Argentina president Cristina Fernandez has suspended her attendance to the G20 summit in Turkey to campaign for the incumbent presidential candidate, Daniel Scioli, ahead of the 22 November runoff, when he confronts opposition hopeful Mauricio Macri, the big surprise of the electoral dispute. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesGood, stay and screw up your candidate because your done. You've been to the g20 time and time again and achieved nothing
Nov 09th, 2015 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0a Win, win!!
Nov 09th, 2015 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0The G20 is happy, Macri is happy!
Why was she going to the G20 anyway? Surely she is now in charge of a caretaker government.
Nov 09th, 2015 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0'she has been the recipient of many attacks from the media for being a woman.'
No she is attacked for being an incompetent thief...oops ...competent thief.. incompetent leader... being a very fugly woman is by the by.
Kiss of death for Scioli.......
Yep stay hear so I can hear your screeching on the cadena national.
Nov 09th, 2015 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Everytime you speak you lose votes! Keep it up , no one is going to hear you when you are in a cell soon.
Well, well, well, FpV getting desperate. Scioli incapable of running his own campaign successfully? How's he going to manage running a country? Of course, he won't have to. Kirchner will still be there telling him what to say and what to do. But all argies just love her organising every minute of their days and every day from cradle to grave, don't they? Don't they? Saves them all the trouble of trying to think. Haven't had to do that since 2003.
Nov 09th, 2015 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't you just love the look of utter panic stricken desperation on the face of Scioli?
Nov 09th, 2015 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is his arm around TMBOA? No wonder he is desperate. LOL
@6 He doesn't have a right arm
Nov 09th, 2015 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Word on the street is he got messed up (must have bought drugs of Anibal) and then work up with his arm around the old hag.
He chewed off his own arm, just so he didn't wake it.
Cristina sólo entrega la miseria… in spades. Toxic curse of death on Scioli. Keep it up!
Nov 09th, 2015 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She sends timerman and kiciloff to represent argentina. The nazi aligned peronists spin in their grave. Ladies and gentlemen. The stupidest electorate in this %(&'@#ing planet.
Nov 09th, 2015 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The woman is frit, won’t go in case she gets another verbaling from Cameron on self-determination, or worse he’ll close the tax havens where she has got the wedge stashed.
Nov 09th, 2015 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway, just how far was Northern vice royalty of the River Plate and Southern vice royalty of the River Plate, from BA, 200 years ago?
A short walk one way and a little boat ride the other.
Reeeekie writes: “Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars.”
Nov 09th, 2015 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2015/05/15/cristina-fernandez-comes-out-strongly-in-defense-of-minister-kicillof
Nonsense shes not jewish.. Just everyone she puts on charge
Nov 09th, 2015 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2 313toBioBio
Nov 09th, 2015 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Frit = Frightened
To be fair, Argentina attending the G20 is a farce anyway, its like sending a dominoes player to a bridge club,
Nov 09th, 2015 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah, the chorus of hopefuls dying to see Argentina screwed up by a representative of corporations and multinationals!
Nov 10th, 2015 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0They forget that the advancement the Kirchners brought to the country are not something that can be erased with impunity.
Macri so well understood this, he changed his discourse during his campaign, promising to keep many of Kirchner's conquests.
@15 Enrique,
Nov 10th, 2015 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0You make a good point:
He doesn't necessarily agree with her policies, but he astutely left some in place, in order to get elected.
That way he gets some of his reforms, and can take another run at things once he has consolidated his power.
That's what you fear, right?
Does anyone know what surgery Max has had? Is this the real reason CFK is not attending the G20?
Nov 10th, 2015 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0@15 You make an excellent point and I am glad it is you that has made it as I can pass it on to dispel a lot of the scaremongering. One of the false stories the K's army of keyboard warriors has been that all the advancements in women and gay rights will be reversed by Macri. Of course, we all know this is entirely untrue and even CFK devotees recognise it. Thanks for that.
@ 17 ElaineB
Nov 10th, 2015 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Arsehole transplant, except the arsehole is rejecting him.
#16 Troy and #17 ElaineB
Nov 10th, 2015 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No so fast, Elaine. I said Macri promised. Not Macri will do.
Troy: You got it.
We all know what Macri's goals are. We know what he tries to cover with anodyne, feel-good words. It is to go back to the dreamed paradise in which corporations get green light to do what they want--with support or non-intervention of a smaller, indifferent government--and where workers are put back in their place. Macri wants to, again, cut the pie to favour his people, who are not workers and peasants to be sure.
What we don't know is the pace at which he will do it if he succeeds convincing the electors he is their man.
He may decide to slash and burn to satisfy the desire of revenge of the most sectors of his party.
He will most likely try a gradual approach, as former PM Stephen Harper did in Canada, proceeding to kill by a thousand cuts.
If Macri gets elected, no doubt Argentina will suffer similar decline to when governments with similar ideologies as Macri were in power.
@19 Except that everything in that post is unsubstantiated scaremongering.
Nov 10th, 2015 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chile suffered the same nonsense when Pinera was running for election. He did not reverse any 'rights' legislation because the reason they became legislation is the natural organic nature of society. Argentina has moved on from the 90's - it was a different world then and no government - even right of centre - is going to reverse such legislation. Stop spreading lies.
What are you worried about? That there is an unsubstantiated allegation that Macri wants to 'cut the pie to favour his people,' as opposed to the FACT that CFK has been doing just that for the whole 'stolen decade' and they are not the workers. (Peasants? Really? What a way to speak about the people of Argentina).
Workers put back in their place? What does that even mean? Where should they be except at work when they are on duty.
You are clearly out of touch but whoever is elected is going to have to 1) Devalue the peso, 2) Cut back on spending and 3) Negotiate the defaulted loan. BOTH candidates know they have to do that. Why? Because the economy has been ruined by CFK and the boy Kicillof. The 'model' only worked in the boom after the crash when the only way was up. The circumstances changed and CFK and Kicillof did not have the ability to change with it. They bullishly continued on the path to ruin.
Argentina is already in a worse decline than you are able to imagine. Nothing to do with Macri or Scioli.
In a rare moment of his honesty . . .
Nov 10th, 2015 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reeeekie writes: “Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars.”
en.mercopress.com/2015/05/15/cristina-fernandez-comes-out-strongly-in-defense-of-minister-kicillof
@21 Stop spamming.
Nov 10th, 2015 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20
Nov 10th, 2015 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Excellent post, Elaine!
A Day of Reckoning for the Argentine people is inevitable.
The K's were counting on Macri scaring the people, but he knows better than to allow that to happen.
Once elected, he will have no choice but to deal with issues head-on and make changes for the sake of Argentina's future.
CFK is destroying their economy. Take a look at Bloomberg today.
Nov 10th, 2015 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All I've been saying is coming to pass
They get what the deserve.
Just like in Venezuela.
I'm surprised she didn't go... on a one way ticket.
Nov 11th, 2015 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0What are the odds that Gollum and the boy don't come back?
@25 Frank,
Nov 11th, 2015 - 01:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can one of the Trolls claiming to live in Argentina check to see if Timidman has cancelled his home newspaper delivery ??
She wouldn't go to Turkey surely? In fact, I will be surprised if she leaves at all. Her home province is still very much in her hands and profitable. Her hold on Argentina won't go if Scioli is elected and if Macri wins she will be running the opposition. Like most people who let power go to their heads, she will dream of a comeback for her or her son.
Nov 11th, 2015 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0She isn't going to the G20 because her son has had surgery. That is the real reason.
Will she lose her immunity from prosecution?
Nov 11th, 2015 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@28 If she keep some official role she will be safe but you know how it goes in Argentina. Even IF someone decides to make a case against her and with overwhelming evidence, it will never get to court. If it did the witnesses would disappear. CFK rubs shoulders with some seriously murky people.
Nov 11th, 2015 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Several heads of State, like Putin and Hu Jintao , will surely miss getting some head from her. Although the effect of CF's rubber lips might be hard to substitute, maybe she could send Alicia Castro in her place.....
Nov 11th, 2015 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Enough! So if a woman holds a position of power she only negotiates with men with her body? Seriously? I am no fan of CFK but do we really need the knuckle-dragging comments? There is enough material to criticise her without the sexist drivel because it makes you and the other men that do it here look like a bunch of knobs.
Nov 11th, 2015 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@25. Their eventual home is israel so youre onto something
Nov 11th, 2015 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@31 Elaine
Nov 12th, 2015 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No need to generalize - I wasn't ! ......her reputation is based on rumours (that fit in with the events) that she wasn't all that faithful to Cyclops , and would do what(ever) she thought necessary to get her way.
The fact that CF is a woman is not the reason one takes the piss out of her, it's because of her disgusting arrogance and her disdain for the Argentines.
@33 She wasn't faithful any more than he was to her, that is true. And whilst wearing her widow's weeds she had a long term affair. I don't think this is news. That she has mental health problems is also a well known fact and accepted by Argentines to be true.
Nov 12th, 2015 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If I was generalising, I apologise. But you have to admit there is some pretty nasty posting that has nothing to do with her incompetence, arrogance and dramatics. Some posters have an obsession with 'blow jobs' and anal sex that they have to include it as often as possible in their posts about CFK. It just undermines their criticism when, in fact, there is plenty to criticise about her.
Again, I apologise, something just trod on my last nerve.
@32. 313Bio
Nov 12th, 2015 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Their eventual home is israel so youre onto something
That is bigoted unsubstantiated nonsense!
For a start, Timerman is rejected by the Argentine Jewish community for his outrageous obstruction and coverup of the AMIA bombing.
He is seen as a traitor by Jews.
@ 35 Troy Tempest
Nov 12th, 2015 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Given his Iranian connections, maybe he is being given sanctuary by Hezbollah or Hamas?
@34 Elaine
Nov 12th, 2015 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No need to apologise......I agree that some 'nasty' stuff is put out there, but sometimes the object of ridicule deserves it. CF certainly does. As so do Dilma and Lula, here in Brazil.
24 yankeeboy
Nov 12th, 2015 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK is destroying their economy.
Has destroyed... Do they even have one left?...... and I suppose they will be running away to their bolt-holes and the new Government will be roundly cursed for the mess.
So the cycle moves on again.
I just hope ( and hope against hope ) that she will stand trial for what she has done but I doubt that anyone will even bother.
@37 OK but I say attack them for what they have done and their incompetence - just leave out the sexist remarks because it undermines the criticism. My point is, I have never heard anyone talking about Chavez and blow jobs, or Castro and anal sex. I am pretty sure some contributors here want to vent their misogyny rather than make political comment. Their problem, I know.
Nov 12th, 2015 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@39 Elaine
Nov 12th, 2015 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If I attack them, it's because (I think) they deserve to be. If I make derrogatory remarks about them it's because I like to expose them for the crap they are. I can't speak for all posters on here, but I can guarantee that in my case, it has nothing to do with misogyny....I appreciate women, and a lot - but they only deserve the respect they give themselves. When I dislike someone, their sex is irrelevant.
@40 I have no problem with the attacking or exposing them for what they are. It is really sad when women get into power and are a complete disgrace; especially when they play the 'I am only a woman' card when they fall out of favour, as CFK is prone to.
Nov 13th, 2015 - 07:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think you get what I am objecting to and it reflects badly on the posters that do it rather than their target. Just sayin'.
@41 Elaine
Nov 13th, 2015 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see your point and don't disagree ; whatever happened to plain, good old honesty ? has it been subsituted by this politically correct bs that the liberals love to throw around, in order to disguise the 'nasty' truth so that they can remain in the limelight at the expense of idiots ?
There are many 'cards' the liberals like to play, and they are usually pulled out when the see they are losing the argument....one such card that's become quite popular, is you are a racist ........laughable, really...
Below is the link to an interesting video, showing the extreme to which this politically correct crap could go :
https://youtu.be/iKcWu0tsiZM
@42 I don't click links.
Nov 13th, 2015 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Honesty? I am not suggesting we should avoid the truth to save feelings or adhere to some vague PC idea. I am all for honestly criticising the likes of CFK and there is plenty of material.
What I object to is random posts that always involve *insert woman politician/leader/diplomat's name* and various references to them giving someone a blow job or bending over to negotiate etc. etc. It has nothing to do with criticising their ability to do their job and everything to do with the poster's views on women. And objecting has nothing to do with being PC or not. It is just revolting misogynistic fantasising.
I think I have explained it every which way. I am sure you can see the difference.
@ ElaineB
Nov 13th, 2015 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not disagreeing with you at all and at the risk of getting my head bitten off here.
But.
“a bunch of knobs”?????
@43 Elaine
Nov 13th, 2015 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The video is clean, and serious....but if you don't click links, that's it then.
I believe you have already made your point about bj's and other things, and I understand it.... you may have noticed that in my book, Lula is in much the same category as CFK, and he is (supposed to be ) a man......seems natural , that when criticizing someone for their actions - or lack thereof - their intelectual and / or physical characteristics become part of it, for the emphasis.
But while I have no intention of offending female readers, sometimes the opportunity is just too good to pass up
@44 Haha, not biting anyone.
Nov 13th, 2015 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@45 Not offended as a female but as a person. Yeh, that sounds a bit naff but I think we are on the same page.
I don't want to be the resident feminist here. To be honest, a lot of that over-sensitivity turns me off and is counter-productive. I was just pointing out that some posters are venting their own prejudices and muddying the issue which is that CFK is a criminal. That she is female is not the issue.
@46 Elaine
Nov 14th, 2015 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If and when I try to offend, or to ridicule someone, their gender is irrelevant. If any habit or physical trait can be brought in, all the better, just like adding the final touches to a good caricature.
Offending you is not my intention, but I can't guarantee I'll always play by your rules.
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