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Argentina prepares to celebrate worldwide Malbec Day on 17 April
Next 17 April is “World Malbec Day” and for the fourth running year Argentina Wines will be promoting the image of the varietal in over sixty events in 55 different cities in 44 countries. This year the event will be supported by the pleasure of good music with the purpose of attracting young consumers, 25 to 35 year old. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesNot much else to celebrate this year.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Unless you enjoy lynchings and inflation.
Still, good luck with it all. I can still get a decent bottle of Malbec for less than £10 in London. Not bad, but you can get really quality Chilean wines for about £8.00
How is this news going down with your isolationist theories Tobi?
btw. Any bottle of wine in Venezuela costs at least $30, even for the kind of vinegar we wouldn't put on our chips in UK. Remember, one month minimum wage is $60.
Five hours queuing in Venezuela now. My family had to go as a group effort this weekend so they could have toilet or food breaks. Just to get basics!
This is your future Argentina!
I'm still boycotting Argie products so wining awards still won't affect what goes in my shopping basket.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Most awards are fixed anyway. They can only ever be a guide line as to what might be good in the region.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2, likewise, I refuse to buy anything Argentinean.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 02:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Malbec is $8 - $18 here. Makes no difference what the price is, the $8 bottle is no better than the $18. None of it is comparable to a $10- $12 bottle of Chilean.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 02:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm on a boycott of Argentine products also.
Ouch ouch ouch... Yankebooy, wrong, again!! (”Wineries are closing all over Mendoza and exports are dropping 30% -- Yankeeboy)
Apr 16th, 2014 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Malbec really has experienced a meteoric rise in popularity. A decade ago, Malbec remained relatively unknown”
http://blogs.theprovince.com/2014/04/08/wine-guy-malbec-merrymaking/
For the first time, the Union des Enologists de France (French Winemaker's Association) has awarded the coveted “Trophee Vinalies Internationale” for “Best Dry Red” to an Argentine wine – Bodega Valentin Bianchi's Famiglia Bianchi Malbec 2012. This wine, from one of the oldest family-owned wineries in the country, had the highest score of over 3,500 wines tasted from 41 countries The blind tastings were conducted by 150 members of an international judging panel.
It is especially noteworthy that this competition, held in the country still regarded as the “epicenter” of wine scholarship and appreciation, has elevated this rich, robust and perfectly balanced Malbec to a “world class” level. It is reminiscent of the legendary “Judgement of Paris” in 1976, when some then relatively unknown California Cabernets scored higher than their French counterparts by a largely French judging panel during a blind tasting“
http://blogs.theprovince.com/2014/04/08/wine-guy-malbec-merrymaking/
”Hooke likened Argentine Malbec’s newfound status as a global superstar of the wine world to that of Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc or Napa Valley Cabernet out of the US.
“It’s quite extraordinary that it has achieved its notoriety, fame and success so quickly,” he said.“
http://blogs.theprovince.com/2014/04/08/wine-guy-malbec-merrymaking/
”Argentine wine exports have been increasing at a rate of 23% annually between 2002 and 2011.”
http://blogs.theprovince.com/2014/04/08/wine-guy-malbec-merrymaking/
Yankeeboy, proven a FOOL, once and for all.
Exactly as I said.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 04:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your Province blog described 3 locally available Malbecs as acceptable “table” wine, good with food.
The price ranged from $11.99 Cdn to $19.99 Cdn., but the wines were about the same quality - from B- to B+.
Overall, medium quality, nothing spectacular, reasonable quality for the price.
There are many very good, well- rated Syrahs, Merlots, Cab- Merlots, and Pinots in the middle of the Malbec price range, that are better.
I guess they really feel they need to promote the Malbec, buyers have many other alternatives.
I have been boycotting Argie goods for quite some time now, got my family all at it
Apr 16th, 2014 - 06:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0I prefer New Zealand wines and refuse to buy anything argentine.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not on my list - Chile, Oz or New Zealand for me if we are talking New World
Apr 16th, 2014 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0#6 Titti boi tobi....the ultimate spokesthing for mendozan wine.....and yet he didn't even know what Fest300 was. Perhaps too young ......yet more likely he does not reside there or anywhere near there.......like johnathan “stevie” stevens.............just an angry Anglo-European
Apr 16th, 2014 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You couldn't get me to drink argie whine if you paid me. I'm also on an argie boycott. For those with experience, is it any good as a paintstripper?
Apr 16th, 2014 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More baking soda for the acid-laden blood of Troy Tempest
Apr 16th, 2014 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Starbucks will expand its evening alcohol and light bites menu, which includes bacon-wrapped dates and Malbec wine, to thousands of stores, Chief Operating Officer Troy Alstead said in a phone interview. The rollout, which can help boost sales, will take several years, he said.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-19/starbucks-says-mobile-payments-gaining.html
Writhe Troy, writhe hahaha. I can feel your twisting motions from here.
That was one of the most evidently jaundiced, bitter, self-denying posts I have seen. It was wonderful to read several times, the complete impotence at being unable to pan something Argentine as “worthless” like you love doing, due to the overwhelming evidence to the contrary from multiple serious ANGLO sources: Marketwatch, Bloomberg, Canadian and Australian outlets, even this website (haven't even posted non anglo sources yet). hahahaha
Boycotts are something that to me are totally legitimate, so if the posters above thought that would irritate me, well, they have little understanding
I wish I could boycott British products as well, but sadly there are none I can think of to make the conscious decision.
Personally I liked the wines about 10 year ago. Over the last 8 years there has been a tendency for huge over extraction of tannins which results in a lack of balance, backbone and fruit to the wine. This is mainly a Michel Rolland trait and an unfortunate one IMHO. I think that Argentina is one of the only countries to use strong pumps in their vats to pump the skins around and extract the tannins (which, at a high altitude, are considerable). Speaking to the Bodegas they mentioned that this is something they now have to do to get the wine out of the bodega asap and into the marketplace for sale. They would prefer to not to have to use pumps but the time needed in vat means that the production of wine would be very difficult to impossible. Interesting how economic policy has an impact on the taste of wine...
Apr 16th, 2014 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wrong. There's no “economic policy” towards wine. The Kirchners have never imposed any restrictions on it; no need to get it out the door. It's just what the market wants, nothing to do with 'argentine economic policy“ which you guys descry even on your pillow . The market wants bold fruit and residual sugar.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Most wineries starting at the level of Norton Reserve, Rutini standard, Chakana, and mid-level Pascual Toso do not try to fructify the wine. That is why higher end Australian Syrah struggles, people that buy Syrah seek heavy fruit and sugar. They try a well made sample, they do not like it and pan it for being ridiculously expensive with ”less flavor“. And people that like high end most likely will want a Bordeaux, Brunello, Gran Reserva, etc. Malbec in fact has done a better job at breaking the ”value“ barrier than Australian Syrah, though by no means even close to approaching the high end Euro wines in demand.
Thus people like Troy Tempest who like wines at that lower-mid price range find ”Syrah“ from OZ, the lower end cabernets from California, and Merlots ”better“. He likes fruit, nothing else on his wine. Most people from this segment detest European and French wine in particular, as supposedly overpriced ,”dry, and tasting of mud“. This trend is classic and has been known for years.
In fact it is a badly kept rumor that those ”value” Pinot Noirs that people love are in fact not Pinot Noir at all. Likely either a clone, or Pinot Noir mixed with another fruit. Pinot Noir is pricy, and those value entries from the USA, Italy and Vin de Pays are way too fruity and heavy (and what a coincidence they please the market segment), so the question is what is going on there.
Finally, extracting the tannins is done in the low levels because people invariably pair Malbec with meat, and the entry levels sill need to clean protein. Unlike other wines that at the low end have very little tannin like watery California or European entries. Malbec must have tannin.
I didn't say there was a policy towards wine. I pointed out how general policy impacts upon it. From the moment you pick the grapes, inflation is eroding the value of your wine as a final product. As such, the quicker you can get it out of the door and sold the better. These aren't my words but those of the owners of the various bodegas I visit.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also when you say, “Malbec must have tannin”, I think you'll find that Malbec will always have tannin due to the altitude and the grape that it is. The increased extraction is just to speed up the process so that they can get it out of the door and the money in.
“Finally, extracting the tannins is done in the low levels because people invariably pair Malbec with meat, and the entry levels sill need to clean protein”
I generally don't drink at large amount of wine at the kind of level you are talking about, I was referring to the 350 peso per bottle mark such as Angelica Zapata (amongst others). Tannins are still extracted to a considerable degree and seems to be a growing fad, bit of a shame.
“the market wants bold fruit” but the extraction of tannin in this way masks the fruit. Tannin and fruit aren't the same thing...
“people that buy Syrah seek heavy fruit and sugar” no they don't. they don't want sugar.
Maybe what I'm saying won't resonate with you as you're aren't used to drinking Argentinean wines from all ends of the spectrum. I think that is the only way to see the change in character in the production of Malbec.
Anyway, I’ll obviously have to bow to your supreme knowledge in this area (however, shaky it seems) as, between the two of us, I’m obviously not the one who attends tastings and spends thousands of pounds on wine each year….
I'll stick with my homebrew-Elderberry Wine just as good as Malbec, and it's cheap.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 015 Nostrils
Apr 16th, 2014 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought you were gone...
You left the other thread in a big sulk saying we were “not worth talking to.”
Obviously, YOU value us highly, becuz despite the abuse you bring upon yourself, you can't resist joining a thread to insult us or pontificate about how wonderful your life is, in Argentina.
As if that isn't funny enough, here you are preaching to us about your “superior Malbecs” and the “godless Pinot drinking public”.
I'm sure you have just read this stuff somewhere and are passing it along as gospel, without any real knowledge.
I am equally certain that you have never tasted the wines we are consuming here, especially the NZ, Aussie, and NA products.
You have no idea how they compare.
Canada taxes their wines at a very high rate and therefore anything we buy is expensive - 2 or 3 times what we would pay in the US or EU for the same product.
When I compare $12 Cdn Malbec to other wines in the same price category in Canada, they are really $5 to$7 bottles of wine in the US. I know, that's where I buy it.
Malbec became very popular here because it was introduced at a very very low price point - Fuzion - $7 a bottle in Canada, for an
“Ok ” table wine, good with steak - not very good on its own, most people only serve it with food.
Many restaurants have now adopted Malbec as it is the cheapest wine on their menu and it might entice those who previously thought wine was a “pricey extravagance” at a restaurant, might now order something.
Discerning, experienced wine- lovers would just ignore it.
At the government stores, Malbec rose quickly to $10 and higher as it sold well.
Like me, my friends enjoy something that tastes more refined from Chile or Spain, for the same money.
I'm not sure if the stores felt they could make more money by raising the price, as it was originally the cheapest thing on the shelf.
If it is not local price- gouging, I am confused that the price has gone up as your Peso has plummeted - perhaps its Argentina.
Isn't it interesting that the only person NOT worried about the wine industry in Mendoza is TTT. Speak to any number of people that actually live there and work in the industry and they express real concerns.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The last time I was in Mendoza they explained how they are going back to basics in wine production. Not to improve the quality by hand picking etc. but because many wineries cannot keep the machinery working. Just saying' what I heard.
It is great that at last one of their wines has picked up a gold at the Trophee Vinalies Internationale - a well over due honour.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is also great that Argentina is celebrating its Malbec at various venues around the world. This attitude is a world apart from the small minded isolationism that you often hear proffered on this forum and should help boost the poor export performance.
so funny to read comment about wine here.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what can a bunch of kelpers / british wannabes know?
nothing for sure.
not only mendoza is the biggest wine zone of latin america but also where the best wines are produced in the americas.
not to mention salta, rio negro and san juan also with excellent quality.
there are just 3 (three) countries that outweigh argentina in wine quality / quantity: france, spain and italy.
the rest cannot even compete
What can a bunch of British know about wine. We can afford to buy and drink the quality wines for a start.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Excuse me #21 but you seem to suffer from the same ignorance as a number of posters here. I personally enjoy Argentine Malbecs, unfortunately they are not that readily available in Chile. As far as your comment: ”...there are just 3 (three) countries that outweigh argentina in wine quality / quantity: france, spain and italy.” I would suggest you need to open up your closed mind and discover not only the fine wines of those countries, but also Chile, Austrailia, New Zealand, South Africa, the United States, and Portugal. I'll put up a mid-range Chilean red against any country in a blind tasting.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 023
Apr 16th, 2014 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0again, there are just 3 countries that outweigh argentina producing premium wines:
france, spain and italy.
either you cannot understand well or you are a complete ignorant.
try to get informed before posting bullsh*t
24 Pablo niño
Apr 17th, 2014 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Premium” wines ????
Or just sheer volume of “cheap red”?
Malbec is good value here, but only for the cheapest ones.
Did you notice Nostril's link?
The price ranged from $12-$20 and they all rated pretty much the same, a “medium” quality wine. The most expensive was not rated the highest, either.
Nobody in North America thinks of Argentina when they think of “premium” wines.
In fact, I can't remember any Premium Argentine wine in our stores.
Tuscans are and French wines are top notch and California produces excellent
wines too.
Chilean wines we get here, never disappoint, and Aussie and NZ are consistently good.
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Apr 17th, 2014 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Nobody in North America thinks of Argentina when they think of “premium” wines.”
funny:
”Nowadays, the hottest wine in this country (U.S.) is Argentinean Malbec. “
”Argentine Malbec is about seven years into a golden run during which exports to the United States have grown exponentially year after year”
http://www.winemag.com/February-2010/Top-10-Argentine-Malbecs-of-the-Past-Year/
anyway, in what part of northamerica do you live?
the flakland islands?
26 Pablo Cavity
Apr 17th, 2014 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Read my posts again.
People are buying it because IT IS CHEAP, not because it's a “premium” wine.
Sorry if that hurts your pride.
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Apr 17th, 2014 - 01:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0read the link you dumbass
or search for another premium wines like achaval ferrer, luigi bosca, viña cobos, etc.
again, what can an islander know about premium wines?
the only thing you have ever tasted is vinegar made in england.
”Bodega Catena Zapata 2005 Argentino (Mendoza); $123. One of the finest top end Malbecs on the market today. There’s raisin, mineral, licorice, blackberry and more. The mouth is both huge and shows finesse. And the mile-long finish of coffee, mocha and molten black fruit is awesome. Drink now through 2013.“
”96 Bodega Catena Zapata 2005 Nicasia Vineyard (Mendoza); $123. Baked pastry, blueberry, cola and coffee aromas rest in front of a minerally, terroir-packed palate of soft black fruit, chocolate, fine herbs and other touches. The mouthfeel is fabulous and the finish of Swiss chocolate and integrated spice is smooth as silk. Drink now through 2011.”
28 Pabl O' Cavity
Apr 17th, 2014 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pablo,
At $123, when you say “the mouthfeel is fabulous”, you better mean I'm getting a blowjob with that Malbec!!
Who wrote that stuff? Do you even understand it.
There are plenty of competitors and better wines, in that price range.
That's NOT the Malbec that sells in volume :-)
I don't think they even import any of that here - too much good stuff from Napa or Tuscany.
That leaves all the more for you, though!
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Apr 17th, 2014 - 02:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0troy -knows nothing- tempest
read the link.
it is an american site about...wines.
but you think you know more than them about it.
you lot are funny.
talking with you islanders about wines is like talking about football, polo or beautiful women.
what can you know??? LOL
30 Pablum niño
Apr 17th, 2014 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry, Pabs
nobody here in Canada mentions Argentina when they talk about Premium wines.
The US has 300m people and many of them have more money than God, so you might sell a few bottles there.
That's not your money- maker though. Flooding the market with “cheap red” is all you have going for you, really.
Chileans, Europeans, and Californians have you beat for quality.
'you lot' That is such a strange expression. I never heard an Argentinean or Chilean use it. Only Paulcedron and Stevie use it.
Apr 17th, 2014 - 02:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am in D C at the moment and just back from having dinner with friends. One is a real wine buff and was telling me about his local wine merchant - an Argentine living in D C - his recent recommendation to him was a Chilean wine. I had to laugh.
PC you are just being silly with your attempt at implying Argentine wine is somehow superior to other wines. Don't you know that the best wine in the world is the one you like? It is all subjective.
troy
Apr 17th, 2014 - 02:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0”That's NOT the Malbec that sells in volume :-)”
of course, you genius.
name a premium wine that is sold in volumes...none?
33 Pabl O' niño
Apr 17th, 2014 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course not, Chico.
You are telling us how you sell vast amounts of Malbec, because it's so superior to others.
I'm telling you it appeals to people because it is good value for a medium wine that comes in at a low price point.
The link says its a “medium quality” wine.
You say people buy it because it is high quality, and list examples and reviews.
I'm telling you not many people buy expensive Malbec, which makes sense, and it is the cheap stuff they buy in quantity - medium quality, only.
You are making your money on high volume, not high quality.
Do you disagree?
Speaking personally, I don't know anyone who shops for expensive Argentine wines - there's too much better selection out there.
Sorry - you'll have to lump it.
“The link says its a “medium quality” wine”
Apr 17th, 2014 - 03:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0you are not very fond to wine magazines or articles, are you?
see that number (96, 94, 85, etc) that appears before the review?
well that is the score, the points obtained after several tastings.
96 out of 100 is not a “medium quality”.
got it?
Pablo...
Apr 17th, 2014 - 04:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0*heaves big sigh*
“96” was the rating for the $123 bottle - for that money, it better be 96.
Here is Nostril's link I have been referring to @6 :
http://blogs.theprovince.com/2014/04/08/wine-guy-malbec-merrymaking/
Well recommended, 3 “medium” rated, low-priced Malbecs, as I posted @ 7 as a comment to Nostrils posted link @ 6.
Really, Pabs, you are so lazy, you don't fully read paragraphs that you cut and paste.
You didn't even read Nostrils link, a Malbec review, though you've been arguing about the quality for several posts.
Do you just ignore what you don't want to know, because it doesn't fit what you want to say???
You must have been terribly confused about the “96”review.
Has the Wine Fest started already, or are you “studying” on your own??
@30
Apr 17th, 2014 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can you tell me though is actually giving the notes. I can then tell you if they are recognised. in generaly, the wine world thinks that the wines from Nroth America are superior. They are a little less “slutty” and a bit more refined. This just comes from having had a little more experience. The Mendozans are making great moves forward but they are still trying to understand the grape, hence the reason why the type, age and length of oak keeps on changing...
troy
Apr 17th, 2014 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0i was starting to appreciate you for 2 reasons;
you are not the typical wanker of this site that wants to nuke 1/2 world, argentina first of all.
you are kind of funny.
now, try not to be so stubborn.
argentinian wines are great for a lot of reasons, one of them is the price.
the other is that they are made under the best french, spanish and italian traditions developed in cuyo, salta and san juan since the early 19th century.
those regions have the same features of the best wine regions of those three countries.
it seems that for you only extremely expensive wines can be considered premium, and that´s ridiculous.
so, read more, learn something and then come back here.
It has to be remembered also that this is a matter of taste, those of us weaned on the aristocratic Pinot of Burgundy will find that Mablec is probably just a little too mauch. I'm not saying that this is bad, it is just taste. Also, when younger, you tend to drink those type of punchy wines and your tastes change oevr the years. This is a classic trend, you spend most of your money from the ages of 30-45 on growth claret and then find your tastes have chaged once you can actually start drinking it and then need to sell it off to buy burgundy.
Apr 17th, 2014 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0@38 - You are right to an extent about the tradition from other countries but I would not sayt hey are always the best. Argentinian wine is made to a bluprint with the idea of creating a wine which is similar in every vintage. This is very much a marketing tool as that “you know what you get with a Malbec” rather than making the wine to suit the vintage (e.g. overextraction of tannins to create a “big” wine at whatever cost to the underlying fruit and backbone). Creating a wine for the vintage takes more time, care, a greater understanding of the grape and, most importantly, the terroir.
“again, there are just 3 countries that outweigh argentina producing premium wines:
Apr 17th, 2014 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0france, spain and italy.”
@paul
Of course Argentina produces some great wine, but your statement is ridiculous.
You should ask yourself why countries like Australia and Chile have a GREATER share of the global market than Argentina and have won more international awards.
The answer is that neither the wine drinkers of the world nor the international experts would agree with your statement.
Well said Condorito. I've had the fortune of sampling some of the truly great icons of the wine world, and frankly, several we're disappointing. On the other hand, there have been many surprises, such as Australia and California that put the French to shame. All the countries mentioned above produce very good wine AND as well produce terrible stuff. Chile included.
Apr 17th, 2014 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dear Paul,
Instead of just reading about wine, I suggest you actually try the stuff and then perhaps you'll be able to intelligently report back here in the future on the subject.
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Apr 17th, 2014 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I've had the fortune of sampling some of the truly great icons of the wine world”
you?
lol
yes, right...LOL
Chile make good wines, but I feel they run the risk of becoming a jack of all trades: ok at many things, great at none. Chile exports every varietal, Argentina does not (certainly no Carmenere, and very little Merlot and Sauvignon Blanc. Chile does export Malbec and the other two plus all remaining major cepages).
Apr 17th, 2014 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ultimately, people love French wine because of the great Pomerols, Margaux, and Burgundies out there. Italian for Barolo and Amarone, USA for some Cabernet varietal, Spain for Ribera and Pago wines, Australia for some really good Shiraz, New Zealand for Malborough.
What do people seek when looking for Chile? Price-quality. That's fine enough, but it is also highly replaceable when the next wine growing region pops up. You can't replace Petrus from Pomerol, Amarone from Valpolicella, a Vega Sicilia Unico, an Opus one, a Douro Port, a Conti-Romane Pinot Noir, a Rheingau Riesling, etc.
I don't feel Chile has made people HAVE to go to them for a particular wine, perhaps with Carmenere some incipient attempts like the Purple Angel. Like South Africa with Pinotage, they have not been very pro-active yet in promoting these varietals that are only found in their countries.
Argentina now has three varietals people can only get from here: Malbec (even though Chile and France do produce some, they are no threat), Torrontes, which is rapidly finding a global niche, and Bonarda, which has a long way to go but already has some export success.
41 Chicureo
Apr 17th, 2014 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Remember, you are talking to a 15 year-old.
WTF does he know about anything, let alone wines!
I've had wines older than him.
Neither Nostrils nor Pablo have any idea the vast selection of global and local fine wines available to us, let alone tasted any of them.
We have so much to choose from - why settle for Malbec??
Furthermore, why go out of our way to buy their borderline dubious products when our local wines and those of our friendly trading partners are both affordable and enjoyable, with great variety?
Nostrils, besides showing off (LOL !) is trying along with Pablo, to save face.
Funny that they are offended and angry that we won't buy from them. At the same time, they say they“ don't need us ” and want nothing to do with reciprocal trade agreements.
Why buy from a petulant child when we can deal with friendly adults?
The success of their wine industry, despite some “halo” product examples, is based on price , NOT quality.
Pablo, your desperate attempt to confuse the facts in your “96” post was sheer desperation.
I don't care what you think of me, I'm not going to recant my honest arguments and opinions to make you like me. Sorry, Chico.
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Apr 17th, 2014 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ ”our“ local wines?”
and which are your local wines?
do you produce any wine in the falklands?
or it was in canada?
so premium wine from the falklands...LOL
@43vToby
Apr 17th, 2014 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I don't feel Chile has made people HAVE to go to them for a particular wine, ”
Right, so where do you suggest they go for a Carmenere?
You are too insular to know that what Argentina is doing now with promoting Malbec is what Chile did more than a decade ago with Carmenere - create an emblematic national wine.
Don't worry about how we market our wines, I can assure you we are quite smart enough to survive. We have 8% of the global market in volume terms and 6% in value terms. Compare that to Argentina's 4% and 2% respectively. In other words our smaller wine industry brings in 3 times the earnings as Argentina does and earns more per litre.
Global wine production is in decline while consumption is growing fast in Asian markets. China is growing at 20% a year and we are well ahead of the game there. We have 35% of the $25 - $50 / bottle niche.
Don't worry about “Jack”, he's just fine.
“Argentina sweeps the board at Decanter World Wine Awards
Apr 17th, 2014 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has triumphed at the Decanter World Wine Awards, winning the most International Trophies of any single country in the history of the competition.”
while the imbeciles here try to belittle argentine wines, argentinian cellars are tired of winning international prizes
www.decanter.com/news/wine-news/529055/argentina-sweeps-the-board-at-decanter-world-wine-awards#oLXsDJFkDuO8HthF.99
@paul
Apr 17th, 2014 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I said above, all these international awards have been won before and more frequently by other new world producers. The Decanter award that you quote, is out of context. It refers specifically to the year 2011 at that particular wine ceremony. Have a look at other years for a more balanced view.
Argentina produces some great wine and you are rightly proud of that fact, but you must also recognise that it has one of the lowest average value per litre in the new world. Chile is slightly better than Argentina in this respect but we manage to export twice as much. Australia and NZ are more successful in value terms.
47 paulcedron
Apr 17th, 2014 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh Dear Lord, whilst the regional governments of Mendoza and San Juan are currently buying up grape concentrate in order to maintain the falling prices, you are inflated with pride because the British (Decanter) recognise our wines.
They stole our islands and you humbly ask them for recognition of our wines!
How pathetically subservient.
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Apr 17th, 2014 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nostrils !!!
Stop fighting with Pablo!
It's his turn to play on the swing.
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Apr 17th, 2014 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“when our local wines and ....blablabla....?”
so which are YOUR local wines?
those from the sunny, dry valleys of the falklands, lol?
the traditional wines of canada, lol?
or the splendid wines from liverpool and manchester, lol?
niño
Apr 17th, 2014 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0stop crying please.
I have not said anything untrue about your wines, but you whines... oh, my Gawd!!!
In fact, I even defended you against bully,
Nostrils.
...and I've already indulged you far to much.
If you wish to sulk, that's fine. You are not getting what want.
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Apr 18th, 2014 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0“They stole our islands and you humbly ask them for recognition of our wines! ”
and how do you get to the conclusion that i am asking them blablabla, you imbecile?
it is a thread about argentinian wines
what the fuck do you want to talk about then, you halfwit?
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you are not answering the question, grandpa.
you don´t even remember if you are a kelper, canadian or english...
that happens when you lie too much
niño
Apr 18th, 2014 - 01:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0you don't comprehend or retain what you read, and you are a waste of time.
grandpa troy
Apr 18th, 2014 - 01:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0next time try to take the pills for memory.
and do not lie so much
and do not forget the diapers
you are growing old badly
Australian Brown Brother's Moscato.(white wine)
Apr 18th, 2014 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Excellent, you can taste the passionfruit.
Hi, Isolde;
Apr 19th, 2014 - 04:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Enjoying a local “Big Red”, Mission Hill, Oculus '07.
Sounds like both are very enjoyable alternatives to Malbec.
let's celebrate world Malbec day. where all the wineries get together and screw the small producers even more on the price per Kg (less now than in 2011). Where even if you have people wanting to import it the wineries get together to stop you doing it! Because no one makes a decent bottle of Malbec other than them!!
Apr 20th, 2014 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A proud product of Argentina, promoting the national identity.
Apr 21st, 2014 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0I suggest you put CFK's picture on the label for patriots like Pablo niño
Hello Troy,
Apr 21st, 2014 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0ls that Canadian wine?
Never tried it.
ls your summer hot enough for grapes or do you have greenhouses?
Brown Bros Moscato does not give me a hangover.
Might be a bit sweet for some people's taste.
IMHO its a lot better than German white wine, like Black Tower or Blue Nun for example.
l suppose its all a matter of taste, but l like Australian wines.
Hi Isolde,
Apr 21st, 2014 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I too enjoy the Australian wines. We see a lot of it here, particularly the Shiraz and the Rieslings like Hardy's which is great with Spicy foods.
Having an Australian connection in the family now, we are trying more Aussie wines.
Contrary to the usual impression of Canada, we have a varied climate and bountiful seasonal farming, as well as some “hot house ” vegetable production.
Three hours inland from the West Coast we have a very good wine region now. It gets very hot there in the summer. Some of it would be described as semi-arid.
We've developed some very good reds,similar to the Californian wines, directly South.
Taste is subjective. Drink what you like. With our prices here, we can't afford to be wine snobs, but we get a huge variety of wines from all over, so there is lots to try and compare.
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Apr 21st, 2014 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Contrary to the usual impression of Canada, we have a varied climate and bountiful seasonal farming,”
what?
lol
except british columbia, the rest of canada is like a frozen wasteland
Someone is annoyed because we didn't say that Argentine wines are the best.
Apr 21st, 2014 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0boo-hoo, paullie boy.
Troy,
l read that up in the Yukon, the farmers can harvest 2 summer crops because of the long daylight hours.
l saw a picture of the huge pumpkins that they grow.
What do they do in the winter, go on holiday to the southern hemisphere(our summer)?
isolda
Apr 21st, 2014 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0in the winter all they can do is trying that their fingers and toes don't get frozen.
63Isolde
Apr 22nd, 2014 - 01:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0”l read that up in the Yukon, the farmers can harvest 2 summer crops because of the long daylight hours.
l saw a picture of the huge pumpkins that they grow.
What do they do in the winter, go on holiday to the southern hemisphere(our summer)?”
Isolde,
Just one of those pumpkins would feed a family of four for a year, in a BA Villa Miserables !!
Those farmers make enough money in the double growing season to spend what would be their winter in Argentina, playing polo with their large stables of ponies, and enjoying their leisure time, while Argentine teenage Trolls muck out the stalls.
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