Argentina asks Ireland's support to exclude the Falklands from any post Brexit EU-UK accord

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The Argentine foreign minister Felipe Solá held a round of talks with his counterparts from Australia, Ireland and Armenia to address issues of special significance for an Argentine foreign policy such as the current Coronavirus pandemic, and its impact on the global economy, and the European Union position regarding the Falkland Islands in a post Brexit scenario. Read full article

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Pugol-H
No chance of Ireland supporting that, none.

They are not going to anger the British Gov like that over something that does not involve them. Not to mention the serious outrage in some parts of Ireland over supporting annexing territory against the wishes of its legitimate inhabitants.

Difficult to think of anything they would be less likely to want to do.

Very little chance of there being any trade deal in the first place, none if Gibraltar and or the Falklands are not included, as is spelt out very clearly in the UK position papers.

Spain are unlikely to force the issue of Gibraltar in the talks, oh they will try and gain whatever advantage they can from it, but when that proves to be none they will not block any deal because of it.

The idea that Ireland will block any deal, vital to its economic survival, because of Argentina and the Falklands is laughable.

Clutching at straws in the bottom of the barrel there.
May 23rd, 2020 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +8
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Think
Errrrrm...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishcentral.com/news/margaret-thatcher-was-furious-over-irish-support-for-argentina-on-the-falklands-war-184996241-237555641.amp
May 24th, 2020 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse -6
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Swede
Why should European countries, like Poland, Sweden, Germany, Ireland or Belgium (just as some examples) support the Argentine claim? They are totally indifferent to the “Malvinas cause”. Most people just remember or have heard about some absurd war in back the eighties when the Junta in Argentina invaded some small British islands and was kicked out after some time. They do not even know that Argentina still insists that the Falklands should be theirs. The only exception among European countries could possibly be Spain. It shares language and part of its history with Argentina and has itself a claim on British territory. I certainly think that most European countries would support Britain in this case. For ideological reasons (the principle of of Self Determination of the Falkland Islanders) or simply commercial reasons (the U.K. is a much more important trading partner than Argentina).
May 24th, 2020 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +7
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Pugol-H
Think
As usual, you are still living in another time.
May 24th, 2020 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
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Think
Ermmm....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XDgO6NIXe0A
May 25th, 2020 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
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Pugol-H
And an even older time.

Wots next, a miss quoted reference from Psalms perhaps????

An amusing little ditty from the Vedas, with the words slightly re-arranged to suit????

21st century hasn’t reached you yet, has it????
May 26th, 2020 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
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Don Alberto
Spain will try to get what they can re. Gibraltar, but the impact on the Spanish national economy from 18,000,000+ British tourists tells us that they won't block any deal re. the British Falklands Islands because of Gib.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/447742/yearly-number-of-tourists-with-residence-in-the-united-kingdom-spain/
May 26th, 2020 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
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Lord Lucan
Bahahahaha wet dreams!
May 27th, 2020 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Mike Summers
The EU recognises, and has done for a long time, British sovereignty of the Falkland Islands. However wavy some Irish Governments may be from time to time, they will not cede from EU doctrine on the issue. The article notably misses out on the Irish response.
May 29th, 2020 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
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Think
Me dear honourable just above...

1) The EU does still recognise..., as it has done for some time..., British sovereignty over the Falkland/Malvinas Isles....
However..., that will be most probably change when them British leave the EU and quite probably start kicking them EUropeans out of the British fishing zones... (Including Malvinas..., mind :-)

2) The Paddy Governments will surely luuuuuv to follow upcoming EU doctrine on that issue...

3) The article notably misses out on the Irish response..., because it hasn't been any..., yet...

Capisce...?
May 29th, 2020 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
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Mike Summers
You clearly don’t understand much about the EU. Their position is based on legal principles, not politics. So it will not change.

Capisce ?
May 29th, 2020 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
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Think
Ermmmm...
Very honourable gentleman...
I'm a well informed citizen of two (2) different EU contries...
You are citizen of none... (Having a pied a terre in Provençe doesn't count.)

Capisce...?
May 29th, 2020 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
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DemonTree
Ireland is hardly the biggest fan of the deal with Mercosur. If Argentina wants their help perhaps they should put their money where their mouth is and offer to agree a lower quota for beef... which is more important, the economy or some distant 'windblown islands'?
May 29th, 2020 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
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Mike Summers
Mr Think. You don't need to live in the EU to understand its legal principles.....it evidently hasn't helped you much.

Why do you think I own property in southern France ? I don't....not that your childish propaganda has any effect or relevance.
May 29th, 2020 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
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Think
Honourable...

1) Neither of us lives in the EU..., chay... We just vacation there...
2) What I DO undersand is that the EU will most probably revise its BOT's recognition policy...
3) You say you don't own no property in Southern France........, huhhhh...? Do you rent it then...?
May 29th, 2020 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
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Mike Summers
No.You are clearly (regularly) misinformed.
May 30th, 2020 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse +1
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Pugol-H
Mike Summers
I wouldn’t put much, if any faith in the EU acting according to any principles, legal moral or otherwise.

Ask the Gibraltarians, keen Europeans, so much for their rights with the EU effectively now supporting Spain referring to them as a “Colony” and giving Spain a veto over the inclusion of Gib, in any future accords.

Not much “self-determination free from outside interference” in that.

Or the Catalans, also very pro EU until Spain violently squashed their right to self-determination and the silence in Brussels was deafening.

Principles, only apply for the EU when politically expedient for them.

Just like EU rules, from bank bailouts to state aid, waived or ignored when desired.

Having said all that, neither the EU nor Ireland will want to entangle themselves in Argentina’s machination, for reasons almost too numerous to mention.

Not least because France has overseas territories like Britain.
May 30th, 2020 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
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