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Gibraltar will never cede “an iota of sovereignty to Spain”, says Picardo

Monday, July 2nd 2012 - 05:22 UTC
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Gibraltar Chief Minister Fabian Picardo has declared that he will never hand over “a grain of sand, a drop of water or a breath of air to Spain”. In an interview with the Spanish national press agency EFE, in Gibraltar House in London, Picardo regretted the “difficult relations with Spain” but reiterated that he would never cede “an iota of sovereignty to Spain.” Read full article

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  • LEPRecon

    Well said, Mr Picardo. Spain needs to realise that Gibraltar has been British for nigh on 300 years, legally ceded by the Spainish King.

    The only people who should have a say in the future of Gibraltar are the people most affected - the Gibraltarians. They seem to like being British, and Spain will just have to grow up and accept that fact.

    Jul 02nd, 2012 - 06:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @LEPRecon

    Ha ha I just wonder what you will say when London will want to become part of Pakistan. ha ha

    Or they have not right of Self-determination?

    Jul 02nd, 2012 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @2 Dany

    Still frightened of the big bad muslims? Anyway you have no idea of the religious makeup of the UK. Muslims are less than 5% of the overall population.

    Anyway: Birmingham is more likely than London. London is probably going to be Somalia.

    Poor Dany, frightened of Democratic ideals eh? Prefer the big bad dictators telling you what to do and what to think?

    Jul 02nd, 2012 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornishair

    Wow danyberger! nice to see racism is alive and well, where ever it is you come from.

    Good on Gibraltar! :)

    Jul 02nd, 2012 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    Why does n´t Spain invest heavily in Gibraltar?! In all areas tourism,energy,fishing etc...

    Jul 02nd, 2012 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornishair

    5 What help would that be?

    Jul 02nd, 2012 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @5 - Aussie Sunshine

    Spain is currently in a financial meltdown, they have nothing to invest.

    In the meantime, lots of tourists from Spain visit Gibraltar, no one has any problem with that, it's just that the Gibraltarians prefer things as they are.

    Spain can't complain as they signed Gibraltar over to the British nearly 300yrs ago. They have no rights to Gibraltar and the people who live there should have the right to make up their own mind. If they all voted to join Spain tomorrow no one in the UK would stop them, only they don't want to join Spain, they want to retain their unique culture and identity.

    Jul 02nd, 2012 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Don’t you just love it,
    When these indocronoughts laugh at our success ,
    There envy and jealousy knows no bounds,

    Poor sods,
    If only they could see, that they are in fact, laughing at there own inability to succeed.

    .

    Jul 02nd, 2012 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    I like this man. I wish he led Uruguay or ar worst Argentina.

    I say at worst because I think the Argies would have a chance then to make a success of their country, not seen since the 1900's.

    Can you imagine that: they are insufferable now, when they are really crap, imagine what they would be like if they succeeded at something?

    Jul 02nd, 2012 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • KFC de Pollo

    @9 if Argentina got rid of the fascist peronists they might manage to do it and maybe, just maybe in the future the Falklanders might want something to do with Argentina, only maybe though.

    Jul 03rd, 2012 - 02:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @LEPRecon

    Doesn’t matter mate just with 3000 seem to be enough to claim territory and self-determination on these days.

    @cornishair

    “Wow danyberger! nice to see racism is alive and well, where ever it is you come from.”

    Are you idiot, ignorant or both?

    Jul 03rd, 2012 - 02:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @11 - Dany

    Poor show, pathetic response. How long does a group of people and their descendants have to live in a place to call it their own? 2,000 years? 1,000 years? 500 years? 300 years? 180 years? 100 years?

    Let's answer them in reverse.

    100 years - Well then Gibraltar belongs to the people who live there, and the Falkland Islands belong to the people who live there. Both populations want to remain British.
    180 years - Well then Gibraltar belongs to the people who live there, and the Falkland Islands belong to the people who live there. Both populations want to remain British.
    300 years - Well then Gibraltar belongs to the people who live there, no one living on the Falkland Islands, but Britain has claimed them along with France.
    500 years - Well then, Morroco gets Gibraltar (yes the Muslims Dany oooh - scared?), the Falklands not yet discovered.
    1000 years - Well then, Morroco gets Gibraltar, the Falklands not yet discovered.
    2000 years - Well the Romans get Gibraltar, the Falklands not yet discovered.

    Hmmm, Spain and Argentina don't really get a look in do they?

    Why are you so afraid of people having their own say and choosing their own allegiance, Dany?

    I mean, fancy people wanting to remain affiliated to the 'evil' British instead of choosing the freedom of living in stable and prosperous country's like Spain and Argentina. Just what are they thinking? How DARE they not agree with everything YOU say, how DARE they refuse to join countries with Economies in free fall.

    Strange people these Gibraltans and Falklanders, I mean fancy choosing freedom loving and stable Britain over politically and economically unstable Spain and Argentina!

    Jul 03rd, 2012 - 06:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @LEPRecon

    So London can become little Pakistan if they wish to do so?

    Lovely to support Pakistani to exercise they right to self-determination.

    Can we so make a website and an ad campaign to support them right now?

    Londonstan or Londonistan would be a good name what do you think?

    Let me see what we can do to assist the Nigerian, Somali & co. Too. Referendum perhaps?

    Jul 03rd, 2012 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @13 - Dany

    Somalia Dany, reread my post @3 and get with the programme.

    However, since the people who left places like Pakistan and Somalia for Britain want to be British (hence why they moved here - freedom, jobs, prosperity, no 'religious' police to oppress them) we don't have anything to worry about, do we?

    Why are you so racist Dany? Why are you so afraid of people with different colour skin or a different religion? I live in Birmingham and my neighbours ancestors hail from all over: Pakistan, India, Nigeria, Kenya, Poland, America, Wales, England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Chechnya, Egypt, Israel.

    My own ancestors are Irish/Italian/English

    Hmm people from all over living together peacefully, how strange? Most of these people are second or third generation, and places like Pakistan are a foreign country to them.

    It's so sad Dany that you are an afraid little racist who's scared of the 'bogeyman'. Maybe one day you'll grow up but I won't hold my breath.

    DanyBerger: the supporter of dictators and the hater of freedom. :-(

    Jul 03rd, 2012 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Betelgeuse

    It is pure obfuscation to insist, as the UK does, that Gibraltarians have a right under the principle of self-determination to remain British and still live in Gibraltar.

    Under international law there are territorial limitations to the right of self-determination for transplanted populations living in colonial enclaves where a pre-colonial claim of sovereignty exists. This is the case with Gibraltar which is listed by the UN as a territory that needs to be decolonised by the UK.

    A coloniser cannot legally disrupt the territorial integrity of another State by implanting its own population unto the territory it is colonising. In cases such as these, the inhabitants of the territory have a right to have their 'interests' considered but they have no right to unilaterally determine the nationality of the land they live in.

    The UN has confirmed that the principle of territorial integrity complements and CONSTRAINS the right to self-determination (see for example: Resolution 1514 (XV) (1960) ‘Any attempt aimed at the partial or total disruption of the national unity and the territorial integrity of a country is incompatible with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations.’).

    The UN has repeatedly invited the UK to participate in discussions to achieve the de-colonisation of Gibraltar. Unfortunately, the UK continues to rely on a discredited interpretation of the principle of self-determination to turn a deaf ear to those requests in a clearly self-serving way.

    It's worth noting that the current British enthusiasm for the principle of self-determination in the case of Gibraltar, and the Falklands for that matter, was certainly not matched by the response to the inhabitants of Diego Garcia, also a British Overseas Territory, who were evicted by the UK in 1971 against their wishes because the United States wanted the island as a military base.

    The reason why there are territorial limitations to the right of self-determination for transplanted popu

    Jul 04th, 2012 - 01:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @LEPRecon

    I wouldn’t be so sure if I would be you ¡Campaign just started.!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2020382/You-entering-Sharia-law-Britain-As-Islamic-extremists-declare-Sharia-law-zone-London-suburb-worrying-social-moral-implications.html

    Shariah law and self-determination for Birmingham too in near future, get tuned.

    Jul 04th, 2012 - 08:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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