”
Not all Falkland Islanders are white skinned and Prescott's evaluation is like himself -thick and moronic.
27 and others - dont hate Mr Prescott because of the guilt you feel.
Feb 17th, 2015 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@27
Feb 18th, 2015 - 02:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0I would happily organise a boat for the 12 people to return to any island with or without high rainfall.
I am just not sure what they think they will be able to do once they are there.
28 Vestige
Feb 18th, 2015 - 03:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is this guilt we feel ?
“the UK received an £11 million discount on Polaris nuclear weapons in exchange for deporting the Chagossians”
Feb 18th, 2015 - 04:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Like the Brits in Malvinas, the Chagossians were approximately 2,000 in number. Unlike the Brits in Malvinas they were dark skinned and not of British ancestry.
”As can be seen, British imperialism has no permanent principles, only permanent interests.
So Marcos...
Feb 18th, 2015 - 05:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0You think we shouldn't have evicted the Chagossians (but left them to starve)...but we should evict the Falkland Islanders.
Like all Malvinistas Marcos has no principles or standards.
Colour or race do not come into it .
Feb 18th, 2015 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Take the case of Imber Village in Wiltshire : From Wiki .
Imber is an uninhabited village in part of the British Army's training grounds on the Salisbury Plain, Wiltshire, England. It is situated in an isolated area of the Plain, about 2.5 miles (4 km) west of the A360 road between Tilshead and West Lavington. The entire civilian population was evicted in 1943 to provide an exercise area for American troops preparing for the invasion of Europe during the Second World War. After the war, villagers were not allowed to return to their homes. The village, which is now part of the civil parish of Heytesbury, remains under the control of the Ministry of Defence despite several attempts by former residents to return. Non-military access is limited to several open days a year.[1]
What rights do the residents of the two hydroelectric dams in Santa Cruz have ?
Diego Garcia is a total non story . Move along now .
Hmmm...let's see.
Feb 18th, 2015 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The case for moving the remaining 1100 inhabitants of Chagos was one of National Security. All bar 12 have received (and accepted) full and final legal settlement. The remaining 12 must be in their 60-70s by now and hardly likely to really want to resettle on islands with no infrastructure, freshwater or other inhabitants outside of a military base.
This sounds awfully like a lawyers pursuit for extra compensation.
However, there are an enormous number of reasons to keep the Falklands.
The first and most important is that there is no reason not to. legally, morally, historically the islanders can do as they please. If, for whatever reason it became urgent to use the islands for National Security, I am sure the correct discussions could be made.
A terrible reason to give up the islands would be because a third rate, lying, fascist, corrupt scumhole has spent the last 60 years lying to its schoolchildren about them....oh yes, and because it annoys Marcos.
Couldn't hate Prescott. He is just an illiterate idiot who is best ignored.
Feb 18th, 2015 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The bloke has been wrong about just about everything but hey look at Argentina.
@ Monkeymagic
Feb 18th, 2015 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A “return” has only become the issue since more “full and final” compensation has been ruled out by the courts, all of them.
The issue is that if the British Gov agrees to, or facilitates a “return”, then they would be accepting a duty of care not to let them starve/die of thirst or get eaten by sharks.
The Falklands require only protection from the British, any settlement in the Chagos would require absolutely everything except protection.
Nothing to stop them hiring a ship to take themselves back there.
@ 23 paulcedron
Are you arguing that the British should do more evictions i.e. the Falklands, or less i.e. the Chagos.
It’s an either or question, so if you think really hard even you should be able to come up with an answer.
@ 31 Marcos Alejandro
Perhaps we should follow some Argentinian principles and “flying Nun” them somewhere over the Indian Ocean and call it a repatriation.
Or just have them “suicided” and claim its part of a Malvinista plot to bring down the British Gov.
Pablo /Marcos : I'd be far more concerned with battalions of Chinese troops which will be invading the mainland , invited there to “ protect” the space station that Kletina has allowed the Chinese to build in Bajada del Agrio . Oh , without seeking Congressional approval by the way .
Feb 18th, 2015 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0she's selling the country from under you , you camporista dummies .
http://www.tfp.org/tfp-home/news-commentary/chinese-space-base-in-patagonia-fit-for-military-purpose.html
37 - whatever next - will Argentina suck Chinas ass so much that it will follow it into an illegal war some day, so becoming known worldwide as Chinas poodle.
Feb 18th, 2015 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently the Argies may well be after a few of these on the cheap,
Feb 18th, 2015 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The next Chinese Navy shock. The 055A “Burke-inese”
http://snafu-solomon.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/the-next-chinese-navy-shock-055a-burke.html
Two years.
That's when this ship is expected to enter production. Between 2018 and 2020. When they reach critical mass with this Burke-killer, that is when the US Navy will be credibly challenged at sea
So they say….
CHINITINA the kid on the block...
@ 39 Briton
Feb 18th, 2015 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0China will have a new way of trialling / testing this 'new' ship: they only have to give it to the argies and it will sink as soon as it gets out into the power of the sea.
One thing is for sure, it won't have a Chin made turbine propulsion set in it, they still cannot make one that stays in one piece under power.
;o)
Can you ever imagine Chine giving CFK these toys to play with,
Feb 18th, 2015 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0she would as you say, sink em im weeks .lol
@38 Vestige,
Feb 19th, 2015 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is already kissing China's arse/ass.
You are not their poodle, more like their guinea pig.
l doubt very much that China will ever use Argentine troops.
They can do it all themselves without help/hindrance from a motley shower of incompetent wouldbe heroes.
Anyway, they don't need any Nuns or Students pushed out of Aircraft, at the moment.
Go back to sleep.
The Chinese eat dogs......and cats.
Feb 19th, 2015 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@38 Vestige
Feb 19th, 2015 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Given China is in dispute with all its maritime neighbours, over Island groups scattered across half the Western Pacific, conflict (legal or otherwise) is an almost certain outcome at some point.
Argentina’s grand strategic alliance with China, with the mutual support for each other’s ambitions of colonial expansion, cost you in S. Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam, Malaysia, Philippines and probably Indonesia as well.
All of whom have one vote in the UNGA. Tibet and Turkmenistan however don’t.
China will expect every argentine to do his/her duty first to defend china,
Feb 19th, 2015 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0before china will commit to defending you,
1, where is your ships , planes , soldiers ,
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