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Argentina's message to UK and US: “utterly ridiculous considering any regional country a threat.”
Addressing the Americas summit in Panama, Argentine president Cristina Fernandez strongly criticized United States policies towards the hemisphere, particularly Venezuela, and expressed 'surprise' at the parallelism between the Caracas/Washington current dispute and the latest round of Falklands' exchanges between London and her government. President Barack Obama was not present during the Argentine leader's speech on Saturday. Read full article
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Apr 12th, 2015 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a nut!!
“Nobody can believe that the UK has declared that Argentina remains a risk, a threat to the Malvinas Islands: it is utterly absurd.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse 01st - didn't NASA find the Malvinas in the sea of tranquillity lool
2nd - YOUR 'Government' has already stated you would attack the Falklands if the British garrison wasn't there. Shut up and start to engage yer brain (IF you've got one) before engaging yer gob!
“Nobody can believe that the UK has declared that Argentina remains a risk, a threat to the Malvinas Islands: it is utterly absurd. But ”I must also confess I was surprised at the similarity of stances: in my country we have suffered terrible dictatorships, but with them they (both) had cordial relations“. and “”here is the UK declaring my country a threat to its own territory, the Malvinas Islands: 2.3% of UK’s budget is allocated to defense. It is also absurd”
Apr 12th, 2015 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Big deal - what strange statements! She really is a ”payasa“ right out of the circus! But a loneliest she admits that the Falklands/Malvinas are British territory!(viz:”my country a threat to its own territory”}
She's just got her nose out of joint because Obama stole her show.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0typically bigmouth ck: coming too late and holding the worst speach.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0@3
Apr 12th, 2015 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ my country a threat to its own territory” could be lost in translation, ( give her the benefit of doubt ) or maybe she was so insensed that she made a mistake. No, just a stupid cow
”history teaches, not to remember, but to understand why things happened in the past“.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0A truism if ever I heard one. We were caught napping in 1982 because we did not believe the threat and have taken action to remedy this.
Vile woman
Apr 12th, 2015 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0In the limited amount of time Mrs Kirchner has left, it was predictable that she would get even more excitable and incoherent.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dear CFK,
Apr 12th, 2015 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your so-called sovereignty claim is utterly ridiculous. Stop making a fool of yourself.
https://www.academia.edu/10490336/Argentinas_Illegitimate_Sovereignty_Claims
She looks like a blow up doll when she's ranting.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0If no one is a threat then why is Argieland trying to buy military equipment?
Apr 12th, 2015 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who are they 'protecting' themselves from?
I see three words that Kirchner doesn't seem to comprehend. 'Threat', 'risk' and 'security'. In the concept of 'security', 'threat' and 'risk' are almost synonomous. It matters not whether the possibility is 0.1%, it's still a 'threat'/'risk'.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Venezuela's 'threat' to the U.S? In 2007, Venezuela 'nationalised' American oil companies. Venezuela accounts for around 800,000 barrels per day of oil imported by the USA. Oil is therefore significant. So is the corruption of Venezuelan 'officials'. And MADurine is a psychotic lunatic.
As for argieland and the Falkland Islands. That old argie minister of defence said that, but for the British garrison, argieland would invade the Islands again. Timdick has 'predicted' that argieland will 'control' the Islands within 20 years. That was 2 years ago. Argieland is attempting to purchase Chinese jet combat aircraft. It will take years. But then, perhaps, a LAN commercial aircraft, like an Airbus A320-200, lands with 150, mostly argie, 'passengers' aboard. The argies turn out to be an assault force that took over the aircraft at Punta Arenas. For the sake of loading their weapons. The assault force mission is to enable the landing of CAS JF-17 fast jets and disable the RAF's Typhoons. There's the threat. JF-17s operating out of Mount Pleasant to cover the arrival of Malvinas class corvettes. Will Britain's Rapier batteries shoot down a Chilean commercial aircraft? Are there enough British troops to keep the Typhoons, Hercules and Voyager safe?
But gord01 has a point, Kirchner has finally admitted that the FALKLAND ISLANDS are British. Thanks for that.
And British troops WILL fight to the death. Because they know how much depends on them. Will a Typhoon get airborne? Then those corvettes will next 'dock' at the bottom of the ocean. Another 120 argies headed for hell!
Looks like they all had a good time then!
Apr 12th, 2015 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ha, ha, ha. That's the best response to this bunch of SA idiots.
It is bizarre that she goes on about “our Malvinas”, (wherever that is) but carries out piratical practices at the same time - impounding Falklands flagged vessels for fishing Argentine waters. This she has done at least three times in recent years, demanding £500,000 reparation fees before letting them go.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It also annoys me that she cites the British military for spending money on replacing systems and refitting accommodation, when she is actually building up her military. What little they have had for the last few years has been adequate - no-one has attacked them, or even shown the inclination to do so. I doubt that the United Kingdom has any great desire to invade RGland!
There is a tangible threat from RGland, look at what Timerman said the other week. And the ravings from mad Alicia. I wouldn't be at all surprised if RGland is, and has, been spying on Mt Pleasant! In fact, I'd be surprised if they hadn't.
She is actually correct, Argentina is of no threat to anyone other than Argentines. It is completely impotent. The problem is it is also completely unstable..
Apr 12th, 2015 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You jealous fools! Glorious President Cristina has humiliated the western predjuiced bullies with the stunning truth of Argentina's rightful possession of the entire South Pacific which includes obviously Las Malvinas that was stolen from Argentina by the thieving English pirates in 1982. Let them hang their heads in total shame for their despicable crimes and finally admit their guilt.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the spirit of this philosophy, Argentina understands therefore that Patagonia in fact belongs rightfully to Chile and asks for forgiveness for illegally occupying their territory.
Basically: “Anglos, we want absolutely NOTHING to do with your pathetic nations and cultures”.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Never talk or come to Argentina again, we don't even want to smell you coming!
So typically peronistic stance, its basically everyone else's fault that Argentina is in such a mess, nothing to do with over the last seven years of their rule the corruption, suicides, grandstanding, threats, and breaking of legal agreements since the Kircheners descended on Argentina like some medieval plague.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No legal agreements were broken. Argentina does not recognize foreign law in Argentina. Tough luck.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Believe it, the Brits do consider Argentina “a threat”, and are now spending 23% of the defence budget nuclear tipping stealth penguins.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mainland South America should be an Anglo-free zone. I hope that agreement is signed and enforced. From the tip of Colombia to Santa Cruz province, no Anglos allowed.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...because Anglos are quite simply the worst people on the planet and we should have nothing to do with them. Just as soon as I figure out a way I will be moving out of the Anglo country I reside in and going back to Argentina. That's a promise.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 020 NOSTRILS
Apr 12th, 2015 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have worn us down.
Frankly, I thought you would be better at negotiating.
You can have Justin Bieber - give us our $100b for the Bondholders
I can see why Toby has changed his MP name. Again.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#23
Apr 12th, 2015 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But what about your social assistance monthly payment? Surely it would require you to get off your fat arse and work for a miserable third world wage. You can't handle that.
@22 Retarded_Troll
Apr 12th, 2015 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you’re desperate to have nothing to do with Super Duper Anglos (understandable given Argy deficiencies in all respects).
Why do you come here just to be humiliated and laughed at by Super Duper Anglos?
Not that we don’t appreciate the entertainment, but the pain and suffering for you must be excruciating.
@18. More of US than you. Do the world a favour. Die!
Apr 12th, 2015 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20. You think? The UN Charter is a legal agreement that argieland breaches every day. Don't 'recognise' it? Then you're 'lawless'. Outside of world society. Common criminals.
@22. Ever heard of the UDHR?
@23. 65 Brook Street London W1K 4AH. Leave your benefit cheques. Take the rest of your scum at the same time. No-one needs argies in the UK. Shame that you said 'That's a promise.' Because we know that you scum always lie. We could deport you if you like. You do know about the Treason Laws, don't you? Did you know that foreign nationals (aliens) can be convicted for treason in the host country (where they reside)? Especially in the 'Anglo' host country. You're dead, buried, corrupt and rotting whenever we want you.
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Apr 12th, 2015 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't you realise that it is someone taking the piss at #23!!
I rest my case on Anglo-supremacism.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One day because of people like the two above and all the others here, some British generals, surrounded by defeated geriatric men with laser guns, and dirty child-soldiers with cut faces, will be signing the full unconditional surrender of the former United Kingdom as demanded by the Grand Trinity (Sino-Russian-Arab armies), plus their new allies the Scots, who turned on England only days prior after hanging their dictator Clyde “Conqueror” Pugol (nickname: “LEPRecon”) and his mistress ”Three-legged Skirt), in the middle of some pulverized section of London, that some say may have been once “Buckingham Palace” (before the King was killed in the dropping of the Gamma Ray-Electropulse bomb of August 6th, 2045). Even then the British refused to surrender, after most of the population had been killed by the Gamma radiation, and all equipment made useless by the electro-Pulse, so the nano-nuclear attack of August 9th destroyed most of London's buildings without even a smoke cloud, they crumbled from within).
They will be responsible for the partition of England into three-zones (Chinese, Russian, and Arab), but they have some mercy and let the Anglos (as they are called) keep Peckham and Grimsby.
But at least Anglo-Supremacism, which exterminated the Pakistani race and tried to exterminate the Argentine race, was finally quashed.
'And ”here is the UK declaring my country a threat to its own territory, the Malvinas Islands: 2.3% of UK’s budget is allocated to defense. It is also absurd”' CFK
Apr 12th, 2015 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0... at least it's allocated to 'Defence' and not 'Attack'.
That must be where CFK keeps gettin' it wrong.
Because clearly, the 2003 war in Iraq was “defensive” in nature.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anglos will be Anglos. They are doomed.
”It is absolutely ridiculous considering any of us (regional countries) a threat.”
Apr 12th, 2015 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you don't like extra military at your doorstep, then shut your trap about stealing land that isn't yours.
You can't be a devious thief and then protest about people taking measures to protect themselves from you.
@ 29 Clyde15
Apr 12th, 2015 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My money is on ilsen: he's a bit of a card!
@34 ChrisR
Apr 12th, 2015 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That would be my guess, always thought it was a “she” though.
35 Pugol - H
Apr 12th, 2015 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ilsen is very definitely a “she” - and what a she!
Straight from the real housewife of Buenos Aires. She was an NYU parent and her cabinet spends half its time in Israel.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK
Apr 12th, 2015 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this is my last summit ,
REST OF THE WORLD,
Thank god,
says it all really.
Told you Nostrils was due a breakdown. Considering the number Cristina has had its s hardly surprising the inspiration she engenders in her Argentinean educated masses.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think that there are a few people on here typing away in the locked rooms of their secure units.
Apr 12th, 2015 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 030
Apr 12th, 2015 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What? Skip was right: you've lost it. Again.
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LOL!
Cristina. they need an enemy. that somehow they see that they can win easily. when the enemy is strong (china and russia) they hide behind the nato ... hahahahahaha ...
Apr 13th, 2015 - 01:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0No Comment
Apr 13th, 2015 - 03:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0*flaunts arse*
*kisses wind*
*swirls cloak*
*disappeares*
* ;-)*
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Apr 13th, 2015 - 06:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0har har
* makes Sid James type larf*
Hope I get to be in the Chinese zone.
Apr 13th, 2015 - 07:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Better food.
Relax guys,
Apr 13th, 2015 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0She was running late, so they grabbed her same speech from 3 years ago and used that.
She doesn't realize things have changed since then.
”here is the UK declaring my country a threat to its own territory, the Malvinas Islands...“ 2.3% of UK’s budget is allocated to defense. It is also absurd”
Apr 13th, 2015 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, exactly. The Falklands *are* Britain's ”own territory“.
You know that warm feeling you go when you acknowledged that the Falklands belong to Britain? That's how it feels when you tell the truth.
”...2.3% of UK’s budget is allocated to defense. It is also absurd”
No. Argentina has attempted to usurp sovereignty from Britian twice before, it may not be disputed.
One of the high-ranking members of your military has suggested that our defense force is the only thing preventing a third attempt.
Why then, should we allow you the opportunity?
You have refused good-faith negotiations.
You have refused to allow the legitimate inhabitants their right to self-determination.
You have refused to resolve your claims at the ICJ.
You have refused all diplomatic solutions, because they would *all* require you in the end, to drop your fake claim and admit you've been lying all along.
If you refuse peaceful solutions, you may not complain when we correctly assume a possible threat to our territory and citizens, and take steps to counter the threat before it becomes an actual threat.
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Apr 13th, 2015 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let me correct that for you...
No Comment
*Appears*
*flaunts wind*
*kisses arse*
*swirls cloak*
*disappears*
* ;-)))))*
@3
Apr 13th, 2015 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0” 2.3% of defence budget, don't think so. UK last year 61.8 billion= 61,800,000,000 and expected to spend 180,000,000 in the Falklands over 10yrs
So 18,000,000 per annum. I think that is 0.0029% per annum spend in the FALKLANDS . Is anyone good at maths?
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Apr 13th, 2015 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0. Is anyone good at maths?
That would be an extra 18 million on top of the 100 million per annum (or whatever) they already spend on the Falklands defence...
...making it....have a guess....
She's not a threat at the moment but leopards don't change their spots. If the Islands let their guard down even for a second she'd be in their fast if she thought she could get away with it. It's always funny when the aggressor pretends they are the victim.
Apr 13th, 2015 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@50
Apr 13th, 2015 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks think that is 0.19% of TOTAL DEFENCE spending according to Thinks figures, I think it is higher but HE knows best Eh
The crows seen to be exited today? Never so few make so much noise!
Apr 13th, 2015 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Britain should send some Jihadies to defend the booty stolen in 1833.
In the British caliphate are many willing to volunteer I heard, I wonder if that is true.
Do you have a mosque in Puerto Argentino? You should build one, soon you will needed.
53 psql
Apr 13th, 2015 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- a Catholic Papist,
projecting his fears of the Moors and the Eastern Hordes... !
Argentina's message to UK and US
Apr 13th, 2015 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Basically he will try her dammed best to cause havoc right up and until the day she goes,
and she just want to warn those nasty brits and yanks,
but one feels it has fallen on deaf ears...lol
Buenos Aires is home to the largest mosque in South America. ...
Apr 13th, 2015 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@56 I doubt many of the 'Argentine' posters here would know that. Most have either never lived there or left decades ago.
Apr 13th, 2015 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 057
Apr 13th, 2015 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Most of those, seem to be
- Islamaphobes
- Homophobes
and Anglophobes
19 Jmackiej
Apr 14th, 2015 - 01:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina is in such a mess...corruption, suicides, grandstanding, threats, and breaking of legal agreements since the Kircheners descended...”
You probably have trusted sources. Clarin? La Nacion?
I got news for you. An early April opinion poll gave Cristina around 40 per cent approval, which is huge for a president at the end of the term. The “effect Nisman” to which you sarcastically allude has collapsed and its effect on CFK's popularity quickly vanished as more complete information emerged. Primary elections in the province of Salta (the first ones to be held) have given almost 60 per cent of the votes to the status quo candidate. This is not magic, just voters' assessment beyond the opposition and their propaganda through loyal media.
With Chinese funds, Argentina will build a wind power plant in Chubut as well as dams and nuclear energy; Nissan will invest to build pick up trucks, etc. etc. Of course, much remains to be done, but the country's productive structure, debt levels and other indicators place the country in an excellent position to take advantage of the next international growth cycle.
So much for the mess.
59 Enrique Massot
Apr 14th, 2015 - 02:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0“This is not magic, just voters' assessment beyond the opposition and their propaganda through loyal media.”
Enrique,
what does the buzz phrase, “loyal media”, actually mean?
“Loyal” as in “loyal to the government that pays them”??
That doesn't sound very independent or objective.
Maybe that sort of Nationalist hyperbole fools the people of SA who are taught that to criticise the gov. is treasonous, but doesn't wash in the First World.
As a supposed 'journalist' yourself, you should recognise the loaded terminology, disinformation, and lack of ethics at play here.
Perhaps not. The populists have played you, just as they dupe the uneducated.
#59 Enrique
Apr 14th, 2015 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please, you're not that ignorant to recognize that Argentina is a failed state. Come on, admit it....
What a shame because your country has just about everything to be a world power.... Except common sense...
@61
Apr 14th, 2015 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0just a addendum to your post, “ and a credible government” . And a credible justice system, where else in the world do you get justices aligned with or against the government certainly not in the free world. They “ the justices ” should be entirely independant of the government and Nisman case should be investigated by an outside agency as it is a political matter.
“to defend the booty stolen in 1833.”
Apr 15th, 2015 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Reclaimed, not stolen.
And exactly what booty did they take?
You post shows your lack of history knowledge-but hey you have been brainwashed.
“and emerging countries will still be left with the dead and the guns that are also produced by developed countries”
Yes=flashback to Argentina's Spanish ancestors who wiped out much of the local populations.
@ 59 Enrique Massot
Apr 15th, 2015 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wouldn’t count on any Chinese funds being available if I were you.
Looking at the latest economic data.
3 gordo1
Apr 20th, 2015 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Nobody can believe that the UK has declared that Argentina remains a risk, a threat to the Malvinas Islands: it is utterly absurd.”
They're not alone here's expert opinion on the issue.
NATO Review
Deterrence: what it can (and cannot) do
...while London kept emphasising that the Falklands were British, the military Junta in Buenos Aires became convinced that such statements were mere lip service...Deterrence had failed because the United Kingdom had ignored an important factor. Striking a tough pose while at the same time reducing the means to make good on it undermines one of deterrence’s most important ingredients: credibility.
http://www.nato.int/docu/review/2015/Also-in-2015/deterrence-russia-military/EN/
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