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Spanish secessionism makes first move: Catalonia is “a sovereign political and legal entity”

Monday, January 28th 2013 - 04:49 UTC
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Catalonia regional parliament has approved a declaration proclaiming the Catalan people a “sovereign political and legal entity”. The motion also calls for a referendum to be held to allow Catalans their say on independence. Read full article

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  • Rufus

    And if Catalonia becomes independent, then what does this say for the territorial integrity of Spain?
    And does that mean that the fatuous arguement that Gibraltar is part of Spain's territorial integrity, despite having ceded it in perpetuity (which as we all know translates to “until we need to make political capital out of it” in Spanish), is now as watertight as an Argentinian destroyer.

    Jan 28th, 2013 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @1

    Damn, you beat me to it.

    We can expect further sabre rattling from the Spanish government over Gibraltar if only to take the heat off the Catalonia time-bomb. Some chance there, they seem to have the 'bit between their teeth' on this.

    Jan 28th, 2013 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Seems self-determination is spreading!

    Jan 28th, 2013 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    Yup the Spanish government are crapping themselves.

    If they deny Catalonia a referendum, they make themselves look like bullies and dictators. If they allow the referendum and Catalonia votes to cede, Spain will have lost one of its most lucrative provines, and basically Spain will cease to exist.

    Kosovo was the turning point here, that basically set a precedent AGAINST the right of territorial integrity.

    If Catalonia goes, we may see other countries in similar straights.

    What the Spainish government should do is show the Catalonians that being a part of Spain will be far more beneficial to them than being independent.

    But I have a feeling that Spain will mishandle this, and do a lot of shouting, posturing, constantly mentioning Gibraltar etc..., instead of doing something positive.

    Knowing human nature, the more you tell someone they can't become independent, the more they will want to be independent.

    Jan 28th, 2013 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “”“is now as watertight as an Argentinian destroyer.”“”

    hehe

    Jan 28th, 2013 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Well mr Mariano Rajoy,
    It’s all backfiring on you,
    And serves ya right,
    Now leave Gibraltar along
    Before you eventually lose the rest of Spain.
    Fool.
    .
    Hope you Argies are watching this fool,
    You’ll be next,

    Jan 28th, 2013 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    You beat me to it, briton.
    Hope the idea catches on in Argentina. lol

    Jan 28th, 2013 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    thanks,
    .........................
    fortress falklands,
    i made an error,
    but cant say soory untill someone else posts.
    mmmmmm

    Jan 28th, 2013 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    Catalonia will not be leaving Spain in a hurry. Madrid is nowhere near as grown up as London. Out of Spain also means out of the EU and a trade boycott by Spain as well (and that is Catalonia's biggest trading partner).

    Don't get me wrong, I would love Catalonia tell Madrid where to go, but I just can't see it happening.

    Jan 29th, 2013 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ljordao

    I wonder if Marcelo Kohen, the pseudoscholar who is blind to the depravity of his famous but bizarre interpretation of the principle of territorial integrity, is chewing his fingernails. He is still sore from his Kosovo fiasco, and Catalonia's independence might turn out to be a big landmark in the emergence of the legal right of self-determination. (The natural right has always existed.)

    Jan 29th, 2013 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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