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Ceremonies in Buenos Aires on the Day of the Malvinas Veteran and the Fallen in combat
April 2nd is a very special day in the Argentine calendar, a national holiday, which recalls the Falklands conflict, (when the Argentine military landed and occupied the Islands that day in 1982) and is remembered as the “Day of the Malvinas Veteran and the Fallen in combat”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesCan we just get one things straight? Argentina celebrates an illegal invasion of a British sovereign territory every year. It is NOT a remembrance of lives lost, or anything more grand than an invasion of a peaceful, peace-loving country that was never theirs in the first place. They are the only country to do so.
Apr 02nd, 2024 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse +6Commemorate the war dead, disown the brutal dictators who caused it, and move on. You do disown the brutal dictators, don't you ?
Apr 02nd, 2024 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse +6Argentina's denouncement against British occupation of their islands Mr Summers dates to 1833, when Mariano Moreno presented the government in London with a letter of protest. Actually, the history of our two country's confrontation over the islands goes as far back as 1771 when Buenos Aires creole soldiers, those same young men who would later expel the Spanish and The British from Buenos Aires, took up arms against Port Egmont paving the way for the Malvinas to be put in that Viceroyalty's jurisdiction in 1776. Indeed it would not be until eleven years after Moreno's protest that today's islander occupation population would start arriving to our part of the world.
Apr 02nd, 2024 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -4You may look around and gaze at those beautiful South Atlantic skies feeling they're your heart's home Mr Summers, and I have no doubt that that's what they are, and that your feelings are genuine. The fundamental distinction however is that they have been made to be your home, following the unlawful expulsion of Argentine creole's by both the US, and UK. Your people landed there to satisfy His Majesty's and your country's ambitions after taking the islands from Argentina. No part of your population has immigrated to the islands in order to build their own country.
So, those “desperately foolish dictators”, merely borrowed an element and a matter of the nation that has been carried by our country through each dying generation. I hope you can understand the difference to your own plight, which in any case should be endowed with much more courage and sincere logic, so as to take it up with whom you should when expecting a change of attitude, The British government.
Also, I realize MercoPress is but a glorified propagandist pamphlet of cleverly tailored semantics and purposefully selected issues hued with very audacious and often insulting false inferences, but that is no reason to not translate properly Spanish to the English language. The “Casa Rosa” is translated The Rose House, not “The Pink House”
Oh dear, PE's off his meds again.
Apr 03rd, 2024 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Either that or the dope he's smoking is too strong for him and giving him weird dreams.
@Darragh, all he ever does is post long winded waffle that is meaningless,
Apr 03rd, 2024 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Regini forgets there was no “Argentina” in 1771. He forgets the Falklands have been British since the flag was first raised in 1765. Thankfully, we're not all as mental as he seems to be!
Apr 03rd, 2024 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse +1Mr. Mike “Foxy Smile” Summers gives above a couple of orders and asks one question to “SOMEBODY”...:
Apr 03rd, 2024 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -5- “Commemorate the war dead, disown the brutal dictators who caused it, and move on. You do disown the brutal dictators, don't you ?”..., he commands and asks...
Well..., if he's asking THIS AULD & HUMBLE PATAGONIAN..., who's each and every word can be checked in the archives of ”MercoPress (Defender of the Brutish Raj)“..., me answer to him could not be simpler...:
-I commemorate the war dead..., I disown the brutal dictators who caused it.., and I move on in our quest to get back them windblown Isles... You do..., Mr Mike Summers..., disown the brutal Anglo elected leaders that since 1982 under complete false ”premises” directly and indirectly have killed millions of people and destroyed entire Nations as for example IRAQ..., LIBYA..., SYRIA..., JUGOSLAVIA..., AFGHANISTAN..., and currently UKRAINE & the GAZA STRIP..., don't you ?
But..., if he's asking the current Argentinean Vice-President...: Mrs.VICTORIA VILLARRUEL..., whose Daddy was a serving member of that Brutal Dictatorship..., her answer to him would probably be...:
-I commemorate the war dead..., I honour the Patriotic Idealists who caused it.., and I move on in our quest to get back them windblown Isles... And Don't you dare..., Mr Mike Summers..., to try to disown your Patriotic Idealistic Anglo Elected Leaders that since 1982..., directly and indirectly have exterminated millions of Sandnigga & Communist Vermin and destroyed entire Rouge, Failed, Axis of Evil Nations as for example IRAQ..., LIBYA..., SYRIA..., JUGOSLAVIA..., AFGHANISTAN..., and currently UKRAINE & the GAZA STRIP..., don't you dare...!
CAPISCE...?
I see the retarded racist alcoholic diaper boy has returned with is irrelevant immature nonsense. boy his parents must be proud of what they bred.
Apr 03rd, 2024 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +1HONOR AND GLORY TO THE VETERANS OF THE 1982'S GESTA OF RECOVERY OF OUR MALVINAS ISLANDS.
Apr 03rd, 2024 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse -4Thank you to Patrick Edgar & Tank comments on the meaning of this date to our country.
The British will never understand what our country means to us, and why the Islas Malvinas sovereignty is part of our national identity. To them we are a mixture of Spanish & Italians, they can't understand what it means to us all to be Argentinians.
We don't 'celebrate' our fallen heroes: we commemorate an anniversary of the recovery of our Islas Malvinas, because that is what happened in 1982: the islands were recovered from the British invasion & the usurpation that took place in 1833, as a way of interrupting the 150 years of illegal occupation; this was done after more than a century of diplomatic protests ignored by the imperialists. Argentinians supported the Gesta of Malvinas, in spite of who was on the government at that time.
Our sense of belonging is based on our shared love of our sovereign soil, of which the Malvinas Islands have been part of since 1492, passed on to our territory by the Spanish Crown that conquered most of South America, its coasts &the Archipelago and Islands of the Atlantic South; the same Spanish that expulsed the French and British invaders in 1771.
At that moment, the Spanish appointed a Governor to the Islands, and in 1811 delegated that responsibility to the Viceroyalty of the Rio de la Plata that took on the occupation, possession & protection of the Malvinas Islands from the Spanish Crown Governor since 1811 until 1833, when the imperialist British invaded them, illegally expulsing a sovereign settlement governed by the afore mentioned Viceroyalty of the Rio de la Plata (later known as the newly born Argentina).
This is what we commemorate every 2 April, honor our heroes, veterans & fallen in the Islas Malvinas War, and we declare and reclaim the sovereignty on our territory including our Islas Malvinas and Islands of the Atlantic South & Antarctica.
Look at that,Patsy the Expat and Gauchito Drink, it doesn't get any more amusing. And look at how Gauchito Drink supports the genocidal invasion of Ukraine by his idol, the ex KGB captain Putin. Once again he proves that he is against freedom, and really, I look forward to the day the chantapufi finally disappears from this site due to his imprisonment for fraud... ;)
Apr 03rd, 2024 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +1@Fitz Roy
Apr 04th, 2024 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse -4Just to remind Fitz Roy:
-That this part of the world was Spanish territory.
-That Admiral Anson's plan to explore the South Atlantic was rejected by the Spanish and accepted by the English.
-That Spain immediately protested the presence of the French intruders.
-That the English intruders found the islands populated by the French.
-That the French intruders accepted Spanish sovereignty as the English had previously done.
-That when the clandestine English settlement was discovered, they recognized Spanish sovereignty through a treaty and then withdrew.
From that moment on the islands remained populated and governed first by the Spanish, and then by the young Argentine Republic until the British invasion.
I don't see how a flag planted in 1765 and with a population already settled on the islands can make the islands British.
The islands were never British.
Regards..
The quick action of the Spanish Crown expulsing the stealth illegal British settlement was decisive in denouncing the treacherous British actions; their constant violations of the agreements they signed are a testament to the lack of honour of their word.
Apr 04th, 2024 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -4Malvinas Argentinas por siempre.
Patrick Edgar have you ever been to Argentina?
Apr 04th, 2024 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You write: “The “Casa Rosa” is translated The Rose House, not “The Pink House”. ”
Who cares? where is your “Casa Rosa”?
The Casa Rosada is the official workplace of the president.
Everybody in Argentina knows that The “Casa Rosada” literally means the “Pink House”.
It is alleged that it originally was painted with a mixture of water and cow's blood, although it is more likely that the colour simply was decided to be a mixture of the two main political parties' colours, the red colour of the Federales, and the white colour of the Unitarios.
Patsy the Expat is a poser...
Apr 04th, 2024 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvi Malvi Malvi, what a load of tosh, and you know it,
Apr 05th, 2024 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0You use to be a good debater, not any more though,
https://en.mercopress.com/2024/04/03/milei-pledges-to-obtain-a-roadmap-for-the-return-of-malvinas-during-his-mandate/comments#comment530749
Apr 05th, 2024 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +1My post on another MP article showing why Argentina's claim would still never have had any legal basis even if the Falklands had been indisputably Spanish (they weren't)
Spain hadn't established sovereignty of the Falklands before the French and British settlements. Spain's claims had no legal basis whatsoever
In 1648 Spain and the Netherlands signed the Treaty of Münster in which Spain recognised the independence of the Netherlands. In that treaty both Spain and the Netherlands accepted their territories were what they held and possessed. It's impossible to 'hold and possess' a territory where you have never established a settlement or a fort or something like that, which at the time in Spain's case included the Falklands and many parts of the Americas. That France caved into Spain's baseless demands did not mean the UK had any obligation to do the same. If Spain had any rights in the Falklands it got them after the French handover, not before, and they were limited to East Falkland as Spain never held and possessed West Falkland. As I show in the link above those rights never passed to Argentina.
Malvi, you incorrect on just about every point you make! Britain discovered, and claimed, the islands in 1594. Neither the French, nor the British were aware of one another's presence until the British found them at Port Louis. Spain never “administered” the Falklands at all and their failed settlement, in 1771, left after a few, short, years. Spain never ceded anything to “Argentina” in 1816, in fact, Spain didn't recognise your independence until 1856. But you know all this.
Apr 06th, 2024 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Regards.
“when Mariano Moreno presented the government in London with a letter of protest.”
Apr 06th, 2024 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK can rely on the Peace of Utrecht, which explicitly bars any Argentine claim of succession.
“...it is hereby further agreed and concluded, that neither the Catholic King, nor any of his heirs and successors whatsoever, shall sell, yield, pawn, transfer, or by any means, or under any name, alienate from them and the crown of Spain, to the French, or to any other nations whatever, any lands, dominions, or territories, or any part thereof, belonging to Spain in America.”
The Nootka Convention: ”...Article VI provided that neither party would form new establishments on any of the islands adjacent to the east and west coasts of South America then occupied by Spain....... there was an additional secret article which stipulated that Article VI shall remain in force only so long as no establishment shall have been formed by the subjects of any other power on the coasts in question. This secret article had the same force as if it were inserted in the convention.......The United Provinces of the River Plate was not a party to the convention. Therefore it is defined in the convention as 'other power' and the occupation of the settlement (at Port Louis) by subjects of any other power negated Article VI and allowed Great Britain to re-assert prior sovereignty and form new settlements.
http ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nootka_Convention
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Apcbg/Nootka_Sound_Convention
The British Foreign Secretary at the time, Lord Palmerston, ... ... On 27 July 1849, in reply to a question in the House of Commons, he said:
“... a claim had been made many years ago, on the part of Buenos Ayres, to the Falkland Islands, and had been resisted by the British Government. Great Britain had always disputed and denied the claim of Spain to the Falkland Islands, and she was not therefore willing to yield to Buenos Ayres what had been refused to Spain”
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