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Falklands' fresh produce high prices blamed on Montevideo's port charges and fees

Saturday, August 13th 2016 - 09:26 UTC
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Uruguayan port charges and fees from port operators and shipping agents are the cause of fresh produce being so expensive in the Falkland Islands, Stanley Nurseries Tim Miller told Penguin News this week. Montevideo port costs add 75-100%, “on top of actual SAAS (shipper) freight costs. In UK similar operations add a mere 20% to the SAAS freight cost said Mr. Miller. Read full article

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  • Briton

    Surely another cheaper way can be found,
    what abt importing from the UK and transporting it by the RAF on its visits to the islands,
    or is this already being done.

    Aug 13th, 2016 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Whiiiine...
    “In England this”...
    “In England that”...
    If you want it as in England..., move to England!

    Aug 13th, 2016 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @2. Many years ago, one of the world's finest statesmen said “We have our own dream........” One of which is to take civilisation to Latin America.

    We have a number of outposts. Eventually, LatAm will implode, everyone down there will murder each other and it will be our turn.

    Aug 13th, 2016 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @2
    There are far more people whinging in Argentina than the FALKLANDS about everything that Macri does.

    Aug 13th, 2016 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Whìiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine.....

    Aug 13th, 2016 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Well hopefully Argentina will stop its economic blockade and sabotage of the Falklands and competition will eventually bring this down.

    Aug 13th, 2016 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Burst Slipper

    @2 - He never said anything about wanting it as in England. You obviously don't know how comparisons work.

    And very productive input into the conversation. Well done. Have a cookie.

    Aug 13th, 2016 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    If you want it as in England..., move to England!
    or
    If you want it as in Argentina, then stop trying to steal what is not yours,

    nothing wrong with England , Scotland , wales or northern Ireland,
    but why go 8,ooo plus miles when the islanders are quite happy enough in the Falkland's.

    Aug 13th, 2016 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Whìiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine...

    Aug 13th, 2016 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 6 Skip

    There is NO competition! It is simply not permitted ONLY the Aduanas control the port and all the services therein.

    The children who govern us (The Broad Fraud) jack the prices up for everybody, Uruguayos and foreigners all have to accept this nonsense or you don't get your goods AND then they sell them to 'defray costs'.

    The favourite trick for those coming to live in Uruguay is to impound the container (which is in itself free of port charges) due to something else travelling within 'the free area', in my case my Suzuki motorbike in it's own crate. This had already been declared 6 weeks before the container left the UK and the documents treated as a chargeable import. The Aduanas insisted that the container be opened and inspected for the automobile that was in there!” It turned out that a 1255cc bike weighing 257Kgs was thought to be a car! I was there when the container was opened and introduced to the TWO Aduana management who could not comprehend that I would import this myself via my UYU handlers. They did not believe the Suzuki UK sales catalogue was truthful! It was like negotiating with a brick wall.

    Eventually, when the crate was opened and they could see for themselves it was a bike they issued me with the import certificate AND an invoice for UYU$5,000 (GBP 125) for the 'personal service'.

    THAT was my first experience with UYU Government 'thieving' and sadly, not my last. But enough for now.

    Aug 13th, 2016 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Whìiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine

    Aug 13th, 2016 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Yes Chris I can know that corruption and poor service is a hallmark of many developing countries. It is a shame that people accept it as part and parcel of their existence without realising how much it drags them down.

    The best thing going for the Falklands is that technology is on their side. The internet opens up opportunities and freight keeps working its way lower and lower. In comparison it will always be higher than others but it will be lower over time.

    And also, with a pragmatic Argentinean president, things should get better. Once Argentina starts working more like a normal country, a lot of business that was using Uruguay will return to BsAs.

    Aug 13th, 2016 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    I seem to recall Think, that Argentina has also complained about the high prices at the Montevideo port. No?

    Aug 13th, 2016 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    You recall incorrectly..., me dear plantation bobby...
    How's the shoulder, by the way...

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    Shoulder?

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 06:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Da_pict

    Lol think, short memory
    Wasn't there a major corruption cracked last year.
    But as in most of SA, catch the crooks at the top and the rest of the order just moves up a couple of notches

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 07:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo01

    @10 Andy Capp

    One more thing we know about you - you are the owner of an imported Suzuki motor cycle. One more piece of information for the LONG list!

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (15) Jup, your shoulder...
    Your “Redhoyt” shoulder, remember?
    Must be doing OK since you forgot about it ;-)

    (16) Typical Anglo Turnip mixing apples with pears...
    Fact is that Argentina has NOT complained about any “high prices at the Montevideo port”...

    If it was “a major corruption cracked last year”... well, that's another story...

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 12 Skip
    “Once Argentina starts working more like a normal country, a lot of business that was using Uruguay will return to BsAs.”

    Exactly, blindingly obvious to you and me but 'the children' claim they will win MORE traffic off BsAs!

    Absolutely pitiful The Broad Fraud. You couldn't make this up.

    I really despair at times with how they have rigged the electorate that we will ever have a sensible government.

    @ 17 Nancy

    I thought you had been posting on here since before me?

    Why is it that there are no records under gordo1 / 01 or fathead or fatty on MP, could you be lying and as you seem always to 'pop-up' after ElaineB are you her / his sock puppet?

    The reason I ask is VERY simple! You must be the only one on here who hasn't heard of my bike. You will have to do MUCH better to get everything else that you have missed on this mythical list of yours.

    Now go back to sleep like a good Nancy and leave the grown-ups to talk.

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    Think, I had forgotten. Once the red Hoyt had gone (and the 12 bore too) I have had no problems. Thank you for remembering for me.

    The suggestion is that the high prices are down to local corruption at Montevideo port - particularly when the same service is charged for 2 or even 3 times. Still, what can you expect from 3rd world countries?

    Happy Falklands Day :-)

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Je vous en prie, Mr Redhoyt.......

    By the way...
    The suggestion that the high prices are down to local corruption at Montevideo port - particularly when the same service is charged for 2 or even 3 times - is wrong...

    As far as I remember, from the days I had some rubbing with international commerce and transport...,, the practice of charging the full amount of service fees to each and every customer in a container is common practice all over the world...

    Some places in Asia they even charge you the full service fees to each an every invoice in the bill of lading... even if you are the only customer on that container !!!

    Still, what can you expect from capitalism?

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    I bow to your greater knowledge on the issue of corruption Think. Around here, offering a bribe to a policeman has suddenly become an arrestable offence. Perhaps only dictatorships can actually achieve stability .......... still, the bribes were a lot cheaper than the fines :-)

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (22) Mr. Roger Lorton

    Why do you insist to call corruption an expensive but official charges and fees system...?

    Kelper Popeye Miller doesn't mention corruption nowhere... Neither does MercoPress...

    Kelper “Popeye” Miller is just whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiining about the high cost of the tariffs and fees charged by the private port operators and private shipping agents in Uruguay...

    Each of those expensive charges and fees is duly invoiced to Kelper Popeye Miller and he pays the bills through the Uruguayan bank system....

    All perfectly legal, businesslike and capitalistic...
    Capisce?

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @2
    “If you want it as in England..., move to England!”

    So as your logic states therefore, that if the charges for containerisation for export in the Falkland Islands are less , then maybe as Mr Miller might want it' as it is in the Falklands', then he can stay in the Falklands according to your logic.

    Your logic also states that if the containerisation charges were drastically reduced in Montevideo, then he would perhaps then move to Uruguay, when in fact he would probably chose to stay in his homeland.

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Geeeeeeeeeeeeee.......... them Kelpers...
    Pockets full of money but as cheesesparing as ever...
    Whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiners.....

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    22 Roger Lorton

    Congratulations on the award.

    25

    I'm not sure Tim Miller is actually complaining rather than explaining why the prices are what they are. I personally don't have a problem with the costs of fresh fruit and veg. While it is a lot more expensive than in South America or Europe, other things are much cheaper here than in those places. No complaints from this poor Kelper.

    Poor old Think.

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Popeye ain't complaining allright....
    He's whiiiiiiiiiiiiining...

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    Whatever makes you act like you're happy you sad old thing.

    Who are you backing in the tennis? Your compatriot or your pretend compatriot?

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Good match till now...
    Delpo, of course...

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    Ah, your pretend compatriot. Do you always back losers or only where the UK is concerned?

    Are you staying up til 2:30 to watch Bolt?

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Nope...

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    Charging for the same thing 3 times hardly sounds legal to me Think, but then perhaps it's the way of ports. Out here those charges have to be paid in cash, and it is (was) damned difficult to get a receipt.

    Thank you Jo Bloggs. I feel very honoured.

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Not just the way of ports..., me dear flatfoot...

    The way of capitalism...

    Or do you just pay for one ticket when you take the whole family to the movies?

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    Communists get into cinema's for free Think?

    Now, nobody told me that. Could have changed my whole life :-)

    Still, even under capitalism I don't expect to pay for a movie ticket and then get charged for what's in my pockets.

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Not entirely free...
    ~20 kopecks for adults...
    ~10 for children...
    Veterans free...

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    Any blockbusters?

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    A few..
    .~ 40 kopecks

    Aug 14th, 2016 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Turnip @37 please expain why a lot of your guys left before the end and why the Brazilian locals were supporting our Andy? And, where was that neandethal Voice person - he claims to be Scotch?

    Aug 15th, 2016 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC
    Scotch is something to drink...
    Scottish is something to be proud of...

    Aug 15th, 2016 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RedBaron

    SAAS freight costs are not shipper cost but SHIPPING LINE 9(or carrier) costs.
    A shipper is the exporter (Mercopress is using the US interpretation of “shipper”).

    Aug 15th, 2016 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.

    Aug 16th, 2016 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Hepatitis, you have been saying that for the last 3 years. Is 25 years a moving target?

    Aug 16th, 2016 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CapiTrollism_is_back!!

    Eat more lamb.

    Aug 18th, 2016 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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