Argentina's foreign exchange market was quite active on Friday and the so called 'blue' or 'parallel' dollar hit the highest mark in the year at 15.10 Pesos. Meanwhile the official US dollar ended half a cent higher at 9.255 Pesos in banks and foreign exchange agencies. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesCue the Kirchner lament 'everybody hates me, nobody loves me , I think I'll go and eat worms'....
Aug 15th, 2015 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0BCRA was caught lying, surprise surprise. They sold over U$1B to keep the peso afloat just in the last 2 weeks!
Aug 15th, 2015 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1819448-el-bcra-reporto-ventas-de-dolares-78-inferiores-a-las-que-realmente-hizo
2 months to go to elections, the float they've been using is gone, they're is no where else to get U$.
Is this finally the time I've been waiting for?
Let's hope.
$20 at Christmas, at this rate Think will soon get priced out of Meths! Isnt Peronism wonderful?
Aug 15th, 2015 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 02 Another one of your predictions I believe; and they said it'd never happen.
Aug 15th, 2015 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Every time I hear of bad news for Argentina, whilst I feel terribly sorry for the honest, hard-working, decent people, a little part of me always feels some sense of satisfaction after the way the Argentine people who were here in 1982 thoughtlessly trashed Stanley. They lacked basic fundamental discipline from the beginning with no sanitation plans, no latrines, no rules; just shitting and pissing anywhere and everywhere. No regard for private property. ...and if the place was really theirs, WTF!
I hope each and every one of you involved in that disgusting behaviour is suffering badly economically right now and forever in the future.
Just sayin...
@4 That reminds me of Jo Wood's comment about the Rolling Stones concert in Buenos Aires. She said the Argentines just pissed where the stood and shit into plastic bags that they just threw into the audience. They never saw that anywhere else.
Aug 15th, 2015 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes its funny how everything I've been saying is now being denied by the Rgtrolls, my predictions were too broad, anyone could have seen this blah blah blah.
Aug 15th, 2015 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They seem to forget they have argued against these same predictions time and again over the last few years.
Don't feel sorry for the hard working, decent people in Argentina. If they wanted to do something about the system they've supported for 3-4 GENERATIONS they could have, they're either too lazy or stupid and they get what they deserve.
@6 Don't feel sorry for the “hard working, decent people” in Argentina. If they wanted to do something about the system they've supported for 3-4 GENERATIONS they could have, they're either too lazy or stupid and they get what they deserve.
Aug 15th, 2015 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah right we deserve to starve because we don't set up a military dictatorship.
You are disgusting.
There are a number of decent people in TDC, there are after all only about 15M Peronistas.
Aug 15th, 2015 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So why does Peronism continue to flourish?
Is it the Mafia, the Pope's influence, what is it?
Or is it the bribes and kick backs to the stupid, stinking poor that does it?
My Argentine next door neighbour and his extended family tell me it is pointless to vote as nothing will change!
You deserve what you get. You literally had 3 generations to fix this but are either too lazy corrupt or stupid.
Aug 15th, 2015 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You let your country devolve
nobody else.
Viva la Perronistas! K swine forever!
Aug 15th, 2015 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wait . . . . Wait for it . . . . Here it comes . . . . .
What happened to your BRICS saviors? Huh, rotting roadkill? lol.
@7
Aug 15th, 2015 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't believe that yankeeboy was advocating a military government, just that it is up to the electorate to change the government if it is not delivering what the electorate want. It is what is called true democracy .
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Impact-on-rupee-from-Chinas-yuan-move-to-be-temporary-Economic-adviser-Arvind-Subramanian/articleshow/48494097.cms
Aug 15th, 2015 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Temporary?
Brazil? trashed and subject to presidential impeachment
Russia? a commodity state selling $41 oil
India? caught a full case of the chinese flue and headed straight to recession
China? percent a day currency devaluation / waning demand for imports
Yep. BRICs is kaput. lol.
@9 We did everything we could, including military dictatorships (that were misguided IMO). And we are still continuing to battle fraud and corruption.
Aug 15th, 2015 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But of course it's always the fault of the hard working people. We are the bad guys who deserve to starve. We are inferior people to you who are always right and deserve to rot in hell.
If you think I am going to allow being denigrated by you, you are dead wrong. You and your kind of people help the Ks with this attitude.
@11 you mean a revolution?
They call that terrorism nowadays... except when convenient to the Americans. And the kind of people who do revolutions in Argentina are none other than the criminals that side with the K.
But yankeeboy has always advocated for a military government anyways.
13. I have no sympathy for you. Your post is completely pathetic. If you think you did everything you could you deserve to get what's coming to you.
Aug 15th, 2015 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All you have left is false pride.
I hope it tastes good.
I know plenty of honest hard-working Argentines who are lovely people and don't deserve and can't control the mess they find their country in. I wish no ill-feelings on them and the- no doubt- millions of others like them.
Aug 15th, 2015 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But to those who had the authority to allow and not stop troops shitting in our streets and homes in 1982: rot in hell you bastards.
If you're not one of these people or someone who thinks it was fair / funny or someone who is actively involved in making governmental decisions to try to take our islands: I wish you all the very best of health and success.
15. Its like trying to separate the Nazis after WW2.
Aug 15th, 2015 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Suddenly nobody supported the gov't.
They were all innocent bystanders
Merely taking orders.
Nobody cares what happens they created and supported their own mess for 3-4 Generations.
They've had plenty of time to fix it if they wanted to.
Even Paraguay is doing better than they are...
@14 If you have no sympathy for me and all of us decent hard-working people THEN YOU ARE A MONSTER. No if and buts about it.
Aug 15th, 2015 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We have done more to fix our country than everything you have ever done in your lifetime to your country. But we can never hope to be human beings to you or your ilk, only subhumans that deserve to starve.
This is why conservative Americans are a threat to the world. They are all people who judge others based on nationality and race and have no qualms about desiring the death of other people. They will only learn if and when they face the fate they desire to others.
How can I judge you on your race when I don't know what it is?
Aug 15th, 2015 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'd rather be a monster than an apathetic fool who stands by and watches their country go into the toilet generation after generation.
Its like this is a surprise to you?
Argentina has more financial collapses than any other country in the history of the world.
Its par for the course
and every time there's a collapse more middle class people end up in the gutter.
You'd think they'd learn.
Alas
Its an Idiocracy with the smart, hard working, ambitious ones leaving as soon as they figure out they'll never make it there.
All that's left is a weak and weaker gene pool breading lazier and stupider people generation after generation.
Do you not see this?
Its so plain to everyone else.
@8
Aug 15th, 2015 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So why does Peronism continue to flourish?
Is it the Mafia, the Pope's influence, what is it?
Or is it the bribes and kick backs to the stupid, stinking poor that does it?
The reason this continues (I'm not sure the term flourish is appropriate...) is political, not economic. What Peronism does in economic terms is that in every election politicians outbid each other in promising expensive goodies to the voters, unions, etc whatever they believe their power base is. These benefits become expensive and unsustainable. In order to continue deficit spending a country can only do two things: Print more and more money (which leads to hyperinflation), or borrow more and more money from other countries to make up the difference.
Argentina historically has chosen the route of borrowing to stay afloat. Eventually the debt becomes too large to pay back and the country defaults. This is why Argentina holds the world record for sovereign default, both in sheer number of defaults and in magnitude. They default, blame evil foreign corporations on their problems, and eventually somehow manages to convince foreign markets to lend money to them again, and the cycle starts over until the next default. Sometimes the markets wisen up to their game and they end up starved for credit - that is when they have to print pesos instead and bouts of hyperinflation comes around.
What Argentina is doing today though is even worse - since they cannot borrow as much as they need to cover their deficit spending, they are printing money. But to keep hyperinflation away they are playing a pretend game of faked statistics, and forced currency transactions to try and hide the fact that the pesos are flooding in to a recession economy.
That is the most dangerous and destructive game of all. It is the economic equivalent of trying to hold a beach ball under water while pumping more and more air into it. Eventually it is going to pop in a spectacular way.
Perronism in perpetuity!
Aug 16th, 2015 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0According to the UN, Argentina has now become a leading member of the ARZ group of failed countries: Argentina. Russia and Zimbabwe, the ARZ-hole states of the world. How can any country get things so desperately wrong? Surely Corruptina Kirchner is not to blame? Surely her legacy to Argentina will not be the villas miserias, the disgusting, stinking slums? Never mind, she will be enjoying the millions and billions she has so rightly earned from her regime.
Aug 16th, 2015 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0@17 magnusmaster
Aug 16th, 2015 - 03:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0We have done more to fix our country than everything you have ever done in your lifetime to your country.
Can you expand on that? Can you name some specifics that you have done and Americans haven't done?
Are you sure you are not deceiving yourself here? Are you sure your people haven't done more harm than good to your country for awhile?
Once again, someone else is a Monster. And, there are absolutely no ifs or ands about it, too. Someone else is, as a matter of complete factual reality, a bad guy.
@13
Aug 16th, 2015 - 05:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't believe I mentioned terrorism at all. If you think that is the only way to change the Government then go for it. I am afraid it may too late to change your type of democracy if that is what you prefer to call it, as every politician has the same agenda, that is to say feathering ones own nest to the detriment of the elecorate. It is time Argentina woke up and smelt the coffee
@18 There are plenty of apathetic fools in Argentina, but don't put everyone in the same basket.
Aug 16th, 2015 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0@22 The Americans got it easy after the civil war, they don't have nearly as many scummy politicians as we do. We had way longer civil war, and military dictatorships to fight populism. We have fought for way longer than the Americans did to try to fix our country.
This thread is just nasty. There are many, many decent Argentines caught in the trap of an authority entrenched in corruption. Remember how we dissected the results of the last election? Remember how many votes were bought by this corrupt government? It is nearly impossible for the decent Argentines to fight back against the overwhelmingly dishonest and threatening authorities. Some try and have their businesses ruined, or worse. The K's are a Mafia-like organisation.
Aug 16th, 2015 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0The good Argentine people I have met do not deserve to be lumped in with the rabid K supporters.
Incidentally, the idea that all Germans were Nazi's is breathtakingly naive. Many Germans suffered under Hitler's rule, did not support him and were virtually starved.
@ 25 ElaineB
Aug 16th, 2015 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Many Germans suffered under Hitler's rule, did not support him and were virtually starved
Please supply a link to substantiate that statement.
At the peak of his popularity almost all the German people supported Hitler, the only ones who did not formed the German resistance and they were very brave people indeed.
@26 I don't post links or click on them.
Aug 16th, 2015 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You really should not believe all the propaganda you were fed about the war. There is always more depth to a situation. Do your own research, visit the country, speak to people actually involved and you might have a more educated opinion.
Thanks Elaine for pointing out how this thread had devolved.
Aug 16th, 2015 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can we get back on point.
I predict 20-1 peso by the end of year.
The higher it goes the better for me. Kilichoff isn't able to keep this together till after the election.
@28 I do wish for the K's to have to face the consequences of their mismanagement of Argentina.
Aug 16th, 2015 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Somewhere, in some alternate universe there probably is a rotting roadkillian worthy of my admiration and if not that - at least worthy of my apathy and not my outright disdain.
Aug 16th, 2015 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The overwhelming majority of the rotting roadkillians are however a bunch of whiney little bitches who make even the french look stoic by comparison.
In the history of rotting roadkill there has never occurred a single negative event that wasn't attributable to some external influence.
This lack of a personal accountability gene renders the rotting roadkillian immune from development as an individual and condemns rotting roadkill society to woe on a perpetual basis.
Asking the world to accept rotting roadkill and the rotting roadkillians is asking it to denigrate itsself.
@30 Are you speaking about Argentineans? You clearly haven't met many. Where does you blatant prejudice come from? Not personal experience, that is for sure.
Aug 16th, 2015 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Polly, you need to ditch those tinted glasses and pour some wine in a rotting roadkillian and get them to be honest with you. lol
Aug 16th, 2015 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 028. BCRA lost its float. Unless they get another Chinese loan we should see some drastic moves in the Peso. It has a long way to catch up to the inflation.
Aug 16th, 2015 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 025. I am not sure why you care so much of the normal decent Argentinians they must be very small in number since they've never be able to change the gov't.
You all are acting like this is a surprise.
They ( and i mean the collective they) have brought all of these problems on themselves.
They've had 3-4 generations to fix this
alas they have not
I couldn't care less
and neither does most of the world.
@21
Aug 16th, 2015 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Arg still has a way to go before they reach the level of the bottom feeders of Zimbabwe and Venezuela etc. What is frightening though is the rate of descent and the fact that no one on board seems to notice the fact that the wings are clipping the treetops while the captain pretends they're still cruising comfortably at 30000 feet.
34. Concur - but they are clawing their way to the bottom. lol.
Aug 16th, 2015 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@33 I am not sure why you care so much of the “normal decent” Argentinians
Aug 16th, 2015 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because I am not a nasty person? Because I am human? I criticise heavily the K's because they are crooks and murderers, I don't hate a whole country and everyone living there.
they've never be able to change the gov't
Well, let's take that idea and run with it a little. I remember that before the last US election you were confident Obama would not be re-elected and I disagreed with you. So why didn't those lazy, stupid Republicans change the government? Were they too lazy sitting around counting their money, calling the President childish names or too stupid? Do you think all Republicans deserve what they get with a Democrat President? Were they so small in number that they were powerless to effect change?
My point is that it is not that simple.
I couldn't care less
But you do care. You care so much that you post here almost daily and devote a huge amount of time to researching the Argentine economy. Personally, I like some of your posts and you predict correctly a lot of the time. But your open hatred of Argentines is just a mirror image of TTT's hatred of the US. It is unfathomable unless there is a deep-rooted personal reason.
I hope this terrible Argentine government crashes and has to face the consequences of their actions. I don't wish a pox on the whole country.
@32 You are a twit. Clearly, you have never been to Argentina.
36. Clearly, you are a twat and have gone native.
Aug 16th, 2015 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@37 Gone native? Ha. Child. There is no war. It is not 'them and us'. It is reasoned comment.
Aug 16th, 2015 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perronisn isn't the problem. It's a symptom of the problem.
Aug 16th, 2015 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was very dissapointed and surprised Odumbo won the last election. I am terrified that a Dem could win next time. If that happens my country is doomed to be on the same path as Argentina or France. A slow steady decline but at least I'll be long dead before I start to see the rot and hopelessness.
Aug 16th, 2015 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do I want to see my Arg friends starve, of course not but I do believe they're part of the problem and they need a drastic slap in the face to wake up and do something anout it. Sitting around smoking, drinking cofee and complaining isnt enough.
So if starving and street fighting brings the change they need I am all for it.
I dont think arg can handle a representative govt. Theyre too corrupt for it to ever function.
Lets see what happens this quarter. It should be very telling and interesting to watch.
@36 You saved me 30 mins of typing.
Aug 16th, 2015 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree with all your points.
Years of populists policies have bought on this chaos we see now.
Instead of spending on infrastructure they spent it on bribes and paying worthless assholes to do nothing in order to get votes.
@40 That is a slightly more reasonable post. I think if Trump sticks around another Democrat government is exactly what you will get. I doubt it will be the disaster you think it will be because the Democrats are not like the governments of Argentina or Venezuela however much you disagree with their ideology.
Aug 16th, 2015 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe you need to give your Republican friends a slap in the face and let them starve and fight a bit to prevent the Democrats winning again. You could make a good start by slapping Trump's face. You think he represents the majority of the Americans but the reality is he will ensure the Republicans stay out of power.
@41 Yes, it will never be a quick fix. The problem is much deeper than political, it requires a shift in social attitude too. The very real problem is the K's have been allowed into schools and are inculcating the young. That would be a good place to start to stop the rot. Ban the political indoctrination from the classroom.
@41. Do you think that this type of governance has changed the people?
Aug 16th, 2015 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If so, do you think that change is possibly irrevocable in its nature?
42. As much as the general population thinks the Repubs have gone far to the right I think its the opposite and the Dems have gone far to the left so by comparison it looks like the Repubs are gone more right.
Aug 17th, 2015 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Dems are in crisis, they had a very fragile coalition of Socialists, Students, Eco-Nazi, Minorities that got Odumbo elected. When he wasn't running and the blacks didn't turn out the Repubs dominated the elections. I hope that happens the same with this election.
Trump is a vote against the status quo candidate. He is popular with both sides not just the hard right. It will be interesting to watch how this comes out.
At this point I still want a former Conservative Governor to win. We have a lot of stuff to fix from the disastrous 8 years or a community organizer who never ran anything fcking up the country and the world.
People feel that things aren't right.
This may be a very nasty campaign.
But this time I think the Repubs are up for the fight.
@44 It will certainly be interesting to observe. I can't call it yet but I think it will be close.
Aug 17th, 2015 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 045. I don't think it will be close at all. I think one of the parties will sweep the nation with a clear mandate.
Aug 17th, 2015 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fun headline:
Aug 17th, 2015 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.wealthdaily.com/articles/socialism-a-one-way-ticket-to-poverty/6225
Perhaps most hurtful to the rotting roadkillians is that rotting roadkill is adjudged insignificant by the author.
http://www.businessinsider.com/venezuelas-currency-is-now-so-worthless-that-people-are-using-it-as-napkins-2015-8?r=UK&IR=T
Aug 18th, 2015 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the Rgidiots on this board don't think that what's happening in Venezuela is relevant they're dumber than I thought.
It's way too early to even look but there are millions of polls:
Aug 18th, 2015 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/
Clinton is fried....that much is certain.
I think the biggest factor will be who's billionaire will go the deepest in his pocket. That being said, Trump may well be the one without a billionaire other than himself.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/
49. The Dems put all their hopes and dreams on Hillary. They may have no choice but to ride it into the ground.
Aug 18th, 2015 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Right now the only people she polls better than 50% is against people who aren't running.
She's always been an arrogant sleezeball.
Plus I think Odumbo ruined the Dem brand just like Carter. Hopefully it will be another generation before we see another Dem Prez in office.
There is a large pool of Americans who are not party politicians and sick of all the shit on both sides.
Aug 18th, 2015 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sick of businesses getting away with criminal acts and only being fined
Sick of wasted dollars being handed out to wasteful welfare
Sick of excessive and unchecked military budgets
Sick of attempts to have religion dictate policies
Sick of spending 10k a year for health insurance and STILL pay co-pays and 5k deductibles. This was even before Obamacare. However this is not an issue for me. Maybe Trump will bring that one payer system he wanted.
and most of all sick of NO ONE doing anything of the problem that only plagues the USA......mass killings.
Party politics are killing the USA>
51. I think there's a lot of people that think all of those things. I think its stemmng from the lawlessness of the Obama administration, ignoring laws, selectively prosecuting/persecuting people using the full weight of the US Gov't, using it as a vendetta, crushing businesses they don't like and favoring ones they like. Its all gotten way out of control and people can feel something isn't right. That the system isn't fair.
Aug 18th, 2015 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's why the candidates that are perceived to be not part of DC are doing well.
This is a change election, the one that got us stuck with Odumbo wasn't.
He's a slick race husker and a pathological liar.
And I think people finally see what I've been saying for years.
I personally think the last two presidencies digusted most of the average American. I also think it all started with 9/11 when the USA was caught with it's pants down and flabbergasted that we were attacked on out own soil and not knowing how to fight a war of this nature.
Aug 18th, 2015 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No one in the USA ever seems to discuss the cost of the SW Asian wars in dollars. I know the hidden and not so hidden costs.
2 trillion for Iraq alone......financed of course.
And TARP ...the banks.....aka the bailouts:
http://www.usfederalbailout.com/
http://www.usfederalbailout.com/
Democrats when to spend and increase taxes......Republicans want to cut, unless of course it is in their state. What we have here is a failure to communicate, to quote a movie. The end is going to be the same only it will be the USA and not Paul Newman being carried away. Compromise and concessions are no longer in the American political vocabulary anymore. The average people will pay.......and that is the 38% of the undecideds.
Only 3-5% are truly undecided. A few Trillion isn't really a lot in the long run. We need a war every decade or so to get real world battle training and upgrade equipment. Its not really a loss, most of the costs are within our own country.
Aug 18th, 2015 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the amount of technology that comes out the war spending is incalculable.
Over the next decade we will get out of policing the world and concentrate on North America. We will pay down the debt by cutting gov't, dealing with entitlements and GDP growth. Our debt it large but its not unmanageable.
Don't get discouraged, we had a bad few years but we reached the end a year or so ago. Part of what you are feeling is a the transition the economy/society is going through.
Our path is clear and we are coming into a few decades of unprecedented growth. Like nothing we've ever seen.
Wars are great.......in the movies.
Aug 18th, 2015 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wars are necessary.
Aug 18th, 2015 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wars boost technology.
They'll never go away.
Watch another movie.....with and embedded journalist. Restrepo.......wars been good for film makrrs.......hell most everyone but the military.
Aug 18th, 2015 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who the fuck Bush sent the troops to Iraq with equipment is mindboogling. No armor humvees.....flak javkets......shorted ta50....the list goes on.
I'm not sure if you are being deliberately obtuse or you really don't get what I'm trying to say.
Aug 18th, 2015 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't care about details.
I don't watch war movies.
Google technology that came out of the iraq war
or any war and maybe you'll get what I am saying.
I'm biased on that issue.....sorry.
Aug 18th, 2015 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Republicans love wars as long as it is not on their turf.
Aug 19th, 2015 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0I would send them to a war zone, experience the destruction and death, then let them talk about it as if it were a video game.
YB you really are showing yourself up to have no humanity.
They love budget cuts also, with that same caveat. Check out where the USCG Officers credentialing center is for mariners. One would think near the ocean.....nope.
Aug 19th, 2015 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Republicans don't love war. What a silly thing to say. More Dems have started wars in the last 100yrs than Repubs. Sheesh you have a short memory.
Aug 19th, 2015 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Repubs are not patholigical liars that vote for them and then get all weepy and start hand wringing over the first sight of blood wanting to run out of there as fast as possible.
Odumbo ruined everything that was accomplished in Iraq by pulling out early.
Now we have a bigger mess on our hands.
That the next Prez will have to fix.
Wars are necessary and drive innovation. That's what the conversation was about. Facts are facts.
At least those filling the holes in Arlington didn't die in vain, they died for innovation.
Aug 19th, 2015 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have a perverted view.....however I hope that is the POV that the Tea Baggers and GOP convey for the general elections.
Of the over 1.3 million lives lost since 9/11, we can slap Bushy on the back and say......well down, a great period of innovation.
Of the 50K plus who lost limbs.........when they say is costs an arm and leg about capitalism........ya can't deny them that.
You are the most pathetic example of the human stain that can possible be. First to pull someone else trigger and first to dodge drafts and enlistments......spoken like a true conservative.
@62 Wars are necessary and drive innovation. What a terrible way to explain away the deaths of many innocents in war time. The US should keep their wars within their own boundaries - for the purposes of innovation, obviously.
Aug 19th, 2015 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wars do not drive innovation, it's far too late by the time a war occurs.
Aug 19th, 2015 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Generals and strategists drive military development and undoubtedly some spin offs are bound to occur.
Unfortunately, some generals seem to like to try out their new devices in the field to 'prove' them.
Anybody remember the 'shock and awe' war?
@65 ChrisR: Wars do not drive innovation . . .
Aug 19th, 2015 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sure, Einstein?
Some of the biggest innovations of the 20th century were induced by WWII.
Females in the workforce - en mass - as a norm.
Minorities with virtual full employment.
The atom bomb.
Jet powered flight.
Inertial navigation.
Radar.
Deep encryption.
This is too easy . . .
Anyhoo. Peso lowest its ever been
Aug 19th, 2015 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And Soy at a 6 year low and falling
Already predicting No Soy being planted in many areas due to it being unprofitable.
Apparently indec says theres 0 yes 0 unemployment in some provinces.
Soon, my pets, soon all I have been saying will come to pass.
:)
56 What a really pathetic statement.. I am sure the orphans will be glad to hear google did well when they hear their father is coming home in a box.. I haven't heard such stupidity since the chicken hawk days of Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Cheney, and the scumbag Bush. All brave leaders that would never serve themselves or let their children be put in harms way.
Aug 20th, 2015 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Quit your hand wringing and sobbing.
Aug 20th, 2015 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing I wrote was incorrect.
lol. liberals. What you call FREEdom was indeed very costly and paid with the most precious of blood.
Aug 20th, 2015 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I didn't say it was incorrect, I said it was pathetic. What chronic said is the exact statement chicken hawks forget, blood is precious.
Aug 20th, 2015 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bloomberg has issued a damning indictment: ”The past century has been an unmitigated failure for Argentina’s economy. A century ago, the country was firmly in the ranks of the developed nations, boasting a per capita gross domestic product about three-quarters that of the U.S. (about where Japan and the U.K. stand today). Since then, the figure has declined relentlessly, as Argentina stagnated and the rest of the world pulled ahead. As of today, Argentina is down to about a third of U.S. income levels.
Aug 20th, 2015 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the early 2000s, GDP -- not GDP growth, but actual income per person -- plunged by about two-thirds. That is a disaster on a level usually seen only by the likes of Russia or Zimbabwe.
And President Corruptina Kirchner tries to distract the people with her laughable global cause” to steal the Falklands.
So truth is pathetic?
Aug 20th, 2015 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wow!
Thats sad.
What's sad and/or pathetic is that this particular truth becomes one political partie's economic policy because it lacks the the ability to do otherwise.
Aug 20th, 2015 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its not just one party who are you kidding?
Aug 20th, 2015 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0People conveniently forget the wars were voted on and were passed by both parties.
If anyone is doing illegal stuff its odumbo right now.
@74. You're right. These war mongering Democrats are sad indeed.
Aug 21st, 2015 - 02:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0lol......right yb.
Aug 21st, 2015 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Was something I wrote incorrect? You're too biased to be rational.
Aug 21st, 2015 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now that yb is yhe funniest post you ever wrote......you're the classic pot calling the kettle black....calling me biased. Christ........i've voted both demo and republicans. In fact I voted for Baker......I'm not party biased.
Aug 21st, 2015 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which war were you in?
Aug 22nd, 2015 - 02:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Im thinking you're a lot older than I originally thought.
Anyhoo
Peso has never been lower
And I think they've run out of u$ to support it.
Id love to see this all fly apart before the korruptors are gone
I bet the planted Soy is 50 to 75 percent this year...
I've stated before that I am not even 60. Figure it out.....maybe besides the obvious deployments you can figure out the not so obvious ones. My first Commander in Chief was Ford ......for a few months and many more follow.
Aug 22nd, 2015 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought Baker would throw a wrinkle in your thinking, enough to think I was the talking the other baker. Most Americans know him as the GOP governor who took a liberal state......of Massachusetts. No.....I was not referring to James Baker.
Ford! Wow I don't really even remember that Presidency. Its all ancient history to me.
Aug 22nd, 2015 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It looks like the Arg economy is reaching its tipping point. They're running a 7% deficit now and its speeding up. All financed by printing pesos then vacuuming them up though BCRA manipulation of bonds. When this blows, and it will, it is going to be worse than 1989 and 2001 combined.
I hope you can afford to support your family there.
Can you believe onions now cost more in BA than NYC and London. Onions! I never thought those could be an asset class investment!
Bahahahahaha
So you are a kid......lol. S0 why not come clean what country you REALLY are from? The Baker was a major give away.
Aug 22nd, 2015 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As i've said I never lie on here. There's no point and it would take too much of my memory to try to keep the story straight.
Aug 22nd, 2015 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only people who are more American than my family are Indians.
I wish I was a kid. Life was a lot easier then. I have just been through 3 days of grueling interviews for a new position and hanging out with the owners of a fast growing company. I am exhausted! And the bad part is I'm not even over yet. We still have not even talked about compensation, buy-in, etc. I think we've got another month of negotiations to go!
Luckily I can relax all weekend.
More American huh. Do you recall your statement to me on that?
Aug 22nd, 2015 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah........I will be chilling also.....on the Cape.
yb.....whomever and where ever you are, you allow a layer of your onion to fall. Relax ......I'm sure you have a place in the Hampton's.........in your mind.......lololololololol.
No I don't recall my statement on being more American.
Aug 22nd, 2015 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can ask again if you want tho.
As I've said both sides of my family came into Mass in 1630s. Not sure why that's implausible to you?
I heard the Cape is gorgeous this year. I've not been there in years. Have fun.
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