A key Brazilian lawmaker argued Monday that President Michel Temer should be suspended from office and put on trial in the country's highest court on a corruption charge. Read full article
Sad reality that all but reveals the strategy of Latin America's ultra wealthy minorities to keep the power in their hands--by accusing progressive governments of corruption while themselves are, end have been through our entire history, specialists in corruption.
The scheme did not work quite so well in Brazil and the tables were turned on the supposedly white knights. However, Temer will probably be allowed to pass sweeping legislation reducing workers' rights before being dumped into history's garbage can.
@EM
How much do you really know about Brazil? It seems to me you are assuming it is just the same as Argentina. In Brazil politicians from many parties were accused right from the beginning, and Rousseff, head of the progressive government, could have done a lot to stifle the Lava Jato investigation, but didn't - probably because she knew corruption really was a serious problem and wanted it brought to light.
Her impeachment didn't have anything to do with the other corruption investigations, either. If some people are taking advantage of the investigations to go after her and Lula, that certainly isn't the whole story. Politicians from other parties have already been jailed, as have many of the executives who offered the bribes.
Which parts of Temer's legislation do you object to, specifically? After reading up on his pension reforms I have to say that most of them seem quite necessary and reasonable.
@Reekie
However, Temer will probably be allowed to pass sweeping legislation reducing workers' rights before being dumped into history's garbage can.
Spoken like an expert....who knows F-all about Brazil....Reekie, you lost a good chance to keep your mouth shut.
@DT
Don't hold your breath, Reekie won't reply. Anyone who is familiar with the current system, knows damned well that there were several important aspects that needed updating....now they have been. All that's missing now, is the overhaul of the pension system and of the political structure.
I was hoping EM would reply, he usually does when it's about Argentina, but I guess he's just not as interested in Brazil. Not surprising really.
Looks like the legislation on workers has passed anyway. If the congress does vote to suspend Temer, do you think Rodrigo Maia will continue the reforms?
REF: Do you think Rodrigo Maia will continue the reforms?:
Maia & Temer are in the same boat [temporary; to say the least] but unlike Temer; Maia may turn where the wind blows; to safeguard his political future.
@DT
While experience shows that 90% of Congressional members usually vote in accordance with their personal interests, I think that if Maia eventually has to substitute Temer, he will....he, and most politicians know that the social security system is one of the biggest obstacles to balancing the Federal budget.
Only exception, for sure, will be the PT, PC do B and allies (made up of tiny 'parties for hire') who'll vote against every attempt to improve Brazil...as they have already publicly announced.
@JB
Only trouble is that the reforms are unpopular and an election is coming up. Temer already said he wouldn't stand again so perhaps he thinks he has nothing to lose, is that true of Maia? Voting for the reforms is one thing but championing them might be another.
@DT
I think that if Maia subsututes Temer, he will feel obligated to carry out the reforms....'cause besides losing the chance to get Brazil back on track, he might be labelled a turncoat by his party and those who see the reforms as essential. Which, IMO, could be worse for him than taking the risk.
As to his popularity suffering as result of this, we must remember that the ones who are against the reforms, besides the commie politicians, are the union leaders and their collaborators, and now with the labour reform approved, they will lose most of their funding, which means they won't have money to pay off ignorant people to do their dirty work.
@:o))
Your link is a good image of what Lula ignored when he prioritized the World Cup and the Olympic Games over the well-being of the people....when various social entities complained that many other things - such as the construction of hospitals - were far higher on the priority list than soccer, he criticized them, saying their way of thinking was what held Brazil back...well, we've all seen what happened during the preparations for the World Cup and the Games : enormous corruption concerning the reform of existing stadiums/ construction of new ones (now regarded as white elephants, due to extreme sub-utilization), and the public health system in a complete shambles, such as we've never seen before. Lula thought that football would fill the Brazilians' bellies and keep them healthy. Typical of the populist SOB...
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI wonder if this lawmaker will be found having committed suicide like the one in Argentina a few years ago.
Jul 11th, 2017 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0APPARENT: Brazil's attorney general has accused Temer of accepting bribes
Jul 11th, 2017 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0NOT SO APPARENT:
https://www.humorpolitico.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Java-Jato-morrendo-580x368.jpg
Sad reality that all but reveals the strategy of Latin America's ultra wealthy minorities to keep the power in their hands--by accusing progressive governments of corruption while themselves are, end have been through our entire history, specialists in corruption.
Jul 12th, 2017 - 02:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0The scheme did not work quite so well in Brazil and the tables were turned on the supposedly white knights. However, Temer will probably be allowed to pass sweeping legislation reducing workers' rights before being dumped into history's garbage can.
@EM
Jul 12th, 2017 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0How much do you really know about Brazil? It seems to me you are assuming it is just the same as Argentina. In Brazil politicians from many parties were accused right from the beginning, and Rousseff, head of the progressive government, could have done a lot to stifle the Lava Jato investigation, but didn't - probably because she knew corruption really was a serious problem and wanted it brought to light.
Her impeachment didn't have anything to do with the other corruption investigations, either. If some people are taking advantage of the investigations to go after her and Lula, that certainly isn't the whole story. Politicians from other parties have already been jailed, as have many of the executives who offered the bribes.
Which parts of Temer's legislation do you object to, specifically? After reading up on his pension reforms I have to say that most of them seem quite necessary and reasonable.
@Reekie
Jul 12th, 2017 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, Temer will probably be allowed to pass sweeping legislation reducing workers' rights before being dumped into history's garbage can.
Spoken like an expert....who knows F-all about Brazil....Reekie, you lost a good chance to keep your mouth shut.
@DT
Don't hold your breath, Reekie won't reply. Anyone who is familiar with the current system, knows damned well that there were several important aspects that needed updating....now they have been. All that's missing now, is the overhaul of the pension system and of the political structure.
I was hoping EM would reply, he usually does when it's about Argentina, but I guess he's just not as interested in Brazil. Not surprising really.
Jul 13th, 2017 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Looks like the legislation on workers has passed anyway. If the congress does vote to suspend Temer, do you think Rodrigo Maia will continue the reforms?
REF: Do you think Rodrigo Maia will continue the reforms?:
Jul 13th, 2017 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maia & Temer are in the same boat [temporary; to say the least] but unlike Temer; Maia may turn where the wind blows; to safeguard his political future.
@DT
Jul 13th, 2017 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0While experience shows that 90% of Congressional members usually vote in accordance with their personal interests, I think that if Maia eventually has to substitute Temer, he will....he, and most politicians know that the social security system is one of the biggest obstacles to balancing the Federal budget.
Only exception, for sure, will be the PT, PC do B and allies (made up of tiny 'parties for hire') who'll vote against every attempt to improve Brazil...as they have already publicly announced.
@JB
Jul 14th, 2017 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Only trouble is that the reforms are unpopular and an election is coming up. Temer already said he wouldn't stand again so perhaps he thinks he has nothing to lose, is that true of Maia? Voting for the reforms is one thing but championing them might be another.
“Sufficient evidence”?
Jul 14th, 2017 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0S0 WHAT?
Will he be arrested?
How luxurious will be his 5star Cell?
Or will it be a House Arrest?
Won't he receive his guests; any time of the Day/Night?
Won't he be free; just in a few days after the arrest?
Won't he enjoy his “special” privileges & “SALARIES”?
Will he be a whistleblower and blame the others?
Will he return the loot gathered throughout his “career”?
Behind the bars or not; won't he be politically active?
@DT
Jul 16th, 2017 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think that if Maia subsututes Temer, he will feel obligated to carry out the reforms....'cause besides losing the chance to get Brazil back on track, he might be labelled a turncoat by his party and those who see the reforms as essential. Which, IMO, could be worse for him than taking the risk.
As to his popularity suffering as result of this, we must remember that the ones who are against the reforms, besides the commie politicians, are the union leaders and their collaborators, and now with the labour reform approved, they will lose most of their funding, which means they won't have money to pay off ignorant people to do their dirty work.
While looking for Sufficient Evidence: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/jul/19/people-getting-poorer-hunger-homelessness-brazil-crisis?CMP=twt_gu
Jul 19th, 2017 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@:o))
Jul 19th, 2017 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your link is a good image of what Lula ignored when he prioritized the World Cup and the Olympic Games over the well-being of the people....when various social entities complained that many other things - such as the construction of hospitals - were far higher on the priority list than soccer, he criticized them, saying their way of thinking was what held Brazil back...well, we've all seen what happened during the preparations for the World Cup and the Games : enormous corruption concerning the reform of existing stadiums/ construction of new ones (now regarded as white elephants, due to extreme sub-utilization), and the public health system in a complete shambles, such as we've never seen before. Lula thought that football would fill the Brazilians' bellies and keep them healthy. Typical of the populist SOB...
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