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Falklands' war Peruvian air force Mirage on exhibition in Cordoba
One of the ten fighter bombers donated by Peru to Argentina during the 1982 South Atlantic conflict is being exhibited in the Velez Sarsfield Plaza, at the heart of Cordoba City, as part of the 105 anniversary celebrations of the Argentine Air Force. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesHow did it escape being mauled by the Sea Harriers.
Aug 25th, 2017 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Clyde
Aug 25th, 2017 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +2According to Santiago Rivas the Mirages didn't actually arrive at Tandil until 4/5 June. However Argentina declined Peruvian air/ground crews and the aircraft were also missing important details like appropriate comms equipment and therefore were not available for combat operations and were returned to Peru after the Argentine surrender never having been used for anything other than lollygagging.
There would have been no war without Argentina managing to create a mythical sovereignty grievance.
Aug 25th, 2017 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +1If only the Peruvians had known the truth about Argentina's scam claim.
Argentina's Illegitimate Sovereignty Claims: https://www.academia.edu/27599163/Argentinas_Illegitimate_Sovereignty_Claims
Have the Peruvian groundcrews that might have serviced the Mirages been given medals by Argentina? Usually happens to people that offered to serve with Argentina in 1982, but couldn't quite make it.
Aug 25th, 2017 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +1“lallygagging”? What does this mean?
Aug 26th, 2017 - 06:08 am - Link - Report abuse +1Gord01
Aug 26th, 2017 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Lollygagging means standing around not doing much of anything
England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
Aug 27th, 2017 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -5Hey Editor! Clobber Sassy as well, will you?
Aug 27th, 2017 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Sassy obviously doesn't know that in this part of Ireland a girl who is 'sassy' is the same thing as what the English call a 'slapper'
Aug 28th, 2017 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +1If Peru and Argentina are such long standing allies and Peru helped Argentina in their war, why did Argentina supply weapons to Ecuador during the later war between Peru and Ecuador?
Aug 29th, 2017 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Demon Tree: That's called corruption. Corruption of the Argentine government in the 1990s. Former President Carlos Menem is sentenced to 7 years in prison for illegal arms sales to Ecuador and Croatia.
Aug 29th, 2017 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Malvinense
Aug 29th, 2017 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So the voters did not know their president was doing this? Why did he do it? To support Ecuador or just to make money?
And I do not understand why Menem is still in the senate rather than in jail. Senators have immunity, but why do people in his province still vote for him knowing what he's done?
@ Brit Bob..
Aug 29th, 2017 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse -2There is no myth, there is no scam, you see only the point of view that best suits you. Before you were the Spaniard (and this is history) after the independence of Spain is inheritance of Argentina, here is the whole truth, you live in a place only for supremacy and military power that's all !!! Argentina can not do anything, It would be more coherent to admit that thanks to the military force all of you live in the Falklands.
@ Demon Tree: It is not about supporting anyone, simply filling their pockets. And as to why he's still in the Senate and why he's being voted on are questions that have no answers and I do not understand either.
Aug 29th, 2017 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Malvi
Aug 29th, 2017 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You don't know anyone from La Rioja then? None of the commenters from Argentina seem to understand it, but he got nearly 45% of the votes in the primary. Obviously someone likes him.
Do you think Macri and/or CFK are also only interested in filling their pockets?
And speaking of CFK, I see they finished the recount and she won the primary in the end, by only 0.4%. It still could go either way in the real election though.
They all lived happily in the FALKLANDS long before a large military presence, it is only because Argentinas colonial attitude that there is a substancial military presence there. Anyway doesn't matter as long as the FALKLANDERS wish to remain a BOT ( British Overseas Territory )
Aug 29th, 2017 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Johnny Colman “Here is the whole truth”
Sep 01st, 2017 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Foreign Secretary Palmerston to Don Manuel Moren, jan. 8, 1834,22 BRITISH AND FOREIGN STATE PAPERS (1833-1834), at 1384 (1847).“No answer was, however, at any time returned, nor was any objection raised..to the rights of Great Britain, as asserted in that protest; but the Buenos Ayrean government persisted..The government of the United Provinces of the Rio de la Plata could not have expected, after the explicit declaration…,that his Majesty would silently submit to such a course of proceeding; nor could that government have been surprised at the step which his Majesty thought proper to take, in order to the resumption of rights which had never been abandoned, and which had only been permitted to lie dormant, under circumstances which had been explained to the Buenos-Ayrean government.
The claim of Great Britain to the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands having been unequivocally asserted and maintained, during those discussions with Spain, in 1770 and 1771, which nearly led to a war between the two countries, and Spain having deemed it proper to put an end to those discussions, by restoring to his Majesty the places from which British subjects had been expelled, the government of the United Provinces could not reasonably have anticipated that the British Government would permit any other state to exercise a right, as derived from Spain, which Great Britain had denied to Spain herself; and this consideration alone would fully justify his Majesty’s Government in declining to enter into any further explanation upon a question which, upwards of half a century ago, was so notoriously and decisively adjusted with another government more immediately concerned.”
England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
Sep 02nd, 2017 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse -1@Terence Hill:
Sep 02nd, 2017 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0your explanation is much better than what I read up to now !!!
I don't doubt that if someone would have done as you, may be this issue could finish soon avoinding an useless war, anyway, doesn't matter so many years has passed without a solution, but today millions of Argentines feel annoy because you are in their territorial waters ....how could you solve this? I'm interested to know your point of view!!
Many thanks !!
J.C.
Sep 03rd, 2017 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0You make the point that........“millions of Argentines feel annoy because you are in their territorial waters”
We are saying with equal conviction that they are NOT Argentinian territorial waters.
For decades Argentinian schoolchildren have been fed the propaganda that the islands always were and will be Argentinian without any real proof that would stand up in a court of law. It is so strongly ingrained in the national psyche that to question this would be an act of treason. It would be like asking a Jesuit to renounce the Scriptures.
A reasoned argument is almost an impossibility.
Johnny Colman
Sep 03rd, 2017 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Doesn't matter so many years has passed without a solution” The matter was resolved in 1833 under the tenets of international law at that time, so the UK is correct legally, the issue is closed. Any attempts to apply modern international law retroactively is prohibited.
“..It is therefore not surprising that the General Assembly declared in 1970 that the modem prohibition against the acquisition of territory by conquest should not be construed as affecting titles to territory created 'prior to the Charter regime and valid under international law'..”
Akehursts Modern Introduction to International Law By Peter Malanczuk
Cloon
Sep 03rd, 2017 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey dippy Hepatia 'Cloon' is a baile fearainn in Galway in the west of Ireland.
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