Tuesday afternoon on May 31st saw the signing of the Wild Life and Protected Areas Ordinance for the Government of the South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands (GSGSSI). Read full article
totally agree: ”remove from the islands the invasive species (non natives)which threaten the success of the latin native endemic flora and fauna” you cant say it better
... The Wildlife and Protected Areas Ordinance makes the import and release of non-native species illegal and also prohibits the transport of existing non-native species to new areas .....
Dim - that's a really crap answer ... the reality of course, is that you cannot, regardless of your wants .. SO, you have no basis for your claim! I knew that.
Everybody who cares about human rights and environmental justice should support the lawsuit by the Mauritian government against the creation of a marine protected area used to further the imperialist and racist policies of the U.S. and British governments towards the Chagossians
Mauritius sues British government over Chagos marine protected area
malen (#)
totally agree: ”remove argentinians from the islands the invasive species (non natives)which threaten the success of the latin native endemic flora and fauna” you cant say it better, and we agree, ARGENTINA thus should set an example and leave first, ,do the world a favour, go back and suck eggs lol.
Hi Justin, Malen,
I'm pretty sure that the indigenous populations of SG & SSIs did not include human beings - thus the issues of prior occupancy are somewhat different from 'Argentina', where we know there were human prior occupants since 10,000bp.
Even so, the 'removal of non-natives' makes the obvious TFI/Malvenas joke.
Justin: How many Argentines are descended from the indigenous peoples?
These things are researched and known, though not by me at the moment.
I imagine, after 9-10 generation, a very large proportion of Argentineans contain some indigenous DNA components, however small.
'Recent' immigrants, proportionately (and probably geometrically) less so due to the massive indiginous mortalities incurred during the 19th century.
So, no one can tell me the basis for Argentina's claim to South Georgia and the SSI's ?
This is not entirely surprising as Argentina has no basis for its claim, or at least not a viable one. The reality is that Argentina claims these islands on the basis of 'geography', much as it does with the Falkland Islands. At least with the Falkland Islands there is sufficient history of Spanish involvement for the Argentine government to spin its twisted version of history to make up a spurious claim. But it has nothing else with South Georgia and the SSI's other than geography.
And that's not a good case, rejected under international law in 1928.
@15Redhoyt,
l have also asked this question. The best that Herr Think could come up with was because we want them. A completely nonsensical answer.
We all want a lot of things,doesn't mean to say that we are entitled to them.
l would like some of the Russian crown jewells, but l never will get them & l'm not entitled to them.
Argentina has absolutely no case. They want the islands because they want to exploit Antarctica & let no one else in. They thought that Britain was washed up and could not stop them. Hah!
lt finally comes to me that, because of their belligerency, the only way we are going to get peace and security in the south Atlantic is to break Argentina into much smaller countries. lt should be done sooner rather than later.
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Disclaimer & comment rulestotally agree: ”remove from the islands the invasive species (non natives)which threaten the success of the latin native endemic flora and fauna” you cant say it better
Jun 01st, 2011 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fail.
Jun 01st, 2011 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0 ... The Wildlife and Protected Areas Ordinance makes the import and release of non-native species illegal and also prohibits the transport of existing non-native species to new areas .....
Jun 01st, 2011 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yup ... keeping Argies out !
Pirates (non native species illegals of SA) out!!
Jun 01st, 2011 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ok, Mad'un ... a question ... on what basis does Argentina claim South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands ?
Jun 01st, 2011 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0I should add that it's a trick question and that no Argentine has managed to answer it so far ..... willing to give it a shot ?
@Redhoyt
Jun 01st, 2011 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Allow me to say this in a polite way...
Because we can and because we want too and may be we will claim Windsor castle in the future.
Why not?
Argentines must know it's never going to happen - so why do they perpetually humiliate themselves on the issue?
Jun 01st, 2011 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dim - that's a really crap answer ... the reality of course, is that you cannot, regardless of your wants .. SO, you have no basis for your claim! I knew that.
Jun 01st, 2011 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pirates (non native species illegals of SA
Jun 01st, 2011 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Including you?
British Pirates new tactics.
Jun 01st, 2011 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everybody who cares about human rights and environmental justice should support the lawsuit by the Mauritian government against the creation of a marine protected area used to further the imperialist and racist policies of the U.S. and British governments towards the Chagossians
Mauritius sues British government over Chagos marine protected area
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/01/20/18669722.php
Malen #1,
Jun 01st, 2011 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I, at least, saw the funny side of your posting.
: )
#11 Thing is Geoff, you can look at that two ways. How many Argentines are descended from the indigenous peoples?
Jun 01st, 2011 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0malen (#)
Jun 01st, 2011 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0totally agree: ”remove argentinians from the islands the invasive species (non natives)which threaten the success of the latin native endemic flora and fauna” you cant say it better, and we agree, ARGENTINA thus should set an example and leave first, ,do the world a favour, go back and suck eggs lol.
Hi Justin, Malen,
Jun 02nd, 2011 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm pretty sure that the indigenous populations of SG & SSIs did not include human beings - thus the issues of prior occupancy are somewhat different from 'Argentina', where we know there were human prior occupants since 10,000bp.
Even so, the 'removal of non-natives' makes the obvious TFI/Malvenas joke.
Justin: How many Argentines are descended from the indigenous peoples?
These things are researched and known, though not by me at the moment.
I imagine, after 9-10 generation, a very large proportion of Argentineans contain some indigenous DNA components, however small.
'Recent' immigrants, proportionately (and probably geometrically) less so due to the massive indiginous mortalities incurred during the 19th century.
So, no one can tell me the basis for Argentina's claim to South Georgia and the SSI's ?
Jun 03rd, 2011 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is not entirely surprising as Argentina has no basis for its claim, or at least not a viable one. The reality is that Argentina claims these islands on the basis of 'geography', much as it does with the Falkland Islands. At least with the Falkland Islands there is sufficient history of Spanish involvement for the Argentine government to spin its twisted version of history to make up a spurious claim. But it has nothing else with South Georgia and the SSI's other than geography.
And that's not a good case, rejected under international law in 1928.
@15Redhoyt,
Jun 04th, 2011 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0l have also asked this question. The best that Herr Think could come up with was because we want them. A completely nonsensical answer.
We all want a lot of things,doesn't mean to say that we are entitled to them.
l would like some of the Russian crown jewells, but l never will get them & l'm not entitled to them.
Argentina has absolutely no case. They want the islands because they want to exploit Antarctica & let no one else in. They thought that Britain was washed up and could not stop them. Hah!
lt finally comes to me that, because of their belligerency, the only way we are going to get peace and security in the south Atlantic is to break Argentina into much smaller countries. lt should be done sooner rather than later.
@lsolde
Jun 04th, 2011 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who plays with fire soon or later gets burned.
: )
@17 NicoDin,
Jun 05th, 2011 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes Nicholas, thats true. You should remember that & stop playing with fire.
I suspect he plays with something else while typing one handed in here to get his jollies.
Jun 05th, 2011 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1...' latin native ..... flora' ... I guess he means RG Pansies....
Jun 07th, 2011 - 05:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0@20 Frank,
Jun 07th, 2011 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Malen is a she. She is still wrong about the Falklands though.
... and RG land is still full of pansies.....
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