MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Iran admits it downed “unintentionally” the Ukrainian jet killing 176 people
Iran’s military early on Saturday morning announced its role in the downing of a Ukrainian passenger jet that killed all 176 people on board, saying the shootdown was “unintentional” and blaming “human error.” Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThey denied it until they couldn't....Isn't that how liars behave ?
Jan 11th, 2020 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Iran’s President Hassan Rouhani took to Twitter to call the crash a “great tragedy” and “unforgivable mistake.” ”.....but Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif still tried to wiggle out of it and blame the US.....to be expected.
Bottom line : they cannot be trusted.
They deny it until today....Isn't that how liars behave ?
Jan 11th, 2020 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0About forty (40) years ago..., NATO was responsible for the USTICA MASSACRE in Italy... and they still try to wiggle out of it and blame XXX.....to be expected....
Bottom line : they cannot be trusted.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itavia_Flight_870
JB
Jan 12th, 2020 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse -2“Isn't that how liars behave”, you should know as your record shows your well practised.
http://en.mercopress.com/2018/04/04/brazil-s-conundrum-army-chief-twits-good-citizens-repudiate-impunity-and-respect-the-constitution/comments#comment486481
http://en. mercopress.com/2017/07/12/brazil-former-president-lula-da-silva-found-guilty-of-corruption/comments#comment470714
http://en. mercopress.com/2017/07/20/ex-brazilian-president-assets-and-bank-accounts-frozen/comments#comment471145
http://en. mercopress.com/2018/03/20/lula-begins-tour-of-south-brazil-and-meets-mujica-but-it-was-a-bad-day-for-both-leaders/comments#comment485779
http://en. mercopress.com/2018/11/22/brazil-s-secret-dealings-to-contract-cuban-physicians-to-work-in-the-more-doctors-program/comments#comment495051
“Isn't that how liars behave ?”
Jan 12th, 2020 - 02:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was expecting them to keep denying it no matter the evidence, so no. They're at least somewhat honest.
Well certainly it was a sad accident triggered by an automated SAM missile defense system. Too many innocent people died and apparently many Iranians are very angry with their own government.
Jan 12th, 2020 - 03:33 am - Link - Report abuse +1Jack, did you notice the pathetic accusation made against you by a adolescent mendacious basement dwelling idiot? Apparently you upset him with common sense and known fact.
Using a nearly silent long range Reaper UAV armed with Hellfire missiles is diabolical.
Shicuréo...
Jan 12th, 2020 - 07:06 am - Link - Report abuse +1As you usually don't respond to me on the articles where I use common sense and known facts because those crash and squash your third world milico Weltanschauung..., I will take some more mundane approach and use this opportunity to kindly ask you to convey to your french cook the secret ingredient for the HÁKARL recipe..., sadly disclosed some time ago by one of me favourite musical geniuses...:
(Minute 03:00) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mk6fnTzS848
Chicureo
Jan 12th, 2020 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse -2“Jack, did you notice...”
A man is known by the company he keeps, and birds of a feather flock together. Thanks for the above confirmation it further proves that simile situated are one and the same. So thanks for revealing you are like minded, it couldn't happen to a nicer person.
Chicureo
Jan 12th, 2020 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0“many Iranians are very angry with their own government.”
So are many Americans. They are NOT happy their government is risking starting a war for no reason.
I also heard that the US didn't know Suleimani was at the airport and killed him by mistake, but refused to admit it afterwards so as not to lose face. Probably just a rumour though.
Think
“don't respond to me on the articles where I use common sense and known facts”
I wonder where he got the idea for that?
TWIMC...
Jan 12th, 2020 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This regreatable Airliner Incident is a perfect example that the “Cui Bono” school of thought about criminal behaviour not always can be applied...
It wasn't Trump...
Indeed. Perhaps you should remember that when discussing the other airliner shot down over Ukraine...
Jan 12th, 2020 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Iranians had no choice but to admit it, short of destroying all the wreckage and bodies they were not going to be able to cover it up.
Jan 12th, 2020 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +2The Iranian people were already unhappy with their gov, right up until Donald J wacked Suleimani.
Wouldn’t surprise me if some or other foreign secret service “arranged” for the missile battery to “accidentally” fire.
Otherwise it doesn’t say much for the state of Iranian air defences, shooting down a plane squawking (transponder on) on an airport flight path used by dozens of civil aircraft every day.
What would happen if they got into a major exchange of fire with the Americans?
The Iranians are essentially playing bluff (even they know they cannot win), against an American president for whom bluffing is way too subtle to understand, and who is two sticks short of a bundle to start with.
Good luck with that.
Estimado THINK
Jan 12th, 2020 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Although Bjork's face was beautiful, I could not hear any sound from the video. Regarding the cured salmon and the gravlax adventures, we were very satisfied from the results. (Using beets for color is very appealing.)
Today Madame Defarge and I will be having carpaccio and caprese salad using goat cheese accompanied with espumante Viña Mar Champenoise Brut.
Recognizing your Scandinavian heritage, I certainly understand your disproval of our sacrilege, but what do you expect from a mestizo Chilote weltanschauungen preference.
DemonTree
The gringos did not start a war, but instead ruthlessly eliminate an avowed enemy responsible for the deaths of NATO soldiers and innocent civilians.
Despite the continuous “Death to America” rhetoric, the Iranians are financially crippled and left with only random acts of terrorism to promote their agenda.
By the way, the US Navy in 1988 actually shot down an Iranian civilian airliner using the same failed automated defense.
Terryboy
I imagine is dreadfully depressing in your dank Canadian basement in January and I sincerely sympathize with the unfortunate loss of your countrymen.
Shicuréo...
Jan 12th, 2020 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't you make yourself useful and tell me your Momio opinion about the following political analysis of La Jiles..., one of our best fifth column agents in Shile...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9ffHcZxiD3U
(Thanks in advance for votre collaboration... ;-)
Chicureo
Jan 12th, 2020 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“I imagine is dreadfully depressing ...” I'm sure it is if I was limited by your imagination. Which is so laughably wrong, that the only thing you've confirmed is, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. But, slopping out pigs doesn't require to much of anything does it?
Chicureo
Jan 12th, 2020 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They haven't started a war YET. But they've put their troops and diplomats in the region in an awful lot of danger. D'you think they're going to end up withdrawing their soldiers from Iraq? And if they do, will they warn us first so we can get ours out? The signs are not good.
I didn't know about the Iranian flight, sad to see history repeating itself.
Terry
It's slopping out avocados. Such a demanding fruit!
DT
Jan 12th, 2020 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“Such a demanding fruit!” I guess if you say he is, who am I to argue.
Lol
Jan 12th, 2020 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://i0.wp.com/metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/sexy-avocado.png
Estimado THINK
Jan 12th, 2020 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I want my half hour of life lost trying to listen to Bjork and watching Pamela on a program I didn't even know existed. I disagree with her selections in three categories, but again she's of the wrong political party.
The real losers of the past unfortunate protests are the poor and lower middle class. Unemployment in the Aconcagua Valley currently surpasses 20%, in the middle of the annual fruit harvest!
It's a forgone conclusion that the Socialist Party will win in the next presidential elections, but Piñera has already given many of their concessions, including excessive taxes.
If Socialists try to legislate even higher taxes, they'll lose the moderate middle class and tank the economy.
Meanwhile...
The most popular Twitter message today in Iran, was a tweet in Farsi to the Iranian public from Trump's account.
Also amazing today, was Iranian university students protesting against their government. Many of them even refused to walk on painted flags of the USA and Israel.
As a final footnote: Although I didn't have the privilege to slop any of the pigs, I did today personally harvest some wonderful heirloom tomatoes and sweet basil leaves...
Thanks hermanito...
Jan 12th, 2020 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We disagreeing soooo completely on politics is a clear sign that Alz...... hasn't got me..., yet...
The tomatoes and the basil are ok..., but pleeeeease keep that oveerpowering goat cheese far away...
Una Caprese si fa con la mozzarella di bufala..., o non si fa...
Capisce...?
Estimado THINK
Jan 12th, 2020 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Piñera survives his term, his legacy will be recognized because of his historic concessions.
You're correct about the cheese, but Madame preferred a very mild pimento goat cheese today. The tomatoes were a meal to themselves.
We have three varieties of basil, but at least 16 of tomatoes, including the Black Russian beauty.
DemonTree
So you like sexy pictures? Well I have some sexy videos...
http://avocadosfromchile.org/recipes
DT
Jan 12th, 2020 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I was expecting them to keep denying it no matter the evidence, so no. They're at least somewhat honest.”
Somewhat honest ?? that's very condescending of you......they only admitted it because indisputable proof appeared....and to keep on denying it would be worse than owning up...
Chicureo
I barely noticed the bs from the “adolescent mendacious basement dwelling idiot”..
only bothered to read (part of) it because you drew my attention to it. But the fact my comments always upset him, makes me happy...
Jack,
Jan 12th, 2020 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Ali Khamenei’s regime was forced to admit their guilt because of overwhelming evidence.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7878729/Iranian-students-refuse-step-Israeli-flags-Trump-warns-not-kill-protesters.html
The clip was from Shaheed Beheshti University today. It shows a crowd deliberately not walking over the flags, berating those who do. Amazing...
Please try to take some pity on the “useful idiot” because Canada in January is more depressing than you can imagine. I know from personal experience.
Waiting for the evening to cool down to open a nice red... before I go out to “slop the pigs”...
JB
Jan 12th, 2020 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“I barely noticed” that someone had revealed examples of my constant lying. You noticed it enough to comment on it, and know enough that in completing the URLs will reveal instances of you're lying. More over, you don't dare say they're not, as will show exactly your dishonesty.
JB
Jan 12th, 2020 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Russia doesn't admit to things, no matter how good the evidence. Nor would they be inclined to let other countries in to investigate. So Iran is better than that.
Chicureo
I'm more jealous of your fresh tomato salad, winter in the UK can be pretty miserable too. Six months is enough to remedy this problem, however.
Terry
Jan 12th, 2020 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Try to control your delusions. I earlier sent to a link for Canadians seeking mental health challenges, but you obviously ignored it and still seem to be consumed by by your own hubris. Find help!
Also, get rid of your pink pussy hat and switch to real food instead of tofu and kale...
(Next Summer, you should try a bacon-lettuce-avocado-tomato sandwich on sourdough bread. It will change your life for the good.
Chicureo
Jan 13th, 2020 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse -1“Canada in January is more depressing” According to your imagination, which is decidedly limited as I have already said, and you accepted that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.
https://en.mercopress.com/2020/01/11/iran-admits-it-downed-unintentionally-the-ukrainian-jet-killing-176-people/comments#comment506165
Shicuréo...
Jan 13th, 2020 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 01) If Mme Lafarge insist on goat cheese..., do at least refer to it as Lafargese..., not Caprese...
(Neither Noires de Crimée on a Caprese, please... The “Tricolore” must be respected... ;-)
2) A pity you couldn't hear Bjørks' enchanting voice... Try with this Persian-dinavian young
lass..., she will one day conquer the U.S.A. ;-) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IVyjEqBHCaE
3) How could La Jiles be in “the wrong party” when it's an Argie inspired party...?
- Besides..., careful with this chick's witts... If in doubt ask general Blu... :-)
Estimado THINK
Jan 13th, 2020 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0First, I love the young Norwegian songstress and she does great homage to the original by Louie Armstrong.
One of the great secrets released from the Soviet Union was the Black Krim heirloom tomato, originating from the Isle of Krim in the Black Sea off the coast of the Crimean Peninsula. We have 15 other great varieties of which makes life so wonderful.
DemonTree
Other than a selection of herbs, I suggest you start tomatoes in early spring for your garden. Home grown are far more delicious than the hydroponic supermarket imitations available.
And of course, do check out the incredible versatility avocadosfromchile.org/recipes
Finally, you give too little credit to why there was no open warfare between the USA and Iran. (You also foolishly questioned the Americans knowledge of targeting Solimani.)
this.” https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/id-see-them-call-me-how-trump-used-encrypted-swiss-fax-machine-defuse-iran-crisis
Chicureo
Jan 13th, 2020 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hey, nothing wrong with kale. It does well in the UK and you can harvest it all winter when there's not much else growing. Plus I like the flavour.
Shicuréo...
Jan 13th, 2020 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tell La Defarge to make you a salad with the freshest Mozzarella (max. 48hrs old) she can come by in Santiago..., some Costoluto Genovese tomatoes..., young, small leaved Basil (without the slightest hint of mint)..., some droplets of the mildest Extravergine money can buy and a bit of Fleur de Sel (only on them tomatoes..., please)... and we are talking “Caprese”...
DemonTree
Jan 13th, 2020 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tofu and kale was a metaphor for the sociopathic narcissism expressed upon us from a mentally challenged adolescent Canadian that lives on Chef Boyardee SpaghettiOs and microwaved frozen pizza...
I have nothing against kale and my feelings toward tofu is ambiance.
(Same for Terry...)
TWIMC...
Jan 13th, 2020 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now is me chance to link to that jazzy Iranian gal them Yanks seem to like...:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uOS1W8_J0YY
Chicureo
Jan 13th, 2020 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The video at least supports the notion that not all Iranian students are brainwashed idiots.....good for them.
Canada's 'useless idiot' flatters himself when he believes I read his shit....there's no point in 'reading' it, it's just nonsense.
While at University, I took a course on “speed reading” (leitura dinâmica), and it is very useful to skim over his shit, just to reconfirm that there's nothing worthwhile in it.
Yeah, Canadian winters eventually become depressing....no need to imagine, have been there during winter, but Gollum would hardly notice it, being locked up in his mother's dingy, hot, smelly basement, surrounded by his crawling friends...which he feeds upon when his mother forgets to throw the garbage down the shute.
DT
“Russia doesn't admit to things, no matter how good the evidence.”
I'm not talking about the Russians, they're a whole different cup of tea, but not much better.
Was talking about the Iranian government....by no standard can it be considered 'somewhat honest'....the leaders denied it categorically, until they couldn't...but you believe they are “relatively” less dishonest, 'n that makes them better (than the Russians)....honesty is not a relative concept, like a girl cannot be 'more or less' pregnant...
Chicureo
Jan 13th, 2020 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've grown tomatoes every year since I've had a garden, the cherry ones seem to do best. I usually get a selection from the plant sale, they have interesting varieties: stripy, a black Russian one, lemon flavoured yellow and a snow-something or other.
Tofu can be good or awful depending how it's cooked. But according to rumour Canadians all live on Kraft macaroni cheese, and my friend's Canadian girlfriend brought some with her to eat, so it must be true.
Maybe making mozzarella could be Madame Lafarge's next project?
DT
Jan 13th, 2020 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...continue...
Chicureo
Jan 13th, 2020 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“a metaphor for the sociopathic narcissism expressed” The short name for what you're expressing is 'transference'.
”1. The projection of attitudes, wishes, desires, libidinous and aggressive thoughts to another party,
https: //medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Transference+(psychology)
Still expressing opinions based on your extremely limited imagination, that are still missing by a golden mile.
JB
“Yeah, Canadian winters ... in his mother's”. Have you ever sought help for your hostility towards females, that you attempt to attribute to others. You are totally devoid of any powers of deduction, like your fellow reactionary. But , there's a good reason for it. “Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice; There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study …The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults.” www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html
DemonTree
Jan 13th, 2020 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps “normal” Canadians consume macaroni and cheese, but Gollum would consider that haute cuisine...
Your appreciation for tomatoes has greatly increased my estimation of you. I love the sweetness of cherry and grape tomatoes which I eat as snack food.
Madame Defarge likes Mozzarella cheese, but has been fascinated with goat cheese as one of her girlfriend's family is involved in the business.
Artisanal bread toasted with a good cheese is heavenly, especially with slices of ripe tomato.
Estimado THINK
She certainly has great talent. It was interesting why Angelina sings barefoot.
BTW, completely agree about the quality of the olive oil, but we've achieved in Chile some really good pressings lately. (We even now have domestic truffle oil.)
Jack
I was fortunate to obtain a few cases of Arboleda Carmenere 2016 at less than USD8 a bottle.
Terry the Loco Legend
Relax and calm down. There are people waiting to assist you 24 hours a day. You are not alone...
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/mental-health-services/mental-health-get-help.html
Chicureo
Jan 13th, 2020 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“Relax and calm down” Always, if you will note I simply respond to what ever you initiate. Seems your attempts at insults fall exceeding flat, whereas my 'home truths' seem to be right on the money.
https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/Home+Truths
You make claims without evidence, while I show what experts make of your utterings. 'Transference' in your case, and the two of you 'reactionary dummies' both have made negative comments about women. Remember, people in 'glass-houses' shouldn't throw stones.
Shicuréo.
Jan 13th, 2020 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yupppppppppp... Angelina er en rigtig engel....
Please try to remember her when you..., whilst waiting for the evening to cool down to open a nice red..., let your inner pig out..., and begin to enjoy the though of those diabolically silent long range Reaper UAV's firing their Hellfire missiles..., ripping the flesh of her likes...
- As she remembers that poor Asian girl she gave her shoes to..., every single time she sings barefooted...
Mens Sana In Corpore Sano...
Capisce...?
Dear Terry,
Jan 13th, 2020 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“my hostility towards females” ? You must be confused (as usual), no hostility towards females, because of their sex...thank God for them ! well, not all of them....such as a few of those disgruntled female 'petistas'.
Anyway, thanks for the suggestion, but I don't need help.
As to your mother, on principle I have nothing against her, except for the fact she gave birth to an idiot like you.
Perhaps she regretted having you, which might explain your sorry state/mental confusion.
Chicureo
“Artisanal bread toasted with a good cheese is heavenly, especially with slices of ripe tomato”...and a bit of “orégano”.....you sure know how to make one's mouth water.....
and your easy supply of good wine at low prices makes me envious...
Terry's mother has probably given up calling 911.....they see who's calling and refuse to go. Funny that he should accuse me of negative comments about women ...the only female I can recall having made unflattering remarks about, is Dumb Dilma....and that is, provided you consider her a woman....Terry obviously does, and loves her....probably has a life-size poster of her beside his matress in the cellar.
JB
Jan 13th, 2020 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“No hostility towards females” Guess I've got make allowances for documented dumbness. “..feeds upon when his mother forgets ... mother's dingy, hot, smelly basement,” You've created this fictional matriarchal figure to whom you've proscribed the most negative connotations. This more telling about yourself and the transference that you are solely engaged in. Did your mother ever know how hostile you really felt towards her?
Estimado THINK
Jan 13th, 2020 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She is lovely and I've read her bio.
Regarding Hellfire missles, I have nothing against peaceful desert Semites. I have plenty of friends here that belong to both their quarrelsome tribes. The Palestinian Club in San Felipe has excellent Arab food that I regularly enjoy.
Let's just hope they keep their quarrels away from our continent. Especially considering what has happened twice in Buenos Aires.
Jack
Especially fresh oregano...
What I envy of you is the fresh mango for breakfast. I used to insist on it when working in Petrolina.
Loco Legend
Please try to admit the truth. During the lengthy Abortion Debate, you admitted to living in Canada and never refuted the fact you were living in you mother's basement. (Or as you alluded to living on the “lower level of a split level home.”)
Or are you now denying you were the “Terrence Hill” who posted on that forgettable thread? That would only prove you to be mendacious.
However, in the spirit of honesty, you never said “basement.”
Everyone on this thread has “ woman issues” and certainly I have with mine when she has a sharp knife nearby...
“Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the hailstorm...” Repent your mistaken ideology and embrace professional help, which is free in Canada...
Call the number provided on the website, you'll feel better afterwards.
Shicuréo...,
Jan 13th, 2020 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your merciful, sincere and compassionate interest in the well- being of our troubled Kanuck brother is most laudable...
And taking in consideration that you..., in this very same thread..., also have shown some understanding about tomatoes..., olive oil and bread..., I THINK you deserve to be initiated in a well kept Andalusian secret..., the Salmorejo Cordobés...:
http://www.salmorejocordobes.com/contenidos/la-receta-del-salmorejo-cordobes
Try it..., I'm positive you won't regret it... ;-)
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 13th, 2020 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“You admitted to living in Canada ... you alluded to living on the “lower level of a split level home.” I have never stated where I live on a public forum. Hmm if this were true, where's the citation. If there isn't one then it cannot be true, since you bear the burden of proof, as you're making the claim. “Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy; States of Affairs; First published Tue Mar 27, 2012
Philosophers connect sentences with various items, such as thoughts, facts and states of affairs. Thoughts are either true or false in an absolute sense, never both or neither.“
plato.stanford.edu/entries/states-of-affairs/
”Everyone on this thread has “ woman issues” No only you and JB.
Estimado THINK
Jan 14th, 2020 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for the recipes. The third video would not allow me to view, but the first two caught my imagination. I'm trying the blender version tomorrow and will report back my findings, but I already know I'll like it. Thank you.
Loco Legend
So you admit you are a liar? Refreshing for a change! I actually hope you'll now take the next step and contact the Canadian agency best suited in addressing your problems.
Or as Confucius once said: “Let a monkey climb a tree and he'll show his ass every time.” Confucius 551–479 BC, Chinese philosopher and politician of the Spring and Autumn period. (Scroll 23, first four vertical lines of characters.)
The lengthily abortion debate remains a record of your heated and angry comments, describing your living conditions in Canada as Terrence Hill.
- Undeniable EVIDENCE!
Or do you deny you posted as Terrence Hill? Perhaps you lied about living in Canada? Jack Bauer knows even more about you, including your other identities...
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 14th, 2020 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse -1“So you admit you are a liar?” I emphatically do not, on the contrary you are the one making a claim who bears the burden of proof, not I.
“AN ASSERTION IS A STATEMENT OFFERED AS A CONCLUSION WITHOUT SUPPORTING EVIDENCE. SINCE AN ARGUMENT IS DEFINED AS A LOGICAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN PREMISE AND CONCLUSION, A SIMPLE ASSERTION IS NOT AN ARGUMENT.”
Ignoring the Burden of Proof http://learn.lexiconic.net/fallacies/index.htm
Since a thought is true or false, not neither, or both. Since you have failed to prove, it therefore must be false, thanks.
“Undeniable EVIDENCE!” would be a URL, since there isn't one your claim is thus proved false.
JB
Jan 14th, 2020 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0I suppose it's the whole 'post truth' thing. Every day I see an army of idiots on the Internet swearing black is white and up is down (and war is peace and ignorance is strength), so why should Iran tell the truth? No matter how strong the evidence there'd be someone to make a YouTube video 'proving' the crash was faked by America just to discredit Iran, and millions of people willing to believe it.
Chicureo
I made paneer once and mozzarella doesn't look that much harder. But if you can get interesting cheese from a friend it makes sense to do that.
Agree about the cheese on toast, it's amazing what a difference good ingredients make. I just got back from Yorkshire where we visited the Wensleydale cheese factory and sampled all the cheeses they make.
https://www.wensleydale.co.uk/
DemonTree
Jan 14th, 2020 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Looks like an interesting place to visit: “...the finale of the show season was the World Cheese Awards, which took place in Italy this year with over 3,800 cheese types being entered into the Awards. The Wensleydale Creamery placed top 3 in the world with 4 of its cheese including, Extra Mature Yorkshire Cheddar, Yorkshire Red, Yorkshire Wensleydale and Wensleydale Blue and we couldn’t be happier with that result to end the show season!”
Regarding Iran, did you see the top two top Iranian news reporters have denounced the government and resigned. Also Trump arranged through secret communications using the Swiss to avoid a war?
Loco Legend
You did in fact, previously and emphatically declared the facts I've stated, with the exception that you lived in a basement. An extensive search of Mercopress archives using “Argentina+abortion+law” will lead you to the extensive posts made by a Terrence Hill, which I assume you'll accept were made by you.
Jack Bauer has extensive information about you and your various aliases on several sites. The same style of writing and ridiculous opinions mirror the Terrence Hill identity.
“Never trust dishonest people.” General Dwight Eisenhower, June 14, 1951 Leadville, Colorado
You Terry are the one making a claim that you are not residing in Canada. You bear the burden of proof, not I. ”A LACK OF ASSERTION IS A DENIAL WITHOUT SUPPORTING EVIDENCE. SINCE AN ARGUMENT IS DEFINED AS A LOGICAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN PREMISE AND CONCLUSION, A LACK OF ASSERTION IS PROOF OF LOSING AN ARGUMENT.”*
(*From the school of common sense, typically acquired after ones adolescence, but in many cases never...)
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 14th, 2020 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse -1“You did in fact, previously and emphatically declared the facts I've stated,” Unfortunately, your saying so, don't make it so.
While I can show you claiming I did, and my denial and your subsequent lack of proof.
”ei incumbit probatio, qui dicit, non qui negat (cum per rerum naturam factum negantis probation nulla sit)-the burden of proof lies upon him who affirms, not on him who denies, (since by the nature of things, he who denies a fact cannot produce any proof). The claimant is always bound to prove: the burden of proof lies on him. Upon the one alleging, not upon him denying, rests the duty of proving. Upon the plaintiff rests the proving or the burden of proof,”
Soma's Dictionary of Latin Quotations, Maxims and Phrases: A Compendium of ..
Chicureo
“I forgot you ... live in” You have absolutely no idea where I live? But, isn't in Canada.
Dec 29th, 2018 - 09:13 pm
https://en.mercopress.com/2018/12/26/pro-choice-groups-will-try-again-in-2019-to-legalize-abortion-in-argentina/comments#comment496246
DemonTree
Jan 14th, 2020 - 01:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Looks like an interesting place to visit: “...the finale of the show season was the World Cheese Awards, which took place in Italy this year with over 3,800 cheese types being entered into the Awards. The Wensleydale Creamery placed top 3 in the world with 4 of its cheese including, Extra Mature Yorkshire Cheddar, Yorkshire Red, Yorkshire Wensleydale and Wensleydale Blue and we couldn’t be happier with that result to end the show season!”
Regarding Iran, did you see the top two top Iranian news reporters have denounced the government and resigned. Also Trump arranged through secret communications using the Swiss to avoid a war?
Loco Legend
You did in fact, previously and emphatically declared the facts I've stated, with the exception that you lived in a basement. An extensive search of Mercopress archives using “Argentina+abortion+law” will lead you to the extensive posts made by a Terrence Hill, which I assume you'll accept were made by you.
Jack Bauer has extensive information about you and your various aliases on several sites. The same style of writing and ridiculous opinions mirror the Terrence Hill identity.
“Never trust dishonest people.” General Dwight Eisenhower, June 14, 1951 Leadville, Colorado
You Terry are the one making a claim that you are not residing in Canada. You bear the burden of proof, not I. ”A LACK OF ASSERTION IS A DENIAL WITHOUT SUPPORTING EVIDENCE. SINCE AN ARGUMENT IS DEFINED AS A LOGICAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN PREMISE AND CONCLUSION, A LACK OF ASSERTION IS PROOF OF LOSING AN ARGUMENT.”*
(*From the school of common sense, typically acquired after ones adolescence, but in many cases never...)
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 14th, 2020 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse +1“You did in fact,” Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth. Franklin D. Roosevelt
If it was a fact how come you can't produce the proof? Could it be it doesn't exist, and will never be produced, that will be the natural outcome of this claim. You are real sweetheart proving conclusively that what you claim is a lie.
Loco Legend the pitiful useful idiot a.k.a. Gollum
Jan 14th, 2020 - 02:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Simple clear truth is your own admission of Canadian residence, living situation and political beliefs.
(All demonstrated by the numerous posts made under the alias Terrence Hill.)
I can't imagine why anyone would want to deny living in Canada, especially since it looks like one of the royal couples seems to now be taking residence there...
“STULTUS EST SICUT STULTUS FACIT” describes the current argument.
Jack Bauer knows you too well...
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 14th, 2020 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse -1“Simple clear truth is your own admission” Which is apparently invisible, shame you can't show it. “All demonstrated by the numerous posts under the alias Terrence Hill” only used by you. “Jack Bauer knows you too well...” the very same one Jack Bauer aka Proof-less and Truth-less.
All who post here:
Jan 14th, 2020 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0The person who identifies as Terrence Hill is a pathological liar, clear and simple.
I will no longer waste my time interacting with him.
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 14th, 2020 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse -1“The person who identifies as Terrence Hill is a pathological liar” Which is you, if your going to attempt fraud, at least spell the name correctly, oops.
If it is a Miracle, any sort of evidence will answer, but if it is a fact, proof is necessary” Mark Twain
“He who asserts must prove”. No proof , no truth.
Chicureo
Jan 14th, 2020 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0They have a little museum type thing with a history of the company and activities for children, plus a demonstration of cheese making and windows to look into the factory (but nothing was happening because we went on a Saturday). As well as the shop where you could taste all the cheeses. The company is quite famous for making Wensleydale with cranberries in, which is popular at Christmas, but I got some of the basic cheeses cos they're more versatile.
Didn't see the thing about reporters, only the Olympic medallist. Can't blame anyone for wanting to get away from such a repressive government. Why did Trump need to involve the Swiss?
Loco Legend
If you're going to point out spelling errors, at least don't make your own in the same bloody sentence! On a site full of second language speakers, you have the single worst spelling, grammar and vocabulary. It's embarrassing.
DemonTree
Jan 14th, 2020 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, Europeans have the best selection of cheese. Fortunately we do import a great selection, but the cost is high. Saying that, Chile does produce some decent varieties.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/id-see-them-call-me-how-trump-used-encrypted-swiss-fax-machine-defuse-iran-crisis
.washingtonexaminer.com/news/top-iranian-reporter-apologizes-for-lying-and-quits-government-tv-after-plane-crash
.foxnews.com/politics/trump-tweets-again-in-farsi-says-iran-has-been-choked-off-by-sanctions-protests
DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
Jan 14th, 2020 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“At least don't make your own” Aha one of your ethically challenged buddies has been totally exposed, boo hoo.
I didn't, his spelling error is not the issue. It shows that I have never posted under that name, and thus its a fraudulent claim “Equity regards substance rather than form.”
“You have the single worst” Aha in your unbiased humble opinion, funny how can't support your claim either.
Chicureo
Jan 14th, 2020 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's weird. During the cold war didn't Russia and America have a special phoneline to prevent misunderstandings? That's a bit more direct than going through the Swiss embassy. They also didn't have Twitter back then, but still managed to play to the audience with their 'bellicose propaganda'.
Loco Legend
Your spelling, grammar and word use are objectively terrible, you can look things up in a dictionary if you don't believe me, and I strongly suggest you do so.
You can start here: https://www.dictionary.com/e/your-vs-youre/?itm_source=parsely-api
DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
Jan 14th, 2020 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +1”His spelling error is not the issue. It shows that I have never posted under that name, and thus it's a fraudulent claim “Equity regards substance rather than form.”
What's really significant is both he and you are aware of his lying, and yet it of no significance. But heavens to Betsy someone made an insignificant error. Thus, birds of a feather flock together, a liar and his apologist.
DemonTree
Jan 14th, 2020 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To my limited knowledge, the USA and Russia still maintain a dedicated phone link. That does not exist with Iran.
By the way, the appropriate spelling of “Legend” is “I-D-I-O-T” which confirms the observation that equity regards substance rather than form.
Honestly, I'd feel sorry for him if he wasn't such an asshole.
Jan 14th, 2020 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0PS. Why 'Loco Legend' and not 'Loca Legend'?
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 14th, 2020 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“I-D-I-O-T” If I'm smart enough to reveal you in your true light, what does that make you, besides a confirmed liar.
DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
Honestly is the last thing you ever engage in.
”It used to be we thought that people who went around correcting other people's grammar were just plain annoying. Now there's evidence they are actually ill, suffering from a type of obsessive-compulsive disorder/oppositional defiant disorder (OCD/ODD). Researchers are calling it Grammatical Pedantry Syndrome, or GPS.“ illinois.edu/blog/view/25/76120
“Grammar Pedantry Syndrome” is a form of OCD in which sufferers need to correct every grammatical error.” twitter.com/uberfacts/status/218151002707206145
“A pedant is a person who is excessively concerned with formalism, accuracy, ... Asperger syndrome often have behaviour characterized by pedantic speech.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedant
DemonTree
Jan 14th, 2020 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now Iranian actors are registering their protest:
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/we-are-captives-iranian-actor-criticises-tehran-government/ar-BBYUduX
Regarding Loco/Loca: it's a matter of masculine vs. feminine, which a non-gender binary address would perhaps be more appropriate for him/her/it...
Which brings the quandary of why IDIOT is IDIOTA in Castellano...
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 14th, 2020 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Keep pirouetting all you want, the outcome is still the same. You have been condemned out of your own mouth as an unmitigated liar. Amazing how all you reactionaries behaviours are identical, oh I remember now. “Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice; There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study …The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults.” www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html
Chicureo
Jan 14th, 2020 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nouns in English don't have a gender so I wondered if you'd just naturally match the corresponding Spanish one. But I looked up 'legend' in Spanish and it's 'la leyenda', so seems you were matching the gender of Terry instead. Does 'los voices' or 'la car' sound wrong to you? Also, now I'm wondering what pronouns 'non-binary' people use in Spanish... must be much more difficult.
DemonTree
Jan 14th, 2020 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I tried THINK's recipe today for lunch along with a few variations of Bruschetta served on Chilean marraqueta grilled bread. Absolutely delicious! We had lemonade today, but it would beautifully pair with wine.
https://www.196flavors.com/chile-marraqueta/
The whole gender pronoun thing is worse than trying to understand German grammar. Now we're being instructed to consider using “Latinx” instead of “Latino/Latina”
For those mentally challenged,
I-D-I-O-T-A translated in British English is IDIOT.
(If you call someone an idiot, you mean that they are very stupid.)
“Useful idiot” was the term used by Vladimir Lenin towards communist sympathizers in the West, while the Soviets held them in utter contempt they also viewed them as tools for dispensing propaganda.
Dear Terry,
Jan 14th, 2020 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You've created this fictional matriarchal figure...”. You mean you weren't given birth by a woman ? perhaps a chicken hatched you ?
She is not fictional, 'n regrets your existence...and because of that I'm prepared to forgive her...how could she know you'd turn out to be what you are ?
“Fiction” describes YOU well, no one as idiotic as you can really exist. Rgrdg the basement, I'm sure it was OK until you took it over...feel sorry for you, you smelly creature.
”Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth. Franklin D. Roosevelt”...strange, doesn't stop YOU from repeating your lies.
Chicureo
Mango season is ending, but will soon start again....the big, fibreless Haden mangoes are delicious, max 2 to a kilo; Tommy variety is also common here, 'n recently found the Keitt. If you enjoy fruit salad, mango, red ruby grapefruit, navel oranges, red apple, and spanish melon are a fine combination...cooled off in the fridge.
Don't know where Gollum's obsession with trying to impute women issues to others, comes from....my guess is his mother locked him in the basement, in order not embarrass the family...making him the resentful twerp that he is.
His history of denying previous statements when he gets the story all wrong is pathetic, his logic (or lack of it), his contradictions, his silly citations (some in Latin which he repeats incessantly), all prove he has a loose screw in his head...remember the episodes on Bolsonaro's wife (“she was weak”) and insisting VP Hamilton Mourão (was commander) in Haiti (over Gen. Heleno) ? just 02 examples..... he even refused to accept the proof I posted from the Brazilian army's official site.
DT
Going back to Iran's lies, shortly after a few missiles landed in the US base, Iran claimed 80 US soldiers had been killed...a few days after shooting the plane down, when given the chance to back down gracefully (when Trump mentioned it was “unintentional”), they also said no one had been killed on the US bases.
Jack,
Jan 14th, 2020 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We receive here an imature Tommy Atkins variety from Peru. Nothing to compare to the quality of what you have there...
We also sadly do not have Pão de Queijo here either.
Regarding the Canadian “Useful Idiot”, I've already let him/her/it know that you've amassed a significant amount of background information, including the various aliases of him/her/it.
Gollum is panicked and upset because he/she/it forgot his/her/it's own online admissions during an extensive late term Argentina abortion debate where he/she/it admitted to his/her/it's location and living conditions.
What I found hilarious was the other websites his/her/it regularly posts on, which he's/she's/it's clueless we now know... The weird style of composition gives Gollum away.
Chicureo,
Jan 14th, 2020 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yep, we are well served here when it comes to fruit.....local and imported....and 'cheese bread'.....
Gollum is unmistakable on any site.....you can tell from the first sentence....and when you see the citations in Latin (as if it were a scholar), the calling of anyone who disagrees with it, a liar....you know immy.
But as you say, interacing with 'it', is a waste of time....but sometimes it needs being put in its place....so 5 secs to do that is no sacrifice.
JB
Jan 15th, 2020 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Did they? According to the article Chicureo linked, the Iranians deliberately tried to avoid killing any Americans, so avoid escalating things with the US.
I reckon nearly everyone would like to see the back of that regime, but we don't want Iran to end up in an even worse state, like Iraq after Saddam.
Chicureo
Maybe I'll try it too when it's summer here. Sadly it is never summer enough for mangos though, they are one of my favourite fruits. IMO pineapple is the thing that suffers the most from being exported, there is no comparison between the pineapple I had in Costa Rica and what you get in the UK.
RE Latinx, at least it's shorter, but how do you say it? Am I supposed to call you Latinxes now?
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 15th, 2020 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse -1“Forgot his own online admissions” if that were true were's the URL? I forgot you like to talk the talk. But, of course you're unable to prove what you say.
Jack Bauer Proof less & Truth less
“Doesn't stop YOU from repeating your lies.” If that were true were's the citation like the following showing yours.
Just to remind you of your well deserved reputation as the biggest liar on this site.
http://en. mercopress.com/2018/04/04/brazil-s-conundrum-army-chief-twits-good-citizens-repudiate-impunity-and-respect-the-constitution/comments#comment486481
http://en. mercopress.com/2017/07/12/brazil-former-president-lula-da-silva-found-guilty-of-corruption/comments#comment470714
http://en. mercopress.com/2017/07/20/ex-brazilian-president-assets-and-bank-accounts-frozen/comments#comment471145
http://en. mercopress.com/2018/03/20/lula-begins-tour-of-south-brazil-and-meets-mujica-but-it-was-a-bad-day-for-both-leaders/comments#comment485779
http://en. mercopress.com/2018/11/22/brazil-s-secret-dealings-to-contract-cuban-physicians-to-work-in-the-more-doctors-program/comments#comment495051
“He even refused to accept the proof I posted” No I did not, the author may well have been given incorrect information, or made an error. Regardless, the officer IC was removed as, there was fear that his conduct was culpable for the many deaths, which was the articles central issue.
“Gollum is unmistakable on any site” Sorry if I don't take your word, your lack of veracity you have already established.
DemonTree and Jack,
Jan 15th, 2020 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sticking with the traditional “Latino/Latina” forms of address.
Interesting to see the actual footage of the two missiles hitting the fated airliner on TV this morning. They arrested the poor Iranian that released the footage.
We've been sweltering here in Santiago, but tomorrow I'll be in the Aconcagua valley at the farm. We start harvesting table grapes next month and the preparation for the packing is extensive.
Unemployment there is the worst I've seen in two decades. People are actively seeking work as harvesters at an unprecedented rate. The traditional campesinos are notably unhappy with the large number of foreigners competing for their jobs and willing to work at lower wages.
Our drones/UAVs have proven their worth in security protection alone.
Regarding fruit salads: In the Aconcagua valley there are current harvests of peaches, plums, apricots, nectarines and a few grapes. Mangos, passion fruit, pineapples and bananas have to be imported. We do however have cherimoyas from the north, which are wonderful.
FOR THE MENTALLY CHALLENGED: READ THE ARCHIVES...
Si acabó el Shile de lo poroto con rienda y el pollo alverjao..., cachaí...?
Jan 15th, 2020 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cOUFCEpxM6g
;-)
DT
Jan 15th, 2020 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Did they? According to the article Chicureo linked, the Iranians deliberately tried to avoid killing any Americans, so avoid escalating things with the US.”
And how would the Iranians be sure the bases had been evacuated ? anyway, shortly after the attack, the local news showed one of the ayatollahs (according to the translation) boasting the death of at least 80 Americans....then, just another lie, later recanted (when given the opportunity to avoid the escalation of mutual aggression).
Chicureo
The useful IDIOTA'S attempt to wiggle out of his lies is hilarious.....blaming someone else for the bad information. If he would at least admit he was stupid enough to buy it without checking first, one might cut him some slack, but his arrogance seems to get in the way.....
We get peaches and nectarines from Chile (and the US), as well as plums....absolutely delicious.....not to mention the cherries from Washington State. Local pineapples, especially the Hawaiian type, are sweet and juicy - just have to know when to cut them open, which is relatively easy...when they start to exude a delicious smell and juice starts to appear where the stalk was. Grapes (many seedless varieties) are also damned good.
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 15th, 2020 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“FOR THE MENTALLY CHALLENGED: READ THE ARCHIVES...” Why when your posts are readily available when we want some rural ramblings.
Jack Bauer Proof less & Truth less
“Enough to buy it without checking first” Certainly, unlike you he's not proven a liar, as the links on my previous post clearly show.
Estimado THINK
Jan 15th, 2020 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yesterday you provided me with a delicious cuisine, today with the outstanding humor of Jorge Alis, including after he won the silver and gold, was exceptional.
Jack,
We've been enjoying the cherries from the south too. We have on our farm a few ancient persimmon as well as fig trees (Calmeria and Mission varieties) and 4 pluot trees along with a few varieties of citrus, walnut, almond, pecan and pistachios. (
The pistachios has been a failure, because the trees need higher temperatures.)
We've experimented with kiwi and had a horrible experience planting 4 hectares of feijoa (pineapple guava or guavasteen), but now we're commercially focused on avocados with table and wine grapes in our frost prone areas.
Speaking of pineapple, I love how you Brazilians grill them.
BTW for those are feeling ignored:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/national-dealing-with-loneliness-1.4828017
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 15th, 2020 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“BTW for those are feeling ...”
Aha! Back to your old transference issue.
Chicureo
Jan 15th, 2020 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On our land, not exactly a farm, as 97% is virgin forest, we had (have ??) a few fruit trees - limes, lemons, tangerine, blackberry (of which the the birds ate most), and avocado.....the 2 avocado trees used to get loaded and produce hundreds of fruits...had to give them away.
We only get cherries around Christmas time, and are big and fleshy, about the size of lychees. About 30 years ago, I met a kiwi grower from NZ, and I felt tempted to try planting them on the land, but we concluded it wasn't the ideal 'terroir'.
“Aha” ! beware of Gollum, the slimy 'under-the-ground' dweller !!!
Jack
Jan 15th, 2020 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At our home in Chicureo we have six fruit trees that are grafted with several varieties. In the springtime the trees bloom in multi-colors, but most the fruit has to be given away. No avocados however, because of the frost threat.
We used to dry fruit, but it's far to time consuming and not very profitable. We still make raisins, as a byproduct of our table grapes.
There really is help for Gollum:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/national-dealing-with-loneliness-1.4828017
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 15th, 2020 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Jack Bauer Proof less & Truth less
Two desperate transferees, carry your own burdens, nobody is going to pickup after you.
Jack
Jan 15th, 2020 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Attached is a very useful website if you ever desire growing citrus trees south of the 49 degrees latitude in your hemisphere. (Also extremely helpful for those north of the 49 degrees latitude in the Northern hemisphere as well.)
https://www.crisisservicescanada.ca/en/
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged“
Jan 15th, 2020 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -1”https: //www.crisisservicescanada.ca/en/
”Psychological projection is a defence mechanism people subconsciously employ in order to cope with difficult feelings or emotions. Psychological projection involves projecting undesirable feelings or emotions onto someone else, rather than admitting to or dealing with the unwanted feelings.
https://www.everydayhealth.com/emotional.../psychological-projection-dealing-with-un...
JB & Chicureo
Jan 16th, 2020 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0“And how would the Iranians be sure the bases had been evacuated ?”
This is what the news said:
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-iraq-security-targets/iran-believed-to-have-deliberately-missed-u-s-forces-in-iraq-strikes-sources-idUKKBN1Z728M
They couldn't be sure of zero casualties, but they could try and minimise them. As for the Ayatollah, wonder if the translation was accurate? Perhaps it was meant for internal consumption if so.
Re pineapples, they don't ripen after being exported, and they can't transport them fully ripe, so they're never very good. Mangos and avocados ripen if left out of the fridge but it's hard to get them at the right stage. Not surprising all these fruits are better in the countries they are grown, though.
Is the blackberry the same that grows wild in England? simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackberry#/media/File:Blackberry_fruits10.jpg Bit risky to plant that unless you want your whole garden to turn into an impenetrable bramble thicket...
As for citrus trees, sure you can grow them north of 49 degrees - in a greenhouse. At Kew gardens they have a mango tree and it finally produced fruit after 20 years. Apparently it needs a dry season to promote fruiting.
DemonTree
Jan 16th, 2020 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, it would seem that Iran launched a limited attack perhaps because of their concern the USA would mount a larger counterattack. We do however know that several missiles failed to reach their targets and there were amazingly no casualties reported.
The secret communications using the Swiss seems to have been well calculated, but who knows?
Iran economically really is in a terrible economic situation to go to war, because the USA has diabolically nearly destroyed their economy. (The Americans did the same thing to us in 1973.)
Yes, you can grow practically anything almost anywhere with a hothouse and can even artificially manipulate plant dormancy, but the comment was directed towards inhabitants of Canada who many reside north of 49degrees latitude...
Next time you shop for imported fruit, try smelling the blossom end when selecting. It's helpful with pineapples. Also, there are some premium varieties to look for.
Regarding blackberries: there are a multitude of varieties/cultivars including thornless. Personally, I prefer boysenberries, raspberries and loganberries. If you amend your soil to a higher acid level, blueberries would be an excellent choice for your climate.
And the plants can be very invasive.
Today I'm at the farm waiting for people that should have been here at 9AM, but this is Chile... I'm bored watching the national news on a 1985 Sony Trinitron tv which looks so primitive...
Si taí aburrio..., mirá a la perrita y la cachalote... ;-)))
Jan 16th, 2020 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(Minuto 04:00 - 04:30)...: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecd92cTQBXA&t=276s
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 16th, 2020 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“But the comment was directed towards inhabitants” Please keep emphasising how stupid you are, if I was living in Canada I would say so. But I'm not a retarded reactionary like you. Who would lie about what you ate for breakfast, because your life with a 1985 Sony Trinitron TV leaves you feeling so inadequate.
Chicureo
Jan 16th, 2020 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems like it was mostly a symbolic gesture, with perhaps the aim of showing what they could do and perhaps destroying some infrastructure, much like the US strikes on Syria a couple of years ago. No country is in a good position to go to war with the US, the Iranian government isn't going to do it unless they believe the alternative is swinging from a rope like Saddam. I doubt there's much appetite in the US for an even bigger Iraq-style debacle, either, but there are some rather crazy people in charge and it's all too easy to miscalculate these provocations.
Surprisingly 72% of Canadians live below the 49th parallel, they probably still can't grow citrus trees, though. North America is never as far north as you think it is.
Sometimes they sell cultivated blackberries in the shops. They're huge and sweet and have about 1/10th of the flavour of the wild variety; I don't see the point. At our old house I hacked the brambles down to the ground with a hedge trimmer, but they grew back in a few months. Think I'll try and avoid letting any grow in the new garden. I do have three blueberry bushes in pots which I'm planning to plant out now we've moved. My heather did pretty well so hopefully the soil is not too alkaline.
“1985 Sony Trinitron tv”
Wow, an antique. Is it 12” wide and black and white?
And cachalote = catch-a-lot which sperm whales certainly were. Weird coincidence?
Estimado THINK and DemonTree
Jan 16th, 2020 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My appointment never arrived. Lunch today was quickly improvised with empanadas made by a wonderful old lady that lives in the area. No wine today, because I never drink alcohol when I'm angry.
THINK's video clip and seeing the morning news, reinforces why we rarely watch local programming, but if I was elsewhere, I could have watched the Paty Maldonado and Pamela Jiles catfight on a smart-TV linked by my iPhone.
Back in 1985, the massive 25” Sony color TV cost me some really serious money and it was the state of the art jewel in the corner of our Viña pied-à-terre.
Our office is located up in the hillside and has an assortment of screens, but the Trinitron resides as the only TV in our old farmhouse. This contrasts to almost every campesino in the valley has a large screen plasma (including recently looted during the unrest), connected to a satellite provider.
The perfectly functioning ignored TV is sort of a metaphor of the transition from our old pied-à-terre to what we have now. Madam Defarge likes to remind me la vie est trop courte pour boire du mauvais vin.
(I can say the same applies to watching Chilean television vs. watching something far more highly elevated, such as Argentine re-runs of “Un gallo para Esculapio”.)
DemonTree, I suggest you be careful transplanting your blueberry bushes because the soil acidity difference - as they thrive in high acid soil, with a large root zone.
And speaking of the 49th parallel... Did you know that in order to leave Detroit traveling to Windsor Canada, you cross the bridge going due SOUTH? Also curious is that I find Canadians tend to be far more polite, educated and civil than their southern neighbors, but then of course there are some real asinine idiots there as well.
Anyway, I'm spending the night here and will not leave the farm until I resolve an unexpected problem. No wine tonight.
Con 3 o 4 docenas de las buenas de pino con merkén..., huevo duro..., pasas y una aceituna verde con hueso pá romperse las muelas..., quién necesita vino...?
Jan 16th, 2020 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Chicureo
Jan 16th, 2020 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Doubt the consequences of Gollum's prolonged solitary confinement can be reversed.... not even the citrus tree site can help him...he's too far gone.
Proof that he IS a liar, is the fact that above he wrote “if I was living in Canada I would say so”....just another lie, as he has always refused point blank to say where he hides out...OR perhaps we should presume that he lives in such a terrible shithole, that IF he lived in Canada, he would (be only too proud to) say so ?
You never know with such a pompous liar. The only certainty is that he lives underground...with rats and roaches..
DT
The link from Reuters (regarding “...how would the Iranians be sure the bases had been evacuated ?”) is not particularly convincing......an “anonymous” source said Iran “was believed” to have deliberately missed...(American military personnel)”
It'll take more than that to convince me, and as far as the alleged death of Americans is concerned, it was transmitted over Iran's State TV, and by the official news agency (MEHR), the source supposedly being the Quds. The translation was the least of it.
But ok, it's possible that the iranians planned an ineffective attack 'n then bragged about killing Americans, one, to not step too hard on Uncle Sam's toes, and two, just a bit of Iranian bravado, to try to not lose face....which just reinforces my opinion of Iran's leadership.
Do you really believe they complied 100% with the terms of the nuclear treaty signed with BO in 2015 ? I don't....not even then.
But returning to a more pleasant subject, if you want to see one of the varieties of blackberries grown here, google “amora gigante portuguesa”. The ones we had on our land were a bit smaller, and sweet. Used to just pull them off in clusters - before the birds attacked them - rinse them in cold, clean water, and eat them by the handful.
Until 2013, I had a Sony Trinitron, 29” flat screen, stereo etc..a great TV, but it weighed a ton. Wonder what Gollum had ...
Jack, Estimado THINK and DemonTree
Jan 16th, 2020 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Never tried berries in Brazil, but your country has everything! I challenge you to name one type of fruit that is not grown there. (Perhaps the infamous Duran fruit...)
The specific empanadas I had are very special, because the woman that made them knew my grandfather well. She still bakes bread, leaving a white handkerchief on a stick in front of her home signifying availability. (One of my favorite farm snacks is simply grapes with fresh Marraqueta bread.)
To the best of my memory, I've never heard a disparaging comment about Canadians. They do have a large immigrant population, but everyone seems proud of being Canadian. During my l-o-n-g late term abortion debate, our troll angrily revealed hid his/her/its residence. It's still buried in the archives...
Our table grape crop will be great, but as of today we have no access for pre-cooling/cold storage and I need to find another. I have less than a month before the harvest. The avocado crop will be the largest ever, but we have to remain vigilant.
Growing avocados can be complicated, but not extremely dangerous like Mexico. Really chilling! https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10734265/maria-esquivel-la-catrina-sicaria-jalisco-new-generation-cartel-cjng-bridges-avocados/
Chicureo
Jan 16th, 2020 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We got empanadas to eat while driving from El Chaltén back to El Calafate. Very convenient and quite a lot like pasties, but I'm sure nothing like as good as the ones you had. For a while I was watching a Chilean programme I found on YouTube called Alerta Máxima Fronteras. It was over dramatic but a bit easier to follow since it was obvious what they were talking about.
I'm impressed your ancient TV is still working, and that you haven't been tempted to replace it with a 50 inch flat screen.
“in order to leave Detroit traveling to Windsor Canada, you cross the bridge going due SOUTH?”
It's like how in Panama you can watch the sun rise over the Pacific and set above the Atlantic.
JB
“Do you really believe they complied 100% with the terms of the nuclear treaty signed with BO in 2015 ?”
Let's say 95%. I expect they'll be stepping up their efforts a lot now though. It cannot have escaped their notice the difference in treatment between Saddam who got rid of his WMDs and Kim Jong Un who kept his...
I googled your giant blackberries and it seems they're a totally different species to ours, which I would have guessed from the dissimilar foliage. Apparently it's a tree called black mulberry in English, related to the stuff they feed silkworms. The berries really are huge, and it says you can grow them in the UK - reckon it's worth it?
Jack Bauer Proof less & Truth less
Jan 16th, 2020 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse -1”IF he lived in Canada, he would (be only too proud to) say so ? “ Well that confirms that you for fill the statistical requirement of dumbness because I have told you previously, how I acquired my sobriquet, and where.
As for the rest of your inane diatribe, again, a classic psychological projection. You have just displayed the finer workings of what goes on in your mind hahaha, thanks I needed that laugh.
Chicureo
Jan 16th, 2020 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How about “pitaias” ? I know it's not a berry, but it's what came to mind...the ones from Columbia are delicious....but to be honest they are starting to grow them here, although (still) a bit flavourless ....and cherries.
Duran fruit ? or Durian ? if the latter, supossed to be very tasty (sweet) but reportedly stinks pretty bad. Don't know if grown here. Anyway, a similar fruit is the 'jaca'...which I don't like.
Looks like being an avocado grower in Mexico can be hazardous to your health...
Shicuréo...
Jan 16th, 2020 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) I accept the challenge and name the Magellan Barberry or “Michay”..., cachái...?
(Btw..., it's Durian and it's delicious...)
2) If you never have heard disparaging comments about Canadians is because you never dealt with Barrick or Goldcorp... A true bunch of corruptors those guys...
3) You must be REALLY desperately bored to be watching that Engrish Sun's Violence-Porn...!
Do cranberries grow in Brazil? How about cloudberries?
Jan 16th, 2020 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chicureo, if you want to see something bad about Canadians look up how they kept selling asbestos to the third world after it was banned in their own country.
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 16th, 2020 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“Angrily revealed hid his/her/its residence”
You're a flat out liar, our exchange came about because you announced “Terry I forgot you and Enrique both live in Canada..”
(https://en.mercopress.com/2018/12/26/pro-choice-groups-will-try-again-in-2019-to-legalize-abortion-in-argentina/comments#comment496245), and I replied “You have absolutely no idea where I live? But, isn't in Canada.”
DemonTree
Jan 16th, 2020 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Empanadas in Chile are somewhat boring compared to the rest of Latin America. In Chile alone they're at least a dozen common varieties, but the national favorite is beef. (Pino)
I remember elderberries as a boy, but no one seems to have them here any more. There are a lot of fruitless Mulberries planted here in Chile for shade and the pollen is very irritating to a select group of people.
I recommend you find a reputable nursery in your area for recommendations.
Jack
You're correct about the spelling of the odious fruit. “Dragon fruit” (pitaias) are very much in vogue, they're great for decoration, but not that flavorful.
By the way, I forgot to mention the pomegranate trees on the farm. They're messy, but delicious in the fall.
Estimado THINK
Ok, you win on both accounts. There are millions of Asians ...and apparently some demented Scandinavians that are diehard fans. There are actual laws restricting bringing them into hotels in Asia. (No, I've never tried one.)
Regarding Canadians: ... well the Useful Idiot has proven your point about the odious, mendacious and imbecile residents there... (They need to recheck their posts in the archives.)
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 17th, 2020 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse +1“Regarding Canadians ...” How pathetic you are, I have revealed you as liar as there's nothing in the thread that supports your assertion. ”The burden of proof lies upon him who affirms, not on him who denies, (since by the nature of things, he who denies a fact cannot produce any proof).“
Soma's Dictionary of Latin Quotations, Maxims and Phrases: A Compendium of ...
”Has proven your point about” Proof less & Truth less is of no help, he was shown to be complete dumbass. When reminded of a previous exchange, where what he claims is totally bogus.
Chicureo
Jan 17th, 2020 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Elderberries grow in the hedges here, as well as blackcurrents and redcurrents. None are great for eating but they make good cordials. I also made slow gin and blackberry liqueur with fruit from my garden. Agree about dragon fruit, they look pretty but don't taste of much.
We also have a lot of streets planted with all male fruit trees so the local councils could avoid having to deal with fruit. It's caused a big increase in allergies.
Brazil has such a range of climates there can't be much that won't grow in some area or other. Chile must also have a big temperature range, but I don't think there are any really wet areas?
Jack is right about Terry, he's always refused to say where he lives so there's no way he'd admit to living in Canada. Trouble is he believes his own lies so he's completely lost touch with the truth. It must suck to be so very bad at the thing you love.
DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
Jan 17th, 2020 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“Jack is right about Terry,...” The dummy was given that information at the time. (https://en.mercopress.com/2020/01/11/iran-admits-it-downed-unintentionally-the-ukrainian-jet-killing-176-people/comments#comment506355) The fact that he has forgotten
is his problem, if does research he should find it.
So at the end of the day I proven there are two liars and an apologist. While all you can do is assert without proof. Which, means the failure to meet your BoP, is proof they are false.
DemonTree
Jan 17th, 2020 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“...but I don't think there are any really wet areas?”
Agree with everything, but Chile actually has one of the wettest regions on earth in the south and the driest place on earth in the north. We do not have a tropical climate area.
I spent the night in the farmhouse alone which gave me a good chance to think through my current challenges. In 1985 we had our primary residence in Valparaiso and were part of the large ménage à famille that shared the house here, that as time progresses, becomes less used.
Perhaps this coming winter, we'll renovate the house interior and eliminate the clutter, but I plan on keeping the Trinitron until it dies along with my shortwave radio...
Today I either resolve my cold storage problem or fall upon my sword...
You're correct in your assessment about what Jack Bauer knows. He took the original insult diatribes and spent time doing a background check. (He used the same strategy that was used to track the Unibomber in the USA.)
Today's available software does an excellent analysis of an author through composition comparison.
Sort of reminds me of Shakespeare's quote about protesting too much...
DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
Jan 17th, 2020 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“You're correct in your assessment about what Jack Bauer knows” Little to nothing, the proof of which is. Then it cannot be true, since you bear the burden of proof, as you're making the claim. “Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy; States of Affairs; First published Tue Mar 27, 2012
Philosophers connect sentences with various items, such as thoughts, facts and states of affairs. Thoughts are either true or false in an absolute sense, never both or neither.“
plato.stanford.edu/entries/states-of-affairs/
DemonTree
Jan 17th, 2020 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Forgive my earlier misspelling. Theodore John Kaczynski, also known as the Unabomber, was revealed by his unique style of writing...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski
“Kaczynski wrote his documents on a typewriter without italics; he capitalized entire words to show emphasis. He always referred to himself as either ”we“ or ”FC“ (”Freedom Club”), though there is no evidence that he worked with others. Academics analyzed the writing and noted that it contains irregular spelling and hyphenation and other linguistic idiosyncrasies, which led them to conclude that Kaczynski was its author.”
Now using software analysis, you can easily identify the personality of author, similar to handwriting analysis, but far more detailed.
...linguistic idiosyncrasies...
No analysis is needed to identify Terry, you just have to look for his quotes, endlessly repeated without comprehension, like some kind of talisman...
Jan 17th, 2020 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's the vexatious litigant of Mercopress, never relenting no matter how many 100s of times he loses an argument.
DT, Chicureo
Jan 17th, 2020 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cranberries aren't grown here....but world's largest producer, Ocean Spray (USA), exports them to BZL. Neither are cloudberries, but we buy Nestle's coffee capsules, some of which are flavoured with cloudberry. Blueberries grow here 'n becoming very popular.
On Gollum :
Way above, Gollum stated (to Chicureo, 3 days ago) : “I have never stated where I live on a public forum. Hmm if this were true, where's the citation”.
So, he says he's never told us where he lives...'n he states he does not live in Canada...is it a lie or he has just been deported ? In either case, why so secretive ? And why does he get so upset when someone criticizes Canada ?
I think it's a great country (after all, I'm a citizen), but no country is perfect.
Then a bit lower, I posted, ”IF he lived in Canada, he'd (be only too proud to) say so“, to which an indignant Gollum replied : ”Well that confirms that you 'for fill' (what ?!) the statistical requirement of dumbness because I have told you previously, how I acquired my 'sobriquet', and where“.
Quick side note on ”Sobriquet” (how chic...'n pedantic) :- defined as “a nickname, sometimes assumed, but often given by another and being descriptive in nature”.
Presume he assumed the “sobriquet” of 'local legend', because he either misunderstood when they called him 'legendary local village idiot', OR perhaps, he became a legend as the champion lavatory cleaner for 10 years running, in the RAF.....which would probably mean he resides (or resided) in the UK...
But, 2 posts above, in reply to DT's comment “Jack is right about Terry, he's always refused to say where he lives...”, Gollum writes : ”The dummy (who ? me ?) was given that information at the time. The fact that he has forgotten is his problem, if does research he should find it”.
So now he claims he DID inform someone - me (JB), “...at the time...”, ('n on MP, a “public forum” !), but that I have forgotten”.
So, a slight contradiction, or just another LIE ?
Jack Bauer Proof less & Truth less
Jan 17th, 2020 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse -1I have never stated where I live on a public forum. Hmm if this were true, where's the citation”.
You must be hoping anyone who reads your post is more stupid than you, highly unlikely.
”The burden of proof lies upon him who affirms, not on him who denies, (since by the nature of things, he who denies a fact cannot produce any proof).“
Soma's Dictionary of Latin Quotations, Maxims and Phrases: A Compendium of ...
I have stated where I have lived in past. I have been on the net since '95 so I pay heed to the various advisements about postings. Besides, where I live, or choose to reveal is a classic case of self-determination. What in the tarnation does have to do with the Three Amigos and they're lying assertions. As their long on opinions, and totally devoid of any facts to support them.
DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
“How many 100s of times he loses an argument.” Then show one instance where this occurred. You won't because it only happens in your dreams.
DemonTree the slavish student of horticulture aka “The Amateur Gardener” that should consider perhaps planting asparagus and Jack Bauer, the RELENTLESS revealer of mendacious subterranean fools frightful of THEIR self-identity.
Jan 17th, 2020 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You're correct in your assessment about what little the Canadian knows” Little to nothing, the proof of which is. Then he cannot be TRUTHFUL, since he lacks the credibility of proof, as he's making the claim. Refer to Rumpole of the Bailey in a a series number of arguments. April 1, 1967, Philosopher, British writer and barrister John Mortimer, CITED with excepts from the Poetry Encyclopedia of Humor; Foolishness of Idiots; First published In the last century, before April 1, 1955. Conclusively fail to connect sentences with various items, such as thoughts, FACTS and states of affairs. “Thoughts are either true or false in an absolute sense, never both or neither are nonsense.”
Important Rumpole wisdom to consider instead and enjoy:
* A propensity for quoting 'that old sheep of the lake district,' William Wordsworth. He is also fond of quoting many of the 'greats' of English literature, including: Keats, Shakespeare, Kipling and Shelly. His preferred reading is the Oxford Book of English Verse, but only the older edition edited by Sir Arthur Quiller-Couch.
* A fondness for small cigars and cheap claret, a.k.a. 'Chateau Fleet Street' or 'Chateau Thames Embankment' in Pommeroy's wine bar frequented by Rumpole and other members of Chambers.
* A taste for a 'fried slice' with his breakfast at the Tast-Ee-Bite cafe in Fleet Street.
* And above all else, avoiding direct confrontation with She Who Must be Obeyed! AKA Madam Defarge
...Look, I'm now writing like a deranged Canadian idiot”...
Signed a new cold storage services agreement before having pleasant lunch in San Felipe with chicken cazuela and a goblet of Chateau Thames Embankment. Now waiting for a case of asparagus from a neighbor before returning to Chicureo.
¡Saludos!
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 17th, 2020 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“She Who Must be Obeyed!” Yeah we all get picture, you're just little hen-pecked farm-boy.
Who's real life is so disenchanting that your only excitement, is to lie on public forum.
Gollum's posting times don't fit the UK timezone, so unless he really is a teenager who lives with Mummy and stays up till 3am playing computer games every night, he's not in this hemisphere. Thank god.
Jan 17th, 2020 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And of course Jack knows where his nickname came from: he was the one who gave him the name Gollum. No mystery there.
Canada seems to be a pretty good country all around, except for the climate maybe. Has the good parts of the USA without the general craziness.
Chicureo
Bravo on your very accurate imitation! And congrats on sorting out your cold storage problems.
There are fields full of asparagus where my mum lives, we saw people harvesting it when I visited last year. Apparently they all come from Eastern Europe for a few months and then go back, dunno what will happen after Brexit.
Geeeeeee...
Jan 17th, 2020 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +1This Terraced Hill has by far been me best sock puppet creation to date...
It singlehanded keeps MercoPress's worst brainwashed Nazo-Fascist busy...
By the way fellas..., have you seen what your Hero's culture minister just declared...?
https://mobile.twitter.com/ptbrasil/status/1218160692760543233
Geeeeee..., I adore Lohengrin...!
Chuckle..., chuckle...
(Cheeers with a goblet of excellent organic Merlot del Maule..., Angiolino Maule..., that is...;-)
DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
Jan 17th, 2020 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“Jack knows where his nickname came from”, his very own 'psychological projection'.(https://www.everydayhealth.com/emotional.../psychological-projection-dealing-with-un..)
Must be nice for an afraid wannabe like you to find someone's footsteps to follow. I know it's great big scary world for a little dweeb like you, on your own.
Chicureo, DT
Jan 17th, 2020 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I have never stated where I live on a public forum. Hmm if this were true, where's the citation”. (Gollum)
He claims “I have stated where I have lived in past”.....ah yes, those are the key words ...“in the past”.......to be honest, I must admit I don't bother reading his posts very carefully (waste of time) and have no intention of going back years looking for crap he may or may not have stated, or implied (even greater waste of time)....but I believe I do recall him having said he had once lived in Brazil...for a short while... in Bahia, I think.....and that was the source of his frustration regarding toilets and inadequate plumbing systems, forcing him to put his used bog roll in a bin beside the potty. He must have lived in the Alagados slum, easily the stinkiest place in Brazil. Later on, and due to his short stay in Brazil, which presumably turned him into an authority on everything Brazilian, he clammed up about his “moradia”.
But he must have also lived (in the past !) in the UK...where else would have earned the 'sobriquet' of 'local idiot' or 'Master Lavatory Cleaner' in the RAF ? He even showed us his mug that he used to scoop up the poop.
But quite frankly, where Gollum hides out is irrelevant to his stupidity.
Just one more, as enough space ....his post of yesterday at about 8PM his local time = “...confirms that you 'for fill' the statistical requirement....”......'for fill' ? WTF ? plain ignorance.
Chicureo, we get fantastic asparagus from Perú.....in a recent documentary, saw that some shipments are used to hide drugs....which keeps the Peruvian anti-drug enforcement agents, pretty busy.
Jack Bauer Proof less & Truth less
Jan 17th, 2020 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse -1'Master Lavatory Cleaner' sorry buddy that must be a title for a 'pioneer corp' operator, which is an exclusive unit of the army. So you have with your 'psychological projection' revealed what your task was in the army.
“I believe I do recall” Then it cannot possibly be true as it is the word of the biggest liar on this site.
http://en. mercopress.com/2018/04/04/brazil-s-conundrum-army-chief-twits-good-citizens-repudiate-impunity-and-respect-the-constitution/comments#comment486481
http://en. mercopress.com/2017/07/12/brazil-former-president-lula-da-silva-found-guilty-of-corruption/comments#comment470714
http://en. mercopress.com/2017/07/20/ex-brazilian-president-assets-and-bank-accounts-frozen/comments#comment471145
http://en.mercopress.com/2018/03/20/lula-begins-tour-of-south-brazil-and-meets-mujica-but-it-was-a-bad-day-for-both-leaders/comments#comment485779
http://en. mercopress.com/2018/11/22/brazil-s-secret-dealings-to-contract-cuban-physicians-to-work-in-the-more-doctors-program/comments#comment495051
DemonTree/Jack
Jan 17th, 2020 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm back in Chicureo, blessed and immensely thankful to have been so highly fortunate in being enchanted by she who must be obeyed.
I very proudly accept the distinction of being a pig slopping, hen-pecked farm-boy, at heart and currently sharing a beautiful summer's afternoon living life like a gypsy with Madam Defarge.
Tonight we're having grilled asparagus, of which many spears will be wrapped with a paper thin slices of Jamón Ibérico. We're pairing it with a chilled Montes Alpha Viognier.
Life is very good!
I completely agree about the timeline logic which squarely positions him/her/it close to GMT -3 plus or minus. Also I distinctly remember the idiot “expertly” lecturing erroneously a Brazilian about bathroom fixtures in Brazil...
But best of all, he letting it slip his location/living situation. Why does the pathetic idiot hide like a cockroach? Especially Canada.
Asparagus is highly labor intensive and profitable. My neighbor even grows a tiny portion of his crop under clay pots to achieve white asparagus which is a German tradition.
Personally I prefer the green, but I appreciate why the white is so prized. We have about 15 kilos of green, refrigerated - most standing vertical on moistened paper towels, on baking sheets. (This is the last of the harvest.)
My other favorite preparation is sautéed in garlic butter.
Estimado THINK
With all due admiration, I'm incredibly impressed of your successful convincing sock puppet ruse ever...
...if indeed that is what you are implying...
None of us realized that our “useful idiot” might reside in Chubut...
Speaking of those National Socialist types, it's interesting the generous asparagus grower I met today is an alumnus of the exclusive Deutsche Schule in Santiago and his children study there. His tribe are founding members of the Club Manquehue and some are even directors of the Clinica Alemana. The farm has actually been documented by the Deutsche Welle.
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 17th, 2020 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“lecturing erroneously a Brazilian about bathroom fixtures in Brazil...” You mean revealing this dumb liar.
JB “He who claims all bathrooms in Brazil, … have poop receptacles, can be dismissed for being an idiot”
“In common with most Latin American countries, the sewage system in Brazil can't cope with paper being flushed, so use the bin provided.”
https: ///www.wheredoiputthepaper.com.
“Where Do I Put my Toilet Paper? ..a trash bin. And, yes, that's where you put the paper after you used it.”
https: //thebrazilbusiness.com/article/going-to-the-toilet-in-brazil
“Living in Brazil: Electric showers, toilet litter and other oddities ..that nasty plastic basket with everyone´s used toilet paper in it. I hate being gross in my blog, but it´s a gross thing, believe me. For some unexplained reason, Brazilian piping and sewage is not compatible with toilet paper so people never flush the toilet paper down their toilets. Instead, they provide little baskets, sometimes with lids and sometimes without, beside the toilet for the toilet paper. If you refuse to use them, as I did at first, you end up blocking their entire piping system.”
https://brazilphenomenon.wordpress.com/2013/04/19/living-in-brazil-electric-showers-toilet-litter-and-other-oddities/
So thanks for giving me the opportunity to provide conclusive evidence of your unmitigated lying. You readily supply much of the same content as o saco de merda.
Jack Bauer
Jan 18th, 2020 - 01:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0It must have been the mind alternating and reality distorting hallucinating effects from over consuming of caipirinhas as well as way too much frigid Brahma beer, because the bathroom facilities I have personally experienced in your country are world class.
Obviously the poor live with far inferior toilets and there are many people living without any indoor plumbing, but you find that everywhere in Latin America.
Changing subjects, imagine asparagus spears about the diameter of your small finger, lightly sautéed in garlic butter...
Could you consume a half kilo as a single meal? I failed, but valiantly tried.
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 18th, 2020 - 03:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0The o saco de merda is found in every bathroom in Brazil, regardless of class or income it is the norm. Including all malls, hotels and airports.
”This means that bathroom tissue does not go in the toilet. There is a small garbage in the toilet, and that is where you are supposed to dispose of the soiled paper.
https://acanadianinbrazil.com/2019/09/02/bathrooms-in-brazil/
Jack Bauer
Jan 18th, 2020 - 04:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well his/her/its latest post puts the location right about at GMT -4
“The o saco de merda is found in every bathroom in Brazil, regardless of class or income it is the norm. Including all malls, hotels and airports.” Clearly explains that he's never been in Brazil.
He could have migrated from Canada, but I doubt he's scampered from his subterranean nest.
Dunno why Terry is so obsessed with toilets. In Argentina some of them had a sign saying you should flush the toilet paper, some had a sign saying you should NOT flush it, and some had no sign at all, leaving you to guess. Quite annoying in a foreign country where the food can often disagree with you.
Jan 18th, 2020 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chicureo the farm boy ;)
Does your asparagus growing friend also grow avocados, in a dry part of Chile?
We had some friends round last night to show them our new house, and ate asparagus with the salmon. Not the local product sadly, since it's the wrong time of year.
One of them got a drone for Christmas, he showed us some videos he had made; nice quality and very steady. Hopefully this will last longer than his last one, which he got stuck in a tree on its first flight!
Here it is: https://www.dji.com/uk/mobile/mavic-mini
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 18th, 2020 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your opinion with no supporting facts versus my four independent posters plus my opinion, no contest I prove my claim hands down.
Shicuréo...
Jan 18th, 2020 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Club Manquehue...? Never heard of it...
Maybe you mean the Deutscher Sportverein in Vitacura...?
By the way..., some of the South Cone Germanic/Scandinavian Clans down here find a bit “ungemütlich” that strange tendency of some Spanisch ones to almost automatically “Mention the War”...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yfl6Lu3xQW0
Capisce...?
DemonTree
Jan 18th, 2020 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Dunno why Terry is so obsessed with toilets.” The purpose as you well know, is to show Proof less & Truth less is an absolute liar, and so is his reactionary pal.
DemonTree
Jan 18th, 2020 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0His his family farms are in the same Aconcagua valley and aquifer as I do, and yes -- his farm was the same one unfairly shown in the DW video.
As I said before, the other farms and people portrayed were in the drought stricken valley aquifer to the north.
Nice drone, they just get better and better...
Your observations about Argentine toilets could be applied to some Brazilian ones as well.
Estimado THINK
Fawlty Towers was so damn funny.
The club you mention and know was sadly dissolved as a consequence of WWII. ...una necesidad para la supervivencia de la colonia alemana en Chile. Y así como al término de la II Guerra el águila negra, blanca y roja volvió a volar, pero esta vez bajo el nombre de “Club Deportivo Manquehue”.
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 18th, 2020 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Your observations about Argentine toilets could be applied to some Brazilian ones” Is an absolute lie, Brazilian washrooms never have a sign saying you should flush the toilet paper“. Since your claim shows no confirmation, it's thus false.
”Thoughts are either true or false in an absolute sense, never both or neither.”
plato.stanford.edu/entries/states-of-affairs/
Shicuréo...
Jan 18th, 2020 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jupppp... seems to be that “Club Deportivo Manquehue” was the Mapudungun name chosen for the morphing of the Teutonic Eagle into the Teutonic Condor...
Small pro-forma price to pay for keeping der Sportverein going and them Spaniard locals happy...
Chicureo
Jan 18th, 2020 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wonder why they picked him to interview, then?
Saco de Merda
3 of the 4 people you are talking to live in South America and all of us think you are more full of shit than a Rio sewer. Who exactly do you think you're going to convince?
DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
Jan 18th, 2020 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“3 of the 4 people you are talking to live in South America and all of us think ...” No they claim, but they provide no evidence to support their BoP. Thus, their claim must be false since it is impossible to be true, just one more exposé of JB, and Chicureo the Geographically Challenged as 'outed' liars, plus you the little slavish apologist.
Whereas, I have the evidence of four witnesses to support my claim. The Three Amigos can't provide one solitary piece of evidence to support their dishonesty.
DemonTree
Jan 18th, 2020 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As you know, I've been exalted and praised by being a hog slopping - hen pecked farm boy, but in truth - I'm deeply involved in a worldwide crime syndicate, well documented. https://youtu.be/Z3EzIJxy8w8
You can understand why I invested in UAV drone technology. They fly on continuous schedules and the cameras have ultra low light sensitivity.
The German embassy recommended DW to contact the Schmidt family, to tour their beautiful avocado farm in the Aconcagua valley before then touring about 90 kilometers north and document a drought stricken valley on an entirely different minor aquifer, in a region that is over-planted as well as poorly administered.
When the documentary was released world wide, the Schmidt family was completely appalled. The truth in fact is they are very nice people and treat their workers well. They qualify for TESCO NURTURE Gold certification.
Regarding the salmon and asparagus dinner you recently enjoyed, I'm curious how the asparagus prepared and seasoned?
TH
Jan 18th, 2020 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, you obviously weren't a pilot in the RAF, and with your low IQ, you had to have been only suitable for cleaning toilets. Which you even bragged about, showing us your mug...
”The 'o saco de merda' (how descriptive, Gollum !) is found in every bathroom in Brazil, regardless of class or income it is the norm. Including all malls, hotels and airports..“
I knew I could get you frothing at the mouth by mentioning bins for poop paper.....LoL. You are a liar but that's ok.
Yeah, you did spout some crap about Bahia....but who cares, living in a slum anywhere in Brazil is much the same. Your fixation with poop paper bins is understandable, given the location and type of construction you hid in while living in Brazil, and although I have seen the receptacles you love so much, in public restrooms, I have never lived in a house that needed them, neither in any of my friends' houses, I frequented. Tough luck if if makes you envious, but that's life Gollum.
Tell me Gollum, why do you even bother posting all those MP links ? who is going to read them ?
Wow, this time I overdid it....spent two whole minutes on you.
Chicureo
Your grilled asparagus, wrapped in slices of ”pata negra” type jamón, sounds damned good....as does your choice of wine ! Will try it.
These are some of the small pleasures of life, nice to indulge oneself in, especially after a productive day. I also appreciate the white asparagus, a unique flavour, and the aroma of which can (when fresh out of the glass jar), IMO, be detected in a good sauvignon blanc.
“Changing subjects, imagine asparagus spears about the diameter of your small finger, ...”
Luckily, don't need to, we get some that are 20 mm in diametre...very nice with good olive oil 'n salt.
Two years back, while in NYC (the “Palm” restaurant), I ordered the green asparagus as a side-dish to a 900 gramme NY sirloin steak, medium/rate (closer to rare).....it was about half-a-kilo, but I had my better half's help to polish it off.
Jack Bauer Proof less & Truth less
Jan 18th, 2020 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You had to have been only suitable for cleaning toilets.” Fortunately RAF rated me better than that, since I had my pick of any trade available. I ended up till 1963 as an Electronic Counter Measures technician.
You on the other hand did work in such an environment and the fact that you keep attempting to 'psychologically project' reveals what your task was in the army. Latrines were never part of our technical proficiency, they appear to have been the exclusive domain of pongos like you.
“The pioneer Corps were the ones that went in first to do the digging of latrines,”
https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-736186.html
”ArmyStudyGuide.com provide extensive information about Field Facilities for Human Waste Disposal (ArmyStudyGuide.com) ... Deep Pit Latrine. ...
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“By mentioning bins for poop paper...... You are a liar” On the contrary, I have provided four witnesses that confirm my claim, and categorically refute your denial. Your 'outed' liar.
Gollum,
Jan 18th, 2020 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Fortunately RAF rated me better than that, since I had my pick of any trade available. I ended up till 1963 as an Electronic Counter Measures technician”.
”My oh my ! a “technician” ....yeah, would have to be “Fortunately” (for you), as NOT a college degree ....and “...pick of any trade available...” (I'm impressed....not really) .....anyway, only one little problem with your assertion - the BoP lies upon him who affirms....which is YOU....without it, you must a LIAR.
Here we go, back to poop...I know it's not very constructive, but your “I have provided four witnesses that confirm my claim”....has to be a game-changer (only in your pathetic little head...sorry, BIG head, Gollum).... I could provide 100 witnesses, from my Condo....to prove you wrong. TGYS.
Your continual excuses, are the sign of a liar....someone who tells the truth doesn't need to keep on repeating lies in order to convince others. Just saw a nice little phrase (somewhere above) which sums up your bs nicely :“no contest I prove my claim hands down”.
Ah, btw, “The o saco de merda”, is incorrect....means “The 'the bag of shit' ”....“the 'saco de merda' ”, or just “o saco de merda” would be better....So, one “the” too many, you self-proclaimed Brazilian language scholar...
Jack/DemonTree
Jan 18th, 2020 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because of the weather, Madam Defarge of has prepared this evening a cold platter of yellow grape tomatoes, grilled asparagus, grilled and marinated olive oil/balsamic vinegar Italian squash, eggplant, mild red pepper and artichoke hearts. Served with olives, goat cheese, thinly sliced basque style pickled tongue, roasted elephant garlic paste and thin slices of toasted bread.
Although not my favorite, I've opened a bottle of Pinot Noir Casillero del Diablo as a stronger red alternative is worthless pairing with the vinegar marinade.
Now waiting for sunset...
More about the slandered Schmidt family's farm as the largest Chilean grower of the Nature's Pride marketing group. Good overview of the avocado business.
https://youtu.be/g0DPZjdHORg
Regarding Gollum: Curiouser and Curiouser the depth of the creature's demented mendacity...
Nothing wrong about cleaning latrines. All first year cadets are assigned the task. If you misbehave, you are assigned a second years latrine duty as well.
What I find incredulous is the creature claims it/she/it was a RAF rated technical enlisted member of the armed forces in 1963. Meaning it/she/it would have entered the service 1961. ...Gollum is over 77? ...why does Gollum write like an adolescent? ...electronic countermeasures? I served in the signals corps and I can easily see the pathetic bullshit in that hallucination. ...The crime of “stolen valor” is unforgivable!
Jack Bauer Proof less & Truth less
Jan 18th, 2020 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have provided four independent witnesses that confirm my claim. “I could provide 100 witnesses” You haven't provided one independent witness to counter my four. Your BS is busted you're revealed as you are, for all to see, congratulations. Try the truth for once then you don't have to try and cover your ass.
“A “technician” ....yeah, would have to be” Much better than your stint in the Pioneer Corp.
1 × AN/APR-4, 1 × AN/APR-9, 6 × AN/APT-16, 3 × AN/ALT-7, 6 × AIRBORNE CIGAR, 1 × CARPET, 4 WINDOW
Wide (38-1000MHz) band receiver Wide (1000-10750MHz) band receiver Centimetric radar jammers
UHF comms jammers,VHF comms jammers, Spot jammer (400-1400 MHz)
Fig 6. Typical EW Fit in No 18 Sqn’s Valiants.
The Valiant element subsequently acquired sole title to the squadron numberplate before moving to Finningley in 1958 where it was promptly renumbered as No 18 Sqn.
page 67, Royal Air Force Historical Society Journal 28; First published in the UK in 2003 by the Royal Air Force Historical Society. ISSN 1361-4231
Jack
Jan 18th, 2020 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I personally supervised ELINT specialists. Gollum is mumbling ridiculous gibberish.
The Casillero del Diablo is taking it effect...
”He sat on as the sun's rays came slowly down through the trees, lower and lower, and when the lowest reached a branch not far above him it caught a dewdrop poised upon a leaf. The drop instantly blazed crimson, and a slight movement of his head made it show all the colours of the spectrum with extraordinary purity, from a red almost too deep to be seen through all the others to the ultimate violet and back again.” ~ Patrick O'Brian
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 19th, 2020 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The crime of “stolen valor” is unforgivable!” You may do that, I don't have to, I went right through the Cuban Missile Crisis on a base that carried hydrogen bombs. Lets see you were in a navy that waged war on its own population. Must be tough keeping those pesky Bolivians from invading.
“I served in the signals corps...” so you know your semaphore, not quite the same.
Gollum doesn't even understand what I asked him. He's definitely a diode short of a radio set...
Jan 19th, 2020 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0I also noticed the double 'the', but he can't get things right in one language so what do you expect?
Chicureo
Sounds very dishonest of DW. Does that mean I've already seen the valley your farm is in? I remember them talking about 'Lei-Lei' in the documentary...
The asparagus was just boiled and served with butter. We've tried frying it instead but my partner didn't prefer it that way. Also one of our guests is coeliac and lactose intolerant which limits options - such is modern life. They did all seem to appreciate the salmon with sumac, it's not a commonly eaten spice. Also had mashed sweet potato with ginger which is a bit different. Your meals sound a lot more exciting, but it was still pretty good.
PS. It's 'incredible'. Incredulous means disbelieving. Unlike Gollum you probably care about being right...
DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
Jan 19th, 2020 - 01:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Doesn't even understand what I asked him” I answered at following, incidentally you must be short of couple of double-super heterodynes
https://en.mercopress.com/2020/01/11/iran-admits-it-downed-unintentionally-the-ukrainian-jet-killing-176-people/comments#comment506410
DT “I also noticed the double ...”
”It used to be we thought that people who went around correcting other people's grammar were just plain annoying. Now there's evidence they are actually ill, suffering from a type of obsessive-compulsive disorder/oppositional defiant disorder (OCD/ODD). Researchers are calling it Grammatical Pedantry Syndrome, or GPS.“ illinois.edu/blog/view/25/76120
“Grammar Pedantry Syndrome” is a form of OCD in which sufferers need to correct every grammatical error.” twitter.com/uberfacts/status/218151002707206145
“A pedant is a person who is excessively concerned with formalism, accuracy, ... Asperger syndrome often have behaviour characterized by pedantic speech.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedant
DemonTree
Jan 19th, 2020 - 02:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0I really was “incredulous” of Gollum's delusions. Although it's true I know flag semaphore...
I really love the quip “a diode short of a radio set” which is hilarious.
As I mentioned, our family farm is also in the Aconcagua valley, but located further up the river, closer to San Felipe. The terrain is very similar to the larger Schmidt family's operation.
There is a serous debate about how to prepare asparagus including boiling, steaming, sautéing, grilling and baking.
Also there are purists that insist only olive oil and others smothering with sauce. I'm open to just about anything.
I have never tried sumac before, and I'm intrigued. The ginger I heartily agree with. I'm a big fan of seafood, especially salmon, but the sad crime is to overcook fish.
Have you tried lemon pepper?
By the way, dinner, I forgot to mention the grilled sweet red onions on the cold platter. For your winter, do you ever prepare French onion soup? One of my favorites.
Chicureo the Geographically Challenged
Jan 19th, 2020 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0“It's true I know flag semaphore... ” Not much help in countering USSR nuclear aggression.
“a diode” electronic valve that only allows current in one direction, rather like those that simply opine but can never proffer proof. Thus proving there isn't any, so at the end of the day the Three lying Amigos can't even get out of the starting blocks.
DT, Chicureo
Jan 19th, 2020 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gollum and Goebbels have something in common : the belief that repeating a lie often enough and it'll become the truth. Also, a big head but a small brain.
His mistake regarding the “saco de merda” is irrelevant really, specially for a non-native (and non) speaker, but coming from Gollum, the self-proclaimed expert on everything Brazilian, I presumed it included the language as well...
It claims it has provided 4 independent witnesses...Ah yes, and I wonder 'who might these illustrious gentlemen be' ? and what exactly did they witness ?
Who is Gollum trying to impress with “1 × AN/APR-4, 1 × AN/APR-9, 6 × AN/APT-16, 3 × AN/ALT-7, 6 × AIRBORNE CIGAR, 1 × CARPET, 4 WINDOW” etc ?
It can be copied from the internet.
“Not much help in countering USSR nuclear aggression”....and I suppose he wants us to believe that by waving his shit-soiled toothbrush (also used to clean the toilets) at the Soviets, that he, single-handedly, deterred their nuclear aggression...get's better all the time.
Chicureo, sounds like after the Casillero de Diablo, your mind drifted back to Stephen Maturin......a familiar feeling, a moment of satisfaction and complete relaxation...
Gollum brings out his tired old quotes again. It's like conversing with a chatbot - write a certain keyword and get a vaguely related quote back. Most chatbots have better English, though. And you'd think if he'd really lived in Brazil he'd speak at least a little of the language, but no.
Jan 19th, 2020 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chicureo
Flag semaphore doesn't sound amazingly useful. Did you ever need to use it to communicate while you were in the navy?
It's weird seeing the green trees on such dry-looking soil. Probably just means the irrigation is efficient. Was your family's original farm in the same area?
Sumac has kind of a lemony flavour so it pairs well with fish, plus an attractive dark red colour. I got the recipe off the internet, I like experimenting but usually try to stick to simpler stuff - the cost-benefit ratio is higher and often the simple things are best anyway. My partner likes making traditional British food such as toad in the hole and shepherd's pie, which I used to not be keen on when I was younger but it's grown on me.
I think I may have eaten lemon pepper on ready-made stuff, but never used it myself. I did try making French onion soup after enjoying it on the last skiing holiday, it turned out well but took a long time. We're going back to the same resort soon so I'm planning to have it again one evening. :)
Jack Bauer Proof less & Truth less
Jan 19th, 2020 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The belief that repeating a lie” No proof, no truth.
You mean like you do all the time.
http://en.mercopress.com/2018/04/04/brazil-s-conundrum-army-chief-twits-good-citizens-repudiate-impunity-and-respect-the-constitution/comments#comment486481
http:// en.mercopress.com/2017/07/12/brazil-former-president-lula-da-silva-found-guilty-of-corruption/comments#comment470714
http:// en.mercopress.com/2018/03/20/lula-begins-tour-of-south-brazil-and-meets-mujica-but-it-was-a-bad-day-for-both-leaders/comments#comment485779
http:// en.mercopress.com/2018/11/22/brazil-s-secret-dealings-to-contract-cuban-physicians-to-work-in-the-more-doctors-program/comments#comment495051
Jack/DemonTree
Jan 19th, 2020 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pleased to see your appreciation of [Patrick O'Brian] Stephen Maturin's prose. Yesterday's summer sunset with a glass of wine did vividly reminded the ”...extraordinary purity, from a red almost too deep to be seen through all the others to the ultimate violet and back again.”
Every sailor is instructed in flag semaphore and despite the primitive method, it still is an effective alternative. World wide the system remains used today. Satellite communication however is the primary method of data communications and more...
Drip irrigation is why the arid rocky desert hillsides are so beautifully green. (It roughly costs about USD40K per hectare to plant an orchard. That does not include the cost of purchasing the land or water.)
Our original family farm is situated in the valley floor, about 10 km away from our avocado orchards. As I mentioned a long time ago, approximately 80% of our property was expropriated during the early 70s. In the mid-70s my father and uncle had the foresight to acquire the steep side property and purchase water rights.
In a nutshell: What remained of the original farm, which originally produced corn/wheat/alfalfa; they mostly planted vineyards, which is unsuitable for avocados. (Cool air always flows downward and settles on the valley floor.)
You really have me curious about sumac, especially because Madam Defarge has never heard of it either and does not remember seeing it in the supermarket. We originally used Lawry's brand lemon pepper - especially on poultry and seafood with great success, but you can make an excellent more economical alternative at home.
https://www.simplyscratch.com/2010/11/homemade-lemon-pepper-seasoning.html
DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
Jan 19th, 2020 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The whining opiner apologist, with not a solitary fact in sight.
Opinions are like buts everyones got one. Just some stink more than others.
Jack/DemonTree
Jan 19th, 2020 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ignore the “a diode short of a radio set” and embrace the positive...
It's again close to sunset and dining as a bachelor on some delicious breadsticks, goat pimento red pepper cheese, Flame seedless grapes and pared with a lovely Don Maximiano produced close to our farms. ...Heaven...
Jack, do you by chance ski as well?
Chicureo
Jan 20th, 2020 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Re semaphore, guess you need a backup when technology fails. Makes me wonder how young people brought up with GPS and satnav will cope if they ever have to navigate the old fashioned way.
USD40k is a lot! I'm pretty sure farmers here don't pay anything close to that to plant an apple orchard, and the water falls out of the sky for free (mostly). Aren't there crops you could grow that are better suited to the dry local conditions? Re your old farm, what happened to all the land that was expropriated? Is it still owned by smallholders? Sold to agribusiness? Or did the original owners get it back later?
Sumac is mostly used in Middle Eastern cuisine, and sometimes we have to get it from the foreign food aisle instead of the normal spice section. The lemon pepper looks surprisingly simple, maybe we'll try it sometime.
Jack Bauer Proof less & Truth less
Jan 20th, 2020 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Claims ... 4 independent witnesses...who might these ...be?...what exactly did they witness?”
It's a GOT YOU AGAIN, stupid is as stupid does. I'd try a new career, as you are the least successful liar on the planet.
https: //acanadianinbrazil.com/2019/09/02/bathrooms-in-brazil/
https: //brazilphenomenon.wordpress.com/2013/04/19/living-in-brazil-electric-showers-toilet-litter-and-other-oddities/
https: //thebrazilbusiness.com/article/going-to-the-toilet-in-brazil
https:///www.wheredoiputthepaper.com.
DemonTree
Jan 20th, 2020 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you remember, I mentioned a long time ago that celestial navigation is no longer necessary, but it's a viable alternative when you need it. Same with using flags and lamps to communicate. The old signal lamp for sending Morse code messages has been greatly modernized:
https://newatlas.com/us-navy-signal-lamps-fltc-texting/50523/
Did you ever see the movie: The Hunt for Red October? The Americans and Russians communicated by sonar pings and periscope telegraphy.
Anyway, my work was basically a desk assignment.
As the old farmland, a few hectares were eventually purchased, but the vast part of the farmland was re-subdivided and planted with orchards, vineyards and pasture. Most of the small holders no longer own their properties. Recently, a small 12 hectare former part of our old farm (with water rights) sold for approximately USD940k.
Farming is a risky and expensive proposition, requiring knowledge, skill and luck.
The rocky arid hillsides, originally utilized for goat grazing, could be used for vineyards and we first did initially plant a small portion in table grapes, but the the profitability was marginal.
Try roasted chicken our baked salmon with lemon pepper, applied before cooking. It not however is an alternative to fresh lemon.
DT , Chicureo
Jan 20th, 2020 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Been accompanying yr comments on semaphore / morse code....as a young kid (11-16) I was a scout, and learned both....Learned 'n passed the semaphore test early on - enjoyed waving the flags around, 'and we were tested for speed 'n accuracy - but the morse code badge - needed to become a 1st class scout - was a different cup of tea.
Chicureo
Do I ski ? Used to, but water skiing - at the SPYC (São Paulo Yacht Club) on the Guarapiranga reservoir....had friends who had speed boats with powerful outboard engines....relatively easy to get the hang of, a lot of fun, but if you weren't in shape could make your legs sore.
You're right about Don Maximiano....Heaven....but here, USD 150...only for very special occasions
Gollum,
Your idea of proof never ceases to amuse me....
I was curious to see who your “4 independent witnesses” were, but my suspicions were soon confirmed....anyhow, let's see who your 'star' witnesses are...
#1, a Canadian who laments the absence of mini-showers to wash his 'tushy'....which means he, and you, must have a smelly ass, and undies full of skid-marks.
#2, a guy worried about electric showers... full of wires and melting cables....true in many cases, but I've mostly lived in houses with hot water boilers and/or gas heated showers...he does admit it was/is more common outside the main cities, so presume his experience was acquired in some very old houses. Fresh out of College, I rented a small falt, 'n the shower was electric ...worked well, no shocks.
#3, had a problem with flush buttons....years ago the 'Hydra' brand valve was very common in good houses and flushed away practically anything...and the 2 flush button system is already quite common here (to save water).
#4, admits his report on 'where to put the paper' might not be entirely accurate or complete....says it all.
Only their opinions in specific cases, and hardly proof of anything
Sorry to inform you Burraldo, but your witnesses have proved zilch, or “nada”.
Jack
Jan 20th, 2020 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I too earned my scouting badges, that importantly prepared me for the navy as well as life in general.
Don Maximiano is also pricey here as well, but if you buy it by the case and have a discount, it's justifiable to pull a cork and savor it on a beautiful evening.
If you haven't figured it out already, Viña Errazuriz is a very close neighbor of ours in the Aconcagua Valley: http://www.errazuriz.cl
“Estar sempre alerta para servir o melhor possível.”
I've never seen The Hunt for Red October, maybe I should. I forgot you wouldn't have been out on ships, but I bet semaphore isn't much used anyway.
Jan 20th, 2020 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Looking up prices of agricultural land in the UK, that 12 hectares would cost less than half as much here (unless it had hope of planning permission). Is that due to the water rights or is land just much more valuable/profitable in Chile?
I was a Sea Scout, and had to promise to do my duty to god and the Queen. Our motto was 'Be Prepared': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BVVm2IL1oE
Jack
Makes sense to do water skiing in Brazil, it's not exactly known for snow. I'd like to try it sometime...
Jack Bauer Proof less & Truth less
Jan 20th, 2020 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I rented a small falt” don't care what you opine it is of no consequence. So you cannot produce one independent witness
There is absolutely nothing to verify your claim. You should give up lying as I expose each, and every cheat you attempt.
“let's see who your 'star' witness...”
“Going to the Toilet in Brazil
Where Do I Put my Toilet Paper?
Brazilian bathrooms have something else besides the sink and the toilet: a trash bin. And, yes, that's where you put the paper after you used it.”
Ana Gabriela Verotti Farah, Staff Writer, The Brazil Business
Chicureo
Jan 20th, 2020 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The 360° tour or Errazuriz is damned interesting....the landscape is quite impressive. How far from Santiago ?
DT
The reservoir is enormous, and you could ski in a straight line for miles, but my friends liked to screw with me and turn the boat sharply, trying to spin you out in a large and very fast circle....had to be aware of these manoeuvres and cut inside when they turned sharply.
Just some info on the reservoir...Construction started in 1906, by the“ São Paulo Tramway Light and Power Co”, and inaugurated in 1908. Its primary objective was to provide the needs of a hydroelectric power plant (Parnaíba). About 20 years later, as São Paulo grew, it became a supply of drinking water, and still is. The SPYC was inaugurated in 1912, and was the first yacht club built in the region.
DemonTree
Jan 20th, 2020 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Highly impressed you were a Sea Scout.
The movie is dated, but good. Sean Connery portrayed the Russian commander of the Red October.
The modernized system is used more than you would think. The Soviets brilliantly first developed a laser communications alternative for the lamp semaphore. (Those devices transmit an enormous amount of data in micro bursts, point to point.)
Besides lengthy sailing on the four-masted Esmeralda, I did do some minor perfunctory service aboard vessels but you're correct.
Agricultural land in Chile is highly valued and prized. My family has never sold any land we we've owned and comparable land in California is actually valued less.
Jack
It's beautiful and less than a two hour drive from Santiago. I can drive from Chicureo to the farm in an hour and 30 minutes, also (traffic permitting) drive from Viña to the farm in less than 2 hours.
I've been out on the lake by Petrolina, which I believe is the largest man-made on our continent. Your countrymen scare me with their high speed boats after consuming liters of beer.
Jack
Jan 20th, 2020 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds fun. There's a large reservoir near me called Rutland water where they do water sports, not sure if that includes water skiing. It was only built in the 70s and they drowned two villages in the process. I've cycled round it a few times, it's a nice day out with several pubs to stop at on the way.
Chicureo
Sea Scouts wasn't very impressive, we hardly ever did anything. Eventually I got bored and quit. Never learned any semaphore either, although I did memorise about half the morse alphabet and learned a few knots.
Why do navies still train recruits on sailing ships? Aren't the skills a bit irrelevant nowadays? Anyway, I wish I hadn't googled the Esmeralda. Chile has some very dark history.
DemonTree
Jan 20th, 2020 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sad you had a disappointing experience in the Sea Scouts.
I thought you already knew about the sad events...
What occurred on the Esmeralda is why I've repeatedly mentioned why I despised Admiral José Toribio Merino.
Training on sailing ships is an excellent way of creating officer morale and the lessons we learned were invaluable. The vessel has an unfortunate history, but I loved sailing aboard.
I tried to enthuse my bride in amateur sailing as recreation, but she terribly suffered from sea sickness. It was fortunate, because the sport is expensive and time consuming.
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