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Falklands defend their right to self-determination at UN Decolonisation Committee in New York
Falkland Islands Legislative Assembly members, Mike Summers and Gavin Short, speaking early today at the Special Committee on Decolonisation at the United Nations in New York argued that the Falkland Islands and its people have the right to determine their own future. Argentine Foreign Minister Susana Malcorra is scheduled to present Argentina’s case to the C24 claiming Argentine sovereignty over the Falkland Islands later this afternoon. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesNow we get to hear Sr Betts and his Argentinian version of the truth. I really think I recognise him from somewhere, now think, think, think, ohh I just can't place him.....Voicey, help me out.....
Jun 23rd, 2016 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falklands self-determination:
Jun 23rd, 2016 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.academia.edu/11206553/Falklands_-_Self-Determination
Are they wheeling Betts out this year?
Jun 23rd, 2016 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I seem to remember they 'rested' him last year, and the session didn't end with the C-24 singing 'Rule Britannia'. Argentina might gamble that they can survive at least one more year without him before their case collapses. They can always hedge their bets by producing yet another of the Vernet Clan. There must be at least one or two of them who haven't taken a turn yet.
On the other hand, they do need to get their money's worth for that pension. Difficult to call, really...
we have no intention of becoming a colony of Argentina”.
Jun 23rd, 2016 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hear Hear.
Already getting transcripts of Malcorra,s- the usual- a-la-kirschener diretribe! We are not a people-no rights to have a say in our own future etc etc- no self determination-oh not to worry - SOMEONE ELSE(she) will decide what is best for our interests!!!! etc etc - and this big bummed lady thinks she is entitled to apply to be UN Gen Sec!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 23rd, 2016 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I doubt if she can even spell the words Democracy and Human Rights - let alone have a clue what they mean in the 21st Century - where we all live , as apart for the 18th where she lives!
#5: Islander, i dont think you have any idea of what democracy is. So i recommend you not to judge Malcorra on the same subject. Dont forget Argentina is a worldwide recognised democracy and Malvinas is a worldwide recognised colonie.
Jun 24th, 2016 - 03:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0@6 liberato
Jun 24th, 2016 - 07:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0No it's you that doesn't understand democracy.
You've never had true democracy in Argentina...just a bunch of corrupt officials who pay people to vote for them.
There is no such place as these malvinas that you talk about. There IS a Non-Self Governing Territory called the Falkland Islands which is recognised by the UN. And the UN has stated numerous times that ALL NSGTs have the RIGHT to self determination.
It is Argentina that refuses to accept the truth. It is Argentina that has to LIE to try and make a case. And it is Argentina that refuses to accept the democratic will of the people of the Falkland Islands because they reject your imperialist attempts to conquer and colonise them.
The C24 should be disbanded because it isn't doing its job. It's job is to assist ALL NSGTs (no exceptions) to whatever outcome the people of those territories want, NOT to hand them over (against the will of the people) to an imperialist crackpot country that would abuse their human rights and freedoms.
So the UN should hold referendums in ALL these territories to let them decide their future and the C24 should be disbanded.
And if Argentina doesn't like that you can always go to the International Courts of Justice and present your case. But you're going to need more than lies and propaganda to overrule the right to self determination that the Falkland Islanders have and are guaranteed under the UN Charter.
#7: quote 1:“You've never had true democracy in Argentina...just a bunch of corrupt officials who pay people to vote for them.”
Jun 24th, 2016 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Says who?. You are telling me british polititians are not corrupt?. They are not filmed consuming drugs? they are not accused of brivery in Parliament?. They are not acused of having a pig lover and cocaine consumer as a Prime Minister?.
quote2: “There is no such place as these malvinas that you talk about. There IS a Non-Self Governing Territory called the Falkland Islands which is recognised by the UN. And the UN has stated numerous times that ALL NSGTs have the RIGHT to self determination.”.
So for you a Non-Self Governing Territory is not a territory under colonialism?. Is not a territory under the process of decolonization?. The UN has said all PEOPLES of NSGT. And the islanders are a population of british citizens.
quote3: “... it is Argentina that refuses to accept the democratic will of the people of the Falkland Islands...”
Hahaha, Argentina, The United Nations, South America, The USA, etc.
Democratic will????.
quote4;“The C24 should be disbanded...”
Right, as it doesnt suit british interests.
Quote5: “So the UN should hold referendums in ALL these territories to let them decide their future and the C24 should be disbanded.”
Right the UN should do what you think they should do. I wonder why dont they ask you what they should do next?.
IT needs two for the Tango. This will only be settled by the will of the UK and Argentina.
Well liberato, the positions of both countries on the Global Corruption Index is telling.
Jun 24th, 2016 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UK - 10
Argentina - 107
http://www.transparency.org/cpi2015#results-table
The numbers don't lie...unless they've been prepared by INDEC.
Why does Argentina always want to move backwards,
Jun 24th, 2016 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0do they like living in the past.
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Jun 24th, 2016 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How many times do you have to be told, you will have to have trilateral talks ( Argentina UK and the FALKLANDS ) as the UK will not enter into talks until you drop your article in your constitution as regards sovereignty and also have talks with the democratically elected government of the FALKLANDS.So until that happens nothing will change. Do you see how democracy works in the UK? BREXIT great stuff
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Jun 25th, 2016 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“So for you a Non-Self Governing Territory is not a territory under colonialism?. ”
No. If the Falkland Islanders were under colonialist rule, they would have NO choice whether they were British or not.
The Falkland Islanders are not British because the UK are forcing them to be British, they are British because the people who are born on Falklands soil ( i.e. not UK born and all flown to the Islands, one by one, from the UK , like you suggest) want to be British.
Therefore they can't be colonised by the British, unless they disapprove of British rule.
It is Argentina that wants to make the Falkland Islands a colony so if they were under Argentine rule, they would still have to be covered by the C24, which recommends former colonies to gain Independence. So as a colony of Argentina, the Islanders would be entitled to chose Independence.
#12: “No. If the Falkland Islanders were under colonialist rule, they would have NO choice whether they were British or not. ”
Jun 25th, 2016 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well for the UN and Argentina they are. And your assumption is based thinking that all forms of colonialism is when one nation subjugate another people under a colonial system. There are more than one form of colonialism. If you need me too i can guide you to several dictionaries online.
But the fact is, they ARE british and they didnt need to choose to be british. Its like if the UK colonize Syberia putting their own citizens there and then makes them choose if they want to keep their british nationalities. That wont makes them another people different from those living in Britain and will not makes Syberia less Russian.
You have no idea what Argentina would do in the case the islands are returned. And of course the UN will keep an eye on the development as they are doing right now. And right now they are telling you that the islands remains in a colonial situation. Shocking isnt it?.
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