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Iowa surprise: Senator Ted Cruz beats Donald Trump: “I'm honored by second place”
Texas Senator Ted Cruz has won the Iowa Republican caucuses, the first vote of the US 2016 presidential election. He took 28% of the Republican vote, beating his rival, the once frontrunner Donald Trump, and Marco Rubio. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesStill early days but I have confidence in the American people. Rubio's performance was more of a blow to Trump than losing to Cruz.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 07:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Meantime the Democratic race was still too close to call according to most commentators but a win according to Hillary. Haha!
Still early days.
Is it 4 or 5 more months of this?
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0God help us!
Ted Cruz makes Sarah Palin look rational.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0@3 Haha! True. I think the Republicans will struggle with their candidates.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh Lordy Lordy, a religious extreme right wing nutter! God help America!
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Its so sad that a nation with almost 400 million people can't come up with better candidates than these, Democrat or Republican. It doesnt matter much anyway because tbe whole place is based on puppetry with strings operated by an army of lobbyists working for large corporations. Sad. America is in decline and China is in stuttering ascendance. Bernie seems the only sane one amongst them!
Hillary seems to be the only one with the gravitas to become president - regardless of her policies.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Republicans seem to be a parade of the embarrassing.
The one thing I do wish is that it didn't dominate UK news broadcasts. Just tell us who won when it's over. 99% of our population couldn't give two hoots about these nomination votes 12 months in advance.
I am just enjoying the spectacle!
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cruz, according to the main US papers is 'hated' by the Republicans so what is happening?
Trump in second, but magnanimous in 'defeat'. Don't write him off yet!
Comments on Cruz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTB4anHTa5M
Love him or loth him Bill Mayer does come up with some funny but true comments about Trump. LOL
On The Republican side there's an 11 point enthusiasm advantage. The highest its ever been recorded.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hillary may or may not have actually won since there's no recount and the winner is declared by her own Party that she happened to also loan a few million to a couple weeks ago. She also lost 9/1 the young vote which was one of the constituents that gave Odumbo the nomination. She should have been way ahead and she barely made it.
She is expected to lose NH.
Again you are all a bunch of foreign progs with little knowledge of how the USA works.
More newly registered Republican voted last night than was ever dreamed. The numbers astounded the local officials. In some places they ran out of registration forms, voting forms and room!
This is still the beginning but I am very happy with the 3 winners on the Republican side and that Hillary is being chased by a Socialist that has no chance to win.
The polls indicated Trump would win in Iowa and he lost. For a man campaigning on 'I am a winner and if you vote for me you will be a winner', he is one big loser now.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Most interesting is the surge in votes for Rubio - pretty much joint second. He is liked by the GOP and could end up being the Republican candidate.
As for the Democrats, the Clintons have never done well in Iowa and her win signifies more then a slim advantage. Iowa and New Hampshire are the most liberal states so Sanders was always going to do well.
Sanders is the polar opposite of Trump. Left of Corbyn. I can't see the middle ground voters accepting his left-wing policies. It will be the centre ground voters that will decide the election.
The media thinks Clinton has SC locked up with black voters. I have no idea why they think they'll turn out for her.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No idea.
If they don't Sanders will get it.
I don't care about the Dem side. Hillary is very likely to be indicted and someone else may step in. That's the talk of the people in the know.
She literally won Iowa with a coin toss.
I've said all along its up to the voters to decide. Money and fame play a very little part in the outcomes.
What has the Dems crazy is the huge Republican turn out and the 11 point enthusiasm advantage. Which means Repubs will come out to vote in large numbers like they did in the last couple of elections when they took back the house and Senate.
People don't like Hillary, they never have. They know she's a liar even 80%+ of her own party think she's a scumbag.
Now we have to get the other Repub candidates to drop out so that its only a 3 person race. After super Tues we'll see who's on top and that's what will count.
I tried no to commment but:
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ Iowa and New Hampshire are the most liberal states so Sanders was always going to do well. ”
Really Elaine? More than California, Massachusetts, my state....neighbors to New Hampshire. Ever been there? We joke they are inbreed. Go up to Laconia, Naushua and even Portsmouth and see just how liberal a state NH is. I don;t think anyone in New England thinks NH is the most liberal, but it is far from being an extreme conservative state.
Iowa is pretty evenly split
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Elaine (it) talks like she knows what she's saying
It doesn't know anything.
So when a Republican wins the presidency who d'y'all want them to bomb first?
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Probably some abortion clinic in California.
13. UK of course.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What an idiotic thing to say.
Stupid Foreign Prog.
Oooh touchy!
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You don't want to bomb anywhere then?
YB and Capn, in England a few of us are watching with interest, why? Because who is President matters. Over my lifetime we had the Cuban missile crisis, the Cold War, Korean War, Vietnam, the Gulf Wars, Ws Wars, most of which has involved us. The whole world is dominated by big American corporations. And then theres the Anglosphere a force for both good and evil.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Last time Mit the Muts campaign was great entertainment, this time the lineup is pretty gruesome on both sides and it hard to pick out an attractive candidate. I did like the look of Rubio until I saw he wants a big increase in the military. Please tell your favourites and the reasons why? Its interesting.
15. Try not to be an idiot.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 016. I agree the office of USA Prez is the most powerful position in the world. The world should take some interest in the elections. The problem is you are all so uninformed and have no clue how Americans think. The reason we've become the richest most powerful nation the world has ever seen is because we're different that the rest of the world's citizenry.
Our military needs to be increased dramatically, especially the Navy and Airforce.
You should like that since we provide your defence.
BTW you don't have to pick anyone since you don't vote, just sit back, watch and hope fot the best.
“richest most powerful nation the world has ever seen”
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You keep believing that even though it isn't true.
I'm not sure if your belief in your “difference” is alarming or just amusing.
18. Prove me wrong.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0or
STFU
Prove which bit wrong? Your belief in your omnipotence or your belief in your difference?
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nah you'll never understand American exceptionalism.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So try your best on the other....
OK - a simple example. An itsy-bitsy little country called North Korea actively and continuously threatens you and is systematically developing weapons that could destroy you.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Imagine if the mighty Kims had been ruling and behaving in that manner during the era of Ghengis Khan. Would he have implemented trade sanctions against Korea and allowed the Chinese to ignore them?
Power is only power if you can wield it and there have been plenty of empires that were able to dominate the world more effectively than the USA ever has.
Since you split the atom you made it impossible for any nation to so dominate the world again. Probably a good thing in the short term but it's likely to result in the destruction of mankind in the end.
YB, so insignificant and powerless he clings to the mere fact that he is American as some form of validation. It does not make YOU powerful, YB.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course, whoever is the Leader of the Free World is important to everyone. It is why we are interested. And it is not hard to understand U.S. politics. YB sounds like one of those thick-shit football supporters who think no woman can understand the offside rule.
The Republican line up is poor. Sanders is left of Corbyn which leaves Clinton as the only likely President. She has the whiff of something dodgy about her but is probably the best of what is on offer.
What a great country the U.S. is. Why couldn't they come up with better candidates. That is what Americans should be concerned about.
#16 a reason question without a simple answer from me. Some background;
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I used to be a Republican in the 90s and my military days. But as they became more religious and extreme, I faded. I am never always conservative but at times and some issues and am, and, conversely the same as a liberal.
I like someone who is intelligent enough to see the big picture and cost.
Diplomatic enough without being politically correct.
Truthful and plain speaking enough without insulting everyone.
Someone who can unite and not divide.
Someone who realizes that is we can piss on most on the Bill of Rights ten amendments, we can piss on ALL ten.
Hillary repulses me.
Trump embarrasses me.
Cruz.....is Canadian.....until last year, and a puppet.
Rubio is own by Singer.
Sanders will accomplish nothing.
Not many left is there? It always comes down to “who will harm me the least” at the end of the day. I may have been able to vote for Kasich,who knows, but he is dead in the water.
That is my opinion. It's not right or wrong, stupid or smart, it's just that, my opinion that you asked for.
#18.....for the record, what Nation is richer...pure and simple, not per capita. Per Capita USA is #7 and Qatar is number #1. In share size, population and wealth, no one is. What nation do you think is richer and more powerful when push comes to shove? China? Russia?......seriously?
Captain, I hope that was somewhat of an answer. BTW, I do realize that the world looks on to us for leadership. I also feel that we need to do what is best for our country first before we can be a leader.
Richest nation as at today = USA - but certainly not richest ever and the Chinese are catching up fast.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for “when push comes to shove” - MAD keeps us all sane.
NB Why do so many Americans hate Hillary so much? Can't say I know enough about her to judge one way or the other. It can't just be about what server she stores her emails on.
22. How does N Korea threaten us?
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 023. Are you even a women? I doubt it. You know so little about the USA it is embarrassing, maybe a friend of a friend's cousin can fill you in.
Fcking worthless troll.
You're sounding like Conqueror today Mr YB.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 025. You think the Chinese are catching up? No way no how not in your lifetime.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 027. You're sounding like Voice.
Elaine is a nasty troll, full of stupid and worthless comments that have little to do with reality.
@24 I pretty much agree with everything you say there.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@28 You just cannot stomach that I stand up to you.
29. Trolling is not standing up to me.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@30 Grow some balls, accept I don't agree with you and will express my opinion whenever I choose. There is nothing you can do about it.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I understand you don't agree with me.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're a no-brained Progressive Troll.
That's all I need to know.
Humans,
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this is not an election/referendum abt the USA V UK,
calm down, its an American presidential elections ,
and may the most popular one win,
in reality it becomes only an interest to us,,,, when the next president whoever she or he is, is announced in November [ I presume]
lets not start WW3 and hand what's left to the Argy Vulture's waiting in the winds.
anyway, back to mercopress.........
Captain Poppy thanks for an informative discourse. Such a refeshing change from the drivel currently being spouted by that arrogant twat YB. What an embarrassment to his country he is. Our politicians often leave us groaning but I think they leave yours looking very lame indeed. So many of my American pals are in despair, I can see why.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think there are times our politicians will not be happen until they break the record in low turnout. 2014 was the lowest turnout since WWII.....just under 37% of eligible voters cast a ballot. Even 2012 was pathetic.....58%. Why........voter apathy.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0USA, Inc. in the making. You wouldn't believe how the businesses are fucking the troops over in the Middle East. They have to buy everything these days, when 15 years ago most was free and/or issued. Halburton, Chenney's business ran fucking showers with electrical wiring through it and Christ, electrocuted like 18 soldiers. The stories and anecdotes are endless.
$45 for a 6 pack of coke, $100 for a weeks laundry......this is no bullshit. Officers can afford that but enlisted men cannot. They talked about Obama pissing on the troops.
Yeah.....our politicians suck and are all about business.
Democratic turnout was down sharply but Republicans set a record in Iowa’s caucuses Monday, according to the figures released by both parties, suggesting the enthusiasm this year is mostly on the Republican side.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So that may help.
There's a lot of anger on the Repub side. They will turn out this time.
If it ends up being Clinton I think a lot of Dems will stay home.
Lots of chatter about Rubio today.
Lots.
Talk of voter fraud in Iowa benefiting Clinton
of course.
33 Briton
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“calm down, its an American presidential elections ,
and may the most popular one win”
At least their candidates are interesting!!!
Look what we get!! Someone put's 3 turds into a bucket and then asks us to pick the best one!! Now some of us have done that I have to say, you've picked the best one but remember it's still a turd.....
Legend tells of a empty taxi that was sent from the Houses Of Parliament to number 10 Downing Street. When it arrived outside, David Cameron got out of it.
34 Captainsilver
“Our politicians often leave us groaning but I think they leave yours looking very lame indeed”.
Really?? I've always thought it was the other way round. Ours, as Nigel Farage has said all look the same and sound the same. At least in the US the candidates are is a different!
With their campaigning you get a REAL show and a lot of flag waving and cheering, maybe that's what taking democracy seriously looks like, maybe it's because the Americans like to put on a good show.
Dare I quote Hitler at this point?
He once said ( when talking about speaking in public ) “To arouse passion in other people, you must be passionate yourself” Boy did he get that right.
Now think about how well Camer-moron would have gone down in Iowa. Where do you think he would have polled?
37. Cameron is like Martin O'Malley the best things he's ever done is create the riots in Baltimore and tax rain.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder why he got 0 votes?
36 yankeeboy
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Democratic turnout was down sharply but Republicans set a record in Iowa’s caucuses Monday”
You see? I wonder how the May election would have looked if everyone in the UK had turned out to vote instead of not even registering to vote or registering to vote and then staying at home and not going to a polling station.
At least everyone in the US is more.......more........ more INVOLVED in the presidential elections. You have people queuing, QUEUING outside polling stations ALL DAY!!!
Show me somewhere in the UK where that happens.
This referendum thingy that we are rumoured to be having, voter turn out or lack of voter turn out will be the one thing that will lead to us staying in the EU.
Yeah David Cameron sounds like Jeremy Corbyn? Angela Eagle sounds like Teresa May? UKIP is the pub bores party, nuff said, its nowhere… Camerons anti scrounger policies arent liked by many except the majority. He‘s no good on foreign stuff through but better than any of those awful Republicans.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One thing is for certain about our US process who some criticize as a circus or what not, we do get to slice and dice and thoroughly pick apart the candidates like an 18 month interview.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hillary and Ted promising an American NHS! Wow! Vote winner..
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UK, LatAm, and the rest of the World can only watch from afar.
Feb 03rd, 2016 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0We know this election will affect all our lives.
Such is the current state of the World. Accept it, or work to change it.
I may have my opinions, and my criticisms, but may I ask all posters here;
Which other potential contender as a Global SuperPower would you prefer as the Our Police?
China? Russia? or the endless committee meetings of the EU ? or maybe ISIS?
discussion welcome
Cruz has an outstanding intellect and the character and values of Margaret Tatcher
Feb 03rd, 2016 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am glad that ElaineB is still posting here.
Feb 03rd, 2016 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank You.
I appreciate your input.
BM.....She raised taxes to balance the budget and reform education and healthcare. Is that what Cruz is planning?
Feb 03rd, 2016 - 03:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0circumstances are different, Cruz and Thatcher have similar leadership qualities
Feb 03rd, 2016 - 06:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0@45 Why, thank you.
Feb 03rd, 2016 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have been prepping for a long trip and an unexpectedly busy year but I never really went away. :)
Given how closely aligned the U.K. is, I wouldn't want another country as the world's superpower. Message boards can give a skewed impression as is brings out the dark side of many people. And U.S. Presidential election campaigns give a false impression of America as a whole.
Elaine I could not agree with you more about false impressions, or impressions in general. Googling, news and others tidbits as well gives false impressions. But this applies most everywhere. Nothing replicates “being” there.
Feb 03rd, 2016 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0The USA doesn't have an taxing problem, historically we are collecting a higher % of the GDP than we ever have.
Feb 03rd, 2016 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We have a speding problem
The Fed Gov't is historically spending more than we ever have as a % of GDP
If we held the line in spending we'd be balanced in 4 years.
Of course holding the line to Progs is like cutting off a hand. The first screams will be “what about the children” next will be “throw grandma off the cliff”
Apparently Hillary isn't saying she “won” Iowa and longer. The Socialists wants a recount. Everyone seems to forget she was up 40%+ over the Socialist before voting. Her loss is breathtaking.
On the Republican side 70%+ of the people voted for latinos and a black guy.
Go on call the Repubs racists.
Go on.
Make yourself look stupid.
Anyhoo, As I said this race is interesting. The sense is we have to right the ship and I don't see how Socialism or Obamaism will fill that need the voters are demanding.
:)
What happened in the Bush years with control of almost everything for 6 of his 8 years? Bust entered with 5.75 trillion in debt and left with 10.63 trillion. They could not use 4 of those 6 or his 8 years to balance it?
Feb 03rd, 2016 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bush was not a conservative.
Feb 03rd, 2016 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Odumbo has doubled it again.
Its got to get under control that is why its imperative to elect a conservative this time around.
37 toooldtodieyoung
Feb 03rd, 2016 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fair enough, I hope Cameron falls flat on his face. lol
I am sure that I must make this disclaimer because those less fortunate will assume this is support of Obama, I do not promote nor condone Obama and most of his policies.
Feb 03rd, 2016 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They year ending 9/30/2009, 8 months after he assumed office and NOT responsible for that debt in that year, the national debt collectively was 11.910 trillion. As of 9/30/2015, the collective national debt was 18.150, an increase of 6.240 trillion (52%). Not exactly a 100% doubling.
Clinton took office and as of 9/30/1993, the collective national debt was 4.411 trillion and eight years later it was 5.807 trillion. An increase of 1.396 trillion (32%). Bush 11.910 less his start of 5.807 leaves us with 6.103 trillion (105%).
Reagan…..9/30/1981 national debt…998 billion, 9/30/1989-2.857 trillion, a 1.859 trillion increase (186%) increase. Now, you’ve laughed and called me old being in my 50’s, so I must assume that you do not recall those years. I do, those also were my service years.
My point is I am not so sure that you can hang your hat on the GOP/conservative hanger for reducing debt. Not by historical numbers anyway. BTW, those are treasury figures.
The numbers are facts.
They're better than the Dems tho.
Feb 03rd, 2016 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've never even heard a “debt reduction” plan out of the Dems
How about a balanced budget?
That alone would solve the debt problem pretty quickly.
As you well know Reagan had to rebuild the armed forces after the Dems let it go to pot.
Perhaps, but there has only been two surplus years in the past 50.....69 and 99.
Feb 03rd, 2016 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do, I also saw the waste to. I started with Ford and ended with Bush. As a Commander in Chief, Reagan was ok, a bit dumb, but the second best. Bush Sr was by far the best CiC.
Bush Sr was a good Prez.
Feb 03rd, 2016 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All of those times we had a surplus was from a Repub Budget.
I don't think having a super intelligent Prez is as important as having one with the right and unwavering principals.
I'd say you couldn't get to be a Prez without being somewhat intelligent
Odumbo is supposed to be smart and Carter was a Rocket Scientist for gosh sakes. I wouldn't consider either to be good Prez.
what surpluses? The one in “69 and ”99?
Feb 03rd, 2016 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zqOYBabXmA
Feb 03rd, 2016 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 51 Captain Poppy
Feb 04th, 2016 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Bust” entered with 5.75 trillion in debt and left with 10.63 trillion.
Classic Autocorrect Fail!
Or did you do it on purpose, you naughty old thing?
One is most amused.
:-)
Honest auto correct. ...lol. I voted for both Bush's. ........only liked one. Besides, like them or not, insulting achieves nothing.
Feb 04th, 2016 - 03:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0But it is funny now that you mentionn it...lol.
@59 NFLD
Feb 04th, 2016 - 07:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your post made me smile:-).
Perhaps the Republicans are morphing into The American Taliban:
Feb 04th, 2016 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGAvwSp86hY
@63 ChrisR
Feb 04th, 2016 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As a Republican supporter myself, I don't think so, and hope not (I am not an American citizen, but my wife is originally from Ann Arbor and we lived in the US for 9 years after finishing school). However, I would whole-heartedly agree with the analogy between the tea-partiers and the Taliban. They are an embarrassment and cancer within the party. They have no concept of tolerance, liberty or the separation of church and state. So proud to wallow in their own ignorance, just like the Taliban.
Chris I myself use to be a register Republican. One of the moderates when they were allowed to have the word spoken within the party walls. Sometime around Newts “Contract with American” which is about the time the GOP found religion I started seeing them in the early embryonic stages of their metamorphosis. Look at them now? No one can run for President without their own billionaire. Or is it a billionaire cannot control policy without his own personal politician?
Feb 04th, 2016 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What made the USA special at one time no longer exists. You have to be a millionaire or a lawyer (one of the same here).
@ 64 NFLD & @ 65 Captain Poppy
Feb 04th, 2016 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you both for your comments, I do appreciate them.
It has been some 25 years ago now since I last visited America and remember then how the climate had altered somewhat in the country I was really impressed / amazed at some 20 years earlier but nothing existed like the Bat-shit mad 'Christians' many of whom are seeking 'The End Tine'.
When I think of all the great business people I met and became friends with I just cannot understand what happened that allowed nut-jobs such as Michele Bachmann to get elected to the US Congress?
And Antonin Scalia! He believes in the Devil and has publically announced that the “Devil is getting wilier because we don't see him so often!”
“What made the USA special at one time no longer exists.” And it's the worse for it as far as I am concerned.
The bible thumpers as we so sweetly refer to them. Ted Cruz the morning after Iowa:
Feb 04th, 2016 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:Good Morning Iowa...the Lord has spoken......Glory to to God, praise the Lord“
What the fuck!!
The Muslims will be cutting heads off and the Christian GOP's will be stitching vagina's closed, because to them.....sex is evil and only for creating little future GOP voters.
I am waiting for Trump to sue Cruz for not being eligible for POTUS. He had duel citizenship up until last year when he renounced it. He is a strict interpreter of the Constitution.....all the way to the definition of a natural born American, then it changes......lol
They all suck including the democrats.
Thomas Jefferson said ”a revolution every now and then is a good thing” .........I know he did not mean teabaggers.
so, what is the way forward?
Feb 05th, 2016 - 02:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0For the last 8 months people (mainly Republicans) have been figuring how to get Trump to shut up. Somebody timed his concession speech in Iowa at 3.5 minutes - so I guess we all know the answer.
Feb 05th, 2016 - 03:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not that Cruz is any better. But he will run into that same problem that Santorum had in 2012.
The real winner of the the GOP Iowa race is Rubio. He almost beat Trump.
But the real story of Iowa is Sanders. Clinton think she won but the reality is otherwise.
In 25 years Hepatia wil have learnt to STFU!
Feb 05th, 2016 - 03:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0(well, we can hope!)
Also, looks like a different handler has taken over her troll posts, this one speaks English! wierd huh??
Who are you really Hepatia? Don't be shy now, do tell!
Honestly....I don't think that there is one. In a republic democracy of almost 320 million and many are, well, not exactly Einsteins. Like highschool, there are groups within the parties, each party. I've always felt that we needed a few more parties to enable negotiation and compromise. Liberals believe “we” want it this way and conservatives think “we” want it that way. In reality, “we” want it somewhere in between what “they” want.
Feb 05th, 2016 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0When we started outsourcing military operations, covert shit, it was really a sign of things to come. It really started with the attack on the USPS years ago. As I always said, they will not be happy until SCOTUS is a board of directors, POTUS is a CEO, the Constitution is corporate by laws............
The answer.........informed voting. Oh well, we're fucked!!
Cut the amount of money allowed for campaigning.
Feb 05th, 2016 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stop treating politics as a team game.
Both would be a step in the right direction. The U.S. was never set up as or meant to be a two party - them or us - political game. I am not sure how it can be walked back but cutting campaign funding would neuter a lot of the corporate power.
Note: The discussion is about U.S. politics. I am not claiming the UK is better or worse etc. etc. etc.
Allow me to add one more thing. Yes, you are correct Elaine, that goes without saying. But, that is like saying.......who is the “best” candidate versus who it the “best electable” candidate.
Feb 05th, 2016 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know you must understand how a bill is generate, moves and dies in the house, even before it can go to the Senate. Who would:
1- start a bill
2- co-sponsor it
3- allow it the get to the floor?
So yes, you are correct in theory, I was speaking in reality....,...with all due respect.
Oh, I know it is near impossible to change the current system. Too much money involved and too many powerful people benefit from the current system.
Feb 05th, 2016 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was just musing out loud. However, the voters in general seem more than tired of the situation. The American people can achieve change if enough are motivated to do so.
They are more than ready, they are literally desperate which is the fundamental reason beyond some of the wacko's in these races........they want someone else....anyone.
Feb 05th, 2016 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am guessing if the GOP make it, the house will change hands. If dem gets in, the house will change either way. The pendulum swings so short.
Logjam politics whichever way it goes. A weakness of the US system. And… big corporations have undue influence. That exists in Britain too, but in America its brazen and overbearing.
Feb 05th, 2016 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Canadian system is far, far, far, far from perfect; but we are trying to get a handle on it:
Feb 05th, 2016 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unions, corporations, organizations (of any kind) are not allowed to donate to federal political parties or politicians. Only individual (Canadian) citizens can donate, up to a maximum of $1525.00/year (you'll receive a $625.00 tax credit for doing so).
No politician is allowed to use their own money, or any equivalent for campaigning (except for their own $1525.00/year). This includes, for instance, even using your own private plane for travel. There are hard-cap limits on spending.
The elections act does not allow corporations, unions, organizations and even individuals to run political-orientated adds during a campaign (I know that this would never stand a first amendment challenge in the US). They can run ads before and after the campaign though.
Paid lobbyists must be registered and follow the “Lobbying Act” ( http://www.ocl-cal.gc.ca/eic/site/012.nsf/eng/00403.html ).
For instance, designated public office holders are not allowed to lobby until five years after they last held public office. All meetings are “of record” (not recorded, but the meeting itself is calendared) and made available to the public.
It is rather interventionistic, but still preferable to runaway money and influence.
Sounds sensible in Canada. Pity the yanks dont do it.
Feb 05th, 2016 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ask any American if they want to be like Canada or the UK and the answer will be heck no.
Feb 05th, 2016 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is so very difficult for foreigners to understand the way we think and act and unless you live here for a few decades you never will.
I do like that you all are so very concerned for us.
Not
Alas we don't care what foreigners think.
We tell you what to do, you do it and that's the relationship we like and want.
I hear the Pentagon is asking for Multi Billions MORE to bring more AMERICANS and our MILITARY GEAR to Europe to protect you from Russia.
Why oh why can't you do it yourselves.
Its so easy to whine at us when we pay for your defense both with $ and personnel.
Americans are getting really fed up with it.
Really fed up.
Whine, whine whine, we need you to help us....
Gads, do it yourself.
@79 Poor little insecure yankeeboy.
Feb 05th, 2016 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Troll me more please.
Feb 05th, 2016 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sistah.
Troll me more.
Your CommThings I trust more than Hillary…
Feb 05th, 2016 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mexican tap water
A rattlesnake with a “pet me” sign.
OJ Simpson showing me his knife collection.
Farting when I have diarrhea.
An elevator ride with Ray Rice.
Having a drink offered by Bill Cosby.
Michael Jackson's Doctor
An Obama Nuclear deal with Iran.
A Palestinian on a motorcycle.
Gas station Sushi.
A Jimmy Carter economic plan.
A government worker telling me that he wants to help me.
Brian Williams news reports.
Prayers for peace from Al Sharpton.
Playing Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic pistol
An email from a Nigerian prince.
The Heimlich Maneuver from Barney Frank.
A prostate exam done by Captain Hook.
And finally - Bill Clinton at a Girl Scout conventionent
I wonder when someone is going to bring up Bill's trips to Teen Rape island?
Feb 06th, 2016 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyhoo it looks to most that Hillary is having a repeat of her last election disaster.
You know when she starts screeching and screeching its getting near the end.
https://vine.co/v/iJVrLtmE79H
I wonder which of these lucky ladies made it home with her?
@82 Klingon (#)
Feb 06th, 2016 - 05:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your CommThings I trust more than Hillary…
a handjob from yankeeboy?
or should that be 'yank it off and sell as a hotdog -boy?'
you would, of course, pay extra for the bun and onions...
ilsen, there's no need to be vulgar. Please do try to restrain yourself.
Feb 06th, 2016 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Looks like Hillary actually lost Iowa. The Dem party gave her some extra delegates she didn't earn.
Figures.
Hillary for jail.
:)
@ 84 ilsen
Feb 06th, 2016 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would be a little suspicious of the 'mayo'! :o)
I wanted to mention something since all everyone seems to be on this thread, remember awhile back I said Germany would collapse and bring the EU down with it?
Feb 06th, 2016 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It has begun and now news reporters are finally seeing it and reporting it.
Google “Germany collapse” and see all the news articles that started popping up last month.
And on another note, I have said for years China had nowhere near enough U$ to get them out of their mess. People are now saying if the outflows keep up like they did in 2015 (I predict they will be worse) they'll be out of cash next year.
It does get tiring defending posts long before any other yahoos can see what's coming.
It really does
:)
Hahaha! Yankeeboy: “Please, please I need your validation. Please tell me I am important”.
Feb 06th, 2016 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is truly pathetic that YB has to come to a message board to repeat stuff he heard on Fox News and claim he is some kind of news guru. That failure in Argentina really affected him.
88. How can one fail on vacation?
Feb 06th, 2016 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm merely reminding people what I say on here often comes to pass. You Skip and some other numbskulls don't believe it.
So you need reminding...
I seem to remember you are one of the people arguing with me that Germany was fine...
Can't face the truth now huh?
Anyhoo, I saw a peaceful Muslim raped a 10y/o boy in a public pool locker room because he had a sexual emergency.
Have you been off helping these wonderful peaceful people or are you like every filthy Prog you expect others to do it for you???
Wait I already know the answer to that...
@89 YB, you use the word 'filthy' a lot. Do you have a hygiene problem? You know it is always fat people that call other people fat as an insult so I am guessing it is the same with calling people dirty.
Feb 06th, 2016 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You were not on a five year vacation. You claim that but you set up home in Argentina. You rented a house long -term. Hired staff - so many one has to wonder if you can wipe your own arse. Bought a car and hired a driver. That is not a vacation; that is setting up home in another country for five years. That you were unable to work there is irrelevant. (Though some people claim that you did). You couldn't hack it there and went home with your tail between your legs. Now you are bitter and desperate for Argentina to fail because your failure would seem diminished.
You have a problem with your memory, YB.
It was a vacation. I never worked, played/partied all day and all night. I left the country every 3 mos for a couple weeks to see all of SoAm.
Feb 06th, 2016 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I consider that a vacation.
I don't have a problem with my memory you have a problem with reading comprehension.
Ive never once changed my story.
Not Once Not Ever.
I had a blast until I didn't and had to leave. It just got too dangerous and the dead-eyed children, zombie garbage pickers, dirty streets, ect ect ect got to me.
Take a look at Occupy This and That and tell me you don't think those people are filthy. They're the perfect example of a Progressive.
Frankly I've never seen a clean one.
@91 I remember you clearly stating that the last year was a mistake. No one vacations a whole extra year in a place they don't like; that is too dangerous. No one.
Feb 06th, 2016 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You left the country every three months because you had to. All the illegals living in Argentina have to do that.
You moved to Argentina for five years, it didn't work out and now you are back working in the U.S. Poor career planning.
If you were not such a loser you would not spend so much time trying to convince everyone you are a winner just because by accident of birth you are an American. That took no effort just a couple of minutes of your father's time and nine months of your mother's. You are fortunate but not a success because of that.
You rolled with the 'dirty animals' - your words for Argentines - for five years. What does that say about you?
Sweetie, we're from different classes obviously. It was much cheaper for me to live in an amazing house than live in a hotel. It was safer for me to have my own driver and car. Remember cars go up in value in Argentina. I also paid my rent 1 year in advance in U$. So the last year I paid and regretted it. I did leave before the year was up though and let a friend finish out the lease.
Feb 06th, 2016 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I stayed a year too long that is true. It kind of snuck up on me and I didn't realize how horrible it was until I actually got out of there.
I think of it as a Stockholm syndrome.
Thanks for your advice. My career is fine. I've been very lucky my whole life.
Yes being born an American is a blessing. I think you'd agree that I am one of the proudest Americans on here. I love my country but it did take living outside of it to appreciate it as much as I do now.
I was never illegal in Argentina. I was merely a tourist.
Pretty much everyone I knew in Argentina was rich, some of them very rich some of them very famous (for an Argentine, nobody here would know them)
You often try to paint what I say with a very broad brush.
That's part of your reading comprehension problem.
You argue like the Sistahs, misquoting, using partial quotes, one would think after all of this time you'd realize I remember everything I post.
Its easy since I don't lie
You should try it sometime.
Maybe ask one of your friend's sister's cousin's brother for advice on it.
troll
@93 We certainly are of a different class. Look at you trying to talk all gangsta.
Feb 06th, 2016 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You keep telling yourself you were on vacation. Too lazy to work for five years? And you complain about Argentines not wanting to work.
You set up home in Argentina. Tourists do not hire staff. They don't buy cars. Kinda slow aren't you to take five years to realise what a terrible place you were in? But you don't come across as the brightest crayon in the box.
Oh, I am sure you tried to jump a class or two with your dollars going further in Argentina. The dream didn't quite work out did it?
You failed. And you can't leave it alone, can you? Still on a message board obsessed with Argentina. How many years have you been here after your five year 'vacation'?
Again, how could I fail at vacationing? Did I do it too long for you? Did I live too well for you?
Feb 06th, 2016 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know plenty of people who rent houses with staff.
Just because you can't doesn't it doesn't happen.
I never have to be a climber although I've known plenty. I've always been part of the right people my family has been for almost 400yrs.
I very confident that I am smarter than you.
It didn't take me 5 years, you really do need to learn to read, it started getting bad the last year. I am not sure why you don't understand this? I had a great time then I didn't. I said about 1000X, what really drove it home were the commando assaults and the boxing in of the cars of my neighbors that got me thinking I've got to get out and get out but I should have done it a year earlier.
If anyone has failed it must be you since you bring it up so much. Seems to me you're envious of me and can't get me out of your head.
I think you're bonkers
and
nothing more than a filthy Prog troll.
But keep trolling me.
if it makes you feel better
loser.
@95 Envious of you? I pity you.
Feb 06th, 2016 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Having staff is not unusual. Hiring staff for a household for 5 years and claiming it is a vacation is. Only a bum or drug addict would 'party' for five years. You moved to Argentina and set up home there. You couldn't hack it and went back to America. Why can't you admit it? Did you get dumped? Something draws you back to obsessing over Argentina after all these years.
If you were really from a good family you would not boast about money and status. It is vulgar and a sure sign of someone from the aspiring classes.
How could it be considered boasting if someone asks and I answer truthfully?
Feb 06th, 2016 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've never claimed to be rich.
I am rich to some poor to others
Apparently richer than you tho
Smarter too
I am neither a bum or drug addict.
I did party for 5 years.
Is that too long for you?
Should I apologize for living a life you could only dream of?
It was a vacation, you're just a loser who's envious of me.
Since I don't think you know what it means:
Envy
noun, plural envies.
1.
a feeling of discontent or covetousness with regard to another's advantages, success, possessions, etc.
Sounds like you sweetheart.
Why don't you troll me some more
loser
@97 There is nothing about you or your life to envy.
Feb 06th, 2016 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tell your shrink that
Feb 06th, 2016 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you can stop trolling me
Latest GOP so called debate! Like a load of kids, incapable of saying anything intelligent whatsoever. Personal attacks, insults, like a schoolyard playground. Religious nuts, racists, mysoginists, a fatist, a has been, the best they can do. God help America, it continues to go down and down…
Feb 07th, 2016 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was so undecided on what to watch......an Oscar contender drama....The Reverant....or a comedy. I watched the comedy instead.
Feb 07th, 2016 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Christie scared the shit out of Rubio's diapers. I think he thought Christie wanted him for the SB50 instead of wings.
But really Cap, I am 57. There is not much different here then what happened in the 80's other than it used to be the Democraps that looked like that. This is out process for Head of State, unlike yours. I think you should save your prayers for the Middle East, they need it more, before Muslims overrun all of Europe.
Capt, thats why I tune in too. Read the review of the Revenant too from a critic I respect, but went to see Youth instead. Nice film that made you think. I like your political system and the idea of a presidency but it seems to have become constipated and the slave of big business far more than ours, although ours is heading in the same direction unfortunately. Rather than the establishment running things totally here, big business and corruption have surfaced.
Feb 07th, 2016 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What puzzles me is how a huge nation, six times the size of ours produces so few decent leadership candidates especially as the GOP represents the original Americans with a proud history progress.
There is a definate trend of Europe becoming more Muslim but Britain isnt full of shame like Germany and the rest are waking up too. Our borders are a little porous and we do control them better though not well enough.
I dontv hink the Dem side looks great either, its all to play for…
100. Why would you watch a US Political party's debate on a Sat night?
Feb 07th, 2016 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a terribly boring life you must have.
Weird, just weird.
I didnt, just an edited recording on the news and an article in the Sunday papers. Saturday night we were down the pub with friends. We can watch CNBC nightly news, but we didnt. What did you do YB, go out for a Big Mac and fries and listen to Murdochs crap on Fox?
Feb 07th, 2016 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You'd be happier if you paid more attention to your own countries enormous issues.
Feb 07th, 2016 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A night in a pub
smirk
I saw a number of people holding “trump is right ” posters in Birmingham.
No riots this time
So that's good
:0
Yanks, Super Bowl! I'd rather watch the Ashes with a pint. All fur coat and no knickers.
Feb 07th, 2016 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for sharing that.
Feb 08th, 2016 - 02:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Gosh, apparently Beyonce got political, Formation described as a Black Panther album! The brothers loved it. Set to become an anthem for rioters?
Feb 08th, 2016 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Once the Community Organizer in Chief is gone those kinds of things will die off because they won't have a national voice.
Feb 08th, 2016 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just like the hippies died off once the nation was righted again.
This is just a repeat of Carter.
but worse.
Still better than whats coming down the road for the UK.
Deflation is worse than high inflation
The pound needs to be cut to 1.10/1U$ or maybe even parity.
While the Euro goes into .90s/1U$ ( if it stays an active currency)
ummm....
Feb 09th, 2016 - 03:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who are the 'Sistahs' ?
I mean, who personally? Anyone in particular?
Any individuals I may/not of heard of?
Do tell!
Sistahs are what I call the many and varied personas on here used by the same person for reasons I can not begin to understand.
Feb 09th, 2016 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is Beyonce one of them?
Feb 11th, 2016 - 02:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0I notice Trump WON at NH!
Feb 11th, 2016 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All the others only got 10% whilst he got 30%. The others are 'considering their position@! I bet they are.
7 ChrisR
“Trump in second, but magnanimous in 'defeat'. Don't write him off yet!”
@ 9 ElaineB
“The polls indicated Trump would win in Iowa and he lost. For a man campaigning on 'I am a winner and if you vote for me you will be a winner', he is one big loser now.”
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