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Argentina promises 'respectful' cooperation over Falkland Islands

Friday, September 9th 2016 - 06:07 UTC
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The Guardian's diplomatic editor Patrick Wintour caught up with Argentine foreign minister Susana Malcorra in London and interviewed her on UK-Argentina relations and the Falklands/Malvinas dispute. Ms Malcorra said Argentina wants to end the era of confrontation over the South Atlantic islands. Read full article

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  • Kanye

    Desperate words of a campaigning politician, no more.

    If the female candidates running, or any candidates running, do not have enough merit, do not elect them. Simple.

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    'willing to lift restrictions on air flights from Latin America'

    Too funny.... I don't think the RGs run SA any more....

    Its all weasel words from a wall-eyed weasily tribe of wankers....

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 07:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rufus

    Then unilaterally end the ban on FI flagged ships
    end the ban on charter flights to the Falklands using Argentine airspace
    Remove the claim for the islands from the Argentine constitution

    Otherwise the best, the very best that this is, (assuming that it is a genuine attempt at a rapprochement) is a hollow display that no-one even vaguely aware of the past will accept as a rerun of the brief thawing under Menem before the Kirchners arrived on the scene.

    We've all seen the malign lie too often and too recently to accept the benign lie at the drop of a hat (or an article in the Guardian, especially one that doesn't allow comments)

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    'Our claim to the Malvinas will be sustained,' Malcorra said.

    What claim?

    You've never owned the Falklands so how can you possibly claim them?

    https://www.academia.edu/17799157/Falklands_-_Some_Relevant_International_Law

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GALlamosa

    “Respectful”. You wouldn't know it lady if it bit you on the arse. Respectful is not denying the existence of Falkland Islanders. Respectful is not insisting that all discussions can be only bi-lateral. Respectful is talking to us like adults, not behaving like spoiled children.

    I welcome respectful, but its content so far is the same as the “humanitarian” approach she touted a few months back. Nada.

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    I see that argieland hasn't made the leap into being adult yet.

    What joint ventures on hydrocarbons does she have in mind? Any gas or oil in the environs of the Falkland Islands belongs to the Islanders. Nothing to do with the UK. But we do hope that, when the Islands are filthy rich, they will remember their assertion that they will pay for their defence. Not that our defence commitment will cease if they don't contribute.

    Argieland might wish to resume direct flights to and from the Islands. But that's a matter for the Islanders, not the UK. The actions of some argie “visitors” might make them unwelcome.

    The false and illegitimate “claim” to the Falkland Islands is contained in the “Temporary Provisions” section of the argie constitution. Shouldn't be too hard to delete it and re-number all the rest. And it was only “implanted” in 1994. If “implanted” settlers are viewed as wrong, then an “implanted” Temporary Provision must also be wrong.

    Malcorra might be confident “ that the UK would not regard her nationality as a reason to veto her bid to succeed the current UN secretary general, Ban Ki-moon”. Perhaps she should seek the opinions of Islanders and Britons.

    “We think over the long term a solution can be found but in the meantime we can and should be respectful, and find ways to open up the opportunities for confidence-building measures.“ Yeah. Abandon that ”claim” and admit that it's been a lie from the beginning.

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    lol.

    I hope and fully support the midget's selection as UN general secretary.

    I also require that the UN be defunded in perpetuity.

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jay Buchan

    Argentina is willing to consider resuming direct flights to and from the Falklands Islands is it, Oh that's Great, One Question though, is the FIG aware of this ??????????

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Ha ha ha ha ,,look flying piggy's , superman , batman,

    the second biggest laugh this year.

    ha ha ha ha .

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    On a serious note:

    I want to see Malcorra on a special Latam addition of dancing with the stars.

    Yep, Malcorra paired with Diego Moronica.

    Top that is you can!

    Do you have a better pairing for an all star latam political deviant edition of dancing with the stars?

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    “Respectful cooperation” ?? WTF? There is no word for “respectful” in the Argentine argot.

    If The Guardian were not such a silly leftist rag they might cover the topic thusly: “Slimy Argies Concoct Devious New Plan to Weasel Their Way to Falklands.”

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Yes! They're trying to infiltrate FI!

    How about Cretina dancing the foxtrot with the corpse of Augusto Pinochet?

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    “and a joint UK-Argentine exploration of hydrocarbons around the Islands”

    What a ludicrous thing to say. Maybe Argentines really do utterly believe other people's cookie jars are just theirs too. Do the Falkland Islanders get to do any “joint exploring” for resources in Argentina?

    “Looking at the female candidates, it would be a surprise to me if the UN decides that none of them merits appointment.“

    So, the first consideration for this ”huge” position, is a person's gender. Great intellect there.

    Also, if you open flights to Argentina, your economy will have more prospects, but ultimately, you won't have your home anymore.

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Burst Slipper

    1. The oil has nothing to do with the UK as it's in the Falklands' territorial waters and it's the Falklands who decide what happens there, not the UK.

    2. She wants to be respectful while issuing ultimatums; “We'll open up the airspace as long as you land a plane in BA.”

    3. Wants a respectful relationship, but still refuses to acknowledge the Falkland Islands authority over their land. Yup, that's how it works.

    4. The UN job - she might be “outside” the bureaucracy, but not outside the realm of reality. A persons genitals should not be a qualifier for getting a job. Whatever happened to the best person for it? Or is she immediately going to recognise the self-determination of the Falklanders once she sits behind the desk?

    5. The rubbish in the last couple of paragraphs smell of cash. Was the writer paid by her office to type out that rubbish?

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    This article is mis-titled - it's focus is on Malcorras candidacy and campaigning tactics to mislead and allay fears. BS

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Perhaps she is trying to impress on those who may offer her a brand new job,

    She would go a long way, and be mightily impressive if she , first and foremost removed the Falkland's theft claim from her constitution,
    and secondly tell the world and the UN that she and her country recognised the existence and rights of the islanders,

    Now this in no way gives her or Argentina any rights,
    but it would show that they were wrong to do it in the first place...

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Well..., well..., well...

    Now that we argies are becoming Bestis with the Brits, we could do them a favour and buy those British minnow oil companies in Malvinas....

    Them poor Engrish investors could get some of their hard earned monies back and we Argies would, in a very unhurried way, carefully re-evaluate the feasibility of the whole project...

    That could take some years...

    A win win situation,... don't you Think?

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    I don't Think so Tinker.
    Argies need to learn to Think more long term when dreaming about our beautiful Falkland Islands and bountiful resources.

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    Buy the oil companies with what?

    Idiot

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • FitzRoy

    @17: You posted at 1903, seven-thirty in the evening, I note, but where I am it's still only 1835! You're supposed to be in Argentina aren't you?

    Anyway, you are the man to answer this question as you are so infinitely wise in these matters. How can Argentina go into business with a group of companies it took to court a couple of years ago?
    The next question is this; why is Malcorra speaking with the British Government about this? Surely she needs to be speaking to the FCO and the Falkland Islands Government. Perhaps you can explain that to me, Think.
    Thirdly, Conqueror @6, you are right and I think FIG will probably increase the amount of money they provide to the MOD to further develop MPA and the satellite units around the Islands. FIG all ready makes a contribution towards the upkeep of defence in the Islands.
    And fourthly, I doubt that there is anyone here who would want direct flights from Argentina any time soon.
    Please, Think, I look forward to your thoughts on these questions.

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @20
    I don't know about you but I certainly would not fly with Aerolineas Argentinas as long as I have a hole in me arse, I have had on one ocassion had to fly with them because I could not get a flight with Austral from Ba to Neuquen

    Sep 09th, 2016 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    Does Argentina have enough cash to buy anything Think?

    Don't forget, the FIG control licensing :-)

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (20) Mr. Fitz Roy

    As always, I'm more than willing to answer any sensible Kelper question....

    1) About MercoPress clock... It seems to have its own ways... Their problem...
    By the way... I have also been accused of not being an Argentinean because some early morning activity on this page....
    Curiously, at them wee hours of the morning, I get some responses from Malvinas...
    We Patagonian camp dwellers are in general early risers... and you Kelpers in particular luuuv to surf the internet in the free early morning hours....generously given to you by Sure...

    2) You ask why Malcorra is talking to them Poms...
    Well... Argie politics is to talk to those running the circus... not the Kelpers...

    3) Cheese-paring and practical as you Kelpers are..., I'm positive there would be some customers in them windblown islands for some tickets to London in half the time at half the price...

    Have a nice weekend...
    El Think...

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 05:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    Typical arrogant Argentine nonsense from Malcorra!

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 05:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    And more nonsense from fake Argentine bottom-dweller, Mr. Think. Just stirring up crap like bottom-dwellers do

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 06:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    Argies don't quite get respectful cooperation.
    Which is part of the reason they need to Think long term....very long term.

    Malcorra - your music is still too loud - turn it down, there's a good fat lady.

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @ 23 THINK

    Just give us a few reasons why the Falkland Islanders should have any contact with Argentina - what advantages are there for them? And, please, no juvenile nonsense but grown up and mature reply!

    Bear in mind their preferences include Chile and Uruguay, two friendly nations!

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 07:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @20 Fitzroy
    The MP clock appears to show GMT, which is 3 hours ahead of Argentina.

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Would one fly with Aerolineas ?
    Apparently they provide parachutes,
    Far to dodgy...lol

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GALlamosa

    “Respectful” apparently includes telling barefaced lies. FIG has not agreed to any flights yet, most particularly FI-BA flights, but we hope to see the new airlink to Sao Paolo soon without interference.

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Sao Paolo?
    Is that close to Punta Harinas?
    Or maybe is it in the vicinity of Buenos Aries?

    Chuckle, chuckle...

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Think an early riser? Bahahaha… . In reality he shuttles between HQ at 65 Brook Street and Dunoon (although he is banned from the Yacht Club and the Combined Services).
    Watch for frequent posts at 4am and earlier RG time. :-) He cant seem to resist adopting his Hissing Sid personna on anything he believes will divide the bonds between Falkands, Scotland, England, Gibraltar. Like Nostrils he aint where he claims to be.

    As for direct RG flights to the Falklands forget it, admitting more RG knuckledraggers is not an attractive prospect.

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • FitzRoy

    @23: I was anticipating something more constructive from you.
    The last time we flew via S. America it took two days. At Rio Gallegos our luggage was pretty much destroyed and things were taken away - nothing illegal, just clothes for some reason. The price was lower, granted, but not so much as to make it an attractive future option.
    As for “those running the circus”, surely she should be talking to FIG, the non-nationalised oil companies themselves and not just the press? The British Government don't govern the Falkland Islands. She is giving you more information than she actually has to give - an aspiration is not a fact, nor is it likely to be the actual outcome.
    viz. There won't be direct flights from Argentina and there is unlikely to be collaboration in the hydrocarbons business in the way she would like to think.
    As I said, the oil companies, having been prosecuted in Argentina, are unlikely to want to get into bed with you, I don't see how that would even be possible. I just wanted to hear your view on this.
    For your info, I very rarely operate in the middle of the night, I'm perfectly happy with what Sure provide at the moment.

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    “Malcorra, one of the leading candidates to become the first female secretary general of the UN in the organization’s history...She also expressed confidence that the UK would not regard her nationality as a reason to veto her bid to succeed the current UN secretary general, Ban Ki-moon.”

    Wrong! Given that her position in 'the race' means she has little, if any, chance of getting the job AND the fact that the UK has more to gain by blocking the idiot I think she is even more delusional than ever.

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (33) Mr. FitzRoy

    I believe this is not the first time you read my comments... soooo..., why would you anticipate something more constructive from me?

    The fact that you Kelpers are used as the principal excuse for the UK's archaic colonial claim of some 12,000,000 square km. of South Atlantic and Anctartic Chilean and Argentinean territory does not predispose me all to positively towards you folks...

    Sorry though about the theft/damage of your luggage in Rio Gallegos...
    ...Anyhow, we were speaking about a theoretical fast and cheap flight Malvinas/ Buenos Aires with direct connection with the British Airways Buenos Aires/London flight..
    (Remember next time to include some extra luggage insurance to your general travel insurance...)

    As for speaking to “those running the circus”...we will have to agree about disagreeing...
    The Crown doesn't just govern Malvinas..., they openly declare to own the place in all their official papers...
    You are graciously allowed to elect some local authorities at them Islands alright...as long as they govern “properly”..., meaning...: As Mom England wishes...

    Yours
    El Think

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @ 35 Think
    Come now Think, as you know well, it has all been British territory since long before the Creole republics of S. America even existed, never mind finished murdering their indigenous populations.

    We have at least as much right to be in the S. Atlantic/Antarctic, which we took from no one, as you Indian murdering Creole Planter Bastards have to be in S. America.

    Unlike Atahualpa or the Mapuche, Selknap, the British have more than just sticks and stones with which to defend their territory.

    Is the truth of it.

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    Funny that “Hissing Sid” denounces the historic and de facto UK ownership and administration of areas of the South Atlantic, but implies that it would be perfectly acceptable for them to be Argentine.

    Pure hypocrisy.

    As to his “ Mom England” reference, just more of the not so subtle English-hating he and other socks have in common, consistently employed as a wedge between England, and the rest of the U.K., as previously mentioned.

    Who says insomnia does not addle the brain?

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @ 37 Kanye
    In Think’s case, its cheap whiskey.

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    Cheap whiskey, to be sure.

    The “Think” operator is a pretentious snob.

    He jealously aspires to the finer things in life, and to consumer goods that are tantalisingly just outside his grasp.

    He is not even a “Caviar Socialist/Communist”, but he is a brand of elitist Socialist.

    Can anyone actually imagine him willingly rubbing shoulders with the noble proletariat?
    In reality, he despises them as beneath him, and does has done his best to distance himself.

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    Still, he's pretty funny sometimes.

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    Only unwittingly

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    “Argentina promises 'respectful' cooperation”.....that's a joke of course.

    Just like your neighbour invading your land, fencing off a few hectares and then to avoid you going to court he suggests, “look, I agree to share it with you”...

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gamakin

    Mrs Susana Malcorra, the Argentine Minister for Foreign Affairs, recently in London, was interviewed by Patrick Wintour on 08-09-2016. Malcorra is saying all the right things on the “Malklands/Falkinas” dispute, but I fear the Minister is perhaps forgetting that such is the islander anti-Argentine sentiment that they have so far scuppered every attempt to work together. Remember when on the 1980’s the skipper of the “Indiana” a ship contracted by the island government to provision the islands insisted that provisioning from Argentina was the only way to do the job. The islanders cancelled the licence. Legco even wrote to me in the 1980’s warning me that my visit representing Clarín was not welcome adding that if I travelled I would not be allowed to land. Then came another instance with the deplorable exclusion of Argentine companies from all hydrocarbon joint ventures. Their rhetoric has not changed I fear. I hope I'm wrong but the islanders are as bad as the followers of Ian Paisley. One of the members of the large Miller family inhabiting the islands had no compunction to write to the in the 1982/3 House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee report: “Argentines are Latin and by their very nature violent”. Have islanders and their lobby changed enough to drop their veto on cooperation? Lord Shackleton, the premier expert on the island economy, told me and I published it in Clarín in 1982 that the islands would only be feasible economically and demographically if they integrated with Argentina but then, Shackleton warned, there is the strong anti-Argentine sentiment.

    Yours truly,


    Guillermo A. Makin, Ph. D. (Cambridge), Prof. Universidad de Belgrano, Argentina
    Research Fellow, Instituto de Relaciones Internacionales, (IRI) Universidad Nacional de la Plata, Argentina
    58 Mulberry Close - Leys Road - Cambridge CB4 2AS - United Kingdom
    T: [44] (0)1223-353692 mobile: [44] (0)7951580604
    email: guillermo.makin@virginmedia.com
    Skype: Guillermo.Makin; gamakin
    htt

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    lt seems that you gentlemen have very correctly summed up our resident Anglophobe snake, Herr Think.
    Well done.
    He is indeed, a slimy individual.
    But make no mistake, he hates us with a passion.
    He is only surpassed by that deluded creature, Hepatia.

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    The fact that you Kelpers are used as the principal excuse for the UK's archaic colonial claim of some 12,000,000 square km. of South Atlantic and Anctartic Chilean and Argentinean territory does not predispose me all to positively towards you folks...

    OK.so tell us why the UK wants all this territory. What do we do with it ?
    Why do you want it as you have a huge land mass and a relatively small population. I have never heard any explanation apart from “we want it” It's ours”. what have the sub-Antarctic islands got to do with you. You have exactly no claim to them.
    Please explain....in English please without the use of doggerel of which you are over fond.

    Sep 10th, 2016 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    “The fact that you Kelpers are used as the principal excuse for the UK's archaic colonial claim of some 12,000,000 square km. of South Atlantic and Anctartic Chilean and Argentinean territory does not predispose me all to positively towards you folks...”

    Wrong as usual Think. South Georgia, the South Sandwich Islands, our sub-Antarctic Territories and Antarctic Territories all have separate histories and are British because of those histories. Nothing to do with the Falklands.

    Indeed, if the Falklanders decided tomorrow to become part of Argentina, all those other islands and territories would remain British.

    All Chile and Argentina has is geography - long declared of no consequence in international law.

    Sep 11th, 2016 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    “Stressing that Argentina’s claim to the Falklands is implanted in its constitution, Malcorra, one of the leading candidates to become the first female secretary general of the UN in the organization’s history, told The Guardian she wanted to end the era of confrontation.”

    It is good that Argentina is talking about, possibly, behaving in a more civilised, mature fashion and treating its neighbour, the Falkland Islands, with a bit more ‘respect’.

    But, as has been pointed out on this thread, does Argentina have any real understanding of the word ‘respect’? If they did, Ms Malcorra would be talking about dropping Argentina’s fraudulent claim to the islands and the surrounding maritime spaces. Recognising the people of the Falkland Islands as the legitimate owners of their Islands is how Argentina can begin to show ‘respect’.

    Over the years, it has been successive generations of politicians in Argentina who have created a myth that the Falklands belonged to Argentina with their rabble rousing, specious claims regarding sovereignty. These claims were made to enhance their own political prospects without any regard to the long term damage that they were doing to the stability in the region and the development of their small neighbour. It was the politicians who then compounded the problem and ‘implanted’ Argentina’s sovereignty claims into its constitution and now politicians, like Ms Malcorra, have the temerity to use the constitution as the excuse to do nothing but continue the whole deception.

    Besides, is this really about creating a better climate between the Falklands, Britain and Argentina? Methinks this is all about Malcorra’s bid to become SG of the UN. She is frightened that the UK will veto her candidacy.

    Why does Argentina want her to gain the SG job anyway, is it possible that they think they will be able to control the UN if an Argentine becomes SG?

    Same old delusional thinking.

    Sep 11th, 2016 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    46

    Mister Under

    This is precisely about her rather transparent attempt to get elected by disarming British concerns in the region.

    What a deceitful two faced old cow.

    As soon as she loses her bid to get elected, I wouldn't be surprised if Macri dumps her, rather quickly.

    Cue T Hill

    Sep 11th, 2016 - 02:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.

    Sep 11th, 2016 - 04:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    48

    Are you T Hill ?

    Sep 11th, 2016 - 05:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    I wonder which side of the fence hepatitis will be on if “The Donald’ lands?

    Sep 11th, 2016 - 05:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    A lot of daft Twaddle - from Malcorra and rather dim poorly educated newspaper reporters.
    FACTS:
    No direct commercial flights have EVER existed anyway. Just some Arg Air Force backed ones pre 1982. So nothing to “renew”.

    For AA to start flights to Falklands it would have to -itself- open contacts and discussions with the Dept of Civil Aviation of the Falkland Islands Govt(not London) who regulael civil aviation in around and in and out of the Island
    OOPS - Falkland Govt does not exist in Argentine beliefs does it!!! And if AA does open negotiations that is a recognition that FIG does exist - bang out the window goes that part of Argentine Govt beliefs and policy!

    AA and whoever will also have to open direct negotiations with the British Royal Air Force and MOD in Falklands to satisfy them that its aircraft are fully compliant with current UK and European Safety Laws and Training and maintenance etc etc and properly public liability insured etc etc.

    Zero Freight could be put aboard in Argentina for delivery to the Falklands without the normal standard International Approved Customs and dept of Ag formal certifications.
    No how can any Arg Govt dept do that when they say weDither do not exist - or if we do, we are part of Argentina anyway?
    If they did- BANG- Sov claim out the window as they are thus officially recognising we are indeed a FOREIGN Country!

    We of course know simple logic says- if an Arg airline did start flights - it would immediately drop fare prices to silly levels- so Lan would loose money as few passengers on it - and then naturally pull out - thus leaving we Islanders once again 100% under Arg Control for our International Communications!!

    Does Malcorra think we are THAT Stupid???? Lady we experienced your country ordering us about once before We sorted that in June 1982!

    Sep 11th, 2016 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @51 Islander1,
    Very well said Islander.
    She can just get lost.

    Sep 11th, 2016 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (51) islander1
    Just for your kind info...: IATA codes...:
    AA = American Airlines
    AR = Aerolineas Argentinas

    Sep 11th, 2016 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    53 Think
    Thankyou for that, stand corrected - I should have realised it myself having flown AA once!

    Sep 11th, 2016 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    Think is pettifogging.

    Given the context of our discussions, since when are we referring tomAmerican Airlines?
    AA quite obviously means Argie Aerolineas.

    Since when did we as the civilian customer base rigidly adhere to
    IATA airline industry codes in general conversation?

    Self-important twit, Mr Think

    Sep 11th, 2016 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    The Falkland are British,
    And Argentina is Spanish,

    The Falkland's Freely wish to remain free and British,

    The argentines are in denial, they are Spanish and wish to live in the past of land stealing and empires,

    Some say the real reason is the Antarctic treaties,
    and knowing sooner or later they will come to an end, and Argentina knows full well that the only country that stands in there way of a future Antarctic Empire and land grabbing is,
    Great Britain,

    I could be wrong, but argy greed and indoctrination makes this unlikely,
    unless they know something we don't.

    Sep 11th, 2016 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    You are exactly right.
    Whether the Argentines respect the EEZ of the Falklands or other S. Atlantic islands or not, any way, they would certainly want to deny the British a base and a staging area close to the Antarctic.

    Sep 11th, 2016 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Malcorra said she was looking for confidence-building measures between the UK and Argentina,

    And once again ignores and insults the islanders,
    they refuse point blank to recognise or accept the existence of the islanders,

    But when she and her cohorts realise the carrot is not working, you will see the bad sad side Argentina again, just watch.

    Sep 11th, 2016 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    To be fair, the rhetoric from this Argy Gov is far more palatable than the last.

    We have yet to see if it goes anywhere, and whilst it is far from perfect, it is an improvement in the general situation.

    So far, so good.

    Sep 12th, 2016 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @49 Kanye
    If the silly remark in # 48 had been “you haven't shown your burden of proof”, or, “I have proved that that you are an unrepentant liar, or even ”No you didn't, otherwise you would present a link to this so-called mythical research”, the answer would be 'yes'.

    Sep 12th, 2016 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Hepatia,
    you have been working so hard this year,
    what with the English and all that, you need a break,
    a holiday perhaps,

    The Sun is a nice place this time of year,
    great place for a sun tan...lol

    Sep 12th, 2016 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    Mr Bauer,

    Mr Hill is losing his patience with us “scholarly types”( another one of his tired high-falutin' expressions).

    On one thread he is denouncing my sarcasm as “personal
    Attacks”.

    On the other, he is firing off bursts of nasty names in my direction.

    What a hypocrite.

    Sep 12th, 2016 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @62 Kanye
    It's the typical defence of a socialist dickhead. When accused, socialists always and immediately accuse the accuser of the exact same thing. It's the tactic of diversion. If they don't get away with that, they resort to trying to undermine the accusers credibility. They don't like to, and never, face the real issue head on....it is the “political correctness” coming in to play....just a convenient way to hide the 'nasty' truth.
    When Dilma's defence saw that they would not be able to throw out the acccusations against her, they resorted to attack the way the process was being conducted - despite the fact that before the proceedings began, at their request - the rules governing the impeachment process were totally overseen by the Supreme Court and approved to their liking. Even the Supreme Court Justice who presided over the Senate sessions is a 'petista', but when they realized they were losing that battle as well, they went beserk.
    Hillyboy can quote all the definitions and quotes he wants, but he entirely ignores the real world. He sees everything through the rosy-lenses of the socialists, to whom democracy is working at its best when events favour them....anything they don't like, is anti-democratic. But I suppose it all boils down to their's and Hill's “definition” of democracy....
    Now be prepared for an onslaught of definitions from Hill's hundreds of different dictionaries...
    In a way, I feel sorry for him......such a despicable character, with no friends or family.

    Sep 13th, 2016 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    Probably lonely.

    Sep 14th, 2016 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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