Current, former Argentine Defense Ministers exchange accusations in Congress over ARA San Juan

Wednesday, December 5th 2018 - 09:40 UTC

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Argentine Defense Minister Oscar Aguad Tuesday said the causes of the ARA San Juan submarine's fate are closer to become known, but he pointed a finger at faulty maintenance between 2008 and 2015 under President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner (CFK). Read full article

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Chicureo
As said before, the Argentine government and it's admiralty only have to look in the mirror to find the criminals responsible of the murder of its sailors.

“Traces of nobility, gentleness and courage persist in all people, do what we will to stamp out the trend. So, too, do those characteristics which are ugly. It is just unfortunate that in the clumsy hands of a cartoonist all traits become ridiculous, leading to a certain amount of self-conscious expostulation and the desire to join battle. There is no need to sally forth, for it remains true that those things which make us human are, curiously enough, always close at hand. Resolve then, that on this very ground, with small flags waving and tinny blasts on tiny trumpets, we shall meet the enemy, and not only may he be ours, he may be us. Forward!”

— Walt Kelly, June 1953
Dec 05th, 2018 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Enrique Massot
Minister Aguad insists in discharging himself of responsibility on the sub's fate by directing blame on a government that ceased to exist three years ago.

Experts and submariners are unanimous: submarines are carefully and repeatedly tested before going on operation, and in case of doubt that everything works -- and will work -- they won't go.

The responsibility of the chain of command was to ensure just that. However, several sub crew members did state concerns in private before sailing about the state of their ship.

Let's see what the investigation finds out.
Dec 05th, 2018 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
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Think
Hermanito Shileno...

You say...:
***“ As said before, the Argentine government and it's admiralty only have to look in the mirror to find the criminals responsible of the murder of its sailors.”***

I say...:
What you said before..., me dear milico ALLENDE la cordillera... was that the the criminals responsible of the murder of them 44 sailors was Mme. Cristina Elisabet Fernández Wilhelm de Kirchner and her civilian administration..., remember..?

Happy you that have an hermanote Argentino that keeps the record straight..., huhhhhh....?
Dec 05th, 2018 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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imoyaro
Freaking Hilarious. We've got Kamerad/Komrade Rique and Gauchito Drink trying to distract from the fact that the head of the Navy when they sunk had been a K appointee for “training.” The same clown who could not be bothered to call the Defense Minister when it happened. Unfortunately political appointees don't cut the mustard. Then of course, there's the fact that the Ks cut Thyssen loose by non payment, and then decided to do renovations on the ship, and instead of replacement, decided to refill the batteries. Big money for your friends, eh Kamerad/Komrade, but death for those militars, you and your girlfriend Gauchito Drink hate so much. Eh
Dec 06th, 2018 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Chicureo
Estimado THINK

Yes, Chile recognized the criminal slaughter of its soldiers in the Tragedy of Antuco and Argentina needs now to come clean with the Argentine public. It's common knowledge in the international defense industry that Argentine ships and aircraft are rarely properly maintained.

¡Saludos!
Dec 06th, 2018 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
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Hermanito Shileno...

For starters...,Antuco wasn't a “Tragedy”...

Antuco was a vile crime..., perpetrated by the sick milico mentality so prevalent in our Countries...
As the ARA San Juan “accident”... that was no other than sickening criminal negligence on the part of the Argie Navy's high command...

Having said the above..., I concord (in part) with you...
Argentina must indeed come clean with that sick milico mentality... preferably..., in my humble opinion by closing them down...
Dec 06th, 2018 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Chicureo
Estimado THINK

Oh I completely agree Antuco was an evil crime and that's why I used the term “slaughter.” History has mis-labeled it as a “Tragedy” just as the San Juan is as an “Accident.” To paraphrase Walt Kelley, “We have met the enemy, and he is us.”

As far as your navy, you obviously need an efficient costal defense fleet and I would hope, despite your personal feelings, that your government continue to maintain magnificent ARA Libertad as well as of course the splendid Círculo Militar.

We on the other hand of course need to remain ever vigilant against the incessant menacing aggression of the vociferous Armada Boliviana...
Dec 06th, 2018 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
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