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Falklands military exercises: Governor Bertone condemns “UK's bad faith”
Argentine Tierra del Fuego governor Rosana Bertone joined the group of protestors condemning the military exercises, including launching of Rapier missiles, announced by British forces stationed in the Falkland Islands, and accused London of acting in “bad faith” just a few days after releasing a joint statement with Argentina to improve relations. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesGovernor ..... who?
Oct 18th, 2016 - 08:22 am - Link - Report abuse +9And who cares?
'legitimately belongs to Argentina.'....In her humble opinion, obviously.
Oct 18th, 2016 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse +8I would beg to differ, just ask the Islanders.
I shall never buy her pasta sauce again
Oct 18th, 2016 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse +11said Bertone, who under the Argentine constitution is the governor of Tierra del Fuego, Antarctica and South Atlantic Islands (including the Falklands).
Oct 18th, 2016 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse +8Supposedly inherited all of this territory from Spain under uti possidetis juris. That's Argentinean UPJ not the customary law of UPJ.
Inheritance From Spain – Uti Possidetis Juris
The concept that Argentina had inherited the Falkland Islands from Spain is false. The law of the time did not accept inheritance without settlement and stated that 'an unopposed settlement of some years was necessary” before sovereignty was accepted. (The Law of Nations, Vattel, Cpt XI, p337) Vernet had sought acquiescence from the British consul in BUENOS AIRES on two occasions before establishing “his” colonies and the British protested when he was appointed military and political governor by the BA. Authorities. Jewett had no settlement. The concept of uti possidetis juris (inheritance of Spain) is only customary international law, applicable to those who choose to use it. Great Britain, France and Brazil have never opted to use uti possidetis juris and UPJ has “never” be used in “any” court or tribunal without the consent of both parties.
There is ample evidence that this has been the mode of applying / not applying UPJ over the past 150 years:
https://www.academia.edu/28967823/Falklands_Uti_Possidetis_Juris
Bertone - Boo!
But… the British Empire no longer exists? They found out about our Military Exercises, but they fail to understand that it disappeared half a Century ago?
Oct 18th, 2016 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse +7Perhaps we should issue a protest about the Liberturd sailing about and invading Merseyside?
So what does Bertone think of the intimidating actions of the Argentine Armada going around firing Exocets seven months ago? Is this legal according to Bertone?
Oct 18th, 2016 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse +6Shouldn't we not throw stones if we have glass in our own house?
Are the Bertones the owners of the law and the only ones to be able to define what is and what isn't legal?
Is it “legal” for a “Bertone” to be in South America in the first place? And speaking Spanish .. it is like Europe in somebody else's land.
http://www.janes.com/article/58226/argentine-navy-tests-locally-upgraded-mm38-missiles
stupid woman- she would not know what one was if it hit her up the ****. Lady UK forces have been doing this exercise in October annually for many years - that is EVERY Year in October - or is that to complicated for your brain power?
Oct 18th, 2016 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse +8How can she be the governor of something not in Argentina's possession?
Oct 18th, 2016 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +7UBP.....Apparently in Argentina, you can be anything you like....hence the amount of psychologists.
Oct 18th, 2016 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +7'legitimately belongs to Argentina.'....???
Oct 18th, 2016 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +8Patagonia legitimately belongs to my people not the genocide Spanish squatters! Go home to Cadiz!
Who?
Oct 18th, 2016 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse +7Never heard of them.
Governor Bertone WHO.
Oct 18th, 2016 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +6I'm sure she won't be able to sleep at night what with those nasty Brits firing missiles (max range about 10Km) whilst she is practically living next door and her being governor and all.
Oct 18th, 2016 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +6Must be terrible for her not to mention all those other 40,000,000 terrified Argentines screaming “why doesn't the world do something the British Empire is up and running again just when we thought it was dead”.
To quote the late Frankie Howard “Woe, woe and thrice woe”
Will they still be whining when the exercises are all over and done with? Very probably (and I won't give two hoots then either)
Oct 18th, 2016 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +5“after releasing a joint statement with Argentina to improve relations.”
Oct 18th, 2016 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +6You mean the statement that was so warmly received, in good faith, by the Argy congress????
As for “dialog”, about what? The only thing both parties agree upon is that “Sovereignty is non-negotiable”.
Nah, sorry luv, you put your faith in the Malvinas myth if you wish, we will put ours in good men and missile systems.
WHOOOOOOSSSSSSSHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
In 1833 the territory now known as Tierra del Fuego had not been incorporated into what is now know as the Republic of Argentina. It was sparsely populated by indigenous peoples who later in the nineteenth century become victims of genocide committed by the expanding European colonising immigrants arriving mainly from Italy and Spain.
Oct 18th, 2016 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +8Therefore, with what logic can Rosana Bertone claim to be ”the governor of Tierra del Fuego, Antarctica and South Atlantic Islands (INCLUDING THE FALKLAND ISLANDS)?
Argentina: STILL making us laugh.
Oct 18th, 2016 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +5Isn't she some relation to TMBOA?
From 'Janes' above..
Oct 19th, 2016 - 03:44 am - Link - Report abuse +5Six MM38s were launched against the target with at least two making impact, one exploding early in flight (while transitioning from the booster stage to the solid propellant stage), and three missing the target. The mission ******sank the target ship sooner than expected,***** and thus prevented planned testing of a locally upgraded SST-4 heavyweight anti-surface torpedo from San Juan .'
Sank the target ship sooner than expected?????? lucky they got the target out of the harbour before it sank of its own accord RG ships being what they are.....
Our land, señora, we'll do what we please & its got jackshit to do with you.
Oct 19th, 2016 - 04:33 am - Link - Report abuse +7OR:- Suck it up Baby.
The website of the Gobernación de Tierra del Fuego shows a map of the South Atlantic with the name of the Falkland Islands and other British Territories in ENGLISH and, in brackets, in Spanish. How odd!
Oct 19th, 2016 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +3lsolde
Oct 19th, 2016 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Good on you,
your islands and nothing to do with Argentina.
Says a lady in an area populated generally by the British before before the yawning senors woke up from their siestas and moved south.
Oct 20th, 2016 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +4England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
Oct 21st, 2016 - 01:28 am - Link - Report abuse -4Poor old Hepatia. Again with the old “England will return the Malvinas within 25 years” BS.
Oct 21st, 2016 - 07:07 am - Link - Report abuse +3#1 Yes, we have no Malvinas...
#2 England doesn't have the wherewithal to return the FALKLANDS (please learn the difference between “England” and “The United Kingdom of Great Britain”
#3 The United Kingdom of Great Britain won't be returning the Falklands to Argentina without the express wishes and permission of the Falkland Islanders
#4 It ain't going to happen
Hepatia
Oct 21st, 2016 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse +2I have heard on the grape vine that you are in line for the next Nobel peace prize
for the best none existent imagination yet...
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