MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Future economy minister says Mercosur not a priority for Bolsonaro's Brazil
Mercosur is not a priority, and Argentina is not a priority for the new government of Brazil, the priority is to trade with all the world. The strong statement came from Paulo Guedes, signaled as the next Finance minister of president elect Jair Bolsonaro's cabinet and a crucial player in that team since the newly elected leader has admitted a limited knowledge of economics. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesREF: “Mercosur not a priority”:
Oct 30th, 2018 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse +2Is Brazil a priority?
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Lol. Death to globalism.
Oct 30th, 2018 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Trump nationalism seems to be the new trend.
Oct 30th, 2018 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At last....someone with a vision beyond the dysfunctional Mercosul, which has kept Brazil from negotiating trade agreements with countries that will be much better partners. While Mercosul will not be trashed, it just won't be Brazil's priority any longer ....excellent decision.
Oct 30th, 2018 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse +2The fact that Bolsonaro is no expert in Economics, is neither here nor there....that's exactly why there are 'ministers'....
But for those who would criticize Bolsonaro because of it, then pls explain what Lula understood of economics back in 2002 ? other than the 'economics' of how to fill your pocket with other people's money...
@JB
Oct 31st, 2018 - 04:08 am - Link - Report abuse -3“Excellent decision...”
Well, Jack, now that your dream has come to reality, I hope your new president tones down his actions in relation to his rhetoric. Not much hope though.
In any event, what's done is done and now comes reality. I hope you don't have to bitterly repent for having helped to take the genie out of the bottle.
About three years ago I predicted that Macri and his group of wealthy friends were going to sell Argentina for cheap. The results are now there for all to see, but even I fell short of foreseeing the contempt these people really harbour for the population.
You have already started to spit on Lula in order to make Bolsonaro look better and I can foresee you doing the same in years to come, just as Macrists keep doing in Argentina.
So far, a president-elect but he is already talking about reducing the expenditure. Is it about:
Oct 31st, 2018 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse +2- Ending the waste of public funds? [GREAT!]
- End of corruption? [a bit too much to swallow!!!]
- Reduction in Public-Services [education, health, etc]?
Worth Reading:
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/imagining-bolsonaro-brazil-181030133721227.html
@EM
Oct 31st, 2018 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0No, he's got a valid point. A president not knowing much about economics isn't necessarily a problem as long as they are willing to listen to advice and able to weigh the evidence honestly. And Bolso has found an economist to put in charge of finance, so apparently he's at least trying to do that. I think we both agree Guedes' neo-liberal policies are a bad idea, but there's plenty of people who support them, it's not just ignorance.
You should wait till people actually start blaming Bolsonaro's problems on Lula to criticise them for it.
If Guedes is good; he won't last long! Take it or leave it!
Oct 31st, 2018 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +1EM
Oct 31st, 2018 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Well, Jack, now that your dream has come to reality, I hope your new president tones down his actions in relation to his rhetoric. Not much hope though.”
1st, Bolsonaro was not my first choice...as the candidates narrowed down, he became, imo, the only viable option, given the mess the PT had made of Brazil...or, do you think the crisis is not their fault ??
He has alrady toned down his rhetoric, and if yoy were familiar with his proposals, you would know he is no threat to democracy, he is not a madman. His proposals make sense for any serious economy...it's a pity you don't have a better grip of it, and I think that is because you do not research, and have no interest in knowing - due to yr preferred ideolgy - the shit Lula was/is.
“You have already started to spit on Lula in order to make Bolsonaro look better ...”
THAT is a LIE....already started ??? I ALWAYS criticized Lula, I never needed to “spit ” on him to make anyone look better......in fact , there is no need to 'spit' on him, or spread fake news about the PT, the truth is already bad enough.
Sorry Reekie, I don't defend any ideolgy, I now defend the man, his proposals, and IF his proposals don't work, don't think I'm going to hit my head against the wall trying to justify them...I just ask for a reasonable period of time, after which the facts - not fake news - will speak for themselves. My advice ? (it's free.) stop reading leftist shit, check the 'facts'....
@JB
Nov 01st, 2018 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0REF: “I now defend the man, his proposals, and IF his proposals don't work, don't think I'm going to hit my head against the wall trying to justify them...I just ask for a reasonable period of time, after which the facts - not fake news - will speak for themselves”:
I agree with you! He [anyone] deserves to prove himself.
A report from Aljazeera Opinion, [imagining-bolsonaro-brazi] is not much of a eulogy.
Besides, Man is known by the Company He Keeps:
REF: Fake News from the BBC:
https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-46012368?ocid=socialflow_twitter
:o))
Nov 01st, 2018 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0P'ra variar....cadê o EM, vulgo Reekie ? always posting big statements but never capable of backing them up , or replying to the simplest of questions....always accusing me of what I haven't said, and thinking he can read my mind.....pitiful.....and impressive how he runs from debate.
Is it quite likely that they have no arguments left?
Nov 01st, 2018 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@:o))
Nov 02nd, 2018 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +1The PTs complaints and whining are just sour grapes....when you lie, you run out of plausible arguments pretty soon.....just one example : weren't they resorting to all sorts of legal chicanery to try to have Moro removed as the judge in the case of Lula's country home in Atibaia ? well, now that he has accepted Bolsonaro's invitation to become his minister of Justice, and is off the case, they should be thankful.....but no, the PT is up in arms, alleging this was their plan all along, to get rid of Lula (as if they had been conspiring together since 2016)....but the fact is that the first time Moro and Bolsonaro ever met, and even then, very briefly, was in March 2017 (while waiting for different flights at the airport), long before Bolsonaro became a candidate, and Moro snubbed him, in order to avoid the encounter being explored politically.
The PT has got what it wanted, yet continues to criticize Moro, probably because now they can no longer accuse him of 'persecuting' the 'toad'....they'll have to find another judge to criticize ......besides the PT, some groups in Congress are criticizing Moro's appointment,
especially those who were not re-elected - in January 2019, they lose their political immunity and will be prosecuted for corruption in lower federal court. Should be a good clean-out........
”Bolsonaro, foreign meddling and the destruction of Brazilian democracy
Nov 02nd, 2018 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0…external interference in national affairs has been, and still is, prevalent... A 2005 study published in the Harvard Review of Latin America shows that between 1898 and 1994 the US successfully caused regime changes in the region 41 times, which comes out to an average of one every 28 months. ..this study, published at Harvard University, does not analyze recent possible US interventions such as those in …and Brazil (2016).
…a long history of interventions, … includes the Brazilian Military Coup of 1964. This suggests that wider and deeper analysis needs to be made of the 2016 parliamentary coup, of Operation Car Wash and its modus operandi, and above all, of Bolsonaro’s meteoric rise and his fascism.
This is why there have long been suspicions that this overwhelming misinformation campaign had the fingerprint of foreign intelligence agencies, as well as big national and international corporations, committed to promoting this so-called “hybrid war.”
This suspicion was confirmed by a story in Folha de São Paulo, a newspaper that has no sympathy for the PT, on October 18, 2018. The story revealed that Bolsonaro’s social network campaign of lies and hate is being financed by dirty money from big companies that is used to contract tech firms that specialize in boosting information through social networks.
Just one … spent around $3.5 Million USD to spread fake news through the Brazilian social media. Most of the telephone numbers used were based abroad, mainly in the USA. Apparently, this story is just the tip of the iceberg and many actions are continuing without any investigations whatsoever.
In Brazil, this type of activity constitutes a serious electoral crime. However, the TSE has been washing its hands of it,….”
http://www.brasilwire.com/bolsonaro-foreign-meddling-and-the-destruction-of-brazilian-democracy/
@JB
Nov 03rd, 2018 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0REF: “The PTs [& supporters] complaints and whining”:
That's not only going to be non-stop; it's likely to be damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't!
However, REF:BBC:
https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-45978191?
@:o))
Nov 03rd, 2018 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0é, se corre o bicho pega, se fica o bicho come. Agora, veja só a *erda que o nosso comunista de plantão escreveu (abaixo)...
@TH
“This suspicion was confirmed by a story in Folha de São Paulo, a newspaper that has no sympathy for the PT, on October 18, 2018”.................
Wow, “Folha de SP, no sympathy for the PT” ???? that lie tops most of yr others...not only is the “Folha” a partner in bullsh*t with the PT, but it hates Jair Bolsonaro......anyone can see that, even you should be able to, despite being retarded. All the accusations - by the PT of course, which btw, LOST the election - are fake news, as absolutely nothing has been found to substantiate them....but pls lap up yr leftie bs, it's what you thrive on.
I don't argue with idiots.
JB
Nov 03rd, 2018 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“that lie tops most of yr others.” From someone whom I expose your lies frequently including your last claim
JB “the alleged 2000 rapes, nowhere in the link you posted, did it state that the Brazilians committed any of them....”
Oh yes it did “there were over two thousand accusations of rape levelled against Brazilian soldiers”
http://en.mercopress.com/2018/10/23/opinion-polls-confirm-bolsonaro-is-set-to-become-brazil-s-president-next-sunday/comments#comment494161
Whereas you cannot produce even a single instance of me lying.
“fake news”is an artifice of the alt.right.
I don't argue with idiots.” Maybe you should start because you're not doing to well up to now.
TH
Nov 03rd, 2018 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Say something new numb nuts....invent some new lies...Are you a robot ?
By not arguing with you I save myself a lot of time, and use it far better than wasting it on you.
More Taxes are coming, more taxes are coming!
Nov 03rd, 2018 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0JB
Nov 03rd, 2018 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Say something.” So you cannot refute that you lied as to charges levelled against Brazil's UN Force in Haiti, that I have revealed.
Yes Terry, whatever you say, whatever you “reveal”...Oh my !!!
Nov 04th, 2018 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't argue with idiots.
JB
Nov 04th, 2018 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”I don't argue with idiots.” Maybe you should start because you're not doing to well up to now.
@TH
Nov 04th, 2018 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No I don't argue with idiots...I just point out their mistakes....like the two times you pissed out the pot in the last few days ....1st, totally misunderstanding Gen. Heleno's words, and 2nd, your thinking that Bolsonaro's 5th kid being a girl, was due to “his wife's 'weakness' ”. Hilarious !!
REFL “Mercosur not a priority for Bolsonaro's Brazil”:
Nov 04th, 2018 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Priority is to increase the Armed Forces' Budget!
https://virusplanetario.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/reitor-vieiralves-censura-uerj.gif
JB
Nov 04th, 2018 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You mean the professional writer that was mislead, by a poorly ambiguous Brazilian article. While I exposed your lying about the charges levelled against the Brazilian UN Force.
“your thinking that Bolsonaro's 5th kid being a girl, was due to “his wife's 'weakness'”
”What Bolsonaro said (jokingly)“ Plus two more jokingly made comments, very unlikely, this is what he feels since he can't really think.
”He has said that women should be paid lower salaries because they get pregnant, and should stop “whining” about femicide.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/11/brazil-women-bolsonaro-ha
NOT priority:
Nov 05th, 2018 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://domtotal.com/img/charges/2342.jpg
TH
Nov 05th, 2018 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the fact the so-called “professional” (?) writer, whose crap you lap up without checking the original source (Gen Heleno's FB, in one case), makes you just as incompetent and as much of a liar as the writer....always trying to blame someone else....which you will no doubt do when you realize that your Adriana Carranco from “The Atlantic” is not very good at translating Portuguese to English either....you rely on ignorant, leftist idiots - because you too, are one - and then try to use their incompetence as an excuse...“não cola mais” !
JB
Nov 05th, 2018 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“without checking the original source” I will continue to operate as I always have. Since, you studiously avoid telling the truth at every opportunity, are in no position to lecture those of us, that strive to be as accurate as possible.
“as much of a liar as the writer...” Which is not at all, whereas your deliberate, constant misstating facts about the charges levelled against the Brazilian UN Force, is lying. You mean the professional writer that was mislead, by a poorly ambiguous Brazilian article.
“The Atlantic” is not very good ...” They are fine, the only thing that is unreliable is your opinionated fact less narrative, with your propensity for lying.
“try to use their incompetence ...” Looking at the poorly written source material from Brazil, it's self evident as to why he formed the opinion he did, and it was written in his native language.
@JB:
Nov 06th, 2018 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0REF: “those who were not re-elected”:
Those who couldn't enter through the front gate may enter - somehow [at least some of them] - by the back door!
After all, too much is at stake:
https://jornaldopovo.com.br/site/thumb.php?src=arquivos/charge/3822.jpg&x=420&y=3000&f=0
TH
Nov 06th, 2018 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“....I will continue to operate as I always have”......
Well, that is definitely no surprise....never doubted it, even for a second. You will continue to consult leftist sources, full of fake news, reported by incompetent left-wing journalists that are incapable of translating Portuguese to English correctly.....
Your excuses will not change the fact that you are easily manipulated by these many incompetent journalists, as shown by your shallow opinions....
JB
Nov 06th, 2018 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I will continue to consult whatever sources that appear to have something pertinent to say on the subject matter. The Atlanta is far I know is not a “leftist source, it is a middle of the road publication.” Regardless, I can dismiss your opining as you are the least reliable source, when it comes to truth.
“The Constitution continued as a morning paper with a liberal editorial bent, while the afternoon Journal had a more conservative leaning.”
https://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/arts-culture/atlanta-journal-constitution
“Your excuses” None given, just relevant issues of facts.
TH
Nov 06th, 2018 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know you will numb nuts, and I support your right to be stupid. ..
JB
Nov 06th, 2018 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“leftist sources, full of fake news,” Neither of which can you prove therefore they are both untrue.
“Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy; States of Affairs; First published Tue Mar 27, 2012
Philosophers connect sentences with various items, such as thoughts, facts and states of affairs. Thoughts are either true or false in an absolute sense, never both or neither.”
plato.stanford.edu/entries/states-of-affairs/
Whatever numb nuts...I don't argue with idiots.
Nov 06th, 2018 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0JB
Nov 06th, 2018 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I don't argue with idiots.” Then you won't be arguing with anyone, because I'm to much for a bozo like you to handle.
TH
Nov 06th, 2018 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry you idiot. It is up to me to classify whom I believe to be an idiot, as an idiot.....not you.
With every post, you sink deeper into your own shit...stupidity is kind of like quicksand.
JB
Nov 06th, 2018 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“it is up to me to classify whom I believe to be an idiot,” How long have you held this unmerited God complex?
“stupidity is kind of like quicksand.” If that was true you'd disappearing shortly.
“It is the property of fools to be always judging.” – Thomas Fuller
If I wanted to hear from an asshole, I'd fart
So, a thought crossed your mind? Must have been a long and lonely journey.
I wouldn't want you to think I wasn't paying attention, but frankly I've had more interesting bowel movements.
The Pension Reform is a great - an excellent - strategy which will benefit the government + the industries immensely! They'll be paying practically nothing and the employees'ill realize only when it is too late that they'll end up receiving Zero Benefit! Am I wrong in assuming so?
Nov 07th, 2018 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse +1https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lbViqEnibgg/WE4ccZRzfdI/AAAAAAABE_s/yumPEPfqaY0/Shot003_thumb%25255B2%25255D.png?imgmax=800
TH
Nov 07th, 2018 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So someone else should tell me whom I can/should consider an idiot ? is that what you believe ? that someone else should do your thinking for you ? I think your answer will be YES, as you are the example of an idiot who can't think for himself and depends on irrelevant quotes to express himself.
“is that what you believe ? that someone else should do your thinking for you ?”
Nov 07th, 2018 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course that's what he believes. Because he doesn't a single idea of his own, he thinks other people are similarly afflicted, and only 'experts' are allowed to have opinions.
JB
Nov 07th, 2018 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Someone else should do your thinking for you ?” Nope, but you'd be the last person in any event. As I'm continually able to out think you, which to be honest is not difficult to do. I use relevant quotes to show I'm not making it up like you.
DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
'Experts' are just the icing on the cake as their credentials qualify their opinion. Which means that what I'm stating is correct, otherwise I'd be like you two bozos.
It's cute how he thinks he's winning these arguments. Like a child being humoured by adults.
Nov 07th, 2018 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In my degree I learned how to prove things for myself, rather than trusting someone else's expertise, and that's what he doesn't understand. An argument stands or falls on it's own merits, regardless of who makes it.
Here Terry, I'll show you an example. In our very first Analysis lecture, we were asked to prove that numbers of the form abba, eg 1221, 7557, 8778, are always divisible by 11.
What a number of that form really means is:
1000a + 100b + 10b + a (where a and b are digits 0 - 9)
Rearranging:
1000a + 100b + 10b + a = 1001a + 110b = 11x91a + 11x10b
And by the distributive law:
11x91a + 11x10b = 11(91a + 10b)
And if a number can be expressed as 11 times something, that means it is divisible by 11.
QED
DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
Nov 08th, 2018 - 03:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thats right, when you're utterly beaten on an issue, 'muddy the waters' by trying to drag it off-topic. Your deference is noted, the issue that you yourself raised, is gone you've lost, it's over, finished. Nice pirouette, but totally irrelevant.
“sound reasoning noun accurate assessment, cogent reasoning, compelling reasoning, convincing logic, correct assessment, effective analysis, forceful reasoning, incontrovertible logic, irrefutable conclusions, judicious analysis, justified analysis, legitimate analysis, methodical analysis, persuasive reasoning, plausible reasoning, potent logic, powerful conclusions, proven reasoning, reasonable analysis, solid reasoning, sound rationale, strong reasoning, unchallengeable reasoning, indisputable reasoning, unimpeachable reasoning, well-founded logic, well-grounded logic, well-reasoned opinion”
https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/sound+reasoning
From REUTERS: “Brazil's Bolsonaro faces first fiscal setback as judges' pay rises”:
Nov 08th, 2018 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-politics-idUSKCN1NC2QF?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5be38ac704d301269decebb3&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter
Will JB blame the earlier govt. when the shit hits the fan?
@Dumbass
Nov 08th, 2018 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lol, what issue? I only posted to agree that you can't think for yourself, something your answer nicely demonstrates, btw. While I showed you an example of a simple proof, one I wrote myself, you... looked up a word in the dictionary. And apparently it took you 6 hours to do it, too. I've never seen anything so feeble in all my life.
@ :o))
He'll need allies, so I expect he'll blame the PT, but not the currently-in-government PMDB.
Also, Trump and Bolso need to get middle names; it's just scandalous that they've stolen me and Jack's initials. ;)
DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
Nov 08th, 2018 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“While I showed you an example of a simple proof” An off-topic fallacy of 'moving the goalposts'
“It took you 6 hours to do it” Hardly, it took me 2mins at max.
“The best way to win an argument is to begin by being right.” Jill Ruckeshaus
What argument? I only posted to agree you can't think for yourself, something you've continued to confirm. All you can do is quote other people (or even more pathetically, the dictionary) since you have no ideas of your own.
Nov 08th, 2018 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
Nov 08th, 2018 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I only posted to agree you can't think for yourself” Which was answered fully showing I can stand on my own two feet. While you two need each other to commensurate with. Your complete lack ethics is revealed for the benefit a proven liar.
'Experts' are just the icing on the cake as their credentials qualify their opinion. Which means that what I'm stating is correct, otherwise I'd be like you two bozos.
You can't 'commensurate' with someone, dumbo. Try using the dictionary for its intended purpose for once: checking the meaning and spelling of the words you use so you don't sound like an idiot.
Nov 08th, 2018 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only thing your posts prove is how right I am. There's not an original thought among them.
What I find as amusing is the FACT that the people take the Political Jokes so seriously that they hardly mind if relationships are severed due to the political-differences!
Nov 08th, 2018 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://libertopiacartoon.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/politicians.jpg
DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
Nov 08th, 2018 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You can't 'commensurate' with someone” Oh yes you can according to my OED v4.0.app
commensurate
1.1 Having the same measure; of equal extent, duration, or magnitude; coextensive. Const. with.
1.1 intr. To be of the same measure or extent with; to agree or ‘square’ with.
In a commensurate manner; proportionately, correspondingly.
But, I believe on review commiserate is an even better choice.
”There's not an original thought among them.
Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods. – Albert Einstei
Lol, you can BE commensurate with someone, but you can't commensurate with them, it just doesn't make sense. I thought you probably meant to say commiserate; you can avoid this problem by not using words you're unsure about.
Nov 08th, 2018 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway, if you want to demonstrate that you are capable of thinking for yourself, here is a simple puzzle:
Three playing cards in a row. Can you name them with these clues? There is a three to the right of a queen. A heart will be found to the left of a club. An eight is to the left of a diamond. A diamond is to the left of a club. Now, identify all three cards.
If you can tell me the answer, I'll admit that you are capable of logical reasoning. Hell, I'd wager £10 on if there was any way of giving it to you.
DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
Nov 08th, 2018 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You can't 'commensurate' with someone” Oh yes you can according to my OED v4.0.app
”It used to be we thought that people who went around correcting other people's grammar were just plain annoying. Now there's evidence they are actually ill, suffering from a type of obsessive-compulsive disorder/oppositional defiant disorder (OCD/ODD). Researchers are calling it Grammatical Pedantry Syndrome, or GPS.“ illinois.edu/blog/view/25/76120
“Grammar Pedantry Syndrome” is a form of OCD in which sufferers need to correct every grammatical error.” twitter.com/uberfacts/status/218151002707206145
It is a maxim of equity that “The law respects form less than substance, equity looks at intent, not at form“ ”The law does not concern itself with trifles“.
”if you want to demonstrate that”
I will continue to challenge those assertions I don't agree with, giving both the where and why for. While you do what you do best, which is when ever bested move the goal-posts.
More quotes, zero original thought. You can't solve the puzzle because it requires thinking for yourself rather than googling up what someone a million times smarter than you said.
Nov 08th, 2018 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@DT
Nov 08th, 2018 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Terry's “As I'm continually able to out-think you”,
“I use relevant quotes to show I'm not making it up like you”,
“when you're utterly beaten on an issue, 'muddy the waters' by trying to drag it off-topic”,
weren't plain stupid and ignorant, they'd be funny.... his use of 'commensurate' is a good example of his ignorance .........But I must admit, every time he argues with himself......he always WINS !!!
To take his dictionaries and quotes away from him, would be like tying an Italian's hands behind his back...he'd be unable to express himself. But Terry always has an excuse when he cocks-up....of late, it's been “I'm merely the messenger”, “I can't help it if the journalist makes a mistake”, “I don't have to go to the original source to know I'm right”......LOL
Your ex. of abba numbers is interesting....tried it out 'n it works. Neat.
DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
Nov 08th, 2018 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“zero original thought' By that I assume you believe your exchanges with the consummate liar pass as for thoughts. Hate to burst your bubble, how can they be, when the reliability is in question?
”A great many people mistake opinions for thoughts” Herbert V. Prochnow
As long as I'm able to prove my claim, then you're the one with the problem.
If what I post is true, especially when supported by those that have a particular knowledge, is more than sufficient. I'll leave you to contemplate the meaning of nothingness.
@JB
Nov 08th, 2018 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“To take his dictionaries and quotes away from him, would be like tying an Italian's hands behind his back...he'd be unable to express himself.”
Lol, so true. It's ironic that he quotes all those definitions from the dictionary, when he's the only one here who would benefit from studying it.
The abba numbers thing is pretty neat, I remember it because it was the first thing we ever had to prove at university - though far from the last. And Terry doesn't know what to make of a proof because it's completely outside his understanding. He thinks you 'prove' things by having an expert say it's true.
@DT
Nov 08th, 2018 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“He thinks you 'prove' things by having an expert say it's true”........or, when he believes it (because it suits his narrative).....the truth to Numb Nuts is whatever he wants it to be.
DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
Nov 08th, 2018 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“He thinks you 'prove' things by having an expert say it's true.”
“I doubt you can understand the magnitude of the stupidity in your statement” Robert Jordan
Anything I post, meets the accepted criteria of meeting my burden of proof. If you are unable to refute it means its true.
When have you ever done that? Thats right never. Game, set, and match
JB
“the truth .. is whatever he wants it to be.”
Says the one whom I have shown innumerable times of lying.
The only truth is what I prove, otherwise I'd be just like you.
@JB
Nov 08th, 2018 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The only truth is what I 'prove'”
Yup, you're right. That's another of his many problems: he doesn't understand that things are true or false in the real world, and that our arguments in here are trying to work out what is true. He thinks he can MAKE things true by saying them, or make them false by denying them. A lunatic idea.
DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
Nov 08th, 2018 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“That's another of his many problems: he doesn't understand that things are true or false in the real world,”
Your problem is you soon forget. You tried to claim that when JB didn't meet his burden of proof, that his claim couldn't be proved untrue.
Which I showed was utter bunkum.
“Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy; States of Affairs; First published Tue Mar 27, 2012
Philosophers connect sentences with various items, such as thoughts, facts and states of affairs. Thoughts are either true or false in an absolute sense, never both or neither.”
plato.stanford.edu/entries/states-of-affairs/
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