MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Piñera asks for forgiveness and announces a social agenda to resolve inequality accumulated for decades
Chile’s President Sebastian Piñera announced an ambitious raft of measures on Tuesday, aiming to quell protests against his government with a guaranteed minimum wage, a hike in the state pension offering and the stabilization of electricity costs. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThe problem is that Pinera has no credibility!
Oct 23rd, 2019 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed, a significant victory for the Chilean people who took to the streets, and proof that the possibility to improve the lot of the majority of the citizens had been there all the time -- it just did not occur to the wealthy and the politicians who represent them to apply those measures.
Oct 23rd, 2019 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Too bad that president Piñera “came to his senses” after sending many of his country people to the cemetery or hospital in the belief that fear would make the citizens scramble for cover.
The events in Chile have seen the violent death of another neo-liberal myth.
Sr. Massot...
Oct 23rd, 2019 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What do you mean by saying that the weón Piñera “caim tu jis senses”...
IMHO..., the last week in Shile has been a looong anticipated and awaited inflection point..., one perfectly timed to aid our own project in Argentina...
Esto recién empieza..., cachaí...?
Saludos...
Think...
Think,
Oct 24th, 2019 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0You right!
My phrase is between quotation marks -- meaning Piñera did not at all come to his senses -- instead, he is trying to trick the Chileans and win time while keeping the troops in the street. While he said he heard the people “loud and clear,” he kept a threatening tone to those who “break the order.”
The “hands up” movement shows Chileans not longer tolerate their country's deep inequality -- and that may signal a change of direction for many Latin American countries, together with the election that will chase el gato away on Sunday.
Estimado Think
Oct 24th, 2019 - 03:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://youtu.be/DxM0vw5o3u8
I've shared many bottles of wine, and fiercely disagreed many times with Señor Villegas, ...but he and I felt about the same on Sunday evening.
This Wednesday evening, we both now know for certain this was a carefully planned exterior supported attack.
Estimado Shicuréo...
Oct 24th, 2019 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Firstly... You say...:
***” (We) both now know for certain this was a carefully planned exterior supported attack“***...???
I say...:
Affter carefully listening to your link of Mr. Villegas video..., in MY eyes..., an epitome of the Shilean Momio..., I understood that..., in HIS eyes..., the alledged ***”Carefully planned EXTERIOR supported attack (against Shile...?) “*** is being launched by the Mapuche Nation through their C.A.M. organization..., the ONLY ”organization” he mentions by name not fewer than three (3) times...!!!
https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinadora_Arauco-Malleco#targetText=La%20Coordinadora%20de%20Comunidades%20en,calificaci%C3%B3n%20de%20%22grupo%20terrorista%22.
I ask you directly...:
Do you really believe that all it takes to destroy our Shile querido are four “indios pata sucia”...?
Secondly....: I didn't have the pleasure of knowing Sr. Villegas prior your introduction and I
INSTANTLY & fiercely disagree with him about...:
His choice of hero to look him over the shoulder... (An assasin in smoking)
His watch choice... (A plastic Casio with violet iridiscence..., puajjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj)
Thirdly...: I must say that I much prefer the esthetics of the new “Momio Lights” of Shile..., as for example “La Tonka” in channel 13..., who has been on 24/7 on my spare Samsung table...;-)
Now..., If you excuse me..., I will return to watch the live exhumation of Momio Francisco Franco...
Vincit Omnia Veritas...
El Think...
Estimado THINK
Oct 24th, 2019 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Señor Villegas is a well known journalist and television personality with his own YouTube channel. I shared his Sunday's initial reaction of what was still a shock to all of us here.
The indigenous people here are obviously not the group behind the coordinated rapid severe assault disrupting my dear country.
He used to adhere to Marxism, but he's since become more of an intellectual socialist, which I believe is an oxymoron. He's also highly intelligent and is generally diametrically opposite to my political beliefs.
(Madam Lafarge and her circle of her French communist (but I repeat myself) friends introduced us. Although he has poor taste in watches, he does plays a challenging game of chess.
The December APEC summit will be in Chile and there are some individuals in Caracas now celebrating with Champagne...
The malicious simultaneously carefully planned rapid attack, paralyzed a city of 7 million people with a metro system that transported 6 million people a day. Use simple logic....
You do redeem yourself in a mutual appreciation of beautiful intellectual women...
The Mapuche Nation is an exterior force? I'm surprised either of you would want to suggest that, given the implications...
Oct 24th, 2019 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Estimado Shicuréo...
Oct 24th, 2019 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) Sr. Villegas may well have adhered to “Marxism”, “Trotskyism” or even “Gramscism” in a previous stage of his unruly and hairy life but..., judging by the content of the video of him you linked above..., it is more than evident that he currently deeply despises any ideas coming from the left of “ToribioMerinoCastrism”...
2) You make it easy to infer that..., in your wiev..., the origin of the “Alien Attack” our beloved Chile Is currently under..., originates from Planet “Veeh-neeh-zueeh-laah”...
- A mighty aggressive & superior Alien race with almost infinite ressources that..., as I type..., is directly responsible..., according to some “Glocal Press”..., of destabilizing the political & social processes of Colombia..., Ecuador..., Perú..., Bolivia..., Shile..., Argentina and Uruguay..., not forgetting the pollution of all the beaches of northern Brasil...
Use simple logic..., hermanito...
3) “Intellectual women”......................., PLOP... ;-)
“The malicious simultaneously carefully planned rapid attack, paralyzed a city of 7 million people with a metro system that transported 6 million people a day. Use simple logic....”
Oct 24th, 2019 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My simple logic tells me that the Vz government is not famous for its careful and successful planning. Losing a ship full of oil, on the other hand, seems like something they'd be perfectly capable of.
”The malicious simultaneously carefully planned rapid attack, paralyzed a city of 7 million people with a metro system that transported 6 million people a day. Use simple logic....”
Oct 24th, 2019 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My simple logic tells me that many a small but motivated fringe group of youths (with a conspicuous predilection for black clothes that a couple of me grandsons sporadically frequent...,) are more than perfectly capable of planning rapid, simultaneous & effective actions that can paralyze any city whose cops don't shoot to kill...
France's May 68 was triggered by about 5,000 of sorts..., if I may remind you gentlemen...
Last week our Extinction Rebellion protesters failed to shut down a single airport. Perhaps we should send them to Caracas for training?
Oct 24th, 2019 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0DemonTree
Oct 24th, 2019 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0¡Saludos from Chile! I hope all is well with you.
Unfortunately THINK has missed the big picture...
In the growing opinion of several well informed people here, is there are several foreign “dark hands” (Definitely encouraged by Maduro and the Cuban government) that were/are involved in a coordinated simultaneous attack to cause complete disruption of the Piñera presidency, in part because Chile will be hosting the APEC in December. (Both Trump and Xi will be attending.)
Piñera has been highly critical of Maduro in Venezuela and it makes sense he would support embarrassing the “successful Chile model” that has been praised internationally.
Fernando Villegas is somewhat like of the “Jeremy Corbyn political mindset” of Chile, which is obviously opposite of mine. Fernando's wife, Ivette is a francophone conspirator of Madam Lafarge... It's a mystery to everyone that knows us, how we both have such charming and attractive partners...
https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Villegas
Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....
Oct 24th, 2019 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Dark Cuban hand over Shile..., again...!
What the fkuck are you waiting for..., Weones...?
Prepare the Stadion at Ñuñoa..! Bomb La Moneda...!
Freaking Veeh-neeh-zueeh-laahn Aliens...! They are everywhere...!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JuxIfdsz0oc
Only a few agents sponsored by our enemy have incited civil discourse that will not be satisfied by concessions now being offered. The instigators goal is continuing chaos to humiliate the government...
Oct 24th, 2019 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Un fósforo quemó un bosque... and the economic losses are far worse than the earthquake of 2010.
Sr. Shicuréo...
Oct 24th, 2019 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well..., at least you do spell “fósforo” correctly...
Not like your “Ex-Marxist” friend divented “Momio Deluxe” that says “foforo” all to many times...
There is only one thing in life that annoys me more than an Ex-Marxist divented Momio....
That's an Ex-Marxist divented Momio, jumelée with a charming and attractive socialist partner...
À bientôt
@DT
Oct 24th, 2019 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe the Venezuelan government is unable to plan thing well. However if Cuban intel is involved, that's certainly a factor as they are renowned for their insurrection capabilities.
@Chicureo
I was certain last Saturday that besides civil unrest there was some kind of force helping bring chaos about. If that is the case I now wonder what Chile's intelligence was doing in the meantime. I'm having a hard time trying to justify that they didn't see it coming. The Cubans might just be good but not at all *that* good.
TWIMC...
Oct 25th, 2019 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Having followed quite closely the current Shilean crisis during a whole week and taking due note of the numerous and repeated PUBLIC APOLOGIES of almost all Shilean political leaders to their people.., I notice with great satisfaction that the Shilean Neo-Liberal Nomenklatura is finally adopting and following the example of one of the geatest politicians of our time....:
JUAN DOMINGO PERdON...!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9bPLgiDgk9E
Estimado THINK
Oct 25th, 2019 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you change his accent, he'd sound EXACTLY like most of the politicians in the PR, DC, UDI and RN parties here. Hilarious, but sadly true.
By the way..., me dear milico Shicureo...
Oct 25th, 2019 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- Having followed quite closely la Tonka and the current Shilean crisis during a whole week..., I could not but notice the humonguos numbers of “Corruption Scandals” a.k.a. “Negociados” that are emerging all over..., seemingly each and every time a Cabro Chico picks up a stone to throw against a Guanaco...
- Overprices of 400% - 600% - 1.000% and more on everything from medicines to road tolls..., from electric bulbs to condoms seem to be the Shilean business norm...
- Do you..., by any chance..., remember..., eons ago..., our conversations about our respective Countries “Cultural” differences regarding corruption...,weon...?
You even dusted off your Grange German and used the word “Schadenfreude” with...., well..., Schadenfreude...
- Well... I am beginning to Think that the only thing Shile is missing to reach, equal or even surpass Argentina's Wuthering Heights.........., is adopting our pleasant-sounding accent... ;-)))
Estimado THINK
Oct 25th, 2019 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Respectfully, an Argentine “calling the kettle black.”
Saying that, the people here have legitimate grievances that has been ignored too long. Protests unfortunately got completely out of control and although the more prosperous segment of the populace will pay significantly higher taxes; the poorer class will be hurt even more.
Hopefully, pensions, education and health care problems will be resolved. Our national accent however will continue to be a disgrace.
Estimau miliquillo...
Oct 25th, 2019 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
***“ An Argentine “calling the kettle black.” ”***
I say...:
Despierte..., don Cuasimodo..., despierte...!
Ahhhhhhhhhhh..., by the way..., one of the +÷ OK journalistic programmes here in Argentina sended this yesterday on national television... It seems they have located some of those...: ***“ few Cuban agents sponsored by your enemy that have incited civil discourse that will not be satisfied by concessions now being offered. Those instigators goal is continuing chaos to humiliate the government..”*** of yours...:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ntPnncbZGLw
Chicureo
Oct 25th, 2019 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Saying that, the people here have legitimate grievances that has been ignored too long.”
I was going to say the same thing: however the protests started, the fact they have continued and spread shows there were real problems and grievances that needed to be addressed. It's not much use a country getting richer if the majority of people don't benefit.
El Shicuréo..., yesterday...:
Oct 25th, 2019 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0***”In the growing opinion of several well informed people here, is there are several foreign “dark hands” (Definitely encouraged by Maduro and the Cuban government)”***
El Think..., today...:
In the humble opinion of this poorly informed Patagonian here, there are, right now ~1,200,000 Shileans demonstrating in Santiago..!! (Definitely encouraged by their teen kiddos that showed the way...)
It's the result of some very strategically placed fires in an extremely dry forest.
Oct 26th, 2019 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Our entire 2019 GDP has been wiped out...
Shicuréo...
Oct 26th, 2019 - 04:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0- Do you..., by any chance..., remember..., eons ago..., our conversations about our respective Countries “Cultural” differences...?
You rightly said then..., that we Argies were a bunch of “llorones” and that we loved to BLAME OTHERS FOR OUR MISERIES..., remember...?
I still Think we Argies are better than you Shilenos at crying...
But..., who knows for how long...
Lol at 'llorones'. Never heard that term before but it's so true.
Oct 26th, 2019 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chicureo, how is it possible for a whole year's GDP to be wiped out? And will Piñera (be able to) implement all these changes he's promised? It's sort of ironic that a conservative president has been the one to promise all these social programs.
Mr. DemonTree...
Oct 26th, 2019 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0NOTHING wrong being a “Llorona”
Watch and learn...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oVUmQZdLAfQ
Sr. Shicureo....
Stop staring at La Lila...!
You better watch the loooong interview Mme. Defarge's French-Shilean Manchurian candidate gave on Argie television yesterday evening...
C'est une délicatesse...!
Sitting around moaning and blaming other people for your problems won't fix anything. It's just feeble.
Oct 26th, 2019 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't be such a hard WASP Macho..., laddie...
Oct 26th, 2019 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Try to get more in touch with your feminine side...
Chuckle..., chuckle
DemonTree
Oct 26th, 2019 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Piñera has to make serious concessions in order to return to normalcy. The expectations from someone I personally know at the Central Bank is we will see a dramatic turn in the real net GDP based on the effects of significant national infrastructure damage, public and private, combined with the deminished worker productivity and earnings. Add that to an anticipated worldwide economic downturn (excepting the USA) with lower earnings from copper (which Chile directly and indirectly through taxes receives); combined with a dramatic budget deficit in subsidizing all the economic concessions by the President --- will result in a near 0% net GDP.
Shicureo...
Oct 26th, 2019 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You said above...:
***“Our entire 2019 GDP has been wiped out”***
I Think you ment to say...:
***“Our entire 2019 GDP ***”GROWTH“***has been wiped out”***
There is a slight difference of ~97% between those two concepts...
Good thing..., you pursued a career in the militay..., not in economics...
Speaking about the military... Hace you seen what your Pacos comrades in arms did yesterday...?
Our entire 2019 GDP has been wiped out..
Estimado THINK
Oct 26th, 2019 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Touché, le diable est dans les détails. Which Madam Lafarge tells me no one says in français, but is highly appropriate as I'm responding to le diable himself...
DemonTree
As the Beelzebub of Chubut corrects me, I was referring to my country's GDP growth, which was successfully anemic prior to our social unrest. Refer to the color chart and realize our color will remain light green, instead of dark green as we were projected to achieve in 2022.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_real_GDP_growth_rate#/media/File%3ACountries_by_Real_GDP_Growth_Rate_(2017).svg
The denial displayed by a Chilean commentator in this forum shows a typical reaction of supporters of inequality.
Oct 26th, 2019 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To attribute -- without proof -- this mobilization of Chileans descending to the streets in defiance of water cannons, tear gas, arrests and beatings that have so far left at least 18 dead to some kind of international conspiracy borders on ridicule.
Such blatant denial echoes that of president Piñera at the beginning of the demonstrations, when he stated that “we are at war with a powerful enemy,” and as seven people laid dead called demonstrators “criminals” on a mission to “destroy our democracy” with a high degree of “organizational logistic.” Come on.
What Chile displays now with clarity is the deep disconnection -- and contempt -- that the Latin American elites have for ordinary citizens. Obscenely wealthy individuals fear the masses and that same prompts their first reflexes -- an immediate recourse to violence when those same citizens express their discontent.
Piñera's initial defiance contrasts with his later requests for forgiveness assorted with the latest firing of his cabinet -- while keeping the troops on the streets -- which shows a man trying to hang on to a waning power -- while the citizens appear to have none of that.
The Chilean events, connected to those in Ecuador, Brazil and Argentina may signal the beginning of the end of a powerful counter offensive based on lawfare and mainstream media instead of military coups to stave off popular options loosely defined as populists.
Perhaps Latin America may, at long last, shake off foreign powers and backward elites to enter the 21st. century.
Lower GDP growth seems much more plausible, though still unfortunate. It's a shame that certain countries are screwing with international trade and messing up the economy for the rest of the world.
Oct 26th, 2019 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think
Cry if you want to, but I'll pass, thanks. Also, I'm not a WASP. Not even Chicureo qualifies.
EM
Latin America needs to shake off foreign powers, but suspecting foreign interference in demonstrations is ridiculous? Seems a tad contradictory...
Dear Sr. Massot...
Oct 26th, 2019 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- As Sr. Sicuréos' humble connational prophesied instants before his end...:
***“SE ABRIRÁN LAS GRANDES ALAMEDAS por donde pase el hombre libre, para construir una sociedad mejor.”***
Well..., it happened yesterday..., those ALAMEDA pictures are imprinted in our memory...
- As one of my Nordic Co-Thinkers so truly said some hundred years ago...:
“A thousand words leave not the same deep impression as does a single deed.”
.... Herewith a picture of what..., “Some Beasts”..., (as Mikis Theodorakisso fittingly called the Chilean military in his “Canto General”) did yesterday evening against the dignity of ALL Chileans...
https://s.france24.com/media/display/286d5ea4-f815-11e9-b860-005056bf87d6/w:1240/p:16x9/4f5139ec48dc022890ffc90a4034757f659e2e46.jpg
Milicos culiaos...
EM
Oct 26th, 2019 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Forgot to say: those 7 people who lay dead when Piñera called the protesters criminals were all killed by the protesters themselves, were they not? Now the protests have widened and become more peaceful, but they began with violence. The President's words were foolish, but looting and arson are crimes, no? Let alone murder.
To be a good Besserwisser..., one has to inform oneself..., not embarrass onself..., laddie...
Oct 26th, 2019 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please inform yourself...:
https://www.eldinamo.cl/nacional/2019/10/24/todo-lo-que-se-sabe-de-los-19-muertos-en-manifestaciones-chile-3/
DemonTree
Oct 27th, 2019 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0I believe good social change will occur to address some of the economic inequality in my country, but I'm aware that Nicolas Maduro is celebrating with Champagne.
Several were killed by the police or soldiers, but several others were definitely killed by/due the anarchists causing the destruction. Bad things happen to anyone that in almost any country when heavy stones and Molotov cocktails are thrown against authorities.
Our current soldiers were never trained, nor adaptable for sustained riot control. It's a good thing that they've maintained self control, despite being pushed to the limit.
It is good that they are returning to bases and curfew is being, for the most areas, lifted. Chileans are good decent people, so are the majority of immigrants, but there are moments when some become animals. (Looting for plasma TVs is greed, setting fire to the building is criminal, but arson of a building with people inside is truly evil.)
As far as Trump Economic Nationalism, it seems to be working exceptionally well at the cost of upending world trade. Whomever your next PM is, whether it's Boris or ... will have to learn to coexist in a new trade alliance. The EU will also. Canada is nearly totally screwed and Mexico is hostage to tariffs. (Trump will win the 2020 election by a landslide.)
Meanwhile, we've planted another 23 hectares of avocados as international demand is exceptionally good. We just need to pay a higher tax rate and hire more security. As always, the disadvantaged are the real losers.
DT
Oct 27th, 2019 - 04:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The President's words were foolish, but looting and arson are crimes, no? Let alone murder.”
DT: I prefer to think you know little about street demonstrations, the ways security forces use, and the role of provocateurs. Governments' information must be used with caution as you don't always learn through them what really happened.
I love Chicureo's piece, talking about the hectares of avocados they planted.
“We just need to pay a higher tax rate and hire more security,” he said, and touched different topics including his country people's qualities and the dangers of using stones and Molotov cocktails.
Now, that is really useful information!
Chicureo
Oct 27th, 2019 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0I knew the security services had killed people since then, but I did not know the army was never trained in riot control. That makes Piñera's decision to send them worse than irresponsible. It's lucky things haven't gone even more badly.
I hope this can be the end of the violence and Chile will resolve the underlying issues that are clearly of long standing. And also that next time there are protests, the authorities learn from this and deal with them in a more constructive manner.
As for Trump, you know I don't agree with you (nor have I noticed Canada having any particular problems). But even taking your view, I find it odd to say the least, to admire a foreign leader for enriching their country at the expense of your own, and of you personally. But then, if you are planting more avocados for export, you can't be seriously anticipating a world economic downturn anyway.
EM
Provocateurs? Sounds like your views are not so far from Chicureo's after all. While he sees the hand of Venezuelan (or Cuban) agents in planning the protests, you think the Chilean services sent their own agents to encourage looting supermarkets and setting fire to buses? In the circumstances, that seems even more unlikely.
Estimado Sr. Massot...
Oct 27th, 2019 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good riposte to Mr. DemonTree...
- I must admit that the “Devils Advocate” role he seems to asume in here over fundamental South-American affairs..., based mostly on his preconcepts and a ultra-thin layer of tendentious main stream information ..., does slightly annoy me...
Now to Sr. Shicuréo..., our resident MOMIO..., with an ultra-thin veneer of “Residente” from “Calle13”
In short..., we both know that he is a worthy & typical representative of our Latin-America top 10%...
I find his particular dichotomous travel through life interesting...
From an aspirational Naval Academy cadet driving a russian Lada during Pinochet's regime...
To a retired Naval Captain enjoying ALL the state sponsored social benefits denied to the rest of Shile...
Currently..., I sense his haughty words about “just paying some more taxes..., hire more security and his many hectares of avocado trees” (that consume ~1,000 liters of water per unit x day?.., btw) as his looming certainty that his current demon of greed Ethical Codex (Codigo de Aguas -República de Shile) will soon be replaced by a much more Christian one...
To end..., a good read about Shiles' current affairs written by an Argie top 10%er..
https://www.pagina12.com.ar/227572-chile-y-el-cambio-climatico
Saludos...
Think...
DemonTree
Oct 27th, 2019 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.imf.org/en/Countries/CHL
Reflects Chile before our domestic difficulties. Other than dramatically hurting China (Our biggest export market.) Chile is not threatened by the worldwide trade reset policies of the Trump administration because of our longstanding open market with them.) Especially our agricultural exports as they are harvested counter-season to theirs.
As USA consumers are realizing higher net incomes, demand for healthy highly nutritional and exceptionally delicious Hass variety avocados will continue to increase. As our older table grape vineyards are slowly being changed over to avocado orchards, we enjoy higher profits from less labor intense production and achieve substantially greater profits.
Those having the good judgement in realizing the value of purchasing water rights are seeing remarkable exponential value for their investment. As I mentioned in a long ago post, my father and uncle convinced our family to purchase those rights back in the late 1970's through the 1980's at nominal cost.
As Michelle Bachelet decided during her second Presidential term to immigrate thousands of unskilled Haitians to my country, there is an excess of agricultural seasonal low cost farm workers available for harvesting. (The traditional campesinos here are obviously furious about this.)
The Allende socialist reforma agraria forced our family to relocate our farming to marginal undesirable hillsides and change crops to vineyards resulting in obtaining water rights. (We had to borrow the money as we were nearly broke.)
The socialist minded Bachelet government insured we will continue to have an excellent supply of low cost seasonal workers to harvest with. Despite my personal feelings, socialist policies have been extremely beneficial to my family.
I'm happy to see our country seriously address some social inequality issues, but THINK will tell you, things never really change. It's a Latin mindset...
¡Saludos!
Mr. Demontree... You say to Sr.Massot...:
Oct 27th, 2019 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0***“Provocateurs? Sounds like your views are not so far from Chicureo's”***
I say...:
Yupppppp...., “Agents Provocateurs”...like these ones...., filmed this week during a Chile support demo in Buenos Aires...:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S0w2Jw1q8fI
- What do you Think the three young girls crouching right behind the police line are...
A) Police's Daughters...?
B) Police's Missuses...?
C) Police's Agent Provocateurs...?
- What do you Think those five serious looking civilians walking behind the police line are...?
A) Police's sons...?
B) Police's bodyguards ...?
C) Police's Agents provocateurs...?
Sr. Shicuréo, my esteemed shrewd latifundista...
You know in your own flesh that many things changed...
Take..., for example..., our traditional...: “Droit de Dépucelage”...
In this modern, globalized times..., it ain't even no “Droit” no more...
One can't brag with it anymore..., let alone invite some friends..., without risking a scandal...!
Pero no te preocupeí hermanito..., los Shicuréos de este mundo..., siempre van a tener un palenque pá rascarse...
Now..., if you excuse me..., I have two presidential elections to follow...
Buén Domingo
DemonTree
Oct 27th, 2019 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Conversing with THINK is sort of like following the series of letters from the demon Uncle Screwtape to his nephew Wormwood. He cunningly mixes truth, fiction and his questionable ideology that's mildly annoying. ¿...“retired Captain”...?
As I mentioned, our previous socialist President Bachelet encouraged a massive immigration of unskilled functionally illiterate Haitians that have provided ample labor for seasonal agricultural harvests.
https://www.voanews.com/americas/waves-migrants-head-chile-putting-strain-services
The best metrics are by harvest yield. In our case, it's less than 430 liters per kilo harvested. This is achieved with continuous monitoring of the soil moisture, tree transpiration rate and advanced drip irrigation delivery technology. (A comparison for yields is corn that was my family's traditional cash crop that requires 625 liters per kilo.)
If that sounds a lot of water, do a quick search on what it requires to produce a kilo of beef... It will really surprise you!
I should remind Uncle THINKtape, we are planting carbon-dioxide absorbing forests to reduce our carbon footprint. Even our perimeter security illumination is now 100% solar.
Avocados are a great source of vitamins C, E, K, and B-6, as well as riboflavin, niacin, folate, pantothenic acid, magnesium, and potassium. They also provide lutein, beta-carotene, and omega-3 fatty acids. What's most important is that they're delicious!
I Think you deserved the promotion..., Captain...
Oct 27th, 2019 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By the way..., cutting the chit-chat and talking weighty facts about producing delicious Avocados...:
... - “Guess” which of the following 9 top Avocado producing countries in the World is the only one doing so in very dry areas under heavy irrigation..., depriving of indispensable water the populations down river...?
1 Mexico ?
2 Dominican Republic ?
3 Perú ?
4 Indonesia ?
5 Colombia ?
6 Brazil ?
7 Kenya ?
8 Venezuela ?
9 Chile ? Bingo!!!
Estimado THINKtape
Oct 27th, 2019 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought you were intensely focused on the elections...
Peru is our only competition. They also have part of their production in semi-arid areas that require careful water stewardship. We are only positively contributing to our society with needed employment for the unskilled and poorly educated.
“I note what you say about guiding our patient's reading and taking care that he sees a good deal of his materialist friend. But are you not being a trifle naif? It sounds as if you supposed that argument was the way to keep him out of the Enemy's clutches. That might have been so if he had lived a few centuries earlier. At that time the humans still knew pretty well when a thing was proved and when it was not; and if it was proved they really believed it. They still connected thinking with doing and were prepared to alter their way of life as the result of a chain of reasoning. But what with the weekly press and other such weapons we have largely altered that. Your man has been accustomed, ever since he was a boy, to have a dozen incompatible philosophies dancing about together inside his head.”
Preface to The Screwtape Letters ~ C.S. Lewis
I always have a couple of seconds to play simultaneous mindchess with my favourite (and only) Momio Shileno....
Oct 27th, 2019 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0***”Your man has been accustomed, ever since he was a boy, to have a dozen incompatible philosophies dancing about together inside his head.”*** is whites' move...
- You cadets have been accustomed, ever since you were cuasi-boys to have a unitarian ideology marching uncontested under your Pickelhaubers... is black's...
Estimado THINK
Oct 27th, 2019 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0White is frightened to expose his tenuous position to a black opponent, but moves a pawn forward:
“Readers are advised to remember that the devil is a liar.”
Am I a devil in your Shilean milico brown eyes because you don't have arguments..., or just because I'm Argentinean...?
Oct 27th, 2019 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Estimado THINK
Oct 27th, 2019 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing personal, nor national...
You said we're playing mindchess? In chess I play to obliterate my opponent and therefore play aggressively. I was simply repeating the wise advice of Screwtape...
Congratulations I assume in order... Both elections seem favorable to your expectations, correct?
¡Saludos!
Chicureo
Oct 27th, 2019 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hurting your largest export market isn't good for Chile, and the US also pulled out of the TPP deal. I know your government is a big fan of trade deals, but left was very opposed to this one, and perhaps you agreed with them?
Also, I had thought you said you exported a lot of avocados to Europe, but maybe I am misremembering. They're nutritious and can be tasty, but here they're an expensive import, exactly the sort of thing people would cut back in a recession. As for buying water rights, it was clearly a wise decision for your family, but IMO a very foolish one on your government's part to sell a renewable resource for a one time fee.
Re Think, I'm certainly not an advocate for the Diabolus chubutensis.
Think
Well done; much better finding evidence rather than complaining. But what are those people following the police intending to do? I did happen to see a demonstration in Argentina, but the police were behind walls and the water cannons unused. And I don't believe our riot police exactly act like their Argie equivalents.
But you've been saying all along these protests were organised by teenagers. Do you really believe in either Venezuelans or government agents?
EM
What I was thinking of was police starting violence by eg firing tear gas at peaceful protesters, which is common enough. But the deaths I read about in Chile did not happen in that sort of situation, most were killed in fires set by looters, and why and how would any government encourage that? Plus, a government might want to discredit ongoing peaceful protests by associating them with violence, but violent protests that turn peaceful are the opposite of that pattern. Those are some of the reasons I'm sceptical of your suggestion.
All three elections seem favorable to my expectations..., correct...
Oct 27th, 2019 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0( You forgot our hermanitos Bolivianos...)
Estimado THINK
Oct 28th, 2019 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was thinking they were performing a circus in Bolivia...
Again my congratulations to you, but my condolencias for your new Presidente...
DemonTree
Despite what you may think, average net incomes in the USA have risen dramatically. In a little over two years, an increase over $5k per middle-class household and unemployment is at a 50 year low. (African-American and Hispanic unemployment the lowest in history.)
The TPP was determined to be too accommodating to the other countries. The new Trump trade policy is USA first. His trade negotiators are notoriously brutal.
Our UK export program remains fantastic, with my daughter recently obtaining a TESCO NURTURE Gold certification for our product. (Extremely difficult to achieve.) The USA however we see almost an unlimited demand. We still produce wine and table grapes, but our vineyards are slowly being converted.
Throughout most Western countries countries the world, water rights are considered private property. The Chilean government does however has the right to fairly proportionally adjust the amount of water we are able to use.
You do know that soil itself is a “renewable resource”? Also, owners have to pay property taxes on land as well as water rights. Nothing is truly free...
Finally, I was suggesting Diabolus chubutensis was erroneously addressing you as his nephew...
Shicuréo...
Oct 28th, 2019 - 02:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0If they are performing a circus in Bolivia.nowadays..., it is one at Cirque du Soleil level...
My Shile querido..., on the other hand..., is struggling today keeping on Tachuela levels...
Wasn't you that recently said that things do not change in Latinamerica...?
How wrong can one be...
Capisce...?
Estimado THINK
Oct 28th, 2019 - 03:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sincerely, we're seeing just a lot of “dust and feathers” because although I hope to see more social equality for our continent - truthfully, in my sad opinion, very little changes.
DemonTree
I need to clarify an earlier post: “our largest export customer” was in reference to my country, Chile's copper...
My family's largest export customer is the United States, followed by the UK.
I can see your confusion as China does import a large amount of Chilean fruit, but nothing from my family.
Sr. Shicuréo...
Oct 28th, 2019 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Circus” and “Dust and Feathers” is your Gatopardistic view of today situation..., huhhhh...?
You may of course be right but..., in me humble opinion...:
- Bolivias current dust and feathers circus show is putting a lot more charque & chuño in the Bolivian “Circus Animals” stew..., every day during the last fifteen years...
- Chiles current dust and feathers circus show..., on the other hand has..., as late as yesterday evening..., let their Dompteurs mistreat in public some ~100,000 tame and docil Valdivian civilian “Circus Animals”...
That ain't not the way to manage a Circus no more...., milico...
Capisce...?
Like all circus events, the the eager enthusiastic crowds dwindle and lose interest. The tents fold and the gypsey caravan moves on to another village to again preform their same act...
Oct 28th, 2019 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ahhhhhhhhhhh.....
Oct 28th, 2019 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0***“A gypsy caravan moving on to another place to again preform their same act...”***...
How romantic...!
Is it that way..., in the opinion of your well informed Shilean sources ..., that the several foreign “dark hands”..., definitely encouraged by Maduro and the Cuban government that were involved in a coordinated simultaneous attack to cause complete disruption of the Piñera presidency escaped the implacable iron fist of the Carabineros...?
I Think they were “ Beamed up by Scotty”...
Estimado THINK
Oct 28th, 2019 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually my dear 3D chess playing opponent, there is conclusive Intel about the well coordinated attack which was planned in advance. This from data gathered from social media messages. Chemical residue analysis from the metro arson sites indicate the same type of chemical accelerant was used.
Anyway, I sincerely wish your nation success with new leadership.
You got me there..., milico...!
Oct 28th, 2019 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Evidently..., your PDI can more than penetrate cabras chicas with their rifle barrels..
It is indeed correct..., that the same type of chemical accelerant was used almost everywhere under the riots...
An accelerant not found in nature as a free compound, as a matter of fact..., mostly composed of isooctane, butane, 3-ethyltoluene and methyl tert-butyl ether...
I Think some rotos call it “93”..., the cheapest gasoline in Shile...
Speaking about data gathered from social media messages..., here is some almost conclusive Intel about Argentinean infiltrators participation in the well coordinated attack against our beloved Shile I just found on the Internet.:
https://www.cotizacion.co/10-bencineras-mas-baratas-en-Santiago/#argentinos
Thanks for your good wishes...
Chicureo
Oct 28th, 2019 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The TPP was determined to be too accommodating to the other countries.”
Nice use of the passive voice there. ;) If it was really too accommodating then Chile missed out on a great deal, and if it wasn't then all the countries missed out on a good one. Maybe your negotiators aren't brutal enough?
Re income and employment, those stats are all fake anyway; Trump said so. And although I wish Americans well in general, I'm a lot more interested in their effect on the rest of the world than what they do at home.
The UK isn't a good model for water rights, being a famously damp place (though there have been shortages in the last few years due to climate change). Given the amount available is likely to fall in Chile, too, it may not be sustainable to keep growing such thirsty crops in much of the country. Do grapes need as much water as avocados? As for land ownership, that is an even more contentious topic.
Re the Chubutean Devil, you were referring to The Screwtape Letters? I've never read it, but I don't think our friend would make a good mentor.
Shicuréo...
Oct 28th, 2019 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Will this lieutenant end as brigadier general Bachelet...?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Elgey6WLt7Y
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Estimado THINK
Oct 29th, 2019 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Using the military to enforce a society is unsustainable. (We learned that in the '70s and '80's.) Anarchy in a democratic progressive society isn't sustainable either.
DemonTree
I certainly do not question your intelligence, but I was recently in Philadelphia and Miami. The USA economy is booming right now and the employment statistics are real.
Trump uses an unorthodox ruthless Machiavellian philosophy and eschewed the TPP because he wanted to unilaterally change China trade. He doesn't play fairly.
I'll make three predictions: The US economy will continue to boom. - Trump again will win the 2020 Presidential election. - Trump's next objective (after the China and USMCA negotiations) is the EU and it will not be a friendly one.
Cmdr. Shicuréo...
Oct 29th, 2019 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0You said above that you...: ***“Play to obliterate your opponent and therefore play aggressively”***
Well..., I can't avoid noticing that you are just pushing your pawns indolently forwards..., without developing any piece...
You wouldn't be trying to pull a “Diemer” on me..., would you...?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r-xTunK0WcY
Chicureo
Oct 29th, 2019 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wouldn't question your intelligence, but you do know China wasn't in the TPP? One of the US's main goals in pushing it was to increase their support and influence in China's neighbours, as China has been busy increasing theirs in the Americas and around the world. They've gone hard into the economic imperialism business and even several countries in Europe have now embraced China's belt and road initiative. Look at how their influence extends into Hollywood and the recent free speech scandal with the NBA. Western countries are afraid to criticise China's horrible human rights record and even as Trump attacks them, they're profiting from the division his other policies caused. Making an enemy of everyone at once does not exactly scream Machiavellian.
IMO if anything limits China's expansion now it will not be Trump or any other leader, but a decision they made 40 years ago: the one child policy. It's really gonna bite economically as the huge older generation retires leaving a much smaller one working.
Anyway, I'm glad your billionaire businessman president is not too 'brutal'. Sending the army into the streets could already have turned out a lot worse.
Mr. DemonTree..., laddie...
Oct 29th, 2019 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'll put it in easily digestible Engrish modern & popular literary terms so you may understand...
Almost nobody did Think in the beginning that Severus Snape would make a good mentor...
But we all live and learn...
Capisce...?
Snape was definitely a bad mentor. Excellent double agent, though.
Oct 29th, 2019 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Go figure...
Oct 29th, 2019 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0J.K.Rowling was too advanced for you..., boy...
You obviously haven't read enough literary criticism. The size of the fandom for those books was insane and there are good, thoughtful essays online about any aspect you can think of.
Oct 29th, 2019 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pfffft...
Oct 29th, 2019 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Estimado THINK and DemonTree
Oct 29th, 2019 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More unwelcome and unforgivable arson last night. APEC is being reconsidered.
Yes, China was not one of the 12 countries. (I personally was a fan of the TPP as it would have been VERY beneficial to my country.) You miss however why the US strategic 180degree change on the agreement was all about China.
As I said earlier, Trump is a ruthless unfair negotiator. During his long history of private business deals, he was a scoundrel and boasted in his books about scheming successfully against his opponents.
Trump is an unapologetic nationalist, and could care less about other countries not cooperating with his agenda. All he cares about is what HE THINKS is best for the USA.
From the attached article: ”Let’s not kid ourselves: the TPP was never about Canada. It was about Washington’s desire to undermine China, and increase its commercial footprint in the East Asian region.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/heres-why-trump-hates-the-trans-pacific-partnership-so-much-2016-11
Regarding Professor Snape: He had unrequited solitary love for only one woman in his dark life, which reminded me of Dante's love for Beatrice. Absolute loyalty and sacrifice is always inspiring. Ah romance...
The dark professor sadly lived a Snape's Inferno...
(Yes, I've read all of JK Rowling's book and admire her work, so does Madam Lafarge...)
Shicuréo...
Oct 29th, 2019 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yet another conservative pawn move..., huhhhhhhhh...?
You are ignoring me challenges in best Piñera Echenique style..., I see...
Let's talk paltos then...
You say that you use ~430 liters of water x kilo...
VERY GOOD... In Petorca province..., they use ~1,280 litres of water x kg...
World average for irrigated avocado production is though ~280 litres of applied water x kg...!
For comparison..., a global average of ~110 litres of applied fresh water is needed to produce a kg. of oranges...
A kg. of tomatoes requires ~63 kilograms water...
Besides..., I should remind you that you are planting carbon-dioxide absorbing forests and 100% solar security illumination just to comply with TESCO's requirements..., not because you luuuuuv... Greta Thunberg...
To finnish..., tell you sweet daughter to keep an eye on fashion trends and diversification angles...
Strolling Milano's downtown recently..., I noticed the ephemeral nature of some of them Avocado Parlors...
Just saying...
Estimado THINK
Oct 29th, 2019 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting your knowledge of water requirements in regards to production... If they really wanted to serious reduce the water depletion of the Aconcagua river aquifer, all the non-farming trees should be cut down. The evaporate-transpiration rates of shade trees is stunning.
Normally, productive orchards on rocky dry hillsides require well double of what we use, because of our advanced system is extremely efficient. We've partnered since the '70s with some very experienced Israelis on drip irrigation and have the very best micro-emitters, dosing systems, pumps, monitoring and management software.
You're correct also that my motives are purely economic. Tesco is outrageously demanding, including agricultural/environmental standards, worker compensation/benefits... the requirements are endless. But the cost/return is very worthwhile.
Greta frightens me, because those refrigerated Scandinavian owned ships that deliver the majority of our production are notorious carbon emitters...
DemonTree
Your disdain for ownership of land and water...
...what would you propose as an alternative. Are you perhaps thinking property redistribution or perhaps collective communal farming?
You better fear Greta...
Oct 29th, 2019 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She and her Scandinavian partners in crime (with a little help of strategically placed local agitateurs) are watching you..., for coordinately and simultaneously cause the complete disruption of World Order...
https://old.danwatch.dk/en/undersogelse/avocados-and-stolen-water/
Chicureo
Oct 29th, 2019 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry, I didn't read your article since the website immediately spawned no less than 5 popups, completely covering the screen. F**k that.
Big businessmen who screw over the little people to make outrageous profits aren't popular here, I gotta say. Are you also a fan of George Soros and Robert Maxwell?
Re Harry Potter, I don't know why it became such a global phenomenon, but the fan community really added a lot IMO. Haven't seen anything else like it.
“Tesco is outrageously demanding”
Glad to hear it, especially since your own government apparently refuses to enforce the law. Water should be allotted to farmers fairly and be based on the amount available. Chilean taxpayers are effectively subsidising agribusiness when the government is forced to truck in water, and I doubt many would agree to it if they knew.
“Greta frightens me”
You can call the Greta Thunberg helpline! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIP2vukNOPc
Estimator THINK
Oct 29th, 2019 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Excellent article fairly well covering the severe drought that has affected the north of Chile and the plight of poor water management.
There are a few observations however: 1. My family's farms are located in the Aconcagua Valley, far south from the Petorca Province.
2. We use the legal amount of water allotted proportionally to our rights. (We actually know the actual real time usage which is carefully analyzed.) 3. The water statistics quoted are completely misleading. 4. Growers do over-plant their land and do steal water. They should be punished appropriately and it's bad for my country's image. I have no sympathy for them. 5. We wisely comply with the law because we have a long term commitment to our business. Fortunately, my father and uncle recognized the value of water rights when it was very reasonable in cost. Sort of like buying Microsoft or Apple stock in the 1980's...
~80 km. Is “far” ...?
Oct 29th, 2019 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All the difference in the world...
Oct 30th, 2019 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0...we do however face the occasional threat of freezes, but that's farming...
Did you know that farmers with qualified water reservoirs in drought threatened areas, have available EU subsidized loans to cover the surface with a anti-evaporation floating solar power electrical producing array of panels? Neither did I, but apparently we are qualified. Still expensive though, but interesting...
Good thing that the female part of your family is taking good care of the comunication & certification part of the Palto business...
Oct 30th, 2019 - 07:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0With your non-dislosureness..., exaggerations and deficient/wrong wording choices...; companies as TESCO would kick your sorry Shilean milico poto as far as Petorca...
“FAR AWAY” ain't the same as “VERY DIFFERENT”..., hermanito...
THINK..., for example..., about the “Destitute Proletariat”...
They are..., in your eyes..., “VERY DIFFERENT”...
But..., definitively..., not “FAR AWAY”...
THINK Marie Antoinette...
Capisce...?
Estimado THINK and DemonTree
Oct 30th, 2019 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are several longer videos that reflect worldwide data, but this one sums up how data is easily manipulated.
With all respect, you both do realize that Greta symbolizes a wild hysteria in order to serve the political agenda regarding climate fraud. https://youtu.be/8455KEDitpU
Let's not get into a discussion about Marie Antoinette as I already have to contend with Madam Lafarge on a daily basis...
Shicuréo...
Oct 30th, 2019 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With all respect..., you do realize that sweet Greta introduces a fresh element of urgency to the good auld (and injustly reviled) Malthusian Catastrophe theory logic...?
We have some options..., though..., just to name a few...:
Continue full throttle towards that LIMITED RESSOURCES.., INFINITE..., EXPONENTIALLY GROWING NEEDS ravine we are headed to...
Impose the Adolf Hitler final solution of a selected group of ~300 million Aryans + ~ 500 million “honorary” Aryans...
(Mugglers and Shileans abstain...)
Introduce the “Hunger Games”...
Implement Greta's approach...
https://www.chicureohoy.cl/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/sequiachicureo.png
Capisce...?
Is Ms Thunberg also working for Venezuela?
Oct 30th, 2019 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fortunately Malthus was wrong about human behaviour, but that doesn't mean we don't have problems. There's also the option of trying to find a technological solution to climate change.
Mr.DemonTree
Oct 30th, 2019 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A ***“Technological Solution”*** already exists...
Those amazingly advanced mecanisms are called...: “ T. R. E. E. S ”
Combined with some emissions cuts..., economic adaptation..., other carbon removal methods and solar geoengineering..., it may work...
All in Greta's “Mein Kampf”..., laddie...
I'm all for planting more trees, there really isn't enough forest in this country. But Brazil and Bolivia seem more interested in burning theirs down.
Oct 30th, 2019 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do Chicureo's avocado trees offset the carbon emissions from transporting the fruit around the world in refrigerated boats?
P R F
Oct 30th, 2019 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0R E U
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q0xUXo2zEY
Estimado THINK and DemonTree
Oct 30th, 2019 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ok, you've both convinced me. I will try to increase my efforts to plant more Persea americana forests to help reduce all that nasty CO2 from the Earth's atmosphere. (Maybe I can even sell carbon offset credits to the owners of those Danish folks at Maersk...)
Additionally, I promise to encourage people to switch their consumption of animal dietary-fat to a far more delicious healthily plant derived alternative, which is needed for the body to absorb fat-soluble vitamins, such as vitamins A, D, E, and K. Avocados provides the body with nine calories of energy per gram of fat. Additionally, the body also uses fat to produce hormones, signal hunger, regulate body temperature, and construct cell membranes.
Providing needed employment and contributing to the international economy, while reducing CO2 in the atmosphere, will be my passion to help humanity during this global crisis.
Shicuréo... hermanito...
Oct 30th, 2019 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I knew that you would see the light after listening to Greta..., my friend...
After all... you also could see the truth about the ongoing Anti-Shilean Word Conspiration..., because the same type of “rare foreign chemical accelerant”...( aka gasoline ;-)... was used everywhere under the riots...
I hear that they arrested one of those Venezuelo-Cuban agitators of yours...! He was under cover as a chubby 35 years old Shilean Math Professor at the Universidad Catolica...., huhhh...?
Dead over the Universidad Catolica...!
Long live el Colo Colo...!
Speaking about Football... I see that the “Pichon de Pinochet” has just cancelled the APEC and the COP25... Fkuck that irrelevant stuff...!!!
As long as you Shilenos keep your word about River-Flamengo...
Estimator THINK
Oct 30th, 2019 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They found more than one cockroach... There's a large nest that needs to be exposed. The insurance companies are paying significant rewards for information.
APEC vs COP25... I feel melancholy loosing the positive-image-projection of Chile being the MODEL of our continent vs. avoiding hosting all the enviro-anarchist lunatics. It's sort of like watching a your new BMW sedan going over a cliff driven by your belle-mère... vraie mélancolie!
Geeeeeee....
Oct 30th, 2019 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Believe it or not...
I know EXACTLY how you feel..., hermanito...!
In my case would be like like watching me auld Sahara Beige 2002 going over same cliff driven by my Svärmor...
Estimado THINK
Oct 31st, 2019 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0We finalize this topic in a clear understanding! Take good care my friend, until the next subject of contention.
I can't other than accept your tipping of your Louis XVI..., hermanito...
Oct 31st, 2019 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fun game..., but I must admit my surprise that Mme. Defarge allowed you that much excitement...
Better than letting you out into the streets..., wearing a gilet jaune and a stick..., chasing Vehnehzuehlahn aliens..., I reckon...
Rest now and enjoy your patriach's autumn in the certainty that jeune fille Mlle Defarge ll is not coming to chase you...
https://mobile.twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1189647055511314433
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