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“Let the private sector make business with Falkland/Malvinas, a blockade in the Americas is unacceptable” said lawmaker Trobo
Uruguayan lawmaker Jaime Trobo said that a blockade in the Americas was 'unacceptable' and called for closer links between the Falkland/Malvinas Islands and the continent, urging the private sector to take advantage of the business opportunities in trade and services. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIt goes to show that despite the rhetoric of Argentina who claim that their irredentism over the Falklands is a “regional issue”, people other Latin American nations are waking up to the potential of working with the Falklands rather than trying to forego that opportunity to feed Argentina's massively overinflated ego.
Sep 25th, 2015 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0We should block not only the Falklands as well as all companies doing business with it.
Sep 25th, 2015 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0For example, if the Land Rover sell cars in the Falklands, all of South America should impose sanctions on Land Rover so that it is excluded from our market.
If still have not returned the islands to Argentina, we must expand the sanctions asking our partners BRICSA and Africa to do the same.
@2:
Sep 25th, 2015 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0“...If still have not returned the islands to Argentina...”
Again with this tired lie. We cannot “return” the Islands to Argentina, as Argentina has never legitimately held sovereignty over them, hence the Malvinas Lie.
There are two ways this dispute can be settled in a manner fair to all parties. Neither involve Argentina gaining sovereignty.
Hey Brasileiro,
Sep 25th, 2015 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0A couple of points:
1- How can some give back to someone else - something that was not theirs in the first place?
2- Blockades- What is your position on the US Blockade for half a century of Cuba? Was it right in a democratic world or wrong? - Think about it.
3- Would your panned action also then call upon southern Brasil to have sanctions imposed against it by the rest of Brazil? - after all fishing vessels and companies operating around the Islands with Falklands Govt fishing Licences use a major port in South Brasil.
@2 Brasileiro,
Sep 25th, 2015 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0O do be quiet, you stupid child.
Do you think that Argentina thinks good of you?
They call you Brazilians “brown monkeys”.
Put your own house in order & don't stick your nose into other people's business.
Nostril, just shut up idiot. Uruguay has smelt the coffee..we can have normal relations just like with Chile. The Argie idiots can just continue their downward spiral, a great shame for sensible Argentinians.
Sep 25th, 2015 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0#2 Brasileiro
Sep 25th, 2015 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you really think that countries all around the world are going to stop doing business with one of the world's largest economy or base their purchasing favours on whether a company complies with Argentina's irredentist claims on a piece of territory that has never belonged to them you're very deluded.
BRICSA
Sep 25th, 2015 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bahahahaha
I really do wish that Argentina was part of that group.
I am very sorry to say that apart from beef, sheep, fish and cereals UYU has nothing of value to trade with the Falklands or the UK.
Sep 25th, 2015 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Broad Fraud have given all the trades that existed in UYU to the Chinese by importing their crap simply to reduce prices to the Uruguayos instead of reducing internal taxes and encouraging business by emasculating the unions.
UYU desperately needs to get rid of the commie influence and the hand-outs to the stinking poor who have never worked at school or in adulthood as well as ensuring the workforce actually does work.
Tall order and will never happen in my lifetime, if at all.
@9 Chris, what are the good points of Uruguay that made you decide to retire there? Is it an inexpensive place thats easy to reside in for Brits?
Sep 25th, 2015 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2. Perhaps you could clarify something for us. Without any reference to argie propaganda, please explain why the Islands should be “returned” to argieland. You will need various facts and dates. You may also need to express various legal principles.
Sep 25th, 2015 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For example, in 1982, argieland started a war. It lost. By virtue of the legal principle of uti possidetis, territory in the possession of one party remains the property of that party at the end of an armed conflict. Thus, on 14 June 1982, irrespective of the preceding 300 years of history, the Falkland Islands were established as being British.
@2 Brasileiro
Sep 25th, 2015 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you aware that Jaguar Land Rover, the British multinational car manufacturer, is planning to commence production in Brasil? If Latin America were to boycott this development just think, you idiot, of all your fellow Brazilian citizens who would be denied of jobs and other advantages this investment would present to the economy of your country
http://autoproyecto.com/2013/12/jaguar-land-rover-va-construir-una-planta-en-brasil.html.
@2: So, does the same go for Microsoft, Mitsubishi, Toyota, Samsung, Adobe, Canon, Nikon, Fuji, Guns 'n' Roses, Uncle Ben and everyone else who do business in the Falklands?
Sep 25th, 2015 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And as for Africa; will you be the one to talk to the de-miners about the sterling work they're doing clearing the mines?
Let's face it, you don't really have a clue about what you're talking about, do you?
BRICSA? Just about to go down the toilet. I think you are the only one in the whole of South America who has any faith in that one, look around you and see what is actually going on. Trade with China, Europe and the US, without the involvement of BRICSA.
@ 10 CaptainSilver
Sep 25th, 2015 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just in case you are unaware , we first wanted to be a self-funded retiree in Australia but due to the crash and the Australian government not giving clear indications of the future of the scheme we decided not to go there.
The reason wanting a much better climate was the health of my wife, a chronic asthmatic, was deteriorating markedly in the UK and I was concerned for her long term health. Kadina in South Australia is on the 35 deg S parallel and so is Uruguay.
We came over to have a look in 2010 and fell in love with where we live now, and put an offer on a property before we came home. We came over to retire in 2011.
The people are great but the government are children with egos the size of the planet. I fell for the Mujica bullshit and soon realised that the country is FUBAR in so many ways compared with the UK. I have come to terms with that because otherwise I would have to go somewhere else and the country itself is too good.
Think 50 years ago in the UK and you have it about right. As far as we are concerned financially and health wise things could not be bettered. My wife has had only one asthma attack in almost five years when she had at least two minor ones a week and a major one every month. It was worth moving here for that alone.
You do need a fair amount of money to ensure a living comparable to the UK but nothing like what it would cost in the UK. Health care insurance is MUCH cheaper and the health care MUCH better, food is cheap and very good but is seasonal. No stupid things like flying in out of season items, you get local food or tins!
As far as permanent residency is concerned as long as you have a clear record and each of you has access to U$D 1,500 per month (or less for your partner if you buy a residence outright) you are accepted with open arms. You do need a good Escribana (similar to a notary public on steroids) to make your application painless and it takes no more than three years!
@9 ChrisR
Sep 25th, 2015 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What about citric fruit? I have just enjoyed a delicious mandarin imported from Uruguay.
@ 15 gordo1
Sep 25th, 2015 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, you are correct, as you say they are very nice.
Gordo Brasshole is actually Nostril/Tobi/Trolley etc. He isnt from Brazil and he doesnt live in Brazil or Mendoza where he used to say he lives. I think he is in a mental institution somewhere.
Sep 25th, 2015 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All the more intelligent trolls have disappeared and we are left with only Nostril and Voice :-(
@2
Sep 25th, 2015 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“If still have not returned the islands to Argentina,”
Argentina never owned the Islands-but you can always return to Portugal and leave Brazil to the real Brazilians that you kicked out of their homelands because you regard them as 'fauna'
Brazil=“Let's destroy our our greatest asset the Amazon rainforest”.
@14 ChrisR
Sep 25th, 2015 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hi Chris,
A couple of quick questions if you don't mind.
- Were you able to reside in Uraguay while your application was being processed for those three years?
- Very generally speaking, what is the crime situation like. We looked at Costa Rica for a winter home a few years ago because of all the great things we had heard from other Canadians, but after two months of rentng we decided against it because the (petty) crime was so prevalent. Mind you, we are spoiled here, as we haven't locked our house in fifteen years (even when we leave to travel for three months).
We're looking for something southward, but the southern states don't really do it for us.
”- What has happened Brassy? - cat got your tongue? Or have you realised you have been an even bigger ARSE than usual?
Sep 25th, 2015 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brassy = Nostril
Sep 25th, 2015 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19 NFLD I think that there is a website Uruguay Expats on which various Canadians who have relocated to Uruguay post regularly, so perhaps ask them for their impressions.
Sep 26th, 2015 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ @19 NFLD
Sep 26th, 2015 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When we first came to look the place over we had lunch with these people:
http://totaluruguay.com/cgi-bin/soap.pl?e=http://totaluruguay.com/&r=
It nearly put us off! Full of yanks who had given up on the states, took the hit and thought things would be cheaper and taxes less than America. Tax is very low but they moaned and moaned about the cost of electricity (expensive but no worse than the UK) and moaned that they thought things would be 'better' without defining better.
So we never went to any more meetings. We wanted to make a success of our retirement and just got on with things.
Regarding applications for residency. As you are American your background checks can be done when you have arrived using Interpol (they have a local office) and if you are having a container full of whatever to start your life here you need to get on with the application ASAP because you will risk very high dock and customs charges if you send it over without the Immigration permission which triggers the Customs to allow it off the docks. It can take two months to process your documents to the point where you get the release.
Don't worry about staying here until your application is approved. Once you apply, and accepting you do not “cause trouble” with the authorities such as the police, you have security against deportation. You must however answer the queries on your application in a timely fashion and I strongly advise you to use an experienced Escribana to do the paperwork and guide you through the entire process. By law the Immigration MUST process your application to an acceptance within three years unless you fall on a hurdle.
Crime in Uruguay is increasing in Montevideo due to the argie drug dealers turf war. I live towards Punta Del Este and crime is not a problem. Out of season if you forget and leave your house unlocked don't worry!
We have never seen any crime, never mind experienced any first hand.
Hope this helps!
@23 ChrisR @22 redpoll
Sep 27th, 2015 - 06:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks. Much appreciated. We might take an exploratory trip.
thank you ChrisR.
Sep 28th, 2015 - 03:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0most informative!
I wish to return to SA, but obviously Vnzla is unfeasible right now
@ 25 ilsen
Sep 28th, 2015 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can always help on the Escribana front! :o)
To no.2 Bras'...have you ever bothered to look at the map of Argentina in the 1830's? It was an a hell at lot further from the Falklands than it is now... So any proximity argument is ridiculous..why not petition your government to take possession of French Guiana since you're considerably closer and France and clearly have a claim?!...if you're so concerned with colonial piracy maybe you should pack your bags and f**k off back to Portugal with the majority of your populace and give the land back to the indigenous Amerindians?. At least there are some of them left because you ancestors never quite eradicated them, unlike like your cousins in Argentina...
Sep 28th, 2015 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@27 Halcyon23,
Sep 29th, 2015 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0malvinistas & their fellow travelers don't do truth & facts.
lts inconvenient, upsets their sense of victimhood & actually forces them realise that they are not in the right.
Unacceptable!! no other words needed.
Sep 29th, 2015 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2 Bras
Sep 30th, 2015 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Only goes to show what an uneducated numbskull you really are - Land Rover is owned by...guess who...Tata, a Mumbai based INDIAN company.
So when are you going to get one of BRICS countries to apply sanctions against one of it's own companies?
At one time a favourite London amusement was to visit Bedlam, the lunatic asylum and bait the inmates but this was suppressed as an inhumane pastime.
Sep 30th, 2015 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So just leave brasileiro alone. It's cruel to enjoy watching him frothing in his own slobber.
@ 31 redp0ll
Sep 30th, 2015 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We don't need to go to London to see Bedlam, we have our own version with the Tourist Minister pushing through no summertime 'because it will help tourism'.
I have tried and tried to see how this claim has any validity and is counter-productive on so many levels like the 39,500MWh that were saved last year but under the new regime will be lost and wasn't Vasquez worried about the drought reducing hydro-electric performance?
The 'children' of the Broad Fraud have struck again!
Unless you know something I have overlooked?
Chris. I think they saved U$D 10m through daylight saving last year. As a farmer DST is a damn nuisance but apparently the tourists don't like it. So are they going to recoup the 10m in increased tourist spending? Dunno.
Sep 30th, 2015 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for UTE they announced with ruffles and flourishes that all generation was supplied by renewables last month but my bill actually went up. The buggers haven't read my meter for four months somy bills are estimated so I'm paying $1500 extra each month. Yes, you can go to Ute and they will adjust it but it means an hours wait at their office.
Weknowthat stupid Pepe spent all the boom time money and more and this govt is pushed to fund the public budget and are desperarate to keep inflation below 10% as otherwise it will trigger automatic wage hikes. So our central bank is daily spending their reserves to prop up our peso with the result we come even more uncompetitive. For example a weekly shop across the frontier in Brazil is 45% cheaper than here on fuel prices are about half so the shopkeepers here are laying off staff.
Solution? I don't know unless it's a massive devaluation and all that will entail.
@14 Chris R (speaking of Uruguay) :
Oct 01st, 2015 - 05:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0“We came over to have a look in 2010 and fell in love with where we live now”
( Indeed, an idyllic environment may act as a balsam for a tecnician . )
“We have never seen any crime, never mind experienced any first hand” ...but (always a “but”) :
“CRIME in Uruguay is increasing in Montevideo, due to the argie drug dealers turf war. I live toward Punta del Este and crime is not a problem” ( It only happened that the whole of Uruguay, and the whole of Argentina have become impotent witnesses of the brutal murder at the seaside of a 15-year-old girl and the unbelievable incompetence of the oriental Police and Forensic personnel.) But I also believed that was “No money Pepe” regime who legalized marijuana, and turned pharmacists into drug dealers. Have you forgotten that charming novelty sponsored by “Frente Amplio”..? There are, in Montevideo, entire neighborhoods under total control of the druglords, and the Police keeps away from them.
“The people are GREAT, but the government are CHILDREN with egos the size of the planet”. I´d like to believe the first four words,Chris, but it was this very people that consistently voted the same incompetent regimes : from Vázquez to Mujica, and again to Vázquez, granting them the majority in the Parliament. “Health care insurance is MUCH cheaper, and the Health care MUCH better” Tell the relatives of the victims of the pair of CONFESSED male nurses serial murderers that “got room” in hospital beds killing their occupants, four or five years ago; and please get information on the punishment they received from the Uruguayan Justice, IF ANY. Pitiful as the picture results, it´s true that it´s the WORST in the entire Uruguayan History
@ 33 redp0ll
Oct 01st, 2015 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am fortunate that the majority of my income is in USD, however my investments in Uruguay (which are considerable) yield in UYU Pesos so I won't be immune if the “children” cock the Pesos up big time.
My friends are already feeling the pinch with the price increases we have all see at the supermarkets and a devaluation will just make matters far worse.
If only the stupid scheme of giving money to people for not working (having never worked in their life) was knocked on the head it would be a start but political death to the Broad Fraud so will never happen until the government itself runs out of money and is unable to pay them. By then it will be too late for all of us.
@ 34 argfellow
My correct title in Jibber-Jabber is Ingeniero Mecánico Eléctrico and in the UK I am of Chartered status, this being a much higher classification than in The Dark Country. But I will ignore the insult this time.
Now before I answer your post I need to know if you are the same argie as “Argenfellow”?
Come on, tell the truth for once.
Vásquez hasn't got the support in parliament to take radical measures with the MPP continually undermining him. These people such as Irma Lietes have no interest in democracy and only want anarchy and fighting for a revolution on the streets.
Oct 01st, 2015 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Within the next 25 years the UK will return the Malvinas.
Oct 02nd, 2015 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0@35 Chris R “My correct title in JIBBER-JABBER is Ingeniero Mecánico Eléctrico and in the UK I am of chartered status, this being a much higher classification than in The Dark Country. But I will ignore the INSULT this time.”
Oct 02nd, 2015 - 06:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0The INSULT...? Chris, I´m afraid that words JIBBER-THE-KIBBER you frequently. Might I have imagined that English Electro-Mechanical Engineers could be more self-conscious than full Generals who proudly -and frequently- call themselves “SOLDIERS”...?. So, let me consider Technicians and Soldiers, PRIMARILY, as varieties of the human condition, disregarding their labels in the hierarchical staircase.
Yes, I´m almost the same ARGENTINE fellow, a few years older, and -hopefully- a bit wiser, than the former “Argenfellow”. But it was not my will to change the first nickname. It simply ocurred that one day it was no longer recognized by Merco Press, so I was forced to create a new one, resembling the old.
“Come on, tell the truth for once”
That is not possible, because I have always done.
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