The European Union has noticed of Russia's and China's advancements in Latin America and is devising a series of measures to counter those effects and avoid losing its traditional partners, it was reported. Read full article
ROFLMAO ... What incredibly grotesque stone faced nerve these people have!! Yes, Britain and the US have been wanting to blame Europe about this for some years now. Typical! ... How about instead we go back to decades of US UK backed interventionism, the assassination of Salvador Allende, Lula's imprisonment, Bolivia's SEVERAL military interventions, let's not forget Margaret Thatcher's clear message to Latin America when she broke the Champaign bottle on the course this ship is now taking, and made it clear Latin American country's are not deserving of humble acknowledgment, respect or negotiations over territorial matters, but rapist brute force and domination instead. I mean... the whole of Latin-American history has been one big two hundred plus years long potato mashing interventionism orgy of abuse, manipulations, lies, sovereignty usurpation and resource robbery by the UK and US, AND NOW THEY WANT TO BLAME EUROPE for the truth to finally start clicking and a different course chosen by them, (too little and too indecisive if you asked me and others!) unbelievable!
It looks like the Colonial Era is coming to an end. I believe that very soon Mercosur will sign a free trade agreement with the BRICS. No absurd restrictions on agricultural exports.
Better to develop our industrial capabilities with the support of the BRICS than with the support of the EU. In these last 500 years of common history with Europe I cannot see anything in which South America has been favored.
The ‘Colonial era’ ended some 60 years ago, the world has moved on a long way since then, well some parts of the world have, thinking in other parts clearly has not.
Much as I dislike the EU, it would be better to be robbed by them than the Chinese.
You dance with the Devil there, ask the Africans how that has worked out for them, or Siri Lanka.
Half the population of S. America is of European decent and these are the people whose ancestors carried out the ethnic cleansing of the continent, not the Europeans of today.
And when is China going to overtake the US economy in size?
I remember when Japan was predicted to ‘overtake the US economy’, it never happened.
I have often said that a deal with the EU can only be on their, unacceptable, terms.
However to think a deal with the Chinese will be any better is naive in the extreme, that just means you haven’t understood the full implications of the deal.
Alternatively you could stop thinking Bi-polar and liberalise trade with the world. S. America has the resources of food and energy that are in most in demand now.
If you could deal with the endemic corruption in the region, you might even make some money out of it.
Best not to mention cattle with their global warming methane emissions, just another reason for the EU to hold up a treaty until they are reduced below the level of at least France, if not Belgium.
I think Europe's approach is not correct. The right to free trade is not denied by imposing eternal restrictions. Regulations could be established by targets with compliance deadlines, whether environmental conservation or social responsibility.
But what can be seen is the irresponsible defense of French and Irish interests, paralyzing or canceling negotiations.
The BRICS offer much better terms. Good will, a spirit of unity and financial support are the keynote of BRICS relations with South America.
IT IS. Indeed, the Europeans of today are no longer the same as they were five hundred years ago.
You are entirely correct about the EU, we have exactly the same problem with them, after a deal is agreed suddenly things become ‘contingent’ on conditions never mentioned in the original deal.
It is entirely possible that when the current UK, EU Trade and cooperation deal expires in a few years time, a lesser deal or even no deal will replace it. That is if the current deal lasts that long and there isn’t a trade war first.
Deals with the EU simply do not work, even when the deal agreed is in their favour.
The problems with a BRICS deal is that they don’t offer much in the way of markets for S. American products, except for raw materials like Copper exports to China.
You are not going to export beef to India for example.
None of the BRICS countries are able to offer any ‘financial support’, as they have enough problems of their own.
Stop thinking political Bi-polar and start thinking global liberalisation, avoid the trap of ‘the evil of two lessers’.
Most people are nowadays are different to 500 years ago.
And you will still have to deal with the endemic corruption in the region, if you are going to make any money.
It is good to keep in mind that Mercosur already has free trade agreements and Preferential Trade Treaties with the following countries and regional blocs:
Chile
Bolivia
Mexico
Colombia
Ecuador
Venezuela
Peru
Cuba
Guyana
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Suriname
India
Israel
SACU (Southern African Customs Union)
Egypt
Therefore, bi-polarity in Mercosur trade is a fallacy.
Adding China and Russia to our trade treaties seems more than obvious, as three BRICS members already have customs preferences among themselves.
The problem is not Mercosur, it is not Mercosur's. It is from Europe that, under the pretext of environmental causes, it favors a select economic group and roots decadence and fragility for the entire European people.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesROFLMAO ... What incredibly grotesque stone faced nerve these people have!! Yes, Britain and the US have been wanting to blame Europe about this for some years now. Typical! ... How about instead we go back to decades of US UK backed interventionism, the assassination of Salvador Allende, Lula's imprisonment, Bolivia's SEVERAL military interventions, let's not forget Margaret Thatcher's clear message to Latin America when she broke the Champaign bottle on the course this ship is now taking, and made it clear Latin American country's are not deserving of humble acknowledgment, respect or negotiations over territorial matters, but rapist brute force and domination instead. I mean... the whole of Latin-American history has been one big two hundred plus years long potato mashing interventionism orgy of abuse, manipulations, lies, sovereignty usurpation and resource robbery by the UK and US, AND NOW THEY WANT TO BLAME EUROPE for the truth to finally start clicking and a different course chosen by them, (too little and too indecisive if you asked me and others!) unbelievable!
Aug 19th, 2022 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0It looks like the Colonial Era is coming to an end. I believe that very soon Mercosur will sign a free trade agreement with the BRICS. No absurd restrictions on agricultural exports.
Aug 20th, 2022 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse +1Better to develop our industrial capabilities with the support of the BRICS than with the support of the EU. In these last 500 years of common history with Europe I cannot see anything in which South America has been favored.
The ‘Colonial era’ ended some 60 years ago, the world has moved on a long way since then, well some parts of the world have, thinking in other parts clearly has not.
Aug 20th, 2022 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Much as I dislike the EU, it would be better to be robbed by them than the Chinese.
You dance with the Devil there, ask the Africans how that has worked out for them, or Siri Lanka.
Half the population of S. America is of European decent and these are the people whose ancestors carried out the ethnic cleansing of the continent, not the Europeans of today.
You need to remember that fact.
Mr. Mujica offers some enlightening words:
Aug 20th, 2022 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse -1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5dQsK2_2OU
Clearly paranoid about the USA.
Aug 20th, 2022 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -1And when is China going to overtake the US economy in size?
I remember when Japan was predicted to ‘overtake the US economy’, it never happened.
I have often said that a deal with the EU can only be on their, unacceptable, terms.
However to think a deal with the Chinese will be any better is naive in the extreme, that just means you haven’t understood the full implications of the deal.
Alternatively you could stop thinking Bi-polar and liberalise trade with the world. S. America has the resources of food and energy that are in most in demand now.
If you could deal with the endemic corruption in the region, you might even make some money out of it.
Best not to mention cattle with their global warming methane emissions, just another reason for the EU to hold up a treaty until they are reduced below the level of at least France, if not Belgium.
I think Europe's approach is not correct. The right to free trade is not denied by imposing eternal restrictions. Regulations could be established by targets with compliance deadlines, whether environmental conservation or social responsibility.
Aug 21st, 2022 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse -1But what can be seen is the irresponsible defense of French and Irish interests, paralyzing or canceling negotiations.
The BRICS offer much better terms. Good will, a spirit of unity and financial support are the keynote of BRICS relations with South America.
IT IS. Indeed, the Europeans of today are no longer the same as they were five hundred years ago.
You are entirely correct about the EU, we have exactly the same problem with them, after a deal is agreed suddenly things become ‘contingent’ on conditions never mentioned in the original deal.
Aug 21st, 2022 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse -1It is entirely possible that when the current UK, EU Trade and cooperation deal expires in a few years time, a lesser deal or even no deal will replace it. That is if the current deal lasts that long and there isn’t a trade war first.
Deals with the EU simply do not work, even when the deal agreed is in their favour.
The problems with a BRICS deal is that they don’t offer much in the way of markets for S. American products, except for raw materials like Copper exports to China.
You are not going to export beef to India for example.
None of the BRICS countries are able to offer any ‘financial support’, as they have enough problems of their own.
Stop thinking political Bi-polar and start thinking global liberalisation, avoid the trap of ‘the evil of two lessers’.
Most people are nowadays are different to 500 years ago.
And you will still have to deal with the endemic corruption in the region, if you are going to make any money.
It is good to keep in mind that Mercosur already has free trade agreements and Preferential Trade Treaties with the following countries and regional blocs:
Aug 21st, 2022 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chile
Bolivia
Mexico
Colombia
Ecuador
Venezuela
Peru
Cuba
Guyana
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Suriname
India
Israel
SACU (Southern African Customs Union)
Egypt
Therefore, bi-polarity in Mercosur trade is a fallacy.
Adding China and Russia to our trade treaties seems more than obvious, as three BRICS members already have customs preferences among themselves.
The problem is not Mercosur, it is not Mercosur's. It is from Europe that, under the pretext of environmental causes, it favors a select economic group and roots decadence and fragility for the entire European people.
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