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UK/Argentina discuss trade and business opportunities, but also Malvinas
UK Deputy Foreign Secretary for Europe and the Americas Wendy Morton held on Monday several meetings in Buenos Aires with officials from the new Argentine government looking to strengthen bilateral ties as well as boosting trade and investment. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesPoor old Filmus. No mention. Was he the elephant in the room.
Mar 03rd, 2020 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse +4I am sure that Wendy Morton was impressed to hear that Argentina intends to form a new Committee. And make a map which is, like all current Argentine maps, a fantasy. Oh, and a few more unenforceable laws. I bet Wendy Morton is now quaking in her boots for fear.
Not that she mentioned any of it.
nflation does not yield, there is more economic recession, unemployment increases, the country does not honor its debts, social pressure is increasing, disappointment is very great, the new government is losing popularity in an amazing way .... nothing better than going back to the Malvinas issue to get some popularity !!!
Mar 03rd, 2020 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +2“Inflation does not yield, there is more economic recession, unemployment increases, the country does not honor its debts, social pressure is increasing, disappointment is very great...”
Mar 03rd, 2020 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Hey, German, are you by any chances talking about the Macri government? Just curious.
Dear Enrique, no, I'm sorry, I'm just talking about Alberto Fernandez government.
Mar 03rd, 2020 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Do you wanna discuss about M. Macri presidency? I don't have any issue with that.
You already know me.
“Hey, German, are you by any chances talking about the Macri government? Just curious.”
Mar 03rd, 2020 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course not, the Macri government preferred to distract from bad news by accusing the Kirchnerists of corruption.
@DemonTree
Mar 04th, 2020 - 01:43 am - Link - Report abuse +1Yes, you are right, I'm sorry. That's the reason why TODAY Mr. Sabbatella (fromer and current “new” peronist public servant) was found guilty and condemmed to a six month prission sentence.
He must be another political prissoner of Macri regimme.!!!
Gorgory tailandes why you don't work to defend the rights of Thais, o alimentas palomas.
Mar 04th, 2020 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0pgerman
I don't think you live in Argentina because here our day is not about malvinas.
EM another who talls and I don't think you live in Argentina porque hablas tonterias
DT
“by accusing the Kirchnerists of corruption.” Do you have any doubt about the Kirchnerismo corruption? Wow no tenes idea de lo que hablas
Gullible, what is your fixation with my 2nd home? What have pigeons got to do with anything? Are you taking your tablets?
Mar 04th, 2020 - 02:36 am - Link - Report abuse +1Roger entiendo lo de tu edad avanzada pero trata de leer de que se trata lo que estoy diciendo
Mar 04th, 2020 - 02:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0You do not appear to be saying anything Gullible. And this is an English language site. Try harder.
Mar 04th, 2020 - 05:01 am - Link - Report abuse +2Guillote
Mar 04th, 2020 - 07:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Do you have any doubt about the Kirchnerismo corruption?”
Yeah I do. The police and courts had four years to get evidence against CFK without interference so where is it? Same with Nisman's death. Also, accusing her of treason is ridiculous. Theatre for the masses.
Good guess about the others, though. Enrique lives in Canada and Pgerman I think in the US.
I hope that by now, even if the dreaded Foreign and Commonwealth Office can't understand the Argentinians in general, at least the FCO are made aware of the important role the Falklands have in Argentina to draw the attention of the Argentinians away from the many calamities which the Argentinians vote and ask for like Fernandez.
Mar 04th, 2020 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse +1Obviously no islander in their right mind would want to be saddled with such governments and even if Argentina controlled all those British islands AND the Chilean islands, that would not solve the real problems which Fernandez is trying to cover up, namely himself.
@Roger
Mar 04th, 2020 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse +1CFK is involved, among others, in the cause of the hotels of her property those that did not present the mandatory annual balances (where the losses, and profits, of a company are recorded) in order to pay the corresponding taxes. Any company, no matter its size, that does not present the mandatory balance sheets has its banking accounts locked and cannot operate. This, mysteriously, did not happen with the CFK’s hotel company when she was the president of Argentina. The hotel company acknowledged that they did not present the balance sheets for three consecutive years and simply paid the corresponding fine (an amount much less than the corresponding taxes). This is the main legal cause against CFK.
In addition, CFK's daughter had her safe boxed intervened and six million dollars cash were found inside (six million dollars of CFK property and legally declared) so it is quite clear that CFK prefers capital flight to local investments. Like Mauricio Macri and most of the argentine people.
It seems to me that Demon Tree ignores this.
He seems to ignore also that a current public servant, by the name of Sabbatella, was found guilty and condemmed yesterday. So, it is very difficult to accuse Mauricio Macri of being behind of each cause against peronists.
@Demon Tree, I currently live in Canada but I’m in daily contact with my fellow countrymen
Pgerman
Mar 04th, 2020 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have no doubt there are Peronists and Kirchnerists guilty of corruption, but I also believe the Macri government was using legal cases against them as distraction from bad news and an attempt to discredit their opponents. The dollar futures case is especially silly, given there is no evidence CFK or her associates benefited. Presidents and members of the government need to be free to make decisions and take action while in office without fear of being prosecuted afterwards if things go badly. Similarly with the AMIA case. People may object to the agreement with Iran but it wasn't a secret and there's really no evidence for anything underhand. The recent suggestion to prosecute Macri for the agreement with the UK allowing a second flight to the Falklands is just as absurd.
And you are in Canada too. It's a popular place. How does it compare with Argentina?
DT
Mar 04th, 2020 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Domingo F Sarmiento (a former president of Argentina) once said that Argentina was struggling in a dilemma of a (new) nation “in formation”. Sarmiento said: “Civilization or barbarism”
Do you want to compare Argentina with Canada?
I summarize it as follows: While in Argentina barbarism triumphed, in Canada civilization triumphed.
I thought you might say something like that. You don't care that Canada has a left-wing government, then?
Mar 04th, 2020 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry to return to the story, but word is that Filmus said nothing at this meeting after the initial greetings. Not a word. Argie politics required his face in the photograph. Nothing more.
Mar 04th, 2020 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +1I do so love the smell of bullcrap in the morning ;-)
DT
Mar 05th, 2020 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0The important thing about this is the personal and commercial relationship between Nestor and Cristina with Lazaro Baez.
there are more people from santa cruz intimates of the kirchner that are at least rare.
I think, judicial times in Argentina are slow and very questionable, what do you think about carlos saul menem?
by the way, did you find weapons of mass destruction in iraq?
DT
Mar 05th, 2020 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0First, I am not a right person. I am quite open ideologically. Basically, I am mostly a liberal, so I really believe in free thinking and I am against all populism, since populism annuls the individual as a thinking being with the right to dissent. The populsimo can be from left or right (like Peronism)
In addition, there are liberals from right and left. The current Canadian prime minister is one of them.
I have read books written by many democratic and liberal left-wing “heads of state” like Francois Miterrand, Tony Blair, Felipe Gonzalez or Oloff Palme. Argentina had some very interesting democratic socialist politicians like Alfredo Palacios or Alicia Moreau de Justo. I could also include in the category of “liberal socialists” President Raul Alfonsin (although his government was a resounding economic failure he was finally able to consolidate the democratic system against the military and Peronism willing to force him to abandon power at any cost ).
What a person should never do is give up logic and reason for a political idea. Peronism is that. Peronism is the most absolute irrationality that fanaticism brings. There you have Enrique Massot as an example. He is always ready to defend any decision of Alberto Fernandez under the idea of “I believe him”.
Guillote
Mar 05th, 2020 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Baez case is more plausible, but nothing really convincing has come out yet. Will it continue now CFK is Vice-president?
Not sure what Menem or the imaginary WMDs in Iraq have to do with this? Menem was convicted, but hasn't gone to prison because he has immunity (and I don't understand why the people of Rioja re-elected him, even if they don't care about the crimes, at 89 years old I doubt he's doing a good job representing them).
What do you think of the dollar futures and AMIA cases?
Pgerman
I see. I don't like populism either, the way it turns anyone who disagrees into the enemy, and often leads to individuals concentrating power. But that doesn't mean any policy proposed by a Peronist is automatically a bad one. Seems to me there are quite a range of politicians in Argentina who call themselves Peronists, and have not much in common. What's the big difference between Peronists and non-Peronists?
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