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UK and US must drop failed military interventions “to remake the world in our image”
Prime Minister Theresa May has told US Republicans the UK and America cannot return to “failed” military interventions “to remake the world in our own image”. Suggesting a UK foreign policy shift, she said those days were over but added that the US and UK should not “stand idly by when the threat is real”. However the two countries must “renew the special relationship for this new age” and “lead together, again”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAbout 450 years and 100+ military interventions too late...
Jan 27th, 2017 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse -5Talk about being obtuse of mind.
UK and US must drop failed military interventions
Jan 27th, 2017 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Seems fair and sensible and a good idea,
the only problem I can see are the hawks ?
Fidel_CasTroll
About 450 years and 100+ military interventions too late...
450 years ago, was it not the Spanish doing all the conquering.?
Briton he is pulling a Trump and avoiding facts. Not to mentions 450 years ago, the new world was barely 75 years known.....and the USA had over 200 years to go in the making. Perhaps that is why he has a new name ....again.
Jan 27th, 2017 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Fidel Nostrils etc., would condemn the US/UK for reviewing its values, priorities, and strategies for the better, but at the same time he would criticize the U.K./US for not learning and moving with the times.
Jan 27th, 2017 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Either way, he is just a Troll, deflecting from the dysfunction of the isolationist, Bolivarian ideology of some SA politicians.
“UK must drop failed military interventions to remake the world in our image”...
Jan 27th, 2017 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Does that mean that we Argies get our Malvinas back...?
Complete with that South Atlantic spit image of a Little England town called Puerto Estanley...?
In a word......NO !
Jan 27th, 2017 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Why...?
Jan 27th, 2017 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because it didn't fail.
Jan 27th, 2017 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Also Stanley doesn't look much like an English town. There's something a bit Norwegian about it IMO.
Think, you have a nice little piece of England as Argentinian territory at 65 Brook Street. Very convenient for MacDonalds. Thats all you are ever going to get!
Jan 27th, 2017 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Quit whingeing and move on.
Mr. DemonTree...
Jan 27th, 2017 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You mean then that your leader's Chamberlainian sweet-talk about..:
“UK must drop failed military interventions to remake the world in our image”...
Is just Orwellian double-talk for...:
”UK must step-up successfull military interventions to remake the world in our image...”...?
@Think
Jan 27th, 2017 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +2I've got no more idea than you do what she really means.
But if by 'remake the world in our image', she means make it more democratic, richer, ensure that everyone has rights and freedoms and a chance to succeed in life... well, I wish it was possible.
Sugarsweet ;-)
Jan 27th, 2017 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I06KycZKxLQ
Lol. But I prefer this version:
Jan 27th, 2017 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWGZdYNpaSo
Demon tree
Jan 28th, 2017 - 03:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0“But if by 'remake the world in our image', she means make it more democratic, richer, ensure that everyone has rights and freedoms and a chance to succeed in life... well, I wish it was possible.”
Excellent sir!! Well done!
Think/voice,
Fuck off.
Think
Jan 28th, 2017 - 07:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0When will you finally show some maturity? Your silly remarks mean nothing - they don't even contribute to the Argentine cause!
Wasn't the whole of South America conquered by the Conquistador Spaniards. Wiped out the bulk of the Indians, the Incas, stole all the gold? All we did was send El Drako to pinch it on the way back to HQ.
Jan 28th, 2017 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Main Argy heritage is Spaniard. OTOH Britain civilised much of the world, introduced democracy, rule of law.
Think/Voice failed once again.
Wasn't the whole of South America conquered by the Conquistador Spaniards? x WRONG
Jan 28th, 2017 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 00 for 1 (Brazil portuguese, 1/2 of Argentina and Chile remained indian territory)
Wiped out the bulk of the indians? x WRONG
0 for 2 (diseases did)
Stole all the gold? x WRONG
0 for 3 (a lot, but can't say ALL)
All we did was send El Drako? x WRONG
0 for 4 (you sent many more, thieves yourselves accusing others of being thieves... TYPICAL ANGLO)
Main Argy heritage is Spaniard? x WRONG
0 for 5 (Italian)
OTOH Britain civilized much of the world, introduced democracy, rule of law. x WRONG
0 for 6 (you introduced disease, exploitation, usury, theft, religious intolerance, racial prejudice, invasive pests... that is all proven, but the others? Source??)
Think failed?
You just got wiped out in 6 - LOVE.
Take your fantasies about Britain somewhere else, the entire world does not believe you anylonger and thus you see how you are being treated by the EU, Russia, China, and most of Latin America.
Try to make the best of the 4 years with Trump... and buy plenty of mouth freshener!
I see you have at last got a pseudonym that suits you,,,,DEAD COW !
Jan 28th, 2017 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +1I see that you still use that meaningless mantra so fondly used by ARGIES....“the whole world”
Invasive pests----probably the correct term for Argentinian immigrants.
Apart from that there is no point in discussing Anything with a mind-dead Troll whose blind hatred interferes with any cognitive thought process.
Bye for now.
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@Kanye
Jan 28th, 2017 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +1I'm afraid it is hardly a controversial thing to say, though important to remember that some things are worth spreading even now we have recognised that it's wrong to try and force our culture on everyone.
Unfortunately the world seems to be getting worse, not better. The Arab Spring seemed so promising when it started, being a change from within, but it really hasn't worked out well. Yet another reason why the people who want to burn everything down and start again scare me. Revolutions so rarely work out as planned.
@Trollboy
I have to disagree with your last point.
If you think people of any kind, from any part of the world, can't invent exploitation, usury, theft, religious intolerance, and racial prejudice all by themselves, then you clearly don't know any people. And certainly diseases existed long before humans did. Invasive pests is surely true, but it's not like Britain is the only country to do that, deliberately or accidentally.
Nostrils, reading your list puts your ignorance of the Continent you falsely claim to inhabit displays the reason for your educational failure for all to see. As I said, stick to Lego. Do Italians speaka da Spanish - I dont think so… Why do so many SA countries languages closely resemble Spanish! Marks out of ten… ?
Jan 29th, 2017 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse -2@The Voice
Jan 29th, 2017 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse +1From Wikipedia:
”The Italian population in Argentina is the second largest in the world, by numbers, outside of Italy,[9] some 25 million people. Italians form a majority of the population of Argentina and neighbouring Uruguay as up to two-third have some Italian background; among the Latin American countries, only Brazil has more people of Italian descent (28 million, approximately 15 percent of Brazil's total population).”
Spanish folk speak Spanish. They may have Italian heritage ( great at retreating etc ) but by language and custom they are closer to Spanish
Jan 29th, 2017 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse -3So the Voice agrees with Argentine racial classifications, and Anglos are also by language and custom Anglos: Robert Mugabe (great at racial oppression) , Anglo, for example. Just like we see it in Argentina.
Jan 29th, 2017 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Think/voice troll and Nostril-troll
Jan 30th, 2017 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse -1”Spanish folk speak Spanish. They may have Italian heritage ( great at retreating etc ) but by language and custom they are closer to Spanish“
”Spanish folk“
What does that mean, people born in Spain?
Therefore, ”...they are closer to Spanish“?
Argentine folk too, ”...speak Spanish. They may have Italian heritage ( great at retreating etc ) but by language and custom they are closer to Spanish“ but they are actually Argentine.
Amusing that Think/voice defines who is Spanish, or British, using the same pseudo-science that Snr. Nostrils uses to define ”Anglos”.
Only when it's convenient to him of course.
We can expect that to change, depending on the occasion.
Um, Kanye, it was 'The Voice' who said that, not Voice. And I am pretty damn sure that THEY are not the same person.
Jan 30th, 2017 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Lead together!” The British need to know their place. They have never led anything. The fact is that the US leads and the UK follows. Long may it be so.
Feb 01st, 2017 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Hepatia
Feb 02nd, 2017 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0The US no longer wants to lead. Neither in Europe with NATO, nor in Asia with the TPP, nor even in your own continent where you plan to build a wall to hide behind. Other countries will not be slow to exploit the power vacuums you are leaving behind.
H
Feb 02nd, 2017 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WW2 ? Britain led for two years while the USA made a pile of money from us.
WW1 ? The USA sat on the fence while the UK and France took ALL the casualties
I presume your “education” -(pardon the oxymoron) - is a product of Hollywood's version of the world's history.
Now you have Trump to lead you to Armagedon !
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Feb 02nd, 2017 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No Clyde, you fought for two years as the GOP did everything in their power to avoid the war and capitalize on it.
Feb 02nd, 2017 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr. Clyde15...
Feb 02nd, 2017 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- Your “education”, on the other hand..., seems to be a product of Pinewood's version of the world's history...
As I remember the Great Patriotic War (Zweiter Weltkrieg)..., Britain sad on the fence for ~three years while the USA made a pile of money from them and Mother Russia took almost ALL the casualties (~40 millions)...
Educate yourself better.
“Our image?” The UK is a theocratic monarchy. The US is the opposite. There is no “our image.” There is only the US image.
Feb 02nd, 2017 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse -2If the US is not a theocracy, why do you have so many religious loonies?
Feb 02nd, 2017 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Also why do you have a national prayer breakfast hosted by your president? Seems odd for a country with no official religion.
Think
Feb 02nd, 2017 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Your “memory” indicates either the onset of Alzheimer's disease OR the failure of your Argentine education system which also teaches the Great Malvinas myth.
As for the “Great Patriotic War”, the Soviets did a deal with Germany and tried to grab Finland. It then rebouded in their face ! Yes, they took the bulk of the casualties and wore down the Wermacht.
However, we did have little sideshows going on at sea, including suicide convoys to Archangel supplying the Soviets with materials, carrying the air war to Germany and some little sidelines in N.Africa. At the same time we had the Japanese to contend with.
I find the expression“the Great Patriotic War” a bit of a joke .
To say Britain did nothing is palpable crap, but is not unexpected from someone of your persuasion.
As for WW1, Russia packed it in in October 1917 leaving the UK and associated colonies, France and the USA as the remaining protagonists.
http://en.mercopress.com/2017/01/27/uk-and-us-must-drop-failed-military-interventions-to-remake-the-world-in-our-image/comments#comment460696: The reason that there are so many “religious loonies”, as you anti-American Brits call them, in the US is because the US has religious freedom.
Feb 04th, 2017 - 04:56 am - Link - Report abuse -1There is no such thing as a national prayer breakfast hosted by the US president. Where did you get that idea.
Also, there are no church bishops appointed to the US Congress. Similarly, the president of the US is not the head priest of the official state religion. In the UK the converse is true.
Hepatia/ Axel/ Nostrils etc.
Feb 04th, 2017 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0American “Prayer Breakfast”
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/515445/
And the UK Prime Minister leading the government, is NOT head of the Church of England.
Queen Elizabeth II is the Supreme Governor.
You are not American nor British so you cannot be expected to know these things.
It's a bit like the fake Scotsman, Think/voice/Cmdr. DOD not knowing about the Krays vs “Crays”, “irregardless”...
“If the US is not a theocracy, why do you have so many religious loonies?”
Feb 04th, 2017 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +1DT is that a serious question or rhetorical, because I would assume you know that answer, which essentially is embedded in this simple phrase:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”
When you start tweaking anything on that first one, it becomes a slippery slope. How those 10 are interpreted, well therein is the cause of all the political fighting. While those who profess that the 1st and 2nd can NEVER be infringed upon while looking at the left, as quickly as they turn to the right, they have absolutely no compunction to burn the 4th,5th,6th and 8th.......all in the name of public safety. If anyone can reconcile and understand that logic, please, share it with me.
@Captain Poppy
Feb 04th, 2017 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse +1I wasn't being very serious when I asked it, but I would like to know why people in the US are so much more religious than in the UK or most of Europe. And also why many of them are 'fundamentalists' who believe in creationism and similar things.
I admire America's legal commitment to freedom of religion (and speech). But in practice we see people fighting to pass laws based on what their religious leaders tell them, and presidential candidates talking about how important god is to them. Do you think an honest atheist could be elected president in the US?
England (not the whole UK), does have an official state religion, but we are allowed to follow whatever religion we like, and most people are not very religious anyway. Our politicians don't usually talk about it much either.
I understand and I would love to understand that as well. However, bear in mind that they are people of faith and religious thumpers. The latter are the worst and generally hypocrites. These types tend to be from south of the Mason-Dixon line. They process to word of Jesus and hate everyone, gays, liberals.....I cannot figure them out. They give birth to organizations like the “MegaChurch” and many other religious pulpits. And, they give them unlimited amounts of money with their preachers personally being multi millionaires. Then this gives way for Newts “Contract with America” and the GOP wrapping the religion around their party. They are the party of family values......yet, many closets gays, multi divorces, etc etc.
Feb 05th, 2017 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +1No, I have not fucking clue about these religious nuts and why their are so many in the USA. All I know is that the GOP wants to become the Christian version of the Taliban. As long as they toss the bible thumpers 2nd amendment serenades, fear of immigrants, lies about entitlements, they get elected.
Trump is quickly learns that we are indeed a nation of laws and that POTUS is no all ruling.
DT,
Feb 05th, 2017 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Try reading this, it might be illuminating:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_to_a_Christian_Nation
Creationism - well there is a good start for dismissing real science whenever it becomes inconvenient or contradicts what they want to say - small jump to denying human rights to others or taking social responsibility for Global Warming.
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