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Theresa May stays on but with a shaky coalition: Ulster Unionists and Scottish Tories
Theresa May is expected to finalize her team of ministers later as she seeks to form a government with the support of the Democratic Unionist Party. Ministers say initial talks have begun with Northern Ireland's DUP after the Conservatives failed to secure a majority in Thursday's election. The Tories needed 326 seats to win but fell short by eight. The DUP won 10. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesShaky deals to keep a worn-out May in power, while the media keeps ignoring Corbyn and his electors, a rising force and a hope for the future.
Jun 10th, 2017 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse +1Quotes of the week about May, and the UK in general:
Jun 10th, 2017 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse +1“and I thought Surrealism was a Belgian invention.”
“The British just can't seem to find the telephone box out of their alternate universe.”
Corbyn led a losing campaign with 56 seats less and a lower percentage of votes than May. How is this a victory? By this paradigm the Remainers won the referendum.
Jun 10th, 2017 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse -1May ran a disastrous campaign and Corbyn couldn't beat her. He tempted the young vote with sweeties but no guarantees because he never had a costed manifesto. What actually happened is that we go into Brexit negotiations with a much weaker hand.
I am reading here and in other places comments like the UK should double down on Brexit, make more demands, and just completely making ridiculous statements far removed from the actual reality. They even claim this was a normal election... likevas if no one can tell it was May's political greed election.
Jun 10th, 2017 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Seriously, what is in the water over there? It is not a hyperbolic question from Mr. Troll, it is genuine. Because the whole world is just about saying the same thing. Scratching their heads as your country shoots one foot first then the other, scores another own goal, keep digging the hole on the Thames... among other quotes going around.
@TTT
Jun 10th, 2017 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Pretty much how we looked at Argentina under the Kirchners. You are right, we are a mess of division whipped up by nastiness when it comes to politics. The U.S. led the way with gutter campaigning and we seem to have followed.
All that said, this country is still infinitely richer than Argentina so you shouldn't feel too smug. Life is good here and if you ever left the bosom of your mother and travelled here you would see it. You cannot believe everything you read online.
@AustrOllOpithecus
Jun 10th, 2017 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Assuming your question is genuine, there is no big mystery. When May called the election her party was 25 points ahead of the opposition, it seemed a safe enough gamble. She thought she could get a mandate from the voters and increase her majority which would give her more power to force through decisions despite disagreement in her own party.
But she overestimated her own appeal and - like everyone else - severely underestimated Corbyn. She also forgot that Brexit passed by a narrow margin so there is an extremely large group of people opposed to her posturing and plans for a hard Brexit, who took the opportunity to try to vote her out.
A hung parliament is in some ways the worst possible result, the exact opposite of the strong and stable government she kept promising. But no one votes for a hung parliament; the country didn't shoot itself in the foot, May has shot herself in the head.
The question is why is this piece appearing in Mercopenguin, a propaganda organ supposedly devoted to America, South America and the “South Atlantic”?
Jun 11th, 2017 - 03:07 am - Link - Report abuse -5Hepatitis, you keep repeating nonsense about 25 years ad infinitum which doesn't make sense. Are you blind too?
Jun 11th, 2017 - 03:24 am - Link - Report abuse +2Because we get tired of putting down serial idiots like you it's boring... and we have a need to focus on something interesting and important.
@DTree
Jun 13th, 2017 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse +3You say that “like everyone else - severely underestimated Corbyn”
Not everyone underestimated him.
Back in 2015 when he won the leadership of the Labour party, I posted this:
“
Iraq war: he opposed it from the start. With hindsight, much of the electorate might appreciate that.
IRA: he proposed dialogue from the start. In retrospect this is what happened in the end.
Expense scandal: No fraudulent claims submitted. You have to respect that.
EU: He is happy to leave - that is a big one for the UK electorate isn't it?
University fees: how many graduates here had to pay for their university degrees? This might resonate with many.
He seems to be an honest man with integrity. Is that his biggest problem?
”
http://en.mercopress.com/2015/09/15/jeremy-corbyn-and-the-falkland-islands/comments#comment414229
As an outsider his appeal to the electorate seemed obvious to me.
Considering he fought the campaign against the headwinds of hostile mainstream press and the continual sabotage from his own parliamentarians, his gains are impressive. [In modern times has any electoral campaign been successful without the backing of the Sun?]
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Regardless of where you stand on the politics, it is always good for democracy when the young become more engaged.
@Condorito
Jun 13th, 2017 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0You're right, you must be one of the few who didn't; even his own MPs were trying to get rid of him after the referendum.
I agree it's good for the young to be more engaged, for so long we have had little real difference between the parties, and they haven't even tried to offer young people anything.
People like ElaineB love to say that British people would never vote for his policies, but the fact is the status quo is not working for most people and hasn't for a long time now, so perhaps we are ready to try something different. We have seen outsiders making gains in the US and across Europe, the UK is no different.
Condorito
Jun 13th, 2017 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse -3You the man...but
What is this all about huh...huh...?
http://en.mercopress.com/2016/04/27/paul-singer-praises-macri-but-warns-about-negative-impact-from-collective-action-clauses/comments#comment438977
Voice
Jun 13th, 2017 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Someone copied my handsome face it seems.
Understandable enough.
Understandable that you posed as Yankeeboy more like...
Jun 13th, 2017 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -4I'll have to keep an eye on you...;-)
Wonderful. I count at least 4 separate accounts posting as Condorito, one of them also as Yankeeboy. I wonder who else he has been imitating?
Jun 13th, 2017 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Demon Tree : All are irrelevant
Jun 14th, 2017 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0DTree
Jun 14th, 2017 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Only one Condorito, many impersonators.
Voice
The Condor flies high.
In the UK students are permitted to register to vote in their home constituencies and also in the constituency of places of study. However, subject to a punitive fine, they are NOT permitted to vote in a general election in both locations.
Jun 14th, 2017 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0I live in a university city where the Conservative incumbent lost her seat by a 1,500 margin to Labour. It would not surprise me to learn that this was due to students abusing the system.
AustrO
Jun 14th, 2017 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Quote of the week, “ winning is losing ” by Jeremy Corbyn
@gordo1
Jun 14th, 2017 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah, I see Nigel Farage has been throwing that accusation around. Is there any evidence whatsoever? That age group has a very low turnout in general so there is plenty of room to increase it just by getting non-voters out.
Also it is term time right now, so perhaps not surprising more students would choose to vote in your city, no?
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