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South Georgia fisheries licensing controversy reaches the leading media in UK

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Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson was accused of betraying by handing lucrative licenses in the South Atlantic to foreign firms. The row erupted after it emerged that £75million worth of licenses in the South Atlantic have been handed to firms from Norway, Chile and New Zealand, according to reports in the UK media. Read full article


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  • Roger Lorton

    Wasn't there some suggestion that one of the firms had blotted its licence copybook last year?

    Apr 14th, 2018 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • BrianFI

    Yes, they were caught fishing illegally.
    The San Aspiring nd the other vessels have been in south georgia for over a decade.
    The vessels who got the license are part owned by a local company and operated from stanley
    British fisherman? one vessel that lost its license is a Uruguayan flagged vessel crewed by Spaniards and south Americans, they aint british fisherman. this is fake news
    MLA Barkeman is embarrassing herself with ignorant comments and showing her lack of experience

    Apr 14th, 2018 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Good Thinking..., Mr. BrianFI...

    Seems to be that some Kelpers..., tempted by the easy vile mammon flowing into their private pockets..., are embracing the worst Spaniard fishing cheats...

    For thirty pieces of silver..., they are even willing to defame the giant and, noble but humble bulwark of Engrishnes that Yankee born Turkish..., German..., Russian..., Engrish Boris Johnson represents... ;-)

    Apr 14th, 2018 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • BrianFI

    don't matter, the new vessels still operate out of stanley and have falkland shareholders. they deserved to get the licenses

    Apr 14th, 2018 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Brit Bob

    Argentina has claimed 200 nautical miles of sea from its shores and around the Falkland Islands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands under Article 56 & 57 of UNCLOS whereby coastal States can claim Exclusive Economic Zones with regard to exploring and exploiting natural resources.

    Oh dear.

    Falklands – Territorial Waters:

    Apr 14th, 2018 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr. BrianFI...

    Not good Thinking.., mate...

    Are you really telling us..., that you THINK..., that certfied cheaters must get British fishing licenses in disputed Briish/Argentinean waters.., only because some Engrish Kelpers happen to hold some cheaters shares...?

    Apr 14th, 2018 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • BrianFI

    No. I said the new Norwegian/Argos vessels deserved to get the licenses fortuna lost, they are part owned by islanders nd the vessels are very modern, some of the most modern and high tech in the world

    the chilean nd new zealand vessels have been fishing in s georgia for over a decade, so can't complain about that

    Apr 14th, 2018 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Mr. BrianFI...
    My bad... I misunderstood what you wrote...
    Heja Norge...;-)

    Apr 14th, 2018 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Jo Bloggs

    The Argos bid had years of preparation behind it. The notion that this is somehow unfair or un-British is nonsense; it is a bidding process. Plenty of the income will find its way into the islands. Perhaps not as much as when Fortuna held it but that’s the way the cookie crumbles. I don’t believe “being 100% British and 100% paying corporation tax into British coffers” was listed as an eligibility requirement.

    I might add, I have no direct interest in this one way or the other. I have never worked for Fortuna or Argos, nor have I or my employer ever owned shares in either company. We have done small amounts of business with both companies but nothing directly to do with fishing.

    Apr 14th, 2018 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    Mr. Lorton..., Mr. BrianFI..., Mr. Jo Bloggs and humble me in full agreement...
    We should celebrate it with a double match of badminton...!

    Apr 14th, 2018 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    You've not been around much. Did you ever hear back from that Express journalist you messaged?

    Apr 15th, 2018 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • portman

    it must be noted that south georgia and the south sandwich islands is a british overseas territory in its own right. the argos bid might have included components to improve the economy of sgssi which the fortuna bid did not. as far as i'm aware the policies guiding the issue of fi licences do not include any points for benefiting the economies of other bots or any other countries other than fi. why should they?

    Apr 16th, 2018 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think


    it must be noted that the Georgias and Sangüiches del Sur Islands are currently a disputed British Overseas Territory in its own right or wrong...

    The Argos bid does include a component which the Fortuna bid does not... They ain't cheaters...(Yet...)

    As far as I'm aware..., the guiding line of any issue treated by the FIG(leaf) cooks down to...:

    1) Anything that makes money for us Kelpers is very much welcomed..., fkuck them British...

    2) Anything that doesn't make money for us Kelpers, ain't what our 255 Belowed British Boys died for...

    3) Simples...

    Apr 16th, 2018 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Roger Lorton

    DT - apologies. I have my head in a new (?) book. Intrigued and confused at the same time, particularly as the authors have 'borrowed' a fair chunk of the Timeline. Still, I suppose I nicked most of it in the first place.

    No, no response. Not entirely surprising. It's all rather quiet on the Falklands News front. The Macri effect perhaps.

    Apr 17th, 2018 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    You know what we say i Spanish..., Rodge...
    Ladrón que roba a ladrón..., tiene 100 años de perdon...

    Apr 17th, 2018 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    Tut tut. What book is that? Perhaps you could ask them to at least credit you?

    Apr 17th, 2018 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton


    They have in general terms - “Part of the accounted events was taken from Roger Lorton's ”Falklands Wars - the History ......... The accuracy of his work as to the time and sequence of events offers a good framework to judge the credibility of the sources quoted.“

    ”Part” being about 70% of the first half of the book - I grew a little bored reading my own quotes.

    The book is - Falklands or Malvinas: Myths & Facts by Manuel Pedro Peña & Juan Ángel Peña.

    The English language edition is new although in one form or another it has been around since 2015 I Think. Two lawyers again.

    Book is in 2 parts. First dealing with the history, second with their legal opinions. On first view it's unusual because it attacks such Argentine myths as that surrounding the Gaucho Rivero. Sadly, it leaves such myths as the Argentine 'inheritance' from Spain as an unassailable assumption.

    My complaints are that it has handled my work carelessly, many dating errors, some just daft (eg. two different dates for the same quote over 2 pages). It's also overly reliant on Goebel's 1927 work for part of the history although they do doubt the supposed 'secret promise.'

    There are many other inaccuracies too. They say that the Falklands were part of Britain's 1955 submission to the ICJ for example although I can't tell whether that's down to poor research or a shoddy translation/editing.

    There are, as you'd expect, many things I disagree with, but the surprise is, that there are many things that dyed in the wool malvinsitas such as Kohen will hate also.

    I'm awaiting another lawyer's opinion on the legal position of these two Argentine lawyers which seems to be founded, in part at least, on 'Intertemporal Law'.

    Still not sure what to make of it but worth the 5 quid for the Kindle edition.

    Apr 17th, 2018 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yaigulah3x

    England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.

    Apr 20th, 2018 - 02:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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