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Former French Olympic sports' figures die in helicopter collision in Argentina
Two helicopters have collided in mid-air in northern Argentina, killing 10 people including cast members filming a French reality show, officials said. The crash happened Monday afternoon in a mountainous part of La Rioja, a scenic area popular with tourists, around 1,100 kilometres north of the capital Buenos Aires. Read full article
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Mar 10th, 2015 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0I bet they were argie pilots with no experience of this kind of work.
Mar 10th, 2015 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Usually these guys are among the very best of acrobatic helicopter pilots in the world, except in TDC.
Very sad for those who relied on them.
You can just imagine the investigation: hairy arsed argies from the local intendencia claiming 'it was nothing to do with them'. I bet the French paid through the nose to get their licences to do this work.
RIP, very sad.
Mar 10th, 2015 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0christine
Mar 10th, 2015 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0when there are 10 dead in an accident, the least you can do is to show some respect.
not a surprise, though.
Here´s something that should raise some questions:
Mar 10th, 2015 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why were 2 province-owned helicopters being used there? Provinces usually buy those helicopters claiming they will be used for medical support / fire fight, etc.
5. Bribes.
Mar 10th, 2015 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would NEVER get in an Rg helicopter. I stopped flying Aerolineas long ago because they don't maintain it.
I feel bad for those people but its the arrogance of the 1st worlders that think the 3rd world maintains equipment and knows how to use it. They always do things like we'd do here without questioning and it gets them into trouble.
stop lying.
Mar 10th, 2015 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0none of you feel bad for these people.
au contraire, you love the fact that a deadly accident has occurred in argentina.
sadly there are just 2 argies between the dead, no?
you cannot even be compared with beasts.
basofias humanas.
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Mar 10th, 2015 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course we feel sorry for the next of kin, but you have to ask about the competence of the pilots, comon crashing into one another not the best of skills is it ? I wonder if they BOUGHT the pilots licences, after all it is TDC, there again the investigation will go on forever with no definitive answer.
Video show the crash: the one pilot simply flies into the other helicopter.
Mar 10th, 2015 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-31819952
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No doubt it will end up being the fault of one of the french passengers... but unless France gets its own investigators over there the chance of finding out the truth will be negligible.
In the meantime the available evidence smacks of pilot error.
Paul,
Mar 10th, 2015 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is nothing here to support your allegations.
You over-state your case here, but your vitriol is probably the result of years of over-statement, supporting the unsupportable.
Why tilt at these windmills against the greatest self-evident odds?
For those of us that have been around awhile on this board. There's a pattern of Rg and other posters claiming not to be Rgs but clearly they are... that start out reasonable and fun to chat with then they go off the deep end and act liek lunatics.
Mar 10th, 2015 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They need medical help.
They don't offer anything to the conversation so its best to ignore them.
geoff
Mar 10th, 2015 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“There is nothing here to support your allegations.”
here in this thread?
or in this 4th class site?
surely you will change your mind when you read the posts of prats like conqueror, ilsen, toy and the list goes on and on.
12 Pablo - everyone hates us Said Drone
Mar 10th, 2015 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pablo Paulo,
What did I say?
“Sad story”, as I recall.
Stop picking fights where they don't exist.
6 - know the feeling, I'd never fly American Airlines, or in fact any airline to New York in general. Too risky.
Mar 10th, 2015 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The Argentine pilots were named as Juan Carlos Castillo and Roberto Abate.”
Mar 10th, 2015 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, I was correct then they were argie pilots. How many aerobatic helicopter pilots does TDC have? NONE that I can find.
POLLY: what do you think that “Very sad for those who relied on them.” [the argie pilots] means?
Idiota.
14 Vestige
Mar 10th, 2015 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“6 - know the feeling, I'd never fly American Airlines, or in fact any airline to New York in general. Too risky.”
Vestige,
Very poor taste, snide, insensitive, and callous of you, on many levels.
Pablo - I'm a victim - Cedrone... will surely censure you... or not.
“”surely you will change your mind when you read the posts of prats like conqueror, “””
Mar 10th, 2015 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0surely you will change your tune when you watch the video showing the one pilot flying straight into the other one... duh!
(that said, conqer-er is, as you say)
4 paulcedron (#)
Mar 10th, 2015 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mar 10th, 2015 - 12:15 pm
when there are 10 dead in an accident, the least you can do is to show some respect
that's coming from a twat that gets of on insulting others.
Troy you're as genuine as a 6.9 dollar bill.
Mar 10th, 2015 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A transparent one too. Just stop.
You know if you don't read the Names to the left and just read the comments its very hard to tell the difference between Voice, Vestige or Think.
Mar 10th, 2015 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sistahs through and through.
19 Vestige
Mar 10th, 2015 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please show me that I am not “genuine”.
I'll repeat your own genuine sentiments,
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“6 - know the feeling, I'd never fly American Airlines, or in fact any airline to New York in general. Too risky.”
Bad enough there has been a tragic misadventure in South America, now you have to find s way to rub the unrelated atrocity of 9-11 in everyone's face.
22. Troy, give up the Sistahs are nothing more than undereducated, low class nobodies at the end of their uneventful and irrelevant lives.
Mar 10th, 2015 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They're bitter, lonely, envious and hate anyone who's happy.
I've been dealing with those types my whole life.
Best to roll your eyes and move on
They're as forgettable as they think they are...
briton
Mar 10th, 2015 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“that's coming from a twat that gets of on insulting others.”
and that is coming from a twat who is insulting the others right now.
anyway, guess you are pretty imbecile to differentiate insults from mocking about the death of hundreds of people, no?
as for what you people think in general, here you have some examples of the usual comments about deadly accidents in argentina,
Train crash in Buenos Aires leaves 49 dead and at least 600 injured
”3 GreekYoghurt (#)
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 11:39 am
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It seems like nothing can stop an Argentinian train, not the brakes, not the buffers, and not the non-white people that they keep pushing under them.”
Second bus-train accident in Buenos Aires leaves 90 people injured
1 Conqueror (#)
Sep 16th, 2011 - 04:26 pm
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Wow! That's sad. Still, it's up to the usual Argentine standard. A death wish. Are you going to try invading something that isn't yours again soon?
March and blackout to remember victims of Buenos Aires worst train station accident
2 yankeeboy (#)
Feb 22nd, 2013 - 01:51 pm
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Are Argentinians stupid of lazy?
23 Pablo
Mar 11th, 2015 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Had a good look did you Pablo??
You were gone for a long time, searching.
Nothing on me, right??
So, what happened ? Pilot error?
@ all posters here
Mar 11th, 2015 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0we can see that I am 'pre-judice' by paul-cedron when I haven't even posted on this thread!
”12 paulcedron (#)
[... surely you will change your mind when you read the posts of prats like conqueror, ilsen, toy and the list goes on and ...]
Wanker!
I only came on this thread to offer my condolences to all those involved, and their families'.
What utter scum this penguin-cedron is....
He just wants to avoid the fact that two 'macho' Argentine pilots have just killed some Olympian Sport-Stars.
And themselves. The Fools.
When will these people 'grow-up' and start behaving like adults?
Stop showing-off when you have lives at risk. Idiots!
Let's be fair. This could have happened anywhere. It would not have been reported internationally if there had not been high-profile sports stars involved.
Mar 11th, 2015 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0It was an accident, that's all. It appears that the second helicopter flew underneath the leading one and clipped it. Pilot error, mechanical error ?
The enquiry will find out. Helicopters have the highest accident rate in air accidents.
I once had a “jolly” in a Bell Jetranger and did not enjoy the experience.
It felt unnatural to be held aloft by propellers whirling overhead. At least with wings you have a chance of gliding down to earth.
By a coincidence as I type, a RN Sea King SAR helicopter has flown about 100 metres from my house, no doubt on a mercy mission to pick up a medical emergency , search for a lost hillwalker or practice with the local RNLI lifeboat.
We have the busiest SAR base in the UK just 4 miles from where I stay.
These lads fly out to sea to rescue mariners from sinking or disabled vessels in weather when I would not go out the front door ! Likewise rescuing stranded climbers trapped in blizzard conditions or medivac. trips to the remoter west coast islands. It's quite humbling to think that we still can find men AND women to willingly risk their lives to help others.
Death,
Mar 11th, 2015 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0is never nice and always sad,
the trouble with paulie is that he sadly uses others comments to try and justify his own actions,
most here do not , will not , and never will insult the victims of these and other sad accidents,
this is a sad event , all I can say is, may they rest in peace , and the investigators find the cause for the sake of the relatives and all concerned.
just me...
very well troy, if you insist - how exactly is mentioning 9/11 in the context of an air accident story callous ?
Mar 11th, 2015 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really you should just stop now. Stop using a tragedy as a means for your petty argumentativeness. Show some respect.
I think you all will find, once the investigation is completed, that the upper helicopter lost power and fell onto the lower one. As they were at no more that 100 meters above the ground neither pilot had time to autorotate for a safe landing.
Mar 11th, 2015 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have spent something in the region of 500 hours flying in helicopters over forest fires in Argentina and would say that Argentine helicopter pilots are as good as any in the business. There can be issues over certifiable maintenance due to lack of available spares, but in general aircraft maintenance, with some glaring exceptions, is pretty good.
I hope this helps to understand what might have happened. At a guess the loss of power could be due to bad JP1.
28 vestige
Mar 11th, 2015 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ - how exactly is mentioning 9/11 in the context of an air accident story callous ?”
Vestige,
You know full well, your tone was snide, and a tragic accident of a mid air collision of two helicopters in Argentina has no relevance whatsoever with a deliberate political terrorist act of mirdering thousands of people by slamming civilian airliners into buildings.
It was a calculated remark by YOU, to be as offensive as possible.
You have shown us all that you are a callous opportunist.
Stop pretending otherwise.
Of course, you might apologise...
#28
Mar 11th, 2015 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you SO thick that you equate an act of mass murder to an accident.
I suppose that is Argentine logic at it's finest.
TroyTransparent - so what you're saying is that a callous opportunist would use a story of a tragedy to make an offensive or politically motivated remark ? Or is that incorrect - please, do tell.
Mar 11th, 2015 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I refer you to comment #6.
Could you please explain why you chose to focus on my comment rather than yankees.
Was it possibly due to your political preferences/motives ?
I hope for your own sake you don't do this in real life. People aren't so dim as you wish.
You're welcome.
32 Vestige,
Mar 12th, 2015 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Though I may find your comments vile and abhorrent, I am free to say so without being obligated to challenge every remark on MP.
You are perfectly capable of taking Ysnkeeboy to task yourself, if you disagree with him.
Actually, you probably aren't.
comment #24. Author: Troy Tempest.
Mar 12th, 2015 - 01:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0“You were gone for a long time, searching.
Nothing on me, right??
So, what happened ? Pilot error?”
34 vestige
Mar 12th, 2015 - 04:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0What's your point?
Please explain.
Overwhelmingly,
It was either a maintenance issue or pilot error.
35 toy.
Mar 13th, 2015 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It was either a maintenance issue or pilot error.”
wow.
very, very intelligent of you, toy.
i have always said it, this toy guy is a genius.
We had a helicopter lose power and crash into a pub in Glasgow with disastrous results. Over a year later they still cannot pin-point why the accident happened.
Mar 13th, 2015 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It had fuel but experienced a sudden flame-out. Both rotors had stopped indicating fuel starvation.
@ 29 Simon68
Mar 14th, 2015 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“At a guess the loss of power could be due to bad JP1.”
I seen to recall a problem like this with YPF about three years ago but I cannot find it on MP.
In your experience does this happen often?
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