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Argentine lawmakers present Falklands’ motion before the Parliamentary Union
Argentine lawmakers participating of the Inter Parliamentary Union, IPU, in Switzerland presented a motion referred to the Falklands/Malvinas, calling for a ban on the exploitation of natural resources in those countries that have been invaded by military forces. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesSo Argentina is claiming that the FI cannont drill for oil based on the fact that the islands were invaded by Argentina in 1982?
Oct 26th, 2011 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hmmmm, I think I the delegates would rather discuss more important and pressing issues like the famine in East Africa and human rights!
‘our Malvinas Islands
Oct 26th, 2011 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Makes me wonder what the Argies want to to“ discuss” on the future of the Falklands, no wonder they keep getting F****d off by the Brits
And yet another nail..........................
Oct 26th, 2011 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, the islands were invaded by England in 1833.
Oct 26th, 2011 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One can only assume that Argentina cannot exploit any of its own natural resources due to the Spanish invasion then.
Oct 26th, 2011 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You proposed a motion Think. A motion that will have no legs and in the context of greater problems in the world will be dismissed as easily as any other motion you decide to propose. Your motions are of no concern or significance.
Oct 26th, 2011 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you think a motion is one of your nails then I am suprised you have such low standards.
Carry on with your meaningless motions think (you decide to avoid the ICJ which is the only place to go if you are truly serious). We will keep on drilling, but with two rigs ;-)
Not even a tin-tack Think .. look at the other subjects. Serious stuff.
Oct 26th, 2011 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina's proposal?
A joke, as usual.
Even Cristina's getting bored. The Islands hardly appeared in this last campaign ... running out of steam?
And yet another nail
Oct 26th, 2011 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And
Leiv Eirksson oil rig leaves for the Falklands from Greenland next month
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This ban would by definition include Argentina, as it was invaded by military forces and ethnically cleansed the Amerindians by military forces.
Oct 26th, 2011 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If anyone should benefit by the exploitation of natural resources in Argentina it should be the Amerindians. The European colonials should be banned from exploiting their land. This should include the ownership of that land.
TWIMC
Oct 26th, 2011 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentinean motion on a “Ban on the exploitation of natural resources in countries that have been invaded by military forces” carries much more weight and significance than just the “Malvinas Issue”
It refers as much to recently invaded/assisted countries as Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya……………
The motion is assured the positive vote from many delegates around the globe.
Ps1:
May I ask the expert………..
Who is going to be drilling with two rigs next year?
We know about the plans of FOGL and BOR with the Leiv Eiriksson…..
Who is going to pay for the Ocean Guardian?
ARG? DES? RKH?
What will they be paying with?
Think - it is highly proable that the OG will remain in the FI for quite some time yet. We have at least 2 drills in the next two months and possibly a stab at Bev! RKH also have indicated they want to stick another hole in the Johnson gas prospect.
Oct 26th, 2011 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Once RKH has completed apprisal then we will know more, and negotiations with interested parties has already started. Once SeaLion is a booked asset then raising finance will not be an issue (much like raising money against the value of a house). However I suspect a farm-in agreement will be reached which will provide a huge amount of revenue to drill as many holes as RKH want. Now if the drill after this current one comes in then DES will be back on cards.
ARG will use the OG as they will simply issue a placing to raise the required capital and there will be plenty of takers considerig there are no mobilization costs as the rig and support services are already in place. If you wish to have a punt then I would suggest waiting for the placing price as this removes a variable (that is what I am doing).
Exciting times for the brave.
(#) 1 amigo
Oct 26th, 2011 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0say my hello to your wife, she is India origin isn't she !
Another appeal to an international body with no authority. Has anybody in Argentina considered approaching the International Primate Protection League? Assuming Argentines are primates. They are certainly not human.
Oct 26th, 2011 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Boy, are you clowns getting desperate. Have you tried the International Philatelic Union? You like to stamp, don't you? Perhaps you shouldn't have listened to your Nazi masters.
Ed - no, my wife is from Wales. She is fairly well travelled though and her thesis was in comparative literature.
Oct 26th, 2011 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think - by your reasoning then, Iraq has no rights to exploit its own resources, and neither would Afghanistan? That is a bit harsh. Your county was invaded so you now have no right to exploit your own resources.
So regional gvts are not alowed to decide on whom to issue licences to. Who should decide then? Argentina now recognizes the NTC as the gvt of Libya but now they do not have the right to exploit their oil wealth?
Not exactly following you on that one??????
#13 Another body of no consequence, perhaps they should return to the International Conference on Sexually Tranmitted Diseases and demand to be held responsible for STD in the Falklands.
Oct 26th, 2011 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently all of these worlds organisation cringe every time Argentina turns up,
Oct 26th, 2011 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They have no interest in the worlds poor or poverty,
Other people problems, banking crises, diseases or anything else that matters to the human race,
All Argentina is interested in, wherever she goes is the Falklands, Falklands the Falklands,
ARGENTINA IS OBSESED WITH THE FALKLANDS
To the point of stalking all nations to her way of thinking,
And you wonder why the laughs at Argentina,
As you fools like facts,, let me give you a fact,
Your obsession with the Falklands will inevitably end up destroying and breaking up your own country, rather that argentine getting the Falklands, you will find independence getting in the way of argentines future .
As they say, [breaking up is hard to do] and it will happen,
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No Argie poster has explained why their poxy gvt refuses to go to the ICJ. Sometimes just sticking one's head in the sand is just too convenient.
Oct 26th, 2011 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I like my sand flooded with oil though, especially when it is in the North Falkland Basin :-)
“ ... April 29th - The British Prime Minister updates Parliament, and deals with a suggestion of arbitration;
Oct 26th, 2011 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ Although we have no doubt about our sovereignty over the Falkland Islands, South Georgia, South Sandwich or British Antarctic Territory, some of my right hon. and hon. Friends have suggested that we refer the matter to the International Court of Justice. Since Argentina does not accept the compulsory jurisdiction of the court, the issue cannot be referred for a binding decision without her agreement.
We have never sought a ruling on the Falkland Islands themselves from that court, but we have raised the question of the dependencies on three separate occasions—in 1947, 1949 and 1951. Each time Argentina refused to go to the court.
In 1955, the British Government applied unilaterally to the International Court of Justice against encroachments on British sovereignty in the dependencies by Argentina. Again, the court advised that it could not pursue the matter since it could act only if there was agreement between the parties recognising the court's jurisdiction.
In 1977, Argentina, having accepted the jurisdiction of an international court of arbitration on the Beagle Channel dispute with Chile, then refused to accept its results. It is difficult to believe in Argentina's good faith with that very recent example in mind.
There is no reason, given the history of this question, for Britain, which has sovereignty and is claiming nothing more, to make the first move. It is Argentina that is making a claim. If Argentina wanted to refer it to the International Court, we would consider the possibility very seriously. But in the light of past events it would be hard to have confidence that Argentina would respect a judgment that it did not like....”
http://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/1982-2/
Basically, they know they don't have any legitimate basis for their claim, they know its all made up nationalist fairy stories from the 1930s that would not stand up to scrutiny as evidence in any court.
Oct 27th, 2011 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Their politicians continue the falsehood for the purpose of maintaining internal political power, nothing more, and the longer they do so, the more often they bleed this falsehood on the International stage, the more they look the prat.
C'mon, Argentina. what are you waiting for? ICJ, now?
Oct 27th, 2011 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Considering not even the UN states the Falklands as being part of Argentina, or indeed under a state of military occupation, or likewise were acquired through an act of inter state aggression, it is indeed hard to see what impact this would have, I also note with gleeful delight that these senators, these brave pioneers of international law have referred to countries as a whole, as opposed to territories......effectively using the bizarre parallel dimensional logic known as Argentine political thought, because they consider the Malvinas as part of Argentina and under military occupation, all exploitation of resources in Argentina must cease.....wooops!
Oct 27th, 2011 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly what is stopping the Islanders from pursuing their Independence?
Oct 27th, 2011 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If they want to do it now, Can they? Just a question
(20) Isolde
Oct 27th, 2011 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Relax Isolde…
Do not push it….
Haste makes Waste!
Haven’t you ever heard about diplomatic foreplay?
From the world of liars
Oct 27th, 2011 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To the worlds greatest talker,
And Argentina will be talking to the ends of time
And the Falklands will still be British,
If you have given up the guts to fight for them,
Then I suppose talking will just have to do for you,
After all, you don’t want another wasted trip to the Falklands in haste,
Just to be kicked out again and humiliated would you, laugh laugh
Haven’t you ever heard about diplomatic foreplay?
Oct 27th, 2011 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the Argies suffered from a hair trigger in 82, Ruining the relationship :-)))))
22 Artillero601
Oct 27th, 2011 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My little fascist pile of cat shit... they can have independence whenever they want, but a little fascist nation called Argentina is the problem.
Think - diplomatic foreplay? I would suggest Argentina is more troubled with diplomatic impotence with occasional diplomatic premature ejaculation. Neither of which lead to a satisfying outcome for Argentina.
Oct 27th, 2011 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile RKH is busy banging away in the North Falkland Basin.
Art - legally the Islanders could opt for independence now.
Oct 27th, 2011 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina would scream at the UN but legally there's nothing it could do.
It's the illegal that the Islanders worry about.
@23Think,
Oct 28th, 2011 - 08:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0You're not game to carry through, Think. You're all bluff.
@28Redhoyt,
The Falklands could declare lndependence, get it all sorted out & approved at the UN, then ask for British protection.
Argentina would have kittens, but who cares what they think anyway.
@28 @ 29
Oct 28th, 2011 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so what are they waiting for?
@26
“My little fascist pile of cat shit ” Who me? Go fuck your self!
my opinion is that it would not work.
Oct 28th, 2011 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0cannot work, and wont be allowed to work,
remember trust is the key, trust old boy,
remeber belize,,,,,,they do ?
no one gives a toss what the Argi Gov want, the world knows they will get sweet FA in the end,
Oct 28th, 2011 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I believe on the basis of the British occupation of Río de la Plata, Argentina is in fact part of Britain..
Oct 28th, 2011 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Art - maybe they like being an Overseas Territory of Britain?
Oct 28th, 2011 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Independence is not compulsory.
It is only one of the outcomes acceptable to the UN in the decolonisation process.
Up to the Islanders.
And that's the way it should be :-)
“so what are they waiting for?”
Oct 29th, 2011 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'd guess they like the fact that if Argentina went nuts and invaded again someone would try help them out.
you are correct ZETHE
Oct 29th, 2011 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Trust is the key,
if Argentina promised to except their independence, Britain gave the Falklands their independence, then the British went home,
And all live in bliss, for abt a couple of weeks / months, then one night
???????Next morning Argentina is in control of the Falklands,
now it would be almost imposable to get them out, as argie friends would now support them, it would be very hard to get our allies to support us, remove a nation that not only claims it is theirs, and the Falklands being an independent state,,,,,, my opinion is this,
After all said and done, can or will the Falkland islanders TRUST Argentina to keep their promise, and please don’t quote rights or laws,
They mean nothing to Argentina,,, just a thought,
On the basis of the British invasion of Río de la Plata I have been able to establish that Argentina is in fact owned by Great Britain.
Oct 29th, 2011 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have been tabling a series of motions at the UN in order to officially establish this claim to Argentina. There is historical president for this, on the basis of an almost 200 year invasion of the Falkland Islands by a German and some British ex patriots, Argentina claims the Falkland Islands.
I can establish as historical fact that Río de la Plata was invaded by Britain and that this claim was never renounced, there is over 200 years of continued British claim to Argentina.
This makes all Argentines suject to British law and taxation. I am planning to get Buenos Aires renamed Port of Britain. Argentina will be called Bairdland, after the leader of British forces in the first occupation of Río de la Plata.
It is important to state that this did not happen just once - as in the Argentine claim to the Falklands..... but twice!
can any Argentine government be trusted? “I don't think so as not even the Argentine people trust them”,
Oct 31st, 2011 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l will NEVER trust them,EVER.
Nov 01st, 2011 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0I, relax (like you tell me all the time) , let us take over the Government and YOU and I, we will work something out. Guaranteed ! or your money back. :-))
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