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OAS passes unanimous declaration favoring Argentina's stance regarding Falklands/Malvinas
The Organization of American States (OAS) unanimously adopted a declaration during its General Assembly in Antigua and Barbuda, supporting Argentina’s sovereignty claim over the Falkland/Malvinas Islands, South Georgia, and South Sandwich Islands. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesArgentina's arguments at the OAS are similar to the ones that it made recently at the C24.
Jun 28th, 2025 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +2A Critical Analysis of Argentina at the UN C24 Decolonisation Committee:- https://www.academia.edu/130114630/A_Critical_Analysis_of_Argentina_at_the_UN_C24_Decolonisation_Committee
I'm sure they all feel very satisfied with their firm and decisive action, meanwhile, back in the real world ------------
Jun 28th, 2025 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Do they really support Argentina or are they just going through the motions, probably the latter, just another pointless talking shop,
Jun 28th, 2025 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Territorial Integrity first. It is Simple in America and in the world, Crimea with Ukraine, Chagos with Mauricio, Malvinas with Argentina.
Jun 28th, 2025 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -3nitrojuan
Jun 28th, 2025 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Territorial Integrity UNGA 1514 of 1960
UN Resolutions Cannot be Applied Retroactively
The fact that UN Resolutions such as 1514 cannot be applied retroactively is evidenced by the fact that the UNICJ has made a number of judgments in respect of the non-retroactivity of resolutions such as the Ambatielos case stating that there had been no special clause or any special object necessitating retroactive interpretation (ICJ Ambatielos Case, Greece v UK Judgment, 1 July 1952, p40). And the Lockerbie case states that both Security Council and General Assembly resolutions cannot be applied retroactively (ICJ Libya -v- USA Preliminary Objections Judgment, 27 Feb 1968, p25, para 43).
UNGA 1514 of 1960 cannot be applied to 1833.
Even so, when were the Falklands ever Argentinian?
Another indoctrinated Argie troll who believes the pack of lies he has been fed over the years, Nitro, the islands have never been Argentinian, take your head out of your ass and do some genuine research, the islands where British before you existed.
Jun 28th, 2025 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the motion was unanimous, presumably that means that the Trump administration also voted in favour?
Jun 28th, 2025 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This issue is not going away, its any ones guess how long it will run for. But one thing is certain the UN is a toothless organisation and has been since its creation
Jun 28th, 2025 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -2You can quote UN resolutions all you like, they mean nothing. The real decisions are made by the club of the UN Security Council if they are in agreement and no one uses their veto
In the world of today the rule of concensus and international law does not exist you only have to look at the likes of the USA, Iran,,Russia,
Israel and Palestine, even the International Criminal Court is toothless when it suits
The issue is only kept alive by a few thousand fanatics and politicians. the vast majority of Argentine citizens know they will never get the Falklands, they have far more important things to concern them, its a government distraction and nothing more. a circus played out every year at the UN,
Jun 28th, 2025 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0EDF It does not matter who keeps the issue alive, it exists whether you are against or for it. Name me a country where 100% of the people agree with their governments foreign policy over international issues. Ever heard the term “ generate consent ” ?
Jun 28th, 2025 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shogun, it is a small number of fanatical older generation people that are obsessed with this lunacy, the so called war vets are slowly dying out, once they have passed away, the publics obsession with the fairy tale will weaken, even the President knows its bogus,
Jun 28th, 2025 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0EDF Can honestly say at the moment you are wrong, about it fading away, Its taught in their schools. again wkether you think that is wrong or indoctrination is irrelevant.its an opinion What is more important is what percentage of the younger generation will run with it. having spent time in Latinj America including Argentina over the years I find that a large percentage of those who are politically active or inclined and not just the Peronistas run with it and all of these are against military action the reason some of Milei´s pronouncements appeal to them
Jun 28th, 2025 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On this subject i disagree with you Shogun, i have looked at countless comments by Argentinians and had lots of conversations with them and from what i see and reed is that many many Argentinians are neither interested or believe the fantasy of the fanatics, that number is slowly growing. as far as indoctrinating their kids, as time passes it becomes more and more ancient history, Mileis pronouncements are all over the place, he is not really interested at all in the Falklands he has said as much, but when the so called Vets start crying he says something to placate them, they may shout louder but as they fade in number that will fade, and i cant imagine future generations being that vociferous, only time will tell, but as far as the Islanders and the UK are concerned sovereignty is not up for discussion, end of story, and i look forward to the day when the Falklands becomes a full independent sovereign nation. hopefully its in my life time,
Jun 28th, 2025 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Usual Bullshit and complete miss-representation of events by Argentina, no change there then.
Jun 29th, 2025 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Firstly, the declaration regarding the Falklands actually says:
‘Regarding the Malvinas Islands, the Assembly adopted a declaration welcoming Argentina’s reaffirmed willingness to continue exploring peaceful solutions and its constructive attitude toward the island’s inhabitants. It reaffirmed the need for Argentina and the United Kingdom to resume negotiations on the sovereignty dispute to find a peaceful resolution.’
https://www.oas.org/en/media_center/press_release.asp?sCodigo=E-035/25#:~:text=Member%20states%20discussed%20the%20central,population%20groups%20across%20the%20continent.
No mention of ‘supporting Argentina’s sovereignty claim’ anywhere in the text.
As for ‘OAS Secretary-General Albert Ramdin said Argentina's sovereignty must be recognized’, well no mention of that in any of his speeches either.
Also, ‘a 1965 UN resolution calling for sovereignty discussions’, well it does not, it actually says:
‘. Invites the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to proceed without delay with the negotiations recommended by the Special Committee ... with a view to finding a peaceful solution to the problem, bearing in mind the provisions and objectives of the Charter of the United Nations and of General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) and the interests of the population of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas);..’
Again, no mention of ‘negotiating sovereignty’.
And finally, UK sovereignty is based on history, underpinned in today by the wishes of the inhabitants, the Islands have been British since long before the current settlement of the Islands.
More an act of desperation than of accurate reporting of events, but that is usual for Argentina, simply not in the real world.
https://en.mercopress.com/2025/06/19/lula-and-maduro-stand-behind-the-home-incarcerated-cfk/comments#comment532980
Jun 29th, 2025 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Pugol-H “The ‘takeaway churrascaría’ in Brazil, where you later admitted you had never been.”
How come you're unable to produce the URL for this alleged claim?
Oh! that's right, you can't because we both know it's untrue.
No proof, no truth.
Reaffirming the principle of non-intervention, proclaimed in the charters of the Organization of American States, … Recognizing that full observance of the principle of the non-intervention of States in the internal and external affairs of other States is essential to the fulfilment of the purposes and principles of the United Nations,
Considering further that direct intervention, subversion and all forms of indirect intervention are contrary to these principles and, consequently, constitute a violation of the Charter of the United Nations,
…1. No State has the right to intervene, directly or indirectly, for any reason whatever, in the internal or external affairs of any other State.Consequently, ..and all other forms of interference or attempted threats against the personality of the State or against its political, economic and cultural elements, are condemned.
…6. All States shall respect the right of self-determination and independence of peoples and nations, to be freely exercised without any foreign pressure,
What a stupid statement saying the Falklands are Argentine. Not from where I am sitting. Very British so it is and always will be. I sugest all you squeakers out there do some real homework and see if you can find a document, any document where there is a recorded statement signed by Spain or better still one signed by France saying Britain does not own these islands.
Jun 29th, 2025 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Could anyone of you also produce a document that says the indigenous people of Patagonia agreed to Letting Argentina have their land.
Britain first made their claim in 1690. The British claim to sovereignty dates from 1690, when they made the first recorded landing on the islands,
Where was Argentina, France, even Spain when that document was made. Argentina did not then exist.
So come on dig up some real proof that says otherwise. Argentina in 1816 became independent after six years of war with Spain who did not actually recognise them. Spain formally recognized Argentina's independence in 1863 with the signing of the Treaty of Peace and Amity. This treaty established diplomatic relations between the two nations. While Argentina declared its independence in 1816, it took Spain several decades to officially acknowledge it. So do tell how Spain gifted to you any assets.
Well, actually:
Jun 30th, 2025 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://en.mercopress.com/2021/04/17/argentine-president-fernandez-sticks-to-restrictive-measures-and-clashes-with-buenos-aires-mayor/comments#comment516044
If you are now saying (once again) that you have been to Brazil, where is your proof, and not just another picture of some stupid Tankard?
“If ... you have been to Brazil”
Jun 30th, 2025 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Oh yes I have. I could show my passport stamp at same site as my tankard. But don't have to, as you have just provided all evidence of your lying attempts as an 'enabler'. To two confirmed fascists, in personal attacks on myself.
As to your claim as to toiletry habits in Brazil.
It's a GOT YOU AGAIN, stupid is as stupid does. I'd try a new career, as you are the least successful liar on the planet.
https ://acanadianinbrazil.com/2019/09/02/bathrooms-in-brazil/
https ://brazilphenomenon.wordpress.com/2013/04/19/living-in-brazil-electric-showers-toilet-litter-and-other-oddities/
https://thebrazilbusiness.com/article/going-to-the-toilet-in-brazil
http ://wheredoiputthepaper.com.
So you have yet again also proved my claim.
As your animus as an enabler acting on behalf of a malignant narcissist, and another enabler against myself; is well documented on this site. Your 'brown-nosing' was so 'self-evident' that you earned yourself the sobriquet 'Clinker' (“dried feces attached to the hairs of the buttocks”)
@ Falklands-Free: ....any document where there is a recorded statement signed by Spain or better still one signed by France saying Britain does not own these islands....
Jul 01st, 2025 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“Monsieur Louis de Bougainville colonel of his Most Christian Majesty's Army. I have received six hundred and eighteen thousand one hundred and eight livres thirteen sols and eleven deniers being the amount of an estimate that I have given in of the expenses incurred by the St. Malo Company in equipment for founding their intrusive establishments in the Malvinas Islands belonging to his Catholic Majesty. In consideration of these payments as well as in obedience to his Most Christian Majesty's orders I am bound to deliver up in due formality to the court of Spain those establishments along with the families, houses, works, timber and shipping built there, and employed in the expedition, and finally everything therein belonging to the St. Malo Company as included in the accounts, which are so settled and to his Most Christian Majesty by this voluntary cession making void forever all claims that the company or any person interested therein may have or might produce upon the treasury of his Most Catholic Majesty nor can they henceforth demand more pecuniary or any other compensation whatsoever.”
Voyage autour du monde:
“France having acknowledged the Catholic King´s right to the Malouines, he, by a principle of the law of nations, owed no reimbursement to these costs. However, as his majesty took all the ships, boats, goods, arms, ammunition, and provisions that belonged to our settlement, he being equally just and generous, desired that we should be reimbursed for what we had laid out; and the above sum was remitted to us by his treasurers; part at Paris, and the rest at Buenos Ayres.”
France's recognition that the islands belong to Spain is quite clear. Logically, this document answers your question by stating that Great Britain is not the owner of the islands.
Regards.
Tel
Jul 01st, 2025 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Errr, actually it’s you who makes claims about ‘toiletry habits in Brazil’, and have been for some time now! Hence the question 'have you ever been to Brazil'.
https://en.mercopress.com/2020/10/17/brazilian-senator-close-ally-of-bolsonaro-forced-to-resign-over-hidden-cash/comments#comment512332
Malv
The Bougainville settlement was a clear violation of British sovereignty established in 1690.
A violation of British sovereignty but not a threat to it.
Where Britain legally ‘took possession’ of the territory a year later in 1765.
The French off loaded their settlement to the Spanish when they realised the British were nearby and would kick them out once they discovered them.
As the Spanish found out in 1771.
That Britain gave permission for the settlement of 1828 and then sent diplomatic protests to UP (larval Argentina) in 1829 and 1832 on the subject, both of which were ignored, shows that Argentina has known from the very beginning that the British maintained their prior claim to the Islands.
The most Argentina can claim to have inherited from Spain is a dispute, which had been resolved in Britain’s favour some fifty years before.
Where Spain only ‘gifted’ the Islands to Argentina in 1866 when they didn’t control any part of the territory and Argentina had already signed the treaty of 1850 acquiescing to the British claim.
As for S. Georgia/S. Sandwich Islands Britain took possession of both in 1776. Argentina first claimed them in 1923 and 1943 respectively. So, both were undisputedly British for longer than Argentina has disputed the British claim.
Similar story in the Antarctic, Britain had finished claiming its territory by 1841, Argentina made its first claim in 1912 or so.
These are the basic facts, the ‘uncomfortable truth’ for you Malv.
“Brazil, where you have never even been”
Jul 01st, 2025 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your claim, your burden to prove.
No proof, no truth.
“Trying to cover up by arguing Civvy Plumbers empty RAF Bogs”
Then prove what you claim, pick the trade that is assigned to such tasks.
https ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Royal_Air_Force_Ground_Trades
“Bog Busters Squadron”
Your unsupported assertion versus the facts.
”the electronic countermeasures (ECM) role, disbanded, with the Valiant equipped C Flight being redesignated No. 18 Squadron. The squadron's seven Valiants were fitted with an array of powerful jammers to interfere with communications and radar.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._18_Squadron_RAF
“With the ability to read Morse” Is there no end to your spectacular failures. My function was to service and repair airborne communications and navigation equipment. With also a special remit of ECM equipment.
”Telegraphists were trained to operate, and often maintain, a variety of equipment. These included teleprinters, telephones, radios and computers. As well as being competent & fast touch-typists, Telegraphists were also schooled in the Morse and Murray codes, cryptography, signal propagation and aerial theory.” https ://47th.weebly.com/about.html
But you stick with your argumenta ad tedium, as you have no proof of anything you claim.
Whereas, I have proof every thing I claim, that's how adults do it.
Tel
Jul 02nd, 2025 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0DT hit the nail on the head about you:
https://en.mercopress.com/2020/06/06/pirralha-blasts-bolsonaro-for-failing-to-manage-the-coronavirus-pandemic/comments#comment509359
‘Weapons grade obliviousness’ sums it up nicely.
Not in the real world, nothing to say worth listening to and not worth talking to.
You get more sense talking to that picture of a Tankard.
@ Pugol
Jul 02nd, 2025 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Violation of British sovereignty established in 1690.
No British sovereignty was established in 1690.
Your favorite authors, Pepper and Pascoe, acknowledge that the English did not discover the islands. They also acknowledge that Spanish sailors spent months on the islands in 1540. The islands appear on Spanish maps long before that.
Furthermore, according to the law of the time, discovery is perfected with occupation.
Finally, you must not forget that Admiral Anson's intention to explore the islands was thwarted when Spain did not allow incursions into its territory.
Where Britain legally ‘took possession’ of the territory a year later in 1765.
You cannot “take possession” of something that has already been “taken.”
You also say it yourself, A YEAR LATER!
Not to mention that it cannot be considered a taking of possession when Commodore Byron immediately set sail.
The French off loaded their settlement to the Spanish when they realised the British were nearby and would kick them out once they discovered them.
This is pure speculation on your part.
The historical fact is that the English clandestinely settled in Puerto de la Trinidad-Port Egmont. The English were sought out and found by the Spanish and then expelled.
It's amusing to read how the British try to change or twist historical facts in the absence of any evidence.
Regards.
Yes Malvi British sovereignty was established in 1690, stop lying its you who does all the historical twisting of facts but you are too indoctrinated to see it, yes the Spanish usurped us (your favourite word ) but when war was threatened they backed down, no clandestine settlement what so ever, another one of your lies, France and Spain knew of our claim. you lie through your teeth time after time about the true history of the islands, but your government will never go to the ICJ, why ? because the Malvinas myth is nothing but a lie and easily manipulated idiots get conned like yourself, so either put up or shut up, tell your government fanatics to go to court, settle this once and for all, but no it will never happen because the United Provinces do not have a legal leg to stand on,
Jul 02nd, 2025 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +1“DT hit the nail on the head about you”
Jul 02nd, 2025 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aha! Another “enabler” with his Ad hominin attacks, and other than his opinion; not one fact(like yourself) to rely on.
Who claims he “intercede on behalf of is logic and reason”. Just another 'flying monkey' like you in support of he 'malignant narcisist'.
Who has temerity to claim “The only thing I intercede on behalf of is logic and reason” Just another factless statement
No proof, no truth.
As I posted at that URL in response to his earlier post.
DT “you're the reason I have such a low opinion of you,”
Thank God, I get all that necessary elements right. Your own less than stellar character, is driven by petty immature and emotional responses. So I will consider my myself extremely blessed, if I'm considered the source of your disquiet, as your own behavior richly deserves it.
“There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance.” Hippocrates
I see that silly little Argentine troll is posting his nonsense again,
Jul 03rd, 2025 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0“According to the law of the time, discovery is perfected with occupation”
Jul 03rd, 2025 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“... a claim had been made many years ago, on the part of Buenos Ayres, to the Falkland Islands, and had been resisted by the British Government. Great Britain had always disputed and denied the claim of Spain to the Falkland Islands, and she was not therefore willing to yield to Buenos Ayres what had been refused to Spain.” “The withdrawal of His Majesty's forces from these islands, in the year 1774, cannot be considered as invalidating His Majesty's just rights. That measure took place in pursuance of a system of retrenchment, adopted at that time by His Britannic Majesty's Government. But the marks and signals of possession and property were left upon the islands. When the Governor took his departure, the British flag remained flying, and all those formalities were observed which indicated the rights of ownership, as well as an intention to resume the occupation of that territory, at a more convenient season.”
Getting it right: the real history of the Falklands/Malvinas by Graham Pascoe and Peter Pepper
Malvinense 1833
Jul 04th, 2025 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse +1OK so now tell me where does it state that France or Spain gave these islands to Argentina. The breakaway country that fought a war against their own people. That document does not exist does it. However there is a document between Spain and Britain over the islands . Do please present the official we gave you the Falklands one please. That I know does not exist.
Hello Falklands-Free
Jul 07th, 2025 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“All else being equal, the simplest explanation is usually the most likely until proven otherwise.”
Both documents exist.
The surrender of the islands by France to Spain, and the surrender of the territories that had belonged to Spain to the new Argentine nation, with Spain's recognition of Argentine independence in 1863.
Two points worth highlighting:
1. The recognition of independence is retroactive to May 25, 1810.
2. Recognition of Argentine independence by Great Britain on February 2, 1825.
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Uti possidetis iuris means that the territory belonging to the old colonial administration is transferred to the newly independent State. No express cession of sovereignty is required by the colonial power. The new State inherits the same territory by virtue of its existence as a State. The fact that Spain had not formally recognised Argentina, and only signed a Treaty of Recognition, Peace and Friendship on September 21st, 1863, is absolutely irrelevant for the sovereignty dispute. Moreover, by virtue of this treaty, Spain
recognised the Argentine Republic or Confederation as a free, sovereign and independent Nation, made up of all the provinces appearing in its Federal constitution in force, besides the territories that legally belong or will belong in future to that Nation.
Article 4 further recognises the 25th of May, 1810 as the date of Argentine succession to Spain’s rights and obligations.
Credits Kohen-Rodríguez
Regards.
Credits Kohen-Rodriguez means nothing, its time you grew up and stopped with all the silly BS, your family deserves better,
Jul 07th, 2025 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“New State inherits the same territory by virtue of its existence as a State.”
Jul 07th, 2025 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just a couple of problems, first nobody recognised any such thing.
”As late as 1886 the (US)Secretary of State found it necessary to inform the Argentine Government that as “the resumption of actual occupation of the Falkland Islands by Great Britain in 1833 took place under a claim of title which had been previously asserted and maintained by that Government, it is not seen that the Monroe Doctrine, which has been invoked on the part of the Argentine Republic, has any application to the case. By the terms in which that principle of international conduct was announced, it was expressly excluded from retroactive operation.”
P.60 Sovereignty and the Falkland Islands Crisis D.W. Greig
Secondly, Argentine is claim is excluded by the Peace and Friendship Treaty of Utrecht between Spain and Great Britain
ARTICLE VIII
“...it is hereby further agreed and concluded, that neither the Catholic King, nor any of his heirs and successors whatsoever, shall sell, yield, pawn, transfer, or by any means, or under any name, alienate from them and the crown of Spain, to the French, or to any other nations whatever, any lands, dominions, or territories, or any part thereof, belonging to Spain in America.”
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