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Macri's ¨coffin¨ and insulting songs MMSOB, the latest fad in Argentine football stadiums
The police of Argentina's second city, Rosario seized four cardboard “coffins” one of them with the name of president Mauricio Macri, before a football match of the Argentine premier league, involving one of the city's leading teams Rosario Central. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“Insults against Macri took off following a draw 1-1 between San Lorenzo and Boca Juniors, because of alleged referee errors which privileged Boca, and because Macri is a football fan and ex president of the club from 1995 to 2007, before turning into politics.”
Mar 05th, 2018 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Typical of the “chusma” that goes to the stadiums....very courageous in big groups, but stinkin' cowards when alone...
Mauricio Macri, who doesn't give a rat's arse about street, was reportedly furious and worried about what's being called “the Hit of the Summer.”
Mar 05th, 2018 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse -4Indeed, this has happened before in Argentina and is a serious call to attention to any government because it reflects like nothing else the mood at the street level.
That's why apologists like JB get furious against this ubiquitous form of resistance.
Yeah, because football hooligans are leading a resistance. Haha,
Mar 06th, 2018 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +2EM
Mar 06th, 2018 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Think you misunderstood the point of what I said.....Was referring to type of crap that mostly frequents the stadiums in South America, many times staging battles in the street, after the game just because their poor little team lost, and killing a few - but when caught , cry like babies....that is why I called them 'chusma'......the fact that they made a link between the referees mistakes (allegedly favouring Boca) and Macri, is something that would only happen in the minds of idiots...If they want to protest against Macri, go ahead, but at least base it on something more relevant......
Ah, just one more thing Reekie, “JB get furious” ????? how did you reach that 'brilliant' conclusion ?
JB
Mar 06th, 2018 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse -3I hate stadium violence as well, although I find rich your mention of this as if it were a South America-only invention. (No coincidence the term hooliganism exists in English).
I know MP chose to mix the coffin thing (an isolated incident) to the chants that are sprouting in many places, beyond soccer games.
Now, I think you would be mistaken linking this expression of people to the violence that too often has tarnished soccer. The chants have remained a verbal form of protest without any violence beyond their strong meaning.
They are spontaneous, embryonic expression of ill will towards a government that hasn't hesitated to use strong means to discourage demonstrations.
Macri is reportedly worried by the chants more than by other forms of protest. He should.
@EM
Mar 07th, 2018 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Recapitulating : I think that soccer crowds in general are potential hooligans - had no intention of excluding any - the exceptions being...I really don't know....On the other hand, take a look at rugby fans, all sitting down in their seats, fans from opposite teams sitting together, drinking beer, behaving themselves and enjoying the game....would it be because they attract a slightly better educated crowd (?), and does the fact that the players usually respect each other (far less deliberate fouls), AND the referee (?) have something to with the behavior of the spectators ? something you don't usually see in soccer. In South America the problem is worse, as seen by the constant confrontations between fans, and useless killing that many times goes on outside the stadiums. To protest against the government at stadiums, because of something irrelevant to the game, attracts idiots, people who are easily dragged towards collective hysteria, instead of thinking for themselves and acting civilized....I reiterate, if you want to protest against the president, get thousands to chant outside the government palace, or his house...then he will definitely get the message....any president that 'listens' to the streets, should interpret the protests for what they are, and if they are legitimate, try to eliminate the root of the problem.
@JB
Mar 11th, 2018 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Nice attempt to rationalize.
“...any president that 'listens' to the streets, should interpret the protests for what they are, and if they are legitimate, try to eliminate the root of the problem.”
How nice. You are totally making abstraction of the class concept. Mauricio Macri is not governing for all Argentines. He is governing for a class minority, and his main job is to benefit his friends and a minority while keeping the majorities in check--by cheap talk or by force--as demonstrated.
However, if there is something Argentina must be recognized for, is for little tolerance for bad governments. Not that we did not have--we had too many--but none lasted decades as in other Latin American countries.
Sorry my dear friend, but you don't get to dictate the creative ways in which Argentines are going to demonstrate their discontent.
@EM
Mar 11th, 2018 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse +2“Nice attempt to rationalize”...not really, just the need to go into further detail because you were incapable of understanding the first time.
“...making abstraction of the class concept” ? how come ? ...Ah, I get it, because CFK governed for all Argentines, and that is why she lost the elections ? or did only those who didn't like her, get to vote ?
Reekie, what have I been “dictating” ? nothing as far as I can see...simply saying what I think...
And comparing soccer and rugby fans is valid, as it has a lot to do with the point of this discussion....as anyone whose been to stadiums to watch both games, knows....and if you don't get to the stadiums, watch them on TV.
@JB
Mar 13th, 2018 - 02:18 am - Link - Report abuse -1It's much more than soccer.
Forgot to tell you that, although the “MM SOB” little song originated in the stadiums, it has quickly propagated to other venues such as concerts, the subway, movie theatres, people watching the presidential motorcade, waiting lines, and wherever crowds gather and especially when people are being inconvenienced.
The little song 'the hit of the summer' has already been played in Mexican, Arabic and Balcanic styles, played in piano, guitar and accordion. It has been portrayed in social media in dozens of different ways--basically unstoppable.
I love it because it's peaceful and effective to convey a feeling that is spreading like a prairie fire.
@EM
Mar 13th, 2018 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Well looks like song will be a national hit and it's well on the way to becoming a classic....when can I order the CD ?
@JB
Mar 14th, 2018 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse -1One of the best ones below--also, somebody has taken it for his phone 'ringtone.' :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-wajHepcg8
EM
Mar 14th, 2018 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +1I can imagine an executive being considered for promotion, riding the elevator with the directors and the president, and his mobile starts chanting that 'luuuuvely' song....
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