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Argentina/Falklands dispute at the Badminton Pan Am Cup 2020 in Brazil
Argentina is threatening a Falkland Islands team to play under the name “Islas Malvinas” or to pull out of an international competition, it has been claimed. Falkland Islands Badminton are vowing to “not give in to bullies” amid alleged tensions ahead of the Badminton Pan Am Male & Female Cup 2020, which is due to commence on Thursday. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWe on the islands know that Argentina is a bully to us and tries to force an illegal claim to our homeland and they will use every dirty tactic known to man to apply it.
Feb 13th, 2020 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse +10Even wars. Now attacks on innocent sports events.
Threats to harm the Brazillian government if they dont comply with their bullying tactics.
The world seems to turn a blind eye to What Argentina is doing even lending money that Argentina has no intention of paying back.
They are a rogue Country that stole the land from an indigenous people and still try to fo the same today.
One of the most disturbing aspects about Argentina is its failure to show any remorse for the unprovoked war of annexation launched in 1982. Perhaps it's still run by fascists?
Feb 13th, 2020 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse +6This is like the methods used by China against Taiwan, forcing them to play under a “pseudonym” (“Chinese Taipei”) and not allowing them to use their own flag. But Argentina has not the same military or economic power as China. Argentina is not even playing in this tournament, so their wishes should be ignored.
Feb 13th, 2020 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse +5oh SHUTTUP! already you drama queens, and stop distorting the narrative. “bow down to its demands” & “threatened” LOL Threatened with what? a BADMINGTON RACKET!?? roflmfao!!!
Feb 13th, 2020 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse -11The only real bully here is Britain using its power in the world to pressure Argentina and black mail it against its rightful claim to the islands.
Trimonde- Wrong.
Feb 13th, 2020 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse +3Nothing at all to do with UK - Sports team fully funded locally from within the islands.
To most of the civilized world these days Sports is above Politics- Your Govt could do to read the International Rules of the Badminton Federation.- and learn to grow up anmd stop being drama queens- appreciate this maybe difficult when you have one as Vice President.
Oh, please explain to me, who are in “the civilized world” and who are in the “uncivilized world”
Feb 13th, 2020 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse -83rd World Betts - more please. The sight of Argentina making a fool of itself once again, in front of the whole world, is just priceless. Keep the nonsense coming.
Feb 13th, 2020 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +6Trimonde
Feb 13th, 2020 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +7“The civilized world” includes at a minimum compliance with the rules of international law. Since Argentina refuses to, it is correctly called a 'rogue nation'
Noun 1. rogue nation - a state that does not respect other states in its international actions.
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/rogue+nation
Argentina slips beneath the waves in the sea of 3rd World corruption & irrelevance, the faulty life jacket of Peronist Nationalism is grabbed & a once First World power (8th richest country in world 120 years ago) quibbles about sport. They don’t know the meaning of sport!
Feb 13th, 2020 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse +7Well....
Feb 13th, 2020 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse -4That took about 15 minutes...
Islander 1
Feb 13th, 2020 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse -7Sports about politics? Look who’s talking LOL
Roger is still alive!
Think, faltaba yo gayina :-)
TWIMC...
Feb 13th, 2020 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse -60 - 5
BOSTERO...
39 - 36
Islander 1 *above politics
Feb 13th, 2020 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse -5Gayina 6-4
3-1:-)
For Pete's Sake! Let the girls have fun and compete in peace!
Feb 13th, 2020 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +5Sports should embrace friendship and not politics.
Bostero....
Feb 13th, 2020 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -5- The speaker on the linked video below is as impartial as Islander1 or Roger Lorton...
Try to guess who's his favourite... ;-)))
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r2gwdrsOFKE
That's right Stink....live up to your shitty re'puta'tion...
Feb 13th, 2020 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +6Argentina is threatening a Falkland Islands team to play under the name “Islas Malvinas” or else!
Feb 13th, 2020 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Or else?
Is Argentina perhaps going to invade the British Falkland Islands?
In need of spanking, perhaps?
A majority of the Falkland Islander have stated time and time again that they are British and wish to remian tethered to the U.K. It seems that the Justicialist Party comes back into power, the Argentinian debt looks like junk, the peso is falling and these fools stir up all this again. Let them play with the name of the locale they represent which is the “Falkland Islands”.
Feb 13th, 2020 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think
Feb 13th, 2020 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse -3That was long ago, I’m sure you remember this recent one-:))
https://youtu.be/bEfC0T7gtcE
Do you brits realize that, the Malvinas regime is considered a colonial territory under a process of decolonization in the United Nations?.
Feb 13th, 2020 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -7But you prefer to call the nation that says: Hey those fellas that want to play under the name of a fake nation called “falklands Islands” do not exist as such. They are a colony of Britain!.
Its like calling the population of a british base in the antartic as the representant of an antartic nation. Its absurd.
But i know those organizers of badminton cups might not be very pro-Argentina. Due to the influence of some strong bully called the UK.
Liberato
Feb 13th, 2020 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +5“Is considered a colonial territory under a process of decolonization in the United Nations?” No, it is not since the Islanders have enacted an act of self-determination, through a referendum.
”Decolonization (American English) or Decolonisation (British English) is the undoing of colonialism ... The fundamental right to self-determination is identified by the United Nations as core to decolonization, allowing not only independence, but also other ways of decolonization. The United Nations Special Committee on Decolonization has stated that in the process of decolonization there is no alternative to the colonizer but to allow a process of self-determination.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decolonization
Estimado Bostero...
Feb 13th, 2020 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Como dijo el gran Diego...
Boca la tiene biééėn adentro...
Tááán adentro que solo les queda hinchar por los Brasileros... :-)))
Libby - the UN have had nothing to say for 31 years. They appear to consider the question resolved.
Feb 13th, 2020 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +6As for the Badminton team, I see that they are still playing. Filmus would seem to carry little weight in Brazil. With any luck, the complaint now made to the World Federation will see Argentina, at the least, - criticised.
Mr. Roger Lorton...
Feb 13th, 2020 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -4You say...:
***“With any luck, the complaint now made to the World Federation will see Argentina, at the least, - criticised”***
I say...: I very much doubt it..., copper...
Poul-Erik ain't no turnip..., and he won't allow the BWF to be manipulated...
He already knows that those sweet..., young Engrish Kelper lasses from Malvinas were send to a completely ***“Over their League tournament”*** SOLELY for political motives...
Their prestations speak volumes...
Capisce...?
Thunk (occasionally) - have you spoken to him? The Pan-American Badminton group is entirely apolitical. The Islanders knew that, but you say it was a grand conspiracy? Your paranoia knows no bounds, old man. An Argie to your boots, but not everyone comes from the land of viveza criolla.
Feb 13th, 2020 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Got it?
Terence Hill, the colonial status and its colonial situation of the Malvinas Islands, did not changed by the charade of “referendum” of asking 2000 British citizens with more than 90% of british origins with almost half literally been born in Britain, if they want to remain british citizens.
Feb 13th, 2020 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse -4Your bla bla bla does not change the fact they remains being a colonial regime, under a process of decolonization by the UN. Also, they are not a people subjugated by the UK (either) that wants to “demostrate” its “own identity”.
https://www.un.org/dppa/decolonization/en/nsgt/falkland-islands-malvinas
Lorton, the UN are every year talking about the Malvinas Islands as with the rest of the nine other british colonies situation. In the Decolonization Committe, where the uk goes to cry that the bullies of the argentines do not recognize them as a “new people”.
But if you refers to the General Assembly, the question of the Malvinas Islands is always in the provisional agenda, but if you readed the sovereignty umbrella agreement, by a political decision of Argentina and the UK, the question of the Malvinas Islands is not debated in the General Assembly meeting.
https://www.un.org/dppa/decolonization/en/nsgt/falkland-islands-malvinas
Dear copper...
Feb 13th, 2020 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Sport has been biiig politics since the auld Greeks..., no “conspiracy”..., just a fact...
Them poor Kelper lasses are pawns in the FCO/FIG(leaf) long term strategy..., misplaced in a tournament well over their category..., and logically..., they are losing all their matches by...: 0-5 / 0-5 / 0-5 / 0-5 / 0-5 ...
Capisce...?
(Hope at least they have a good time in Salvador..., pretty town...)
Libby - the C24 are not the UN. There are 193 members of the UN, the Committee is currently made of of only 28. The C24 does not speak for the UN. The UN does, however, speak through its resolutions. Please indicate, in the last 31 years, where the UN has said anything. The list is here - https://www.un.org/en/sections/documents/general-assembly-resolutions/
Feb 13th, 2020 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +5What sovereignty umbrella? That is only a device applied to ad hoc discussions between the UK and Argentina. It does not apply to the UN and only lasts for the period of talks. A local agreement between the two States. If it applied to the UN, then Argentina would not be able to moan every year before the C24. Where Argentina cries that the UK bully does not recognise it as having any rights or claims.
The Falklands question seems to be dead. Buried at the UN in 1989.
Liberato
Feb 14th, 2020 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse +1“Does not change the fact they remains being a colonial regime, under a process of decolonization by the UN.” You're saying so, does not make it so, otherwise you would show so. Since the UK and the FIG are in complete compliance with their UN Charter obligations as I am showing.
Charter Of The United Nations
Chapter X Declaration Regarding Non-Self-Governing Territories Article 73
Members of the United Nations which have or assume responsibilities for the administration of territories whose peoples have not yet attained
a full measure of self-government recognize the principle that the interests of the inhabitants of these territories are paramount,... the
well-being of the inhabitants of these territories, ... and their protection
against abuses; ...
b. to develop self-government, to take due account of the political aspirations of the peoples, and to assist them in the progressive
development of their free political institutions, according to the particular circumstances of each territory and its peoples and their varying
stages of advancement;
Wrong. What you said ignores completely the work and the aim of the Decolonization Committe. You see, the DC, which is part of the UN, have a list of territories under a colonial situation and watch and controls the application of “the principle of granting independence to colonial people....”. This Committe decide if a territorie meet the conditions to be delisted.
Feb 14th, 2020 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse -4https://www.un.org/en/ga/74/agenda/
This is the General Assembly agenda. You can look backwards and see every agenda of every session. And guess what topic is on the agenda? 43. Question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas).
Joint Statement issued at Madrid on 19 October 1989 by the
delegations of the Republic of Argentina and the United
Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern lreland.
https://www.un.org/en/ga/74/agenda/
https://www.un.org/en/ga/74/agenda/
The items entitled “Question of Cyprus”, “Armed aggression against the
Democratic Republic of the Congo”, “Question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas)”........ shall remain on the agenda for consideration upon notification by a
Member State.
https://www.un.org/en/ga/74/agenda/
The C24 is now quite irrelevant Libby. The UK does not bother to attend. Nor does the USA. Nor France. Why? Because the C24 is biased, inefficient and ineffective. It has no power and is poorly regarded even within the UN.
Feb 14th, 2020 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse +5The Falklands do appear on the Provisional Agenda of the UN every year. To make it onto the actual agenda only requires that one single member ask for the issue to be considered. Since 1989, not one single member has done so. Upon notification ...... but there has been no notification. Not even from Argentina. Now that is strange, no?
The C24 is quite, quite, irrelevant. The UN has had nothing to say for 31 years.
Liberato
Feb 14th, 2020 - 02:24 am - Link - Report abuse +1What ever the C24 opines is of no consequence as it isn't international law, the UN Charter is the top definitive binding international law, and that overrides them. Again, the UK and the FIG are both in complete compliance with their UN Charter obligations. So there is no further legal requirement of them; moreover, “There is no obligation in general international law to settle disputes”.
Principles of Public International Law, third edition, 1979 by Ian Brownlie
Liberato
Feb 14th, 2020 - 02:41 am - Link - Report abuse +4“Do you brits realize that, the Malvinas regime is considered a colonial territory under a process of decolonization in the United Nations?”
Excuse me, refer to the islands by their correct name, i.e., Falkland Islands.
Sounds like you've got your facts slightly screwed up. But let's consider, just for a moment, even if it was as you allege - which it is not - what the hell has that got to do with Argentina and her government's ridiculous obssession that it is Argentine territory ? never was, isn't, never will be....but no harm in dreaming.
To everyone posting here, just take a look on the bright side for a change and take pity upon my Argentine cousins. THEY need someone...
Feb 14th, 2020 - 03:09 am - Link - Report abuse +5They actually sincerely believe they are one the greatest nations on earth. (No, I'm not drunk, but I've been enjoying my nation's far superior wine.)
If Argentina ever became a prosperous well managed republic and rightfully taking its place with other highly respected countries —perhaps in a couple of generations, the islands would consider joining its neighbor and yet maintain some of its unique identiy.
However, when you have a narcissist-kleptomaniac next-door psychopath corruptly misgoverned as an incredibly resource rich, but as a completely failed state —such as South Africa or Venezuela, who in their right mind would want anything to do with them?
It would be just as ridiculous as asking South Korea to rejoin with North Korea with the Kim family members in control...
...On second thought, it would even be worse...
For those who take offense of my opinion, please explain why Argentine indigenous people are currently suffering due to malnutrition?
“En unión y libertad”
I am not understanding Liberato.
Feb 14th, 2020 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse +4How can they be a “colonized people” and NOT have a say in their future?
How can there be a colonial territory that has NO colonized people?
If Argentina occupied the land of the Falkland Islanders against the Islanders will, would the C24 cry out against that colonization?
When the Argentines occupied the Falkland Islands in 1982, didn't the actual UN, and not the C24, have something to say about that.
Did the UN support the Falkland Islanders or Argentina in 1982?
What is the end result of this “decolonization process”? What specific shape does Liberato think post-decolonization will have?
“... but I've been enjoying my nation's far superior wine.”
Feb 14th, 2020 - 05:28 am - Link - Report abuse +2Amen to that ,sir... ;)
You're all seriously arguing about the C24 again? It's irrelevant; either the badminton association allows colonies aka non-self governing territories to compete or it doesn't. And it does, I see Bermuda and Cayman Islands on the list of members.
Feb 14th, 2020 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse +1As for quibbling about the name, Greece did the same with the now North Macedonia, and Greece is usually considered a civilised country. They seem to have resolved their differences for now, anyway.
TWIMC...
Feb 14th, 2020 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Them Kelper lasses lost 0-5 to the USA...
Them Kelper lasses lost 0-5 to the Perú...
Them Kelper lasses will most probably lose 0-5 to Brasil...
Average Kelper lasses match duration...: ~17 minutes...
Average (balanced category) lass match duration...: ~60 minutes...
I wouldn't send me kids or grandkids to a badminton tournament soooo out of their league that their self-esteem and self-confidence will suffer sooo much....
Not any sports-related reason to do such a nasty thing to them...
Political related reasons are another ball-game altogether..., though...
Capisce...?
The black plague is back!
Feb 14th, 2020 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0USA
Well...
Feb 14th, 2020 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Badminton logic prevailed..., and the Malvinas female Kelper team lost 0-5 against Brasil...
Still a chance to get one point against Guatemala in doubles... I reckon...
It's the taking part that counts, Thunk
Feb 14th, 2020 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +4A phrase echoed by the founder of the Olympics, Baron Pierre de Coubertin, who said “The most important thing in the Olympic Games is not winning but taking part; the essential thing in life is not conquering but fighting well.”
I wish them well.
It is only natural that entities with such a small population may have difficulties to compete with greater states. But that is not the question here. Not only sovereign states are members of this international badminton association, many overseas territories are. The Falkland Islands should not be discriminated against, just because a neighbouring country dislikes its appearance on this arena. And, besides that, Argentina is no event participating in this tournament themselves. So they had better just sleep calm!
Feb 14th, 2020 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Lorton: “The C24 is now quite irrelevant Libby. The UK does not bother to attend. Nor does the USA. Nor France. Why? Because the C24 is biased, inefficient and ineffective”
Feb 15th, 2020 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse -3Quite the contrary. I would be suspicios if the three nations that are the administering power of most of those colonies (under the UN list) agree on the UN taking their colonial assets away from them .dont you agree?.
If all the colonial powers (UK, USA, France) are happy with the UN Decolonization Process, then the history of the world is in trouble. But for you Lorton, the C24 is biased becouse the USA, UK and France dont care to attend their meetings.
Terence Hill, you come with the UN charter, what you interpret of the UN Charter. What im talking about is about the current situation. Nowadays, the islands are considered a territory under a colonial situation in the process of decolonization. You deny that talking about the UN Charter.
Jack Bauer, the name of the islands, according to the UN are the Falklands Islands (Malvinas), in all english documents. And Islas Malvinas (Falklands), in all its documents in spanish.
Chicureo, Greatness have nothing to do, at all, with sovereignty rights. And i have no idea where you are from, but you might be from a very prosperous and wealthy nation. Congratulation!, you made it.
bushpilot There is not a colonized people in Malvinas. They are the colonizers, they are the british that mantains a colonial regime with a controled inmigration.
Mr. Roger Lorton....
Feb 15th, 2020 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse -2Yet another of your empty clichés..., copper...
The basis of the Olimpics..., Badminton..., Archery or any other organized sport are clearly defined participant categories..., qualifications..., rankings... or whatever you want to call them...
I repeat.., there was NO ANY SPORTS-RELATED REASON whatsoever to send those low ranked Malvinas players to participate on that high ranked Pan Am qualification tournament in Brasil...
There are dozen of other tournaments all over the World perfectly fitted for those lasses category..., which would have give them a healthy sports “Erlebniss” and development...
The results speak clearly...:
- As I predicted above..., before the tournment commenced..., them Kelper gals lost big all their four matches by...: 0-5..., 0-5..., 0-5..., and 0-3... (the lasses had no morale left to play the last two doubles)
- Not at all their fault..., they were literally send to the slaughter-house by their mayors...
The only reason for the FIG(leaf) to pay the many tens of thousands of pounds this political stunt did cost is...: POLITICS...
Capisce...?
Libby - You say ” I would be suspicios if the three nations that are the administering power of most of those colonies (under the UN list) agree on the UN taking their colonial assets away from them .dont you agree?.”
Feb 15th, 2020 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse +3I say - No. The Administrative Powers were the ones to list the old colonies in the first place. However, after 75 years those same Powers believe that the process has come to an end. Those of the colonies that wished to be independent have become independent. Those that wished to retain their links to the mother-countries have retained those links. Job done. The continued existence of the C24 therefore serves no purpose. Its reason for existing is gone. Just an obsolete Committee, which 28 UN members see as an opportunity for free foreign travel and to employ their official credit cards.
The non-attendance of the Administrative Powers is a clear signal that the C24 cannot now change anything. C24 should be closed. Indeed, pressure at the UN for that Committee's closure continues.
Thunk - Yet again, your paranoia is showing. Too inclined towards ridiculous conspiracy theories. With practice they'll do better. Nice to see the sporting association waving two fingers at Argentina mind. Just what Filmus deserved.
Lorton, a guy from a nation known for his colonialism history, does not get the word colonialism, weird. You mean that if the USA invade and colonize x nation, it is up to the USA to say if the process of decolonization there comes to an end?.
Feb 15th, 2020 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse -3Libby, that is exactly what the UK and USA say. That it is for the Administrative Powers to decide when the process of decolonization is complete.
Feb 15th, 2020 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse +3The C24 disagree, but then they are unable to take any action without the approval of the Administrative Powers. In the case of the Falklands, the Administrative Power (UK) has made it clear that only the people of the NSGT can decide their future. Until the Falklanders decide otherwise, the question of decolonization is at an end.
Of course, neither the Admin Powers nor the C24 accept that recolonization is decolonization.
And you do know that neither the C24, nor the UN has any power to decide sovereignty? If you don't, you do now.
;-)
Well, it is clear now, you ignore all concepts of decolonization. The C24 AND the General assembly disagree with that point of view.
Feb 15th, 2020 - 02:27 am - Link - Report abuse -3If administering powers agree or not, is irrelevant to the nature of the colonial situation. In any case, if the administering powers do not approve What the c24 says, the only result would be for the c24 to mantain the colonial territory on the list of colonies.
“neither the Admin Powers nor the C24 accept that recolonization is decolonization.”
What you mean by recolonization?. Hong Kong was on the list, were they recolonized?.
C24 or the General Assembly can not decide over sovereignty. They recognize there is a sovereignty dispute (which the UK ignored) spending the last decades asking the UK and Argentina to negotiate sovereignty in order to continue the decolonization process.
Libby
Feb 15th, 2020 - 02:38 am - Link - Report abuse +3Decolonization was a process initiated so that the colonial people could decide their future. Since 1945, many - nearly all - have done so. Those remaining will also decide their future. Nobody else can. The C24 was supposed to facilitate that process of decision-making. It has proven rather inefficient. Those few remaining NSGTs that wish to become independent will do so. In negotiation with their Administrative Powers. The UN and the C24 see only independence as the result of their decolonization process. Where there is no independence, then the territory is likely to stay on the UN list. It is of little consequence.
No, Hong Kong was not recolonized because the UK ceded Kowloon & Hong Kong Islands in exchange for a deal covering all the peoples of the territory included those people of the New Territories which had only been leased from China. Any take-over of the Falklands by Argentina without the express permission of the islanders and a cession by the UK would be a re-colonization and the C24 would be obligated to oppose it. As would the UN.
What the C24 recognise is also of no0 consequence. The UK pays them no attention at all. The GA has had nothing to say for 31 years. The assumption has to be that the GA is happy with the current status quo.
There is no decolonization process to ignore. The islanders held a referendum in 2013. Until such time as they change the mind, the process is complete.
Wrong again. You are talking about colonial people, and the aim of the UN textually is to eliminate colonialism in all its forms. If it is only about people, it would be over Non self governing peoples not territories. Imagine decolonize Diego Garcia with only a military base and its military personnel.
Feb 15th, 2020 - 03:02 am - Link - Report abuse -3“The UN and the C24 see only independence as the result of their decolonization process”. May be, when there is a people to decolonize.
It doesnt matter of the deal in Hong Kong. In Malvinas, for you, what is important is the “self determination rights of the inhabitants” and not the papers. You cant have one policy saying the selfdetermination right for a population you consider a people is paramount but, another one to hand over a territory with people that “wishes” to remain being part of britain to become chinese for a paper.
Again, the General Assembly do not debate about Malvinas becouse of a decision of Argentina and the UK of not taking the dispute to the UNGA when they decided to try an umbrella formulla. Nevertheless, the question of the Malvinas Islands is always in the General Assembly agenda waiting to be called to debate.
https://www.un.org/en/ga/74/agenda/
There is no NSGT without a people. For example, South Georgia is not listed as a NSGT. Nor is Diego Garcia. Why? Because there are no people.
Feb 15th, 2020 - 03:11 am - Link - Report abuse +4All the NSGTs listed at the UN have a people. This was confirmed by the recent Chagos Advisory Opinion. No people = no NSGT.
We can have as many policies as we wish. The Hong Kong arrangement was a practical one that attempted to assist the people of the New Territories. It was not an ideal arrangement, but then a war with China would not have been ideal either.
Again, the umbrella formula ONLY applies to ad hoc conversations. It does not apply to the UN. If it did apply at the UN, then Argentina would not be able to moan at the C24. That the question is always placed on the Provisional Agenda is of no consequence if no Member State ever calls for it to be debated.
”In its resolution 58/316, the General Assembly decided that the item entitled “Question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas)” would remain on the agenda for consideration upon notification by a Member State. As at the date of the issuance of the present working paper, no such notification by a Member State to the Assembly had been received.”
NO SUCH NOTIFICATION ....... HAD BEEN RECEIVED.
Silence, from every UN Member INCLUDING Argentina.
The matter is settled. There is no decolonization process.
Think.
Feb 15th, 2020 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse +3How so out of reality you are. Everyone of those who love their sports are not puppets of their governments as you sugest.
They go to play because it is their passion to do so and they also have a passion in representing their place of birth no matter how big or small that place is.
The real reason behind your disrespect for our country is not that we participate in sports that are never going to allow us to achieve fame but the very fact that we the Falkland Islanders have embraced the Country of Brazil over Argentina.
Brazilians respect our way of life, Argentina does not and it shows.
You feel your cause will be lost, which it is anyway because untill Argentina stops acting the bully and ignores the right of a people, Falkland islanders are never going to be your friends.
You and your like minded trash of the earth have and still do interfere with everything that the islanders do.
You and the other trolls are a disgrace to all the decent free loving Argentine people who want to also live their lives in the same way as we islanders do. Democracy does not exist in Argentina but it does here in our homeland.
We islanders have embraced every nationality who has wanted to come and live our lifestyle and that also includes Argentines.
What we will never embrace is state control by an aggressor as in the like of the Argentine government.
That is not democracy that is an act of a dictator.
You will never agree with this factual statement because you and others like you are the brain washed of your society who does not and never will understand what democracy truly is.
Liberato
Feb 15th, 2020 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0”They recognize there is a sovereignty dispute (which the UK ignored)”
Let me say it again it is an issue that has already been determined under the relevant UN Charter Article 73. Which is the only proviso of international law that is applicable, the rest of the blah, blah is irrelevant political posturing. Furthermore, “THERE IS NO OBLIGATION IN GENERAL INTERNATIONAL LAW TO SETTLE DISPUTES”.
PRINCIPLES OF PUBLIC INTERNATIONAL LAW, THIRD EDITION, 1979 BY IAN BROWNLIE
Geeeeeeee...
Feb 15th, 2020 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse -4All the Anglo Turnips exploded in “Faux Indignation” when Argentina mixed sports with politics..., as we certainly did...
But... when shown that that's exactly what their own local Engrish government is doing..., by sending three (3) young lasses that NEVER EVER played a single tournament in their lives and two (2) older lasses that played just one (1) tournament back in the year 2014 (where they lost biiiig..., btw...) to represent them Malvinas Islands in a High Ranked International Qualification Tournament... they get their panties in a big..., ugly bunch...!
As a matter of fact..., I just wrote a mail to the pertinent person at the BWF..., explaining the “special situation” of the Malvinas/Falklands Islands kindly asking them to take the proper steps to avoid a repetition of such a pathetic political misuse of the BWF goodwill..., the disrespect shown to the correctly seeded participants of other nations that had to go through the ridiculous circus of playing against unrated/unprepared opponents and last but not least..., doing nothing to further the real spirit of Badminton by sending their players in a political mission and making them feel like shiat after being completely walked over at the courts...
Capisce...?
How did you sign the letter, Thunk?
Feb 15th, 2020 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse +1What 'special situation'?
:-)
Q...: How did I sign the mail...?
Feb 15th, 2020 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -1A...: “Slazenger Flight Commander”...
Q...: What 'special situation'...?
A...: Our '“special situation”..., copper...
Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire and mythology major
Feb 15th, 2020 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'special situation'? No such animal, the only issue that is relevant, is the facets of international law that are applicable. For which there nothing that Argentina can claim, whereas the UK can rely on oodles of them.
There were only 7 teams competing in this 'High Ranked International Qualification Tournament' for the whole of the Americas. Seems odd there weren't a few more countries able to muster up a team. If it's really an unpopular sport it kinda makes more sense to enter since that will lower the amount and quality of the opposition, but I'm still not surprised the Falklands lost.
Feb 15th, 2020 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +1The indignant remarks/stupid comments from the Argy trolls, supporting the ridiculous complaint by the Argy government, just refelects their total ignorance on what sport is all about...to compete, with honor, to forget differences and bring people together...
Feb 15th, 2020 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +2If they're incapable of separating it from their sordid politics, then they could always show their despicable disgust by pulling out of all international tournaments, especially rugby...how would they like to have South Africa, New Zealand and Australia demand their exclusion from the 4 nations' rugby championsip ?
What a bunch of wimps...
TWIMC...
Feb 15th, 2020 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse -2This “High Ranked International Qualification Tournament” is..., as a mater of fact..., a qualifier for the Thomas & Uber Cup 2020..., also called the...: “World Badminton National Team Championships”..., where only the Best of the Best have a chance...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uber_Cup
Think of it as the Davis Cup of Badminton............, Capisce...?
Can anyone give me just one (1) SPORTS REASON for sending five complete newbie Kelper lasses from windblown Malvinas..., without any experience or chance whatsoever to score one (1) single point into the qualification round to that Badminton lions den...?
Thanks in advance for your imput...
One reason? Yes. To learn.
Feb 15th, 2020 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse +3You are welcome.
You are a cinic ..., copper...
Feb 15th, 2020 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Babies have to learn how to walk..., before they can run a Marathon...
Next...?
And you are paranoid, old man. From the horses' mouth(s).
Feb 15th, 2020 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +3“It's hard to know where to start to describe this week. We've been angry & frustrated but also totally blown away by all the incredible support we, and the Falkland Islands as a whole, have received. We're ridiculously proud of our team in Brazil, led by Doug, and in the Falklands for standing up for themselves & for the Falklands. They've represented our club & our country on and off the court brilliantly.
Competing in this tournament was never about winning medals or even winning matches; it was about playing the sport we love, getting more tournament experience, playing against different opponents, making connections, having fun and representing the Falkland Islands. It's beneficial not only to the players but also to the rest of our club as the team bring back with them new skills & ideas, wonderful stories, and will hopefully inspire others to compete internationally, or to even just pick up a racket & play the world's fastest racket sport.
Thank you to everyone who has supported us. At the time of writing our initial post explaining the bullying situation has received 1000 reactions, over 1,800 shares & has been seen by nearly 150,000 people. When you Google Falkland Islands Badminton you find page after page after page of websites covering the situation, including Sky News & The Telegraph.
Thank you to the BWF and Badminton Pan America for standing strong with us.
We look forward to returning for more tournaments.”
See you in 2021 for more badminton, Thunk.
Next .........
Maybe they thought they could repeat their inexplicable win at ice hockey? Should try croquet, that's a tiny sport; one of my co-workers flew off to NZ and won the world championship.
Feb 15th, 2020 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think wrote
Feb 15th, 2020 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse +3“Think
You are a cinic ..., copper...
Babies have to learn how to walk..., before they can run a Marathon...
Next...?”
Interesting statement that is given Thinks lack of intelligence. Most falkland islanders with their very advanced education has probably already forgotten more than Think actually knows.
His one goal in life is not in any sporting event but that of being a troll towards hard working fin loving well educated Falkland Islanders who have used their intelligence wisely to prosper and grow while they watch Thinks incapable government destroy their own Country.
He is so bitter with envy that he resents even any other latin american Country embracing these intelligent young islanders.
Remember Think it is not the winning that matters in life but the taking part.
Proud moment for these young athletes when they stood up to a bully and won. That was the greatest prize they could ever have hoped to achieve.
A hand full of young people from a very tiny community beat Argentina in the political arena.
So who's the ones still crawling.
Right copper...
Feb 15th, 2020 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse -2All politics..., zilch sports...
Your eyesight is getting worse, old'un.
Feb 15th, 2020 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse +3“Competing in this tournament was never about winning medals or even winning matches; it was about playing the sport we love, getting more tournament experience, playing against different opponents, making connections, having fun and representing the Falkland Islands.”
Sounds like the only sport Stink ever indulged in is drinking.....then chasing after the poor sheep in his Welly boots....
Feb 15th, 2020 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Coulda been worse, could have been representing Venezuela at skiing:
Feb 15th, 2020 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVcsaDha2m4
Why didn't Argentina have a team in the competition? Surely they have some better players than the Falklands? Or maybe not.
Me dear copper...
Feb 15th, 2020 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse -3You are..., of course..., disregarding a little detail...
Engeland ain't the center of the Universe and the Malvinas ain't its navel...
Five Kelper lasses who evidently barely know which end of a bandminton racket to hold..., acting as Oxygen Thieves of true athletes that are doing their utmost to qualify to the World's most demanding National Team Championship..., ain't nothing to do with Sports..., but all to do with haughty & underbred Engrish politics..
I know it..., you know it..., them lasses know it...
I do not know it. I see some plucky youths having a go. That is right and proper.
Feb 15th, 2020 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +2That Argentina's bullying tactic failed makes the whole event so much the sweeter. If Filmus had a brain, he would choose better targets. Attacking a girl's badminton team was bound to rebound on Argieland. Now you all look petty and stupid again. Something that you, old 'un, are adding to.
Well done.
More politics..., copper... still zilch sport...
Feb 15th, 2020 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Don't be nasty Think, they did pretty well considering who they were up against. Why didn't Argentina have a team?
Feb 15th, 2020 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well..., well..., well...
Feb 16th, 2020 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse -2- Nice to see that the BWF (Badminton World Federation)..., as true Sports People that won't accept manipulation by anyones Political Antics..., be it Argie or Engrish..., listened to logic and chose to remove the offending disputed British Overseas Territory's NAME & FLAG of las Islas Malvinas/Falkland from all its official documentation regarding the ongoing...:
MALE & FEMALE PAN AM TEAM CONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIPS 2020
13 - 16 FEBRUARY, BRAZIL
https://bwfbadminton.com/results/3724/male-female-pan-am-team-continental-championships-2020/2020-02-13
Let's hope they take all the neccesary further steps to avoid a repetition of such pathetic political stunt attempt...
Kindly regards...
El Think...
(A.K.A. : ”Slazenger Flight Commander” ;-)
Removed Thunk? What makes you say that?
Feb 16th, 2020 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse +2Cannot see anything about removal.
It all comes down to how the Anglos their United States counterparts have been agresively harrasing and abusing the Spanish and in particular most recently the Latinamericans for over two hundred years to this very date. ... And if you don't see nor understand that you simply are ignorant ei brainwashed about this area of world history.
Feb 16th, 2020 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Keep it simple. ... if you are capable of caring at all.
You need to stop smoking that shit, 3rd world Betts.
Feb 16th, 2020 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +11) Click on me above link..., copper...
Feb 16th, 2020 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -32) Scroll down to the third match on the list..., copper...: USA vs ??? ???
Soraye March..., Wicky Chatter..., Louise Williams..., Laura Minto & Cheryl March...
No Flag..., No Country...
3) Scroll further down to the eight match on the list..., copper...: PERÚ vs ??? ???
Louise Williams..., Soraye March...,Wicky Chatter..., Laura Minto & Cheryl March...
No Country..., No Flag...
For your record..., copper... Here's how thingst looked until yesterday...:
https://bwf.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/teammatch.aspx?id=6D80370D-963F-4635-968E-EBF2477F6CD4&match=35
Offending Flag & BOT's Name removed indeed...
Capisce now...?
Well thank you, Thunk, I shall ensure that a complaint is made.
Feb 16th, 2020 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How will you sign the complaint, Copper...?
Feb 16th, 2020 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse -1:-)
With my name Thunk. Complaints have started rolling in. Isn't Social Media wonderful? ;-)
Feb 16th, 2020 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +3By the way..., copper...
Feb 16th, 2020 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse -2The name is “Think”... “El Think”...
I wouldn't dream of calling you “Piglet”..., would I ...?
Nor would I ever make fun of your real name that in Viking means “Shitson”...
Capisce...?
(Old un'..., I like... ;-)
Thunk, you are.
Feb 16th, 2020 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Remember to complain about that flagless last place too..., copper...
Feb 16th, 2020 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -3https://bwfbadminton.com/results/3724/male-female-pan-am-team-continental-championships-2020/podium
Seems that there is more than one site, Thunk.
Feb 16th, 2020 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +2https://bwf.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/teammatch.aspx?id=6D80370D-963F-4635-968E-EBF2477F6CD4&match=36&fbclid=IwAR1gBkzIjV4K6e8ebFxuK72oCQAmSN6I2W2Qi51y657NMM1bXYIOS_IRrPE
Geeeeee..., copper...
Feb 16th, 2020 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -3It was I that gave you the link to the “tournamentsoftware”...some eight comments above..., remember...?
Good thing you were an “Administrative” in Copperlandia..., not a detective..., huhhhh...?
Chuckle chuckle...
That's how they look today, Old 'un.
Feb 16th, 2020 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Not in their mainsite..., Copper...
Feb 16th, 2020 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse -3https://bwfbadminton.com/results/3724/male-female-pan-am-team-continental-championships-2020/2020-02-14
But if some residual..., not yet deleted rests of your pathetic Engrish political stunt attempt against the Badminton sport make you happy... so be it...
You can even spare you your complains....
Chuckle..., chuckle...
I am being told that there is an error in the source code. Whatever. The complaints are in, so hopefully it will be dealt with. Cannot have bully-boy Argieland claiming any victory, now can we. Hasta luego old 'un. Time for bed.
Feb 16th, 2020 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +1https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10222671548161515&set=p.10222671548161515&type=3&theater
Buenas noches..., Copper...
Feb 16th, 2020 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse -1I'll say it again. It all comes down to how the Anglos their United States counterparts have been agresively harrasing and abusing the Spanish and in particular most recently the Latinamericans for over two hundred years to this very date. ... And if you don't see nor understand that you simply are ignorant ei brainwashed about this area of world history.
Feb 16th, 2020 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -4.
Roger Lorton, do you really not understand that? Or are you just to insolent and ashamed to admit it? That's your response? ... that I need to “stop smoking that shit”?! If you know it's true, I suggest it's best you do like everyone else and pretend they did not hear what I said. The hardest yet most correct and simple truth is always the most challenging and difficult thing for the dirty conscious to accept.
Right, Trimonde, say it again, and again, and again....no one's paying attention to your bs, but if repeating it convinces you.....
Feb 16th, 2020 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +13rd World Betts - are you feeling vicimised? Good.
Feb 16th, 2020 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +5So remind me, what did the Spanish do with the indigenous peoples they encountered when they stole their land? Was there any harassment? Abuse? People in glass houses should not throw stones.
The Yanks are a people in their own right. Hardly our 'counterparts'. Cannot blame the Brits for their actions, but then, as usual, you seem confused. If you have some mental issues. I can only suggest that you seek expert help. And stop smoking that shit, of course.
Otra vez
Feb 17th, 2020 - 02:09 am - Link - Report abuse -1https://www.amerigolhockey.com/stats#/753/schedule?tournament_id=493
That's right Sr. Guillote...
Feb 17th, 2020 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse -4- In 2019..., it was agreed by all parts that the Islas Malvinas/Falkland junior U16 Icehockey players..., being inhabitants from a disputed South American territory that is NOT AN OFFICIAL COUNTRY, nor has it AN OFFICIAL FLAG..., would be welcomed to participate in the Pan-American Icehockey Championship under the name of “Puerto Estanley/Stanley”... :-)
So they did..., under NO COUNTRY NAME NOR FLAG..., but just a mischievous looking Penguin (that managed to smuggle the local British Overseas Territory Banner on his stick..., btw :-)
https://img.shiftstats.com/4b52380d-b43d-40fd-bcc0-668256503553/team-logo_url-60779-stanley-1566336885838072952-large.png
Everything went perfect...
Them Kelper boys played against the Argie boys..., and the best team won... :-)
In 2020..., the British local government of the Islas Malvinas/Falklands in one of their typical political stunts..., caught the Badminton World Federation (BWF) unaware of the “Special Case” they represent..., and inscribed their Kelper players under an “unofficial, non registered name and flag”... :-(
- This situation has been now properly explained...., clarified and corrected... :-)
Capisce...?
Capisce? Your paranoia is still showing Thunk (past tense)
Feb 17th, 2020 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Any answer from the BWF to your complaint..., Copper...? (past tense :-)
Feb 17th, 2020 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse -3The missing flag and name was due to “an error in the source code”. I am no computer expert, but it sounds very suspicious. Could there have been some Argentine hackers involved?
Feb 17th, 2020 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Stink the Chimp, Guillote, Trimonde
Feb 17th, 2020 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“much ado about nothing”...
Buenas noches, Stink....and don't go waking up the poor sheep...capisce ?
Heyyy..., copper...
Feb 17th, 2020 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse -1I “Think” Swede's paranoia is showing...
He certainly ain't no “computer expert”...,noooo Sir... :-)))
Only an Argie could see sport in such a negative way.
Feb 17th, 2020 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +2So..., Mr. BrianFI...
Feb 17th, 2020 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse -5Let me see if I understand you clearly...
- You see international competitive sport in ***“Such a Positive Way”*** that top notch sportsmen and women must be obliged to compete with........, for example ........, a ~forty years old housewife from..........., lets say.........., some windblown End of the World Isles who happens to like swinging................ a Badminton racket every now and then...?
Is that so...?
So according to you the Faroe Islands can't play football matches against Spain or Germany? What a crock of shit. The Falklands is a FULL member of the BWF meaning its players can compete in BWF competitions.
Feb 17th, 2020 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +4If we all had your nasty attitude then there would be no Olympics because athletes of lesser skill wouldn't be allowed to compete.
Also, there is no BWF requirement for players to be professional and one of the Falkland Island players is a county champion in the UK. So all your nasty views on this are nonsense. Only an Argie could see sport in such a nasty and negative way
Why bother? We all know Think doesn't care about fairness, competitiveness or professionalism. He'd complain equally if they came first, last or in the middle. Any concerns he expresses are feigned. He just hates the Falklanders and that's that.
Feb 17th, 2020 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Me dear Kelper...
Feb 17th, 2020 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -3- I'll repeat to you what I wrote to Engrish Mr. Roger Lorton a couple of days ago...:
***“The basis of the Olimpics..., Badminton..., Archery or any other organized sport are clearly defined participant categories..., qualifications..., rankings... or whatever you want to call them...”***
(I'm sorry to burst your Olympic bubble laddie but...the ***“Nasty Attitude”*** of keeping Millions and Millions of lesser skilled athletes out of the Olympics is alive and well..., duly administered by thousands of local..., national..., regional and international instances...
Sometimes though..., be it for POLITICAL REASONS or just to make a funny YouTube video out of it..., some Small Countries chose to disrespect the above basic principles and enroll completely unqualified participants to some Sports Competitions..., even the Olympics...
That is NOT EVEN THE CASE in this Malvinas Badminton case though..., because the Malvinas /Falkland Isles ain't a Country...!
A FACT that the Badminton World Federation (BWF) after a proper briefing had no problem in realizing and act accordingly...
Capisce...?
And as I already pointed out, the BWF does not require members to be countries and it never has:
Feb 17th, 2020 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +1”The Badminton World Federation (BWF) is the international governing body for the sport of badminton recognised by the International Olympic Committee (IOC). Founded in 1934 as the International Badminton Federation (IBF) with nine member nations (Canada, Denmark, England, France, Ireland, Netherlands, New Zealand, Scotland and Wales...”
Try again, Thunk.
Complaints take a while old 'un, but I note that the flag is still showing on the BWF page here - https://bwf.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=6D80370D-963F-4635-968E-EBF2477F6CD4&d=20200213&fbclid=IwAR2ja_n1Dv8_rrT0RtGpCB-bAFW47y1tmXPCR8b9n1m0t2wnzDTGWCLtAX0
Feb 17th, 2020 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Seems the BWF is merely confused.
I THINK you need to look at the members list of the BWF, which has MANY non independent territories....................... Capisce...? https://corporate.bwfbadminton.com/about/membership/
Feb 17th, 2020 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Now as for your basic and nasty views of sports, the Olympics was based around AMATUER sport and as for your nonsense about qualification............ this tournament was also for qualification for the Olympics.
Only an Argie could have such a basic and nasty opinion of sport
Interesting list, the members of the BWF. Apparently, there are not only sovereign states in this organisation. Many BOTs are members, not only the Falkland Islands, but also Cayman Islands, Saint Helena and Gibraltar. England, Scotland and Wales are separate members but the UK itself is not. Also other overseas territories such as Aruba and Curacao (NL), Faroe Islands and Greenland (DK) and many more are admitted. As the FI are a full member of the BWF they should of course be treated like all others. So the strange thing with the missing flag must be some error. Or has the Argentine government somehow threatened the BWF? There should be a full investigation to sort this out,
Feb 17th, 2020 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Luuuuuuuuv.... when them Anglos get their panties in a big..., ugly bunch...
Feb 17th, 2020 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -3All so “Faux indignated” when Argentina blends Sports and Politics...
All excuses when the soon to be Desunited Kingdom does... :-)
1) Roger dear... I already explained it to you... I'll try again...:
TOURNAMENTSOFTWARE.COM is an PRIVATE, INDEPENDENT, COMMERCIAL page..., that provies their SPORTS STATISTICS SERVICES to many sports clubs and sports associations like Badminton, Squash, Tennis, Table Tennis, Volleyball, Soccer, Hockey, Basketball, Handball, Darts..., etc, etc, etc...: https://www.tournamentsoftware.com/
THEY ARE NOT THE BWF..., Capisce...?
2) Mr. Brian FI...
I never said nothing about the BWF not having MANY non independent territories as members...
- What I am saying is that the Malvinas/Falkland Islands are NOT in their shortlist of recognized non independent territories that have the right to participate under a chosen flag...
That's why they ERASED IT from their official results.... NO CONFUSION..., NO MISTAKE..., NO FAWLY CODE..., NO HACKERS... Capisce...?
(By the way..., the Malvinas/Falkland Islands are NEITHER in the International Olympic Committee (IOC) shortlist of recognized non independent territories that have the right to participate under a chosen flag...
- You Kelpers are NOT in Puerto Rico..., or Bermudas..., Chay...
- You are in contested South-Atlantic territory...)
3) Swede..., you are a Swede...
“I never said nothing about the BWF not having MANY non independent territories as members...”
Feb 17th, 2020 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Yeah you did, you said 'because the Falklands isn't a country', which is irrelevant precisely because the BWF has many non independent territories as members.
No need to get pissy when people point out you're wrong...
Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire and mythology major
Feb 17th, 2020 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“This situation has been now properly explained..”
Oh dear and what do you do with this prior commitment. Oh gosh darn I shouldn't remind you of your countries's legal obligations since they never are adhered to.
The historical view of Argentina has been observed. As the US chargé d'affaires Francis Baylies wrote about Argentina in 1832
“...The revolutions of these people are seditious; their knowledge. chicanery and trickery; their patriotism, their liberty, a farce... ”
Baylies held that the US should sign no treaty ...for we would abide by it, and they would consider the violation no greater offense than a lie told by a schoolboy...“
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/argentina/rosas.pdf
”CHARTER OF THE ORGANIZATION OF AMERICAN STATES
other sources of international law;
e) ..and has the duty to abstain from intervening in the affairs of another State. ...
Chapter IV FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS AND DUTIES OF STATES
Article 11
Every American State has the duty to respect the rights enjoyed by every other State in accordance with international law.
Article 12
The fundamental rights of States may not be impaired in any manner whatsoever.
Article 13
The political existence of the State is independent of recognition by other States. Even before being recognized, the State has the right to defend its integrity and independence, to provide for its preservation and prosperity, and consequently to organize itself as it sees fit, …
Article 19
No State or group of States has the right to intervene, directly or indirectly, for any reason whatever, in the internal or external affairs of any other State. The foregoing principle prohibits not only armed force but also any other form of interference or attempted threat against the personality of the State or against its political, economic, and cultural elements.”
Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....
Feb 17th, 2020 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -3I'm in the midst of a killing field of grey..., dusty Anglo Turnips...
Waiting for a radiant red tall Anglo poppy to stick out...
I reckon I better sit down... :-)))
Says BWF on the top of the page Thunk. Cannot get much clearer than that. Big too. I figure you are just trying to avoid the evidence of your own eyes. Got it?
Feb 17th, 2020 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse +3https://bwf.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=6D80370D-963F-4635-968E-EBF2477F6CD4&d=20200213&fbclid=IwAR2ja_n1Dv8_rrT0RtGpCB-bAFW47y1tmXPCR8b9n1m0t2wnzDTGWCLtAX0
Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire and mythology major
Feb 17th, 2020 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I'm in the midst of ...”
“He who is silent is thought to consent. Thus, he who keeps silent is assumed to consent; silence gives consent. In law, the silence of a party implies his consent.. A maxim of crime and consent. qui tacet, consentit-lit. he who is silent agrees. Thus, who keeps silent consents; silence means consent; silent consent is same as expressed consent; consent by conduct is as good as expressed consent. This is an implied term in law....”
Soma's Dictionary Of Latin Quotations Maxims And Phrases
You'll be waiting a long time with those dusty grey glasses blinding you, Think.
Feb 17th, 2020 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +2“What I am saying is that the Malvinas/Falkland Islands are NOT in their shortlist of recognized non independent territories that have the right to participate under a chosen flag.”
Where's this shortlist, then?
I THINK a little Argie is getting upset because they are wrong. The Falklands are a full and accepted member of the BWF and and BWF rules state that politics and nationality cannot stop any player from participating. Your twisted and warped opinions do not change that.
Feb 17th, 2020 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Only an Argie couple be wo bitter and warped about sport
Sorry Rodge but..., my official “bwfbadminton.com” beats your “bwf.tourmamentsoftware.com” any time...
Feb 17th, 2020 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -3https://bwfbadminton.com/results/3724/male-female-pan-am-team-continental-championships-2020/2020-02-13
Happy to see that you are consistent with your Timeline style of bending the evidence untill it fits your goals..., Copper...
The Falklands is still a full and accepted member of the BWF. Suck it up bitter little Argie.
Feb 18th, 2020 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse +1Oh, and show us the shortlist
Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire and mythology major
Feb 18th, 2020 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Happy to see that you are ...” realising that both URL's are from the same official source. Therefor, they must be mutually compatible, and thus correct in their entireties.
Got the Logo and everything Thunk, cannot get much more official than that.
Feb 18th, 2020 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse +1So, where's that shortlist?
Rodge..., rodge...
Feb 18th, 2020 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Got the Logo and ”everything“.”..?
What's “everything” for you..., copper...?
Mine is the official BWF homepage with “everything”, including the tournaments results...
Yours is just the embedded “tournamentsoftware.com”..., with only the tournament results...
But..., as I already told you above..., if it makes you happy..., so be it...;-)
I THINK you need to show us this “shortlist”.
Feb 18th, 2020 - 01:31 am - Link - Report abuse +2Ohhhhhh.... my god...
Feb 18th, 2020 - 01:42 am - Link - Report abuse -2I “Think” I did hit a nerve...:-)))
Them Anglos are angrier that them Khao Yai pachyderms...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0NVBNC37V90
Hasta luego..., Copper. Time for bed.
Are you suggesting that my link is misappropriating an official emblem Thunk? Wow, you should report them. I do note that on your supposedly more official site, they do at least get the name right.
Feb 18th, 2020 - 02:31 am - Link - Report abuse +1Enjoy your night, but you appear to be a short-list short ;-)
It's morning here and still no evidence from Rhu
Feb 18th, 2020 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse +1Mr. Roger Lorton...
Feb 18th, 2020 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse -1You say...:
***“ Are you suggesting that my link is misappropriating an official emblem Think? ”***
I say...:
Nope... I am NOT suggesting anything of sorts...
What on earth made you Think such a silly thought..., copper...?
- Is it my use of the engrish adjective “EMBEDDED” that got you all confused...?
- Or is paranoia so EMBEDDED in your haughty-naughty engrish psyche to cause such thoughts...?
- Or maybe it is the misuse of the word “EMBEDDED” by your incestuous Yank anglo brothers during the Gulf conflicts that gives you that creepy sensation of missapropiation and untruths..?
Anyhow..., what I Think is that you just can't cope with the reality of the BWF not playing the Engrish Politic Antics game...
Capisce...?
Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire and mythology major
Feb 18th, 2020 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse -2Since you have not revealed your 'shortlist, as it's your obligation to meet your burden of proof. Then it's a given that it doesn't exist.
“Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy; States of Affairs; First published Tue Mar 27, 2012
Philosophers connect sentences with various items, such as thoughts, facts and states of affairs. Thoughts are either true or false in an absolute sense, never both or neither.”
plato.stanford.edu/entries/states-of-affairs/
Still no evidence from Think... could that be because it doesn't exist?
Feb 18th, 2020 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://bwfbadminton.com/results/3724/male-female-pan-am-team-continental-championships-2020/podium
Feb 18th, 2020 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Rest me case...
Chuckle..., chuckle...
The flag is missing, but the name is correct. Not the “M-word”. So I still believe in some technical error. The BWF cannot be so afraid of the Argies.
Feb 18th, 2020 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse +2Falklands still a full member despite a computer glitch........... https://corporate.bwfbadminton.com/about/membership/
Feb 18th, 2020 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse +2Now you said there is a shortlist, I THINK you need to show the shortlist
chuckle chuckle
The flag is missing, but the name is correct. Not the “M-word”
Feb 18th, 2020 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse +1Manipulating the evidence does not help you, Thunk
Well spotted..., for a Swede...!
Feb 18th, 2020 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is so..., because the BWF homepage is in English language..., and we all know that the UN officially adopted English denomination for them disputed South-Atlantic Islands is...: “Falkland Islands”
As we all know that the UN officially adopted Spanish denomination for them disputed South Atlantic Islands is...: “Islas Malvinas”...
Capisce...?
I must say that I do understand the wrath of them Anglo Turnips in here because of the erasing of that British Overseas Colony Banner from the BWF's official results list...
We all know how important flags are for them..., don't we...? ;-)))
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uEx5G-GOS1k
I Think we can safely conclude there is no shortlist.
Feb 18th, 2020 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse +1I THINK you lied about the shortlist.
Feb 18th, 2020 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +1All the while the Falklands is still a full member of the BWF with voting rights.
Chuckle chuckle
Speaking about flags...
Feb 18th, 2020 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Can't wait to see this one waving over the green fields of auld Blighty...
https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/51b/9b/15703dbec279b48e60386cf5ad09e1a2.jpg
(Beautifully deprived from all that elegant deep indigo blue..., personally chosen by style savvy Danish Princess Margaret..., Queen of all Scots..., some six-hundred years ago... ;-)))
Alba gu bràth...
El Think...
Thou protesteth too much Thunk. I THINK, you are shot.
Feb 18th, 2020 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Capisce...?
I THINK a little Argie has nothing else to add and should crawl back to their hole......... chuckle chuckle
Feb 18th, 2020 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse +2:-))))))))))
Feb 18th, 2020 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -1The lack of evidence makes it conclusive there is no shortlist, it's just a a little more of the old viveza criolla.
Feb 18th, 2020 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Geeeee...
Feb 18th, 2020 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse -2A Kelper claiming a ***“Computer Glitch”***
A Swede claiming some ***“Technical Error”***
A Copper claiming an ***“Error in the Source Code”***
I Think..., the only “Source” that erred here was the FIG(leaf) and their attemp of using Badminton for political purpouses...
An erred attemp that the BWF won't allow no more...
Capisce...?
FIG had nothing to do with it. This was all privately funded and organized, and the Falklands is a full member of the BWF with voting rights. This is a fact little Argie. You are just speculating
Feb 18th, 2020 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +2- Falklands/Malvinas Badminton Club is today a full paying member of the BWF with voting rights..., a situation I hope wil continue for many many years..., enjoying our explosive Sport in mutual respect... Kelper...
Feb 18th, 2020 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Capisce...?
Stink is a very stubborn old fart....despite the proof being smeared in his face, he refuses to acknowledge it....perhaps he'd best go back to his favourite sport - creeping into the sheep's pen after dark....
Feb 18th, 2020 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think
In about 5 months can we exepct some happy news, that you are the proud father of a Shink ?
You forgot...
Feb 18th, 2020 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +3An Argie claiming a ***“shortlist”***
The Falklands team followed the rules, they got to play, everything's above board, what's the problem?
No mention of Malvinas. But the FAKLKLANDS are a full member of the BWF.
Feb 18th, 2020 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse +2https://corporate.bwfbadminton.com/about/membership/
I THINK some little Argie is getting angry because they are WRONG.
Show us the shortlist now
Chuckle Chuckle
Flag still flying -
Feb 18th, 2020 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse +1https://bwf.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=6D80370D-963F-4635-968E-EBF2477F6CD4&d=20200213&fbclid=IwAR2ja_n1Dv8_rrT0RtGpCB-bAFW47y1tmXPCR8b9n1m0t2wnzDTGWCLtAX0
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