The second commercial flight from the Falkland Islands to a third country in the region with a stopover in an Argentine airport has been agreed, according to reports in Ambito Financiero, a Buenos Aires financial daily. Read full article
Once again the news breaks from Latin America first before our MLA's inform us. Talk about cloak and dagger stuff. Absolutely disgraceful. So Argentina was pushing for Buenos Aires but settled for a central stop over. Might as well been in BA given the volume of people that will travel from Cordoba. This is just another stepping stone to gain a further foot hold in the door. the 1970's are maybe not such a wild assumption after all. With this second flight we get to have Argentines staying pretty much on a regular basis because the first latam they are here for two week ends one on arrival one on departure . The second flight neatly coincides that those visitors will arrive a different week end and leave the following one. I am willing to bet many will now stay for two weeks coming on one flight and departing on the other. After all there are now two seperate places to land in Argentina. This is going to cause a lot of grief to the Islanders in time you can bet on that.
If the pressure has come from the MLA's then that is an issue for the Islanders. I am concerned that the pressure for this flight has come from the Foreign Office. Any information would be appreciated.
Arg naturally wanted BA- no surprises there. FI refused - so again no surprises- Arg says - right we will make you damn Brits PAY - Cordoba it will be and that is 2 hours extra Fuel Burn Time and Money YOU FI taxpayers will have to pay.
Our Govt walked into all this right from day 1. well they were led into it blind and dumb by their advisors - who just happened to be recommended to them by --- the FCO.
The Falklands government has been pushing for this for years - to improve tourism communications. At the moment the tourist is stuck for a week which is tricky if it's just an add on trip to a South American tour and passenger exchanges are laborious. They didn't want BA because there's just too much emotion involved for the Falklands people (it's not just about tourists). Cordoba is a compromise. FIG has got what it wanted if this story has a factual basis
Correctio - SouthernPenguin- FCO has got what it wanted. FIG has NOT they wanted Arg to agree sat flight making 2 return trips a month via RioGallegos instead and the SPaulo link none.-not surprisingly Arg refused as they-Arg - knew from day one when FIG said it preferred the SaopPaolo link - that they would have FIG by the short and curlies!. And FI public has very much NOT wanted this!
FIG contract officers yes- they want nice business class seats FI to Heathrow - paid by our taxes. And in a few years time they will be way anyway and not concerned what happens long term to the islands
FIG isn't so stupid they would think they could get that flight without a stopover in Argentina. Either they take it or leave it - up to them. This has been pushed by the majority of the Chamber of Commerce in the Falklands not contractors. Most Falklands people have not objected to it - just the gobby ones that always say they represent the people when they don't.
Right...:
The gobby ones that always say they represent the people when they don't..., and who always exaggerate anything South American or Engrish Superhead related...
- Like Kelper Timlander1 just above you..., that says that...: Cordoba will be a 2 hours extra Fuel Burn Time and Money YOU FI taxpayers will have to pay. when it will..., at worst..., be just a...: 45 minutes extra Fuel Burn Time and Money YOU FI taxpayers will have to pay...;-)
Enijau Chays..., we Argies seem to have gotten yet another connection to our nunca bien ponderadas islas...
Think, last time I measured- SP-Cordoba-MPA is close to 700miles more than SP-MPA.
Doing that in 45mins is a bit fast for a subsonic jet?
But agree- Arg has won hands down.
Mr. Timlander1..., I was talking about the distance difference between GRU-COR-MPA and GRU-BUE-MPA that..., as we all know..., is about 600 km...
Doing that in 45mins is just normal procedure for an Airbus 320...
Enijau..., lets give this humble Argie win some time...
Me money is that it won't be long before LATAM presents you Kelpers with the numbers that make a weekly Buenos Aires stopover the only rentable alternative...
Mr. Kelperabout...
Once again the news breaks from BUENOS AIRES first before your MLA's inform you...
Talk about normal stuff... Absolutely logical that relevant Malvinas Islands news break from the capital city of the country them windblown Islands belong to...
Don't you Think so...?
Mr. Timlander1...
As usual with all things Malvinas we will 'ave to wait and see...
Only sure thing is that we Argies are here to stay..., lets see about them Engrish...
Yupppp..., Rodge.
We Argies have been 'waiting' for 185 years ...
Engrishman Robert Clive won at Plassey in 1757 and the Bengalis got rid of you Engrish lot im 1947... That's a neat 190 years...
We Argies can easily wait 5 more years...
No sweat...
Bengal? Are the Falkland Islands noted for its revolutionary groups fighting for the overthrow of the British colonial Government? At least you seem to be acknowledging that it is up to the 'colonial' people to initiate the change. Somehow I suspect that'll take longer than 5 years.
Yupppp..., Bengal.., were me beloved Andaman Islands are..., noted for their numerous Engrish penal colonies where tens of thousands Indian revolutionaries fighting for the overthrow of the British Colonial Government were mercylessly killed... The Bengalis kicked you Colonial Engrish lot out of them Islands too...
Enijau..., as I said before...
We Argies are here for gooooooooood...You Engrish..., not so sure...
Them Kelper squatters better start smelling the bloody coffee...
Capisce...?
Can't see the Falkland islanders kicking us out Think. Argentines are quite impotent with regard to that revolution. Methinks you are confused - it's an age thing I hear.
More interestingly, the questions is ..... has it been decided, or hasn't it?
It wasn't the Andaman Islanders that kicked you Engrish lot out..., Rodge...
The process of kicking you Engrish lot out from Andaman was run from Mother India...
As the process of kicking you Engrish lot out from Malvinas is run from Mother Argentina...
The current Argie administratiion has already decided...
All indications are that the Engrish Crown has already decided...
Them Engrish Kelper squatters..., as loyal serves to the Crown...,will do the proper thing...
Thought we were talking about Bengal. So, your cunning plan consists of outlasting the British? You, who haven't been a coherent nation for 160 years yet? Outlasting the British?
Well, good luck with that Think. Sounds like an old man's wet dreams.
The proper thing? Sounds like there's an argument going on to me. Have to wait till the fat lady sings. Just a thought though - legal requirement to fly into the Falklands is a place to stay. All the islanders have to do, is limit the accommodation ;-)
If a half naked fakir could easily outlast that mighty Engrish Empire of the 1940's... we...,45.000.000 millions Argies..., stand a more than fair chance to outwear that very same Empire's pathetic remains during the 2020's...
About your accomodation apartheid scheme...
Try to propose it to sweet Celia from Puerto Estanley...
She would somehow manage to have her sweet, gentle dogs to rip your heart out...
A forthcoming pincer movement featuring Brazil from the North and the Chilenos from the West will easily overcome the idle Argies when total economic failure finally wrecks Argenzuala. Argies will never grasp the jewel of the South Atlantic as imagined in Twinkles wet dreams…. just too incompetent ahd lazy.
And..., as we speak... it seems that that once mighty British Empire is selling one of their last remaining pathetic dominions down the river for some filthy lucre...
All the media says Andamans. It's bizarre, North Sentinel Island is like a human nature reserve, which no one from outside can visit without potentially deadly results, and no one living there has the least idea which country owns it or knows anything about the outside world at all.
Mr. DemonTree...
All the media...?
I get it now...! You were referring to that recent Negrito/Yank episode at North Sentinel, Andamans...
I was talking about the Frederiksøerne further south..., were a couple of me Imperial colonialist ancestors were shot at by them angry natives...
To them Thiking Kelpers out there...
May just gave way... over Gib..., that is...
So much for”Working for the entire UK family”, including them disputed territories...
You..., me dear Kelper squatters..., better start smelling the bloody coffee and pick an honest dialogue with us Argies...
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Disclaimer & comment rulesOnce again the news breaks from Latin America first before our MLA's inform us. Talk about cloak and dagger stuff. Absolutely disgraceful. So Argentina was pushing for Buenos Aires but settled for a central stop over. Might as well been in BA given the volume of people that will travel from Cordoba. This is just another stepping stone to gain a further foot hold in the door. the 1970's are maybe not such a wild assumption after all. With this second flight we get to have Argentines staying pretty much on a regular basis because the first latam they are here for two week ends one on arrival one on departure . The second flight neatly coincides that those visitors will arrive a different week end and leave the following one. I am willing to bet many will now stay for two weeks coming on one flight and departing on the other. After all there are now two seperate places to land in Argentina. This is going to cause a lot of grief to the Islanders in time you can bet on that.
Nov 22nd, 2018 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0If the pressure has come from the MLA's then that is an issue for the Islanders. I am concerned that the pressure for this flight has come from the Foreign Office. Any information would be appreciated.
Nov 22nd, 2018 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Arg naturally wanted BA- no surprises there. FI refused - so again no surprises- Arg says - right we will make you damn Brits PAY - Cordoba it will be and that is 2 hours extra Fuel Burn Time and Money YOU FI taxpayers will have to pay.
Nov 22nd, 2018 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Our Govt walked into all this right from day 1. well they were led into it blind and dumb by their advisors - who just happened to be recommended to them by --- the FCO.
The Falklands government has been pushing for this for years - to improve tourism communications. At the moment the tourist is stuck for a week which is tricky if it's just an add on trip to a South American tour and passenger exchanges are laborious. They didn't want BA because there's just too much emotion involved for the Falklands people (it's not just about tourists). Cordoba is a compromise. FIG has got what it wanted if this story has a factual basis
Nov 22nd, 2018 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Correctio - SouthernPenguin- FCO has got what it wanted. FIG has NOT they wanted Arg to agree sat flight making 2 return trips a month via RioGallegos instead and the SPaulo link none.-not surprisingly Arg refused as they-Arg - knew from day one when FIG said it preferred the SaopPaolo link - that they would have FIG by the short and curlies!. And FI public has very much NOT wanted this!
Nov 22nd, 2018 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FIG contract officers yes- they want nice business class seats FI to Heathrow - paid by our taxes. And in a few years time they will be way anyway and not concerned what happens long term to the islands
FIG isn't so stupid they would think they could get that flight without a stopover in Argentina. Either they take it or leave it - up to them. This has been pushed by the majority of the Chamber of Commerce in the Falklands not contractors. Most Falklands people have not objected to it - just the gobby ones that always say they represent the people when they don't.
Nov 22nd, 2018 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Kelper just above...
Nov 22nd, 2018 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Right...:
The gobby ones that always say they represent the people when they don't..., and who always exaggerate anything South American or Engrish Superhead related...
- Like Kelper Timlander1 just above you..., that says that...: Cordoba will be a 2 hours extra Fuel Burn Time and Money YOU FI taxpayers will have to pay. when it will..., at worst..., be just a...: 45 minutes extra Fuel Burn Time and Money YOU FI taxpayers will have to pay...;-)
Enijau Chays..., we Argies seem to have gotten yet another connection to our nunca bien ponderadas islas...
Ahí nos vidrios..., lads & lasses...
Càllate Twinkle, no es asunto tuyo. Cabrear!
Nov 22nd, 2018 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Think, last time I measured- SP-Cordoba-MPA is close to 700miles more than SP-MPA.
Nov 22nd, 2018 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Doing that in 45mins is a bit fast for a subsonic jet?
But agree- Arg has won hands down.
Mr. Timlander1..., I was talking about the distance difference between GRU-COR-MPA and GRU-BUE-MPA that..., as we all know..., is about 600 km...
Nov 22nd, 2018 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Doing that in 45mins is just normal procedure for an Airbus 320...
Enijau..., lets give this humble Argie win some time...
Me money is that it won't be long before LATAM presents you Kelpers with the numbers that make a weekly Buenos Aires stopover the only rentable alternative...
Mr. Kelperabout...
Once again the news breaks from BUENOS AIRES first before your MLA's inform you...
Talk about normal stuff... Absolutely logical that relevant Malvinas Islands news break from the capital city of the country them windblown Islands belong to...
Don't you Think so...?
@Think
Nov 22nd, 2018 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I bet Jo Bloggs wishes he'd taken your bet back in 2016. ;)
Think- BUE would never be accepted from our side.General view here is better no 2nd flight rather than one that lands there.
Nov 22nd, 2018 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr. Timlander1...
Nov 22nd, 2018 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse -3As usual with all things Malvinas we will 'ave to wait and see...
Only sure thing is that we Argies are here to stay..., lets see about them Engrish...
Wait and see? Argentina has been 'waiting' for 185 years ..... it'll be waiting for another couple of centuries yet.
Nov 22nd, 2018 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And I wouldn't gloat too much Think, this deal appears unlikely to survive the next Peronist government. So little does.
Yupppp..., Rodge.
Nov 22nd, 2018 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse -3We Argies have been 'waiting' for 185 years ...
Engrishman Robert Clive won at Plassey in 1757 and the Bengalis got rid of you Engrish lot im 1947... That's a neat 190 years...
We Argies can easily wait 5 more years...
No sweat...
Bengal? Are the Falkland Islands noted for its revolutionary groups fighting for the overthrow of the British colonial Government? At least you seem to be acknowledging that it is up to the 'colonial' people to initiate the change. Somehow I suspect that'll take longer than 5 years.
Nov 23rd, 2018 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yupppp..., Bengal.., were me beloved Andaman Islands are..., noted for their numerous Engrish penal colonies where tens of thousands Indian revolutionaries fighting for the overthrow of the British Colonial Government were mercylessly killed... The Bengalis kicked you Colonial Engrish lot out of them Islands too...
Nov 23rd, 2018 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse -3Enijau..., as I said before...
We Argies are here for gooooooooood...You Engrish..., not so sure...
Them Kelper squatters better start smelling the bloody coffee...
Capisce...?
Can't see the Falkland islanders kicking us out Think. Argentines are quite impotent with regard to that revolution. Methinks you are confused - it's an age thing I hear.
Nov 23rd, 2018 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse +1More interestingly, the questions is ..... has it been decided, or hasn't it?
It wasn't the Andaman Islanders that kicked you Engrish lot out..., Rodge...
Nov 23rd, 2018 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse -3The process of kicking you Engrish lot out from Andaman was run from Mother India...
As the process of kicking you Engrish lot out from Malvinas is run from Mother Argentina...
The current Argie administratiion has already decided...
All indications are that the Engrish Crown has already decided...
Them Engrish Kelper squatters..., as loyal serves to the Crown...,will do the proper thing...
Thought we were talking about Bengal. So, your cunning plan consists of outlasting the British? You, who haven't been a coherent nation for 160 years yet? Outlasting the British?
Nov 23rd, 2018 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Well, good luck with that Think. Sounds like an old man's wet dreams.
The proper thing? Sounds like there's an argument going on to me. Have to wait till the fat lady sings. Just a thought though - legal requirement to fly into the Falklands is a place to stay. All the islanders have to do, is limit the accommodation ;-)
Yupppp..., laddie...
Nov 23rd, 2018 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse -3If a half naked fakir could easily outlast that mighty Engrish Empire of the 1940's... we...,45.000.000 millions Argies..., stand a more than fair chance to outwear that very same Empire's pathetic remains during the 2020's...
About your accomodation apartheid scheme...
Try to propose it to sweet Celia from Puerto Estanley...
She would somehow manage to have her sweet, gentle dogs to rip your heart out...
Chuckle..., chuckle...
A forthcoming pincer movement featuring Brazil from the North and the Chilenos from the West will easily overcome the idle Argies when total economic failure finally wrecks Argenzuala. Argies will never grasp the jewel of the South Atlantic as imagined in Twinkles wet dreams…. just too incompetent ahd lazy.
Nov 23rd, 2018 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse +1TWIMC...
Nov 23rd, 2018 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -3And..., as we speak... it seems that that once mighty British Empire is selling one of their last remaining pathetic dominions down the river for some filthy lucre...
Their Mediterranean jewel..., no less...
Chuckle..., chuckle...
The ramblings .... and dribblings (?)..... of an old.... what was that word? Faker?
Nov 23rd, 2018 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +1@Think
Nov 24th, 2018 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0You should be worrying about 'outwearing' the IMF.
And why are you comparing the Falklands to the Andaman Isles? Expecting the angry natives to shot you if you ever set foot there?
Those are not the Andamans..., laddie...
Nov 24th, 2018 - 01:01 am - Link - Report abuse -2Those are the Nicobars...
Know your Isles...
All the media says Andamans. It's bizarre, North Sentinel Island is like a human nature reserve, which no one from outside can visit without potentially deadly results, and no one living there has the least idea which country owns it or knows anything about the outside world at all.
Nov 24th, 2018 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@DT
Nov 24th, 2018 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0REF: a human nature reserve, which no one from outside can visit without potentially deadly results:
Sounds more like the favelas in RJ:
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qpElh6ifhcY/WpnuA2cMv1I/AAAAAAAAOOU/gHwylkN-Y5A_V8qGjIjtQ9UDGTAEa13LwCLcBGAs/s1600/Charge.jpg
Mr. DemonTree...
Nov 24th, 2018 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -1All the media...?
I get it now...! You were referring to that recent Negrito/Yank episode at North Sentinel, Andamans...
I was talking about the Frederiksøerne further south..., were a couple of me Imperial colonialist ancestors were shot at by them angry natives...
Yes. Evidently you should be careful with those insular colonialist adventures.
Nov 24th, 2018 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To them Thiking Kelpers out there...
Nov 24th, 2018 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse -2May just gave way... over Gib..., that is...
So much for”Working for the entire UK family”, including them disputed territories...
You..., me dear Kelper squatters..., better start smelling the bloody coffee and pick an honest dialogue with us Argies...
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