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UN narcotics board says Uruguay’s marijuana bill is contrary to international treaties
A United Nations narcotics body on Thursday expressed alarm about a bill passed by Uruguay’s Lower House that would legalize marijuana. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesYes, it will divert profits from dealers. No, it won't “divert users from harder drugs”.
Aug 02nd, 2013 - 03:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0(1) Heisenbergcontext
Aug 02nd, 2013 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Allow me to differ...
This law will certainly...:
1) Divert profits from the dealers...
2) Keep youngsters away from the dealers...
3) Keep most youngsters away from the pushers...
4) Keep lots of youngsters away from the “addictive” correctional system….
4) Give back some sorely needed legitimacy to the necessary control of hard drugs….
What's the alternative mate?
Any high school kid with an Internet connection is already able to synthesize some real heavy shit, dude...
Let's keep it soft...
Let it be natural...
Let's make it legal...
@2 To the Bitter and twisted Old Twat of Chew Butt
Aug 02nd, 2013 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see that you 'think' the drug dealers are going to give up!
Sorry! But that is very unlikely to happen. By the time the government have produced the plant, stripped it and everything else they need to do for sale, sent it across the country, TAXED it, etc, it will be easy for the dealers to undercut the price.
Plus, unfortunately, youngsters get an additional ‘kick’ out of doing something illegal and will just migrate to another drug, what it will be is anybody’s guess.
Plus it looks like Pepe and the rest of the commies have overlooked the UN narcotics agreement that Uruguay signed up to. A bit like The Dark Country: shambles at the planning (where they should have realised the UN situation), shambles in the production (more cost), taxing it (additional cost) and I would be amazed if the plant itself was as good as the illegal suppliers who have been growing weed for years.
FUBAR!
No doubt Twinky is already dealing. Twinky doesn't believe in honesty, truth or law. Actually, Twinky is a useless piece of shit. How I wish I could shove a bayonet in Twinky's guts and then rip his heart out. Trouble is that Twinky is a faggot coward. Must be amazing to be bright yellow all over. And constantly shitting yourself. Bet you enjoy that. Argies and shit go together!
Aug 02nd, 2013 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2 Think:
Aug 03rd, 2013 - 02:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry, I'm going to be a bore on this subject.
1.) Agreed.
2.) Maybe. It depends on whether someone who wants to smoke dope is willing to have his/her name on a government register - especially if there are alternatives.
3.) What pushers? How do you think most drug users get their first taste? Their mate's, their boyfriend/girlfriend, their older siblings, that chick/bloke at the nightclub/party who gave them their first eccy. Their parents. Drug dealers don't need to advertise. People who have a shared interest in getting wasted always find each other. It's one one of the natural laws of the universe. And most drug dealers become their own best customers.
4). Please elaborate.
5.) Their are no 'hard' or 'soft' drugs in my ( admittedly minority ) opinion. Any drug that facilitates addiction can be a problem and will eventually have consequences for the addict and everyone in their life. I have no opinion on whether decriminalisation for any illegal drug is a good thing or not. I do know that no law on earth has ever stopped an addict from wanting to get out of it and being willing to do whatever it takes to acquire the means neccessary to get them there.
@3 Chris R:
The Uruguayan govt. will have no problem producing pot that will be both cheaper and at least as strong as the grower's product. It's easy enough to do. They'll easily be able to measure the THC levels for comparison and I've no doubt they'll confiscate as much of the illegal hydro gear as they can. Cannabis is just a weed that's incredibly easy to grow - it grows wild in all kinds of places throughout the world ( including Siberia! ) - even the hydro gear. And it will probably be healthier too - I'm sure they'll do a better job of flushing all the chemicals they use for hydro weed than some of the illegal growers do.
@4 Conqueror:
Do you really believe cowardice is sole preserve of homosexuals?
(5) Heisenbergcontext
Aug 03rd, 2013 - 05:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are not a “bore”......, you just happen to share and accept the arguments of a 100 years old, puritan American sponsored, failed international drug policy.......
1) We are in agreement......
2) The users “Government Registry” should be just a temporary phase..... Weed should be sold as freely (or controlled) as the other two, much more dangerous, legal drugs... Tobacco and alcohol.......
3) What pushers, you ask.....? Those selling to the mate's, boyfriend/girlfriend, older siblings, that chick/bloke at the nightclub/party introducing the Noobs to their first eccy......
4) Most occasional users become heavy addicts when thrown into the so called ”Correctional System”. Do you really need me to elaborate on this......?
5) There certainly are 'Hard' and 'Soft' drugs in my humble opinion….. Any drug that creates addiction is a “problem” and does have consequences for the addict and everyone around him….. I am convinced however that the decriminalization of weed is a positive development.
In short....: I'm of the opinion (as you say you are) that no law on Earth will ever stop an addict from getting what he needs and do whatever it takes to get it......
So, why make the problem bigger by criminalizing human behavior?
@7 Think:
Aug 03rd, 2013 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0I can guarantee you that my opinions on this subject are not matched by any government in history!
2.) I stand by my original reply, and add: 40g isn't going to last a month for a serious pothead. Also, I don't think the fella's who decided that six plants would be a good number realize just how much dope ONE single plant can produce. A lot of that dope is going to find it's way over several borders.
3.) And how does this policy intervene between the most intimate and powerful influences in a potential addicts life?
4). Not in my country, at least. The chances of an 'occasional user ' ending up in the Big House for simple possession are negligable. User's who do end up with jail time are invariably there for stuff like armed robbery. By this time they'll have been through the justice system for years. Nor does incarceration cause addiction - although it doesn't help it either.
5.) Drugs don't create addiction. The hardest part of breaking active addiction isn't the physical withdrawal, it's the mental obsession, which leads to compulsion. From a social point of view you may be right - I just see it as yet another way to try and control addiction. Methadone is another.
When I say I have no opinion on decriminalisation, I simply mean that from the perspective of a drug addict and their willingness to stop it matters not. The only thing that can convince an addict to stop is their ability to recognize the damage they've done to themselves. Addicts have a much higher threshold for self-inflicted pain than non-addicts.
(7) Heisenbergcontext
Aug 03rd, 2013 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0I “Think” I have made my opinion about the legalization of weed quite clear.......
Nothing revolutionary, just some common sense, in my humble opinion...
On the other hand, you say that your opinions on this matter are “not matched by any government in history” ?!?
I would certainly be interested in hearing some of those opinions (and sugestions) from the far west.....
Regards
El Think, Patagonia, Argentina.
quite clear
I can guarantee you that my opinions on this subject are not matched by any government in history!
@9 Think:
Aug 03rd, 2013 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Whilst it hurts my ego to say so, I must decline the invitation. I don't think the world really needs to hear anymore of my rantings on the subject. Besides, I've misplaced my damn bong. Dammit....
(9) Heisenbergcontext
Aug 03rd, 2013 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you trying to tell me that you only got one bong?
That's sick ;-)
@10 Think:
Aug 03rd, 2013 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know, I'm hopeless. When the Zombie Apocalypse inevitably arrives I'll be truly fucked.
(11) Heisenbergcontext
Aug 04th, 2013 - 05:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0I like true Anglo humour....
Nowadays only found in odd places like the Australian, Rhodesian or Patagonian bush...
Humourless Zombies seem to have taken over the once civilized World ;-)
@12 Think:
Aug 04th, 2013 - 07:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for the compliment. I seriously doubt, though, that any one's country has a superior sense of humor to any other's. The French love Jerry Lewis - need one say more?
13 Heisenbergcontext
Aug 04th, 2013 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0When did anyone imply that any one's country has a superior sense of humor to any other's?
I just said that I like true Anglo humour.....
@14 Think:
Aug 04th, 2013 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0As a connoisseur of Regional humor then, I can only suggest a visit to Uruguay in about oh... 14 weeks.
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