Argentine president Mauricio Macri and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau took direct aim on Thursday at the walls of protectionism set to be erected around the United States, saying that freer trade is the best way to pull their countries out of economic uncertainty. The two leaders said there is real anxiety that progress and global trade have resulted in people being left behind or children being robbed of the same opportunities afforded their parents and grandparents. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThe,world may in fact be coming to an end. A liberal PM from already leftminded Canada, and a president from protectionist and isolationist Argentina talking about trade, international exchange, and mutual partnership, all while in the USUK the population is teeming with xenophobic acts, want to tear trade deals, erect tariffs, build walls, seal tunnnels, and withdraw from the world. And both US and UK also with populist governments that really have proven have no long term strategy, or even a short-term clue of what the heck they should do (UK brexit, UScpresidential transition and policy).
Nov 18th, 2016 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse -4How things have changed!
No word of Canada supporting Argentine colonial ambitions in the Falkland Islands. Wonder what happened there then ?
Nov 18th, 2016 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Heck even the anti-malvinistas who always accused malvinistas, and Argentina, with being so monotonous with their topics, are now the ones that bring up the Falklands in every unrelated thread!
Nov 18th, 2016 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse -4So... does all this free trade stuff mean that Argentina will stop harassing the Falkland Islanders. I doubt it.
Nov 18th, 2016 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +2You boys getting nervous?
Nov 18th, 2016 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse -10Good.
We need a more clear definition of the Canadian relationship with the new trade agreement with Europe and the Malvinas. What side will Canada play, British, French or Hemispheric Argentine Spanish.
Nov 18th, 2016 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's fine for Big Countries with Small populations to whinge about anti-immigration movements...
Nov 18th, 2016 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse -6Canada has no free trade agreements with the UK...so they are really panicking about the US...no need to mention the UK at all...
The US has always carried Canada..it would be third world without the US....
@ Voice
Nov 18th, 2016 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Canada will soon have free trade with the UK, but only for the next two years.
The US has always carried Canada..it would be third world without the US
What, like Australia and NZ are 3rd world?
DemonTree
Nov 18th, 2016 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse -6Everyone knows Aus and NZ were carried by the UK for generations...virtually all investment came from the UK...
...I don't have much need for maple syrup, what else they got..huh...
Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer, and imitator extraordinaire
Nov 18th, 2016 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse +3The US has always carried Canada..Everyone knows Aus and NZ were carried by the UK for generations… You'r great at sweeping generalizations, but you are more than a little shy of any specifics. Also, woefully amiss when it comes to UK colonial economic practises.
What are you saying Terry...that the US has/is not carrying Canada...?
Nov 18th, 2016 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -4Or how Britain carried NZ and Aus for generations...?
You have a short memory...old man...
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As the British Common Market entry negotiations show signs of reaching a decision, to join or not to join, one problem remains the most intractable--the economic dependence of New Zealand on Great Britain.
The chief British negotiator in Brussels. Mr. Geoffrey Rippon, has recognised the need for a European guarantee that New Zealand can continue exporting her lamb, cheese and butter to Britain for a period at least long enough to enable her to find an alternative market. Last year, these three items made up about a quarter of New Zealand's total exports, and around 90 per cent in each case went to Britain.
Hey Terry why put your Facebook image on your Merco profile....or Elvis...;-)
@ Voice
Nov 19th, 2016 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse +5I don't have much need for maple syrup, what else they got
Oil, vehicles, machinery, gems & precious metals, electronic equipment, plastics, aircraft & spacecraft, wood, aluminium, paper. The UK is Canada's 3rd largest export parter so they must have something we want.
Aus and NZ are certainly not carried by the UK now, and they seem to be doing okay. 'Carried' is really the wrong way to describe it anyway; trade is profitable for both parties, and investment isn't charity - investors expect to make money.
Canada is very dependent on the US market currently - it's big and it's right next door - but that doesn't mean the US is subsidising Canada in some way, or that it couldn't have found other trading partners if the US was not there.
Sooo....everything apart from gems the UK already has...
Nov 19th, 2016 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse -6So we're back to the maple syrup again...
I told you...I'm not interested...
Used to have a Blackberry till they became passé...
It's disinterest and lack of understanding on the part of the voters that has led to the current situation. According to your definition the UK is currently 'carried' by the EU, and won't be for much longer. Perhaps the UK and Canada will both be looking for new partners soon.
Nov 19th, 2016 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse +3A better word is dependent, not carried...Canada is dependent on the US...
Nov 19th, 2016 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse -6The UK is not dependent on the EU....
It's a buyers market and the UK buys more from the EU than it sells...
Not all was wine and rosas for president Macri.
Nov 19th, 2016 - 03:46 am - Link - Report abuse -3PM Justin Trudeau asked him about the 10-month detention of Milagro Sala, a political leader in the Jujuy province.
The United Nations Working Group on Arbitrary Detention has ruled that Milagro Sala's detention is illegal.
Trudeau mentioned to the media that he had discussed Sala's detention with Macri.
“We’ve talked about the importance of transparency and allowing for the rule of law, Trudeau said. I have absolute confidence that the issue will be treated responsibly, openly and that they will follow the rule of law, just as what happens in our country.”
Trudeau also visited The Parque de la Memoria, built for the some 30,000 victims of Argentina's military junta, which tortured and killed political opponents and those demanding democracy/
Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer, and imitator extraordinaire
Nov 19th, 2016 - 04:28 am - Link - Report abuse +3That the US has/is not carrying Canada..? Well, you're the one who is asserting that on one hand, the US as the larger economic entity, is somehow disadvantaged by the present arrangement. Perhaps, you could enlighten us as to whether it is the Auto Pact or perhaps NAFTA that has brought about this trade disparity. Perhaps, you could pass on this revelation to President Elect Drumpf's transition team.
Meanwhile, thanks as your avoidance of the subject past British colonial economic policies as it confirms you know not, of which you speak.
As for past trade agreements between the UK, Australia and New Zealand. I would assume that all the parties would have benefited from such an arrangement and thus, for filled the requirements of a legal contract. Both, of these countries have been masters of their own houses for a long time. They seem to be able to sustain themselves and prosper, unlike your favoured nation.
@ Voice
Nov 19th, 2016 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse +3Dependent is certainly an improvement, since 'carried' implies Canada is a burden on the US, which is not the case.
But doesn't this lead to the interesting conclusion that Germany is dependent on Greece, Spain, and Italy, since it sells more to those countries than it buys?
It's true the UK buys more from the EU than it sells, but the EU will be much less affected overall if that trade is reduced. So I'm not convinced it's really a buyer's market.
@ EM
Good for Trudeau.
Trudi/Macaroni - Dumb/Even Dumber
Nov 19th, 2016 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -7DT
Nov 20th, 2016 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +1There is a reason that Trudeau brought up Milagro Sala.
Canada has carried Mr. Enrique for too long.
Trudeau wants leverage over Macri to break the deadlock over re-patriating EM to Argentina.
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