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Vatican protocol message to President Macri when Pope overflew Argentina

Tuesday, January 16th 2018 - 10:09 UTC
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While overflying Argentine territory on Monday, in his trip to Chile for a three-day visit, Pope Francis sent his “warm greetings” to President Mauricio Macri and called on his fellow Argentines not to forget to pray for him, in his twenty second apostolic trip, which also includes Peru. Read full article


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  • pgerman

    It was a protocolary message as it is mandatory to any foreign Head of State who, on an official visit, overflies the Argentine territory.

    The good thing is that the Pope sent the message in English so the whole global community could read it without needing any translation.Sadly, the Argentine Government answered back in Spanish .....

    Jan 16th, 2018 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Patrick Edgar

    That's appropriate. The Pope represents a world church. (I might argue that it needed to be English) ... While Argentina speaks Spanish. Ireland English, France French, Russia Russian, China Chinese...
    When do you think this “fight against Argentina regardless of whatever the hell is being talked about campaign of your country's culture will end”?
    Oh ya, that's right, now I remember. Until you finish taking whatever you want to take from the world without others arguing about it, right? Or until Argentina says, “sure we don't matter! whatever you say! ”We'll drop the claim to the Falklands!”
    ... It must be because your country and a few other ones are asking the men of the world to offer their anuses to the standard desires of every man's human civil rights. I got news for you. I don't think that was ever going to make us equal to women. Or your men. Sorry... I think you got that one wrong.

    Jan 16th, 2018 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Enrique Massot

    Hey, MP!
    Why turn around the topic? It's well known that Pope Francisco' ideas of social justice don't jibe with Macri's “business friendly” position, as if the word “friendly” could be applied to a president increasingly addict to rubber bullets and peeper spray.
    And so, it is a given that the increasing hardship Macri is imposing on fellow citizens won't do much to warm the relationship between the Vatican and the current Argentine government.

    Jan 16th, 2018 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    What on earth was that about?

    PS. You are hilariously wrong about pgerman's nationality...

    Jan 16th, 2018 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Patrick Edgar

    Try to connect it to what he said before @DT “The good thing is that the Pope sent the message in English so the whole global community could read it without needing any translation.--Sadly, the Argentine Government answered back in Spanish--”
    I'm gonna get this out here because I want to go sleep and don't feel like waiting for someone to say something more in the other thread “about gun traffic via Paraguay to Brazil” where I left my little outburst just now. So moreover:
    I'm also fed up with all the bull sh%^&* crying exaggeration propaganda to make the conflict about the Islanders home, going on and on about Argentine soldiers taking shits inside their living rooms, and how these poor peaceful farmers were “attacked” by mean Argentina, WHEN CLEARLY they are all enhanced and embellished stories to try distract and detract from the real matter and issue which is the sovereignty dispute between the British Government and the Argentine Government. If you can't all see that, well you're all just stupid and completely brain washed. Like I said in that other thread, this dispute which is now listed in the UN, is not about the Falkland Islanders. So quit trying to make it about this islanders! And to reiterate, the islanders have no more rights to the islands than a citizen from Manchester has in going and painting Buckingham Palace Yellow!

    Jan 17th, 2018 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • pgerman


    But who the hell wants to “warm up” the relationship with Pope (of Rome)? As a freemason, I can say that the best thing that can happen for democratic, republican, free and secular principles is to have an “offended” Pope far away from Argentina.

    His alleged mockery to the government (in a message in English) is another great advantage: nobody of the poorest people that he is supposed to “represent” and “defend” understands English. This time the old fox (Bergoglio) has shot himself his foot .... it is not usual for a Pope to be so wrong ... Popes are usually very skilled for diplomatic relationship.

    Is The Pope an “anti-business leader”. Yea, sure. Try getting the economic subsidies (paid by the country) to bishops, priests and seminarians, and you will see how “anti-business” the Argentine Catholic Church is.

    Jan 17th, 2018 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot


    Who? Macri, that's who! Most Argentines are Catholic and most governments want to have the Church on their side. You right: Francisco should not have written his message in English--doing it in Italiano would have been more fitting...

    Jan 17th, 2018 - 04:38 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Capt Rockhopper

    @Patrik Edgar, you are a deranged individual. Why is an american born italian commenting on this site?

    Jan 17th, 2018 - 07:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo


    Perhaps you don't comprehend my simple message of peace and reason... I find your last comments disrespectful, ignorant and “antangonistic” to the intelligent guidance from DemonTree and myself. Maybe it's because you're an Argentine with a typical thick head. Here's some help, first word to understand is DICTIONARY: antangonisti: The Argentine way for being antagonistic. (anTANGOnistic)

    It just sad you weren't not born in a decent enlightened country like Chile.

    Jan 17th, 2018 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • munchie

    I just watched a posting of the popes visit. As he passed by a mounted female police officer, her horse threw her and she was injured. This man stopped his “pope mobile” dismounted and walked back to check on her, as she was carried away to the ambulance, he bent down and kissed her on the forehead. I do not believe in god, I am a British 1980's veteran and I have no reason to like Argentinians. When I heard he was to be made pope, I was not happy and I said so, because he was an Argentine. I was wrong, this man is probably the most humane religious leader there as ever been. I take this opportunity to apologise to him and to you the Argentine people. This is a good man and whether you believe or not, you must respect him for his beliefs and more importantly his actions. If there is a god, then perhaps for once, this is his representative on earth.

    Jan 19th, 2018 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • British_Kirchnerist

    munchie that's a brilliant comment, maybe the best on the many Papal visit threads, I was going to take issue with some of the article but I'd rather just reply to you. I also wasn't happy when he was announced as the new Pope, because of his clashes with Cristina and links with (or at least silence under) the junta in the 70s. But since he became Pope he's turned out to be maybe the best since Peter, a reformer in his church, fearless critic of injustice in the world, and a good and humane man. He's even mended his relationship with Cristina, and proven the friendship to be genuine by not keeping it up with her awful successor. I salute him and as you say it may be that the Spirit has truly been at work through the Church this time =)

    Jan 21st, 2018 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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