A man was seriously wounded early on Saturday when a gunman opened fire on a vigil in the southern Brazilian city of Curitiba, where former president Lula da Silva is serving time for corruption, his party said. Read full article
PT president Gleisi Hoffmann also stated that the action was reminiscent of the attack on the pro Lula Convoy earlier in the year. Thank you Gleisi for this relevant fact. The police investigation found that the shot into the bus was not made from a distance at a travelling vehicle but in fact at close range while the vehicle was stationary. With this in mind I believe that the 9 mm pistol was in the hands of a person within the group. The lack of support for Lula is so disappointing to the leaders of PT that they have to do something to prove Gleisi's prophecy of Blood will flow to be correct.
Personalities line up to visit Lula in his cell, thousands of letters are sent to him from all over the world, a petition is asking for the Nobel Prize to be bestowed to him, vote intention keeps climbing and loyal supporters keep an amazing vigil near his prison.
The strategy of putting Lula behind bars to force electors to turn away is clearly not working. Brazilians are not relying on politically-motivated judges to tell them who Lula is.
They know who Lula really is, and they want him, again, to take the challenge to conduct their country towards a better destiny.
As a result, it's not surprising that increasingly bold attempts to intimidate Lula's supporters are taking place--the Latin American elites have never hesitated to use violence when their comfortable status quo is under threat.
REF: a petition is asking for the Nobel Prize to be bestowed to him:
During +/- 15 years of PT-Regime; they began when the economy was somewhat OK! Look what happened to the economy at the end of the regime! Maybe that's why he'll get the Nobel Prize!
Indeed, good things happened and those were the things that mattered to millions of people in Brazil who saw their poverty alleviated--this, in a country where poverty was never addressed before.
Was Lula's government perfect--or corruption free? No. There were occurrences of corruption. This is very different from governments in which corruption is not an occurrence, but a structural quality. Here I am talking about most other Brazilian governments, including Temer's. The ones you and your ilk will never say a word about.
So THAT's why the economy went bust after the 15 years of being in absolute power?
If a politician is not corrupt; why else is he/she wasting time in politics? ALL the sins are washed [laundered?] away; after the donors [investors?] graciously donate millions [R$? US$? Euros?] for the campaigns! This is a UNIVERSAL fact - not related/restricted to Brazil alone!
@EM
If you agree that corruption was entrenched in the Brazilian government before Lula, and is entrenched in the Brazilian government after Lula, you can be sure it remained entrenched while Lula was in charge.
Even if he wanted to change it, doing anything about the corruption would be incredibly difficult. Firstly in order to campaign he needed money, and who has money to give? The same companies who donate money to all the politicians in order to get contracts and other favourable treatment. Secondly in order to achieve anything, he needed the Congress, civil service etc to cooperate. If he tried to cut them off from their illegal money, they'd rebel and he'd be lucky to stay in power, let alone achieve anything worthwhile. Thirdly he ended up having to go into coalition with the PMDB, and what do you imagine they demanded in exchange for their support? You just told us what you think of their approach to government.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesPT president Gleisi Hoffmann also stated that the action was reminiscent of the attack on the pro Lula Convoy earlier in the year. Thank you Gleisi for this relevant fact. The police investigation found that the shot into the bus was not made from a distance at a travelling vehicle but in fact at close range while the vehicle was stationary. With this in mind I believe that the 9 mm pistol was in the hands of a person within the group. The lack of support for Lula is so disappointing to the leaders of PT that they have to do something to prove Gleisi's prophecy of Blood will flow to be correct.
Apr 30th, 2018 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A pathetic+pitiable + the least dramatic farce - a desperate + disgraceful attempt to gain the sympathy of the ignorant!!
Apr 30th, 2018 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Christopher Hitchens
Apr 30th, 2018 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Personalities line up to visit Lula in his cell, thousands of letters are sent to him from all over the world, a petition is asking for the Nobel Prize to be bestowed to him, vote intention keeps climbing and loyal supporters keep an amazing vigil near his prison.
Apr 30th, 2018 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The strategy of putting Lula behind bars to force electors to turn away is clearly not working. Brazilians are not relying on politically-motivated judges to tell them who Lula is.
They know who Lula really is, and they want him, again, to take the challenge to conduct their country towards a better destiny.
As a result, it's not surprising that increasingly bold attempts to intimidate Lula's supporters are taking place--the Latin American elites have never hesitated to use violence when their comfortable status quo is under threat.
“Investigators discovered 9mm bullet casings, restricted for use by the military, military police and civil police forces, near the spot where assailants fired 20 rounds from a car at the Marisa Leticia camp (part of the larger Free Lula vigil) in Curitiba, Brazil, early Saturday morning.”
May 01st, 2018 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse -1https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Another-Marielle-Bullets-Used-in-Attack-on-Lula-Camp-Reserved-for-Brazil-Military-Police-20180429-0006.html
@EM:
May 01st, 2018 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0REF: a petition is asking for the Nobel Prize to be bestowed to him:
During +/- 15 years of PT-Regime; they began when the economy was somewhat OK! Look what happened to the economy at the end of the regime! Maybe that's why he'll get the Nobel Prize!
@Skull
May 02nd, 2018 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look what happened to the economy at the end of the 'regime.'
Before the end of what you call 'the regime,' good things happened.
Which is much more than most Brazilian governments can claim.
@EM
May 03rd, 2018 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0REF: good things happened: Menslão, Lava-Jato; for a FEW examples; you mean - before the shit hit the fan?
@Skull
May 04th, 2018 - 02:43 am - Link - Report abuse -1Indeed, good things happened and those were the things that mattered to millions of people in Brazil who saw their poverty alleviated--this, in a country where poverty was never addressed before.
Was Lula's government perfect--or corruption free? No. There were occurrences of corruption. This is very different from governments in which corruption is not an occurrence, but a structural quality. Here I am talking about most other Brazilian governments, including Temer's. The ones you and your ilk will never say a word about.
@EM:
May 04th, 2018 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse +1REF: “good things happened”:
So THAT's why the economy went bust after the 15 years of being in absolute power?
If a politician is not corrupt; why else is he/she wasting time in politics? ALL the sins are washed [laundered?] away; after the donors [investors?] graciously donate millions [R$? US$? Euros?] for the campaigns! This is a UNIVERSAL fact - not related/restricted to Brazil alone!
@EM
May 04th, 2018 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you agree that corruption was entrenched in the Brazilian government before Lula, and is entrenched in the Brazilian government after Lula, you can be sure it remained entrenched while Lula was in charge.
Even if he wanted to change it, doing anything about the corruption would be incredibly difficult. Firstly in order to campaign he needed money, and who has money to give? The same companies who donate money to all the politicians in order to get contracts and other favourable treatment. Secondly in order to achieve anything, he needed the Congress, civil service etc to cooperate. If he tried to cut them off from their illegal money, they'd rebel and he'd be lucky to stay in power, let alone achieve anything worthwhile. Thirdly he ended up having to go into coalition with the PMDB, and what do you imagine they demanded in exchange for their support? You just told us what you think of their approach to government.
@EM
May 05th, 2018 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse +1REF: They know who Lula really is, and they want him, again, to take the challenge to conduct their country towards a better destiny:
They [you] worry needlessly! Didn't I tell you that Lulla will be back in his triplex in a jiffy? REF:
https://i2.wp.com/www.humorpolitico.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Dias-Toffoli-Lula-Livre.jpg?resize=580%2C405&ssl=1
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