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Falklands' British 'colonial occupation' condemned by Parlasur
The Mercosur parliament, Parlasur, in a special Monday session held in Montevideo, rejected British 'control' over the Falklands/Malvinas Islands and described the situation as a colonial conflict of 'global' proportion which threatens the region. Read full article
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Nov 11th, 2014 - 04:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0My God in heaven.....it's like playschool...booing a letter they don't like and lying to each other to show off how stupid they are.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 06:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0usurption: How many Argentines were “evicted”, what was the loudest any of the “evicted” had been on the islands?
Inheritance: How many of the Spaniards on the islands between 1767 and 1811 became Argentine?
Geography: Why aren't all island groups 300 miles of the coast part of the country nearest to them?
Colonialism: why is Patagonia part of Argentina, but it wasn't in 1833?
Hypocrisy....what these guys are full off....
Shit...what Hector Timmerman speaks
Just laughed my bollocks off, where oh where do these numbnuts think they are? 1833?
Nov 11th, 2014 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just grow a pair Argentina your economy is about to explode, do something positive with your own country.
This mock “parliament” sounds more like a pantomime set up to amuse us all with all its incongruities. Have they all lost their marbles?
Nov 11th, 2014 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Having read the letter to Parlasur by Gavin Short, I have to say it was balanced and to the point, if you are going to talk about a group or country the most proper course of action is to invite a member of said group or country to speak on the topic at hand. But no, these are deadbeats who wouldn't know diplomacy if it jumped up and bit them on the arse. I feel so sorry for NORMAL Argentinians but you make your bed you must lie on it.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe the FIG should have a meeting and declare Latin America a threat to Amerindians and refuse to recognize of the elected governments of Latin American countries because of the participation of implanted peoples in the democratic process.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe a look in the mirror might make these people see how foolish they are.
So, not only did Parlasur accept the undisputable lies of Argentina as gospel, they refused to have the legitimate inhabitants of the Falklands have their say.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cowards.
“UK's negative to negotiate the Islands sovereignty was defined as an “anachronistic” colonial position, unjustified under any consideration, aggravated by the 'militarization' of the Islands and the 'illegitimate' exploitation of fisheries and hydrocarbons resources according to the declaration approved unanimously.”
First, Argentina is the one refusing fair negotiations. That's not disputable - they walked out of negotiations including the Islanders, and this report describes their cowardly attempt to deny the Islanders their right to have their say.
Britain has rightly held sovereignty over the Falklands since before Argentina's usurpation attempt in 1833. The so-called “militarization” of the Islands is Britain's measures to defend the legitimate inhabitants after Argentina's second usurpation attempt in 1982.
As for “illegitimate” exploitation of the natural resources - this is done, again with the blessings of the legitimate inhabitants of the Falklands. Such measures therefore *cannot* be truthfully described as illegitimate.
The truth is that this is yet another attempt by Argentina to gain support in their quest to usurp the Falkland Islands. If they had a legitimate claim, they wouldn't be moving at every chance to deny the legitimate inhabitants their say. That Argentina does take such craven actions shows the extent of their wrongdoing.
It's time they either take Britain to the ICJ, or agree to stop lying and drop their illegitimate claim, quite literally “for good”.
There's no other fair alternative.
How does it go ?
Nov 11th, 2014 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ The wheels on the bus go round and round ”
BORING TIMERMAN!!!!
Nov 11th, 2014 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0A bunch of delusional farts, trying to justify their salaries, by sucking each other off.
Yawn.....
Poor old Tinpotman, he looks so bored trotting out the same rubbish as before with little serious effect. Still keeps him in a job, wouldn't want to rock the boat as he would have the tax people investigating his finances. I give up on this so called government, it was much better when Galtieri was in charge. Speaking as a foreigner working there.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Zzzz, they pass these resolutions more often than I pass wind, to the same effect.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0The cretinous Kitcheners are the driving force with the continuing vitriol against the Falklands.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Boss-Eye started it and TMBOA is only too happy to divert however many people she can from their self-inflicted woes using the Islanders as 'the enemy'. The whole country needs a double enema to clear its brains out.
As for booing a letter! FFS!
‘..and now they have there the biggest military base in the world south of the 50th parallel’ what a f*ck wit, the only mainland south of the 50th is Chile and Argentina (stretching about 400m south), then you hit Antartica, there are a few islands off New Zealand, Adams and Auckland Islands. It is probably one of only few Military bases south of the 50th Parallel (don’t know if we can count the Argentine bases as their military if so run down). Typical Argentine boll*cks, twist the truth to suit your argument. And tell me again Mr Tinpotman, why do the islanders need a base there? Why do they feel they need protection?
Nov 11th, 2014 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0‘To that respect Uruguay's minister Almagro pointed out to the 'many documents and resolutions' which indicate that self determination is only applicable to subjugated peoples’ really, where does it say that? Just his opinion, based on his false interpretation of UN resolutions. If he did indeed use the word ‘Indicate’ then this further proves that they are using their interpretation of the resolution text. Like the word ‘Appears’ which is always good to use when being asked if something is correct, ‘Yes it appears to be in the right position…’ an ambiguous word that leaves a lot of wriggle room. Why not use the word ‘state’ or ‘prove’ instead of ‘indicate’, or would that mean they would have to actually provide evidence to back up their claim. The UN has repeatedly said all NSGT are entitled to self determination, no exceptions or omissions were made. It is only the C24 that has ever made a reference to the Falklands being a special and peculiar case.
Can't blame the others it shuts argentina up and they can all pretend to agree safe in the knowledge the UK wont throw a hissy fit about it.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0argentina suffers from island envy chile has an island as does brazil even ecudaror has an island argentina has no islands waa waa waa :)
The only anachronisms here are Argentina's 19th century mentality, its 1930' political culture, and the peculiar racist idea that South America and the South Atlantic are the unique preserve of Italo-Iberian colonial immigrants.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0the whole world condemns the colonial occupation of britain, not only in malvinas but in all their colonies.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0nothing new i guess.
#15 your forgetting the Anglos, Arabs, Jews, Germans , Eastern Europeans etc who also make up the Argentinian population.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0USE OF INVERTED COMMAS VERY TELLING! Mercopress, accept your own headquarters' venue commitment!
Nov 11th, 2014 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0UK's negative to negotiate the Islands sovereignty was defined as an “anachronistic” colonial position, unjustified under any consideration, aggravated by the 'militarization' of the Islands and the 'illegitimate' exploitation of fisheries and hydrocarbons resources according to the declaration approved unanimously.
Argentina's legitimate case is as follows:
Nov 11th, 2014 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0(Yes, that is it; just an empty space)
“”“”the whole world condemns the colonial occupation of britain, not only in malvinas but in all their colonies.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0nothing new i guess.“”“”
go to the ICJ then... you cant lose given that “the whole world” knows you're right.
Unless, that is, you're not...
Bwahahahahahah a!
Nov 11th, 2014 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0I laughed so much through out this article. These overblown and hysterical speeches.
I particularly enjoyed the one about how the Falklands are to blame for Latin America not being able to fully develop.
Wow! Such is the power of a few thousand people far out in the South Atlantic that they can hold back the progress of millions and millions of continentals ?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Oh my! Too funny!
On another note. We never hear a peep about French Guiana, speaking bloody French, spending their bloody frenchie Euros, voting in frigging French elections. Basically a huge frenching fucking French Colony right there on Mainland South America.
Not a peep!
“Apparently the letter was read before Parlasur during the Sunday preparatory discussions of Monday's special session, and was booed and strongly rejected by the Argentine representatives who later received the support of their Mercosur peers.”
Nov 11th, 2014 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0By refusing to hear from the Falkland Islanders during this so called ‘debate,’ Argentine and the other members of Parlasur are perverting the democratic process.
Do they quake in their boots at the prospect of David turning up to confront Goliath?
Timerman and his odious associates are demonstrating, once again, that they are just a bunch of cowards.
16 paulcedron, please learn English! (You meant to say ”. . . colonial occupation BY Britain . . .) Second, Britain has not colonized the Falklands. The recent referendum makes clear that Falklanders approve being part of the Commonwealth, just as Canada is. For your edification, the stress on the word “COMMON” in commonwealth means inclusion in the interested well-being of members. . . . unlike the suffering you're inviting others to enjoy under the Argentine Kirchener dictatorship. You Argentines are sheep, bending over for a national screwing, by having correctly identified the most the most evil and Argentine-representative among you to elected public office. (Why can't you, as many in the world would consider just and reasonable were they in your place, follow the Romanians' just treatment of the no-more-corrupt-leader-than-C. Fernández, Nicolae Ceaușescu?)
Nov 11th, 2014 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Utter bollocks! Self-serving nonsense from a bunch of self-obsessed politicos on the make and, most probably, on the take. Do they really think that the world pays them any attention, or that the rest of the world doesn't see them for what they are?
Nov 11th, 2014 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Parlasur? The same old boys, talking the same old rubbish as MERCOSUR? CELAC. OAS etc, etc. Still no courage to invite the Kelpers who asked to attend
Nov 11th, 2014 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.falklands.gov.fk/assets/FIG-Request-to-ParlaSur-President-Ruben-Martinez-Huelmo-ENGLISH.pdf
@17
Nov 11th, 2014 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0How much English, Arabic, Yiddish, German or East European Slavonic was spoken at the meeting?
How much Italian was spoken at the meeting?
Nov 11th, 2014 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Another useless forum consisting of Argentina's friends issuing another useless declaration. Meanwhile, Her Majesty's flag still flies over the Falkland Islands, and will continue to do so forever.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0@15 a very, very good point HansNiesund.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 016 paulcedron (#)
the whole world condemns the colonial occupation of britain, not only in malvinas but in all their colonies.
-- Really?
Another absolute corker from paulie-polly. His horizons are so limited he thinks the 'whole world' consists of Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay and Venezuela - MercorSur
-- Imagine if he ever travelled abroad! lol!
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I particularly enjoyed the comments of that mad marxist bitch, Venezuela's Blanca Eckhout, who said that “decolonization of the Malvinas is a task that can't be put off”
umm... yes, well, good luck with that, dear.
and the British presence in the Islands is “an open bleeding wound for Mercosur”.
oh ffs, calm down on the hype, you will do yourself a mischief, love.
In fact the more I read of this article the funnier I find it. All these impotent fools jumping up and down in self-important impotent rage.
There is absolute zero they can actually DO...
LOL & more LOL!!!
As Argentinas economy plummets they are going to need more and more “special sessions” to distract the sheep. How is this special? Same shit for yrs on end
Nov 11th, 2014 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have never before seen such a load of utter rubbish as this article . Yes we all know the real reason Argentina wants the Falkland's to do exactly what they are suggesting the Falkland islanders and Britain are doing.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has a history of devious activities and has exploited not only the land they live on but the native people to near extinction.
This is a last ditch attempt to try and stop what is now unstoppable that is pumping oil . Argentina wants what we have only because they now after so many years of kicking and screaming like kids realise that the potential they thought they might one day get their hand on has gone.
Everywhere in the world OIL has been the cause of so much conflict and Argentina is no different . The only difference this time round is that a tiny population who stood up to them , who refused to be bullied into submission by them is now going to hit the jack pot and they are now desperate to try every last trick in the book to stop it happening.
Classical is it not that Argentina are the very people exploiting fish stocks in the zone . They have almost stripped their once rich country of almost every workable asset they ever had and they want to do the same to us. but we are about to become the richest people on the planet and no we won't be going on a mad spending spree any time soon but what we will be doing is putting a substantial sum into our military protection to stop any possibility of a repeat of 1982.
Argentina will never get their hands on our Country peaceably and they know it and right now they are not militarily strong enough to mount another invasion so they are now trying to get their neighbours in Latin America to support their cause. Bullying them into submission as usual.
“Argentina's Falklands claim only serves to buy the votes of uneducated people and does not lead anywhere”.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.infobae.com/2014/11/10/1607855-la-reivindicacion-argentina-malvinas-solo-sirve-comprar-el-voto-ciudadanos-poco-educados
At last some, RG beardy bloke standing up and stating the bleeding obvious. The truth hurts.
ilsen
Nov 11th, 2014 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Another absolute corker from paulie-polly. His horizons are so limited he thinks the 'whole world' consists of Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay and Venezuela - ”
i have told you many times: stop reading this 4th class newspaper and get informed properly.
so only brazil, paraguay, uruguay and venezuela supports argentina in this issue?
do you know what the G77 is?
now add china and the americas.
plus italy, france, spain, ireland, germany, etc, etc, etc.
you lot are alone as loco malo in this issue
Paul
Nov 11th, 2014 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you know what the UN General Assembly is?
Do you know that the last time Argentina tried to deny self-determination in 2008 to the Falkland islanders the Vote was won by the UK/
do you know that only 18 “Non-latin” countries voted with Argentina...most were 3rd world military dictatorships.
do you know that 60 countries voted with the UK.
poor Paul...“the whole world is 40 countries, Latinoes and juntas”...to Britain the “majority of the world”, is those who voted with us.
jesus you are a fuckwit
Paul, you suffer from delusions. Get treatment.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklanders really need to set up an office in DC to establish a direct relationship with Congressmen and Senators. I am not sure why they've not done this yet.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is the latest report to US Congress concerning The Crazy Rgs:
The situation in Argentina is unlikely to get better in the near future as the social fabric of a once prosperous nation is sliced away by inept economic policies, creeping authoritarianism, corruption, and the growing stranglehold of transnational organized crime. As the scandals accumulate around the president and her ruling clique, her popularity and ability to govern are severely impaired. Until now, the president has managed to keep a thin wall between herself and her trusted officials and partners who are the subjects of indictments and ever-widening investigations. While her hold on the judiciary is not complete, she has proved adept at using the powerful state apparatus to evade a wide variety of past and current cases that likely would have toppled less brazen officials.
http://www.strategycenter.net/docLib/20141018_Farah_LookingGlass_1014.pdf
So France, Germany support Argentina's claim t5o sovereignty. Can you show me this from a governmnet source in either country? Ireland ?....was not the declaration of support stated by Argentina denied by the Irish government ?
Nov 11th, 2014 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have been told time and time again, if Argentina feels they have a case, take it to the ICJ. So they run to wherever they can get an audience, tell their usual pack of lies and exaggerations and come out with the usual communique
which they have written before the conference.
What a pathetic country you have....you must be totally embarrassed by their shenanigans.
“Uruguay's Almagro pointed out to the 'many documents and resolutions' which indicate that self determination is only applicable to subjugated peoples”
Nov 11th, 2014 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In other words, Argentina has no right to self determination.
I guess because they knew what he outcome of this “debate” was, they went full crazy and just read out all of their myths as there was no one to challenge them.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I find it funny that they consider the Falklands becoming Argentine is not a colony? It is the very definition of a colony.
Very, very warped mindset from the Argentines.
Refusal to listen to the people most involved in this issue has to be the most morally despicable act. Anti democratic, authoritarian and afraid of the truth.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The fact is that the Argentine Government in the '90s spent much time talking to Falkland Islanders. It made for a co-operative approach to management of natural resources in the SWA.
This Government concentrates (with very little success) on trying to convince people with equally poor moral standards that our people don't exist and have no rights.
Truly pathetic.
So if only subjugated people are able to claim self determination in the decolonisation process, then why are the falklands on the decolonisation list.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentina gained sovereignty, then the islanders would be by definition 'a subjugated peoples' and therefore by their logic would be able to claim the right to self determination.
Who are these muppets who put these statements together, it seems you don't need a brain when it comes to politics, just a thick skin and an unhealthy interest in your own self importance and self promotion.
Meaningless ineffectual political rhetoric. When all the rights are yours under international law, you are under no obligation to even take notice.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Congratulations to Nestor & Christina for throwing all the toys out of the pram as any toys presented from an Argentine source have the same poisonous coatings and intentions, no-matter how nicely wrapped they might be made to look.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Today's Quality Assurance Marks for Polly's Posts.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0....
2/10
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(... and one of those marks was for class attendance....)
41- I had to pause and contemplate that one too!
Nov 11th, 2014 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't these idiots think even a little bit before they shoot their mouths off?
Now... If these were Americans in the Falklands, with our 2nd amendment, the folks on the island would be better armed then the Argies.
Does the Falklands have a self-defense force?
In any event, the important thing for the Peronists isn't having the islands, it's having the grievance. If it weren't the Falklands it would be the Beagle Channel again, or Antarctica, or some border thing to stoke the precious sense of victimhood with. As it is, whatever they say in public, the rest of Mercosur are probably not unhappy that there are Falklanders around to distract and draw fire.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Self-determination only applies to subjugated people.' Laughable. The ICJ has made 1 judgment and 4 Advisory Opinions that ALL confirm or state, 'that the right to self-determination is applicable to ALL non-self-governing territories.'. There are no exceptions. In this respect the UN Fourth Committee voted not to impose ANY restrictions on the right to self-determination even where there was a (so-called) sovereignty dispute. To suggest anything else is propaganda and pitiful behaviour.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Guerra de las Malvinas 1982 completo, alta calida…: http://youtu.be/WDIVVHKDKCE
Nov 11th, 2014 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The truth. In English with Spanish subtitles.
I quote UN Secretary General Ban-Ki-Moon on Wednesday May 19th 2010 whwn speaking at a forum on de-colonization in Noumea, New Caledonia:-
Nov 11th, 2014 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The world's 16 remaining territories that still do not govern themselves must have complete freedom in deciding their future status”.
He did not say excluding the Falkland Islands or for that matter Gibraltar
http://www.speroforum.com/a/33140/Remaining-nonselfgoverning-territories-must-have-full-freedom-of-choice-Ban-says
45 Rick from Maryland (#)
Nov 11th, 2014 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes they do:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands_Defence_Force
I also suggest you read the article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands_Defence_Force
Wonderful pic of Gollum, only he isn't drooling...
Nov 11th, 2014 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 018 Alejomartinez
Nov 11th, 2014 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The use of inverted commas is to show that they are quoting the speaker and these are not the words of the journalist.
Standard editorial practise world-wide. You are seeing things that aren't there.
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48 ilsen
Looks like my link didn't work. Sorry about that.
Try this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDIvvHkdKCE
Fabuloso documental con subtítulos en Castellano
ilsen
Nov 11th, 2014 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what does not work is your brain.
Pauline.....'Most of the speakers during the special session rejected the right to self determination as argued by the British government and the inhabitants of the Falklands/Malvinas to justify their position and 'occupation' of the Islands'
Nov 11th, 2014 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you read that Paulie... 'MOST' of the speakers rejected self determination, so that means some didn't, so even in Parlesur you have some that don't agree with you, but you said that whole world agrees with you.
Just another chance to laugh at the South American club who show their emotional incontinence when it comes to the Falklands.
Members of Par la Sewer:
Nov 11th, 2014 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your Gringo Amigos salute you for your bravery in the face of overwhelming odds against the united forces of imperialism. Your exemplor service is noted. All hail!
Salute.
A Brazillian has just spent 700,000,000 GBP or 1,111,901,000 USD on buying an office in London. Must be more of that 'support for Argentina's claims' then?
Nov 11th, 2014 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Money talks, bullshit walks.
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50 zathras
Thank you for the excellent and interesting links. Terry Peck, what a wonderful man!
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Re; Topic.
None of this verbal diahhorea from the talking-shop that is Parley-Sur really matters.
Facts don't lie. The Falklands are not Argentine. They don't possess them and never will.
The rest is just hot-air and chest-beating.
Sad, especially when the should be having special meetings about their collapsing economies and what they are going to do to prevent their people from starving. I wonder what the ordinary tax-payers think about all this?
Paul is the perfect representative from Arg. He makes up facts, outright lies, if someone dispute them he insults and runs away. He is truly just like his fearless leader in every regard. Probably on his way right now to a bar to debate the Falklands, with his unemployed buddies, and issue a decree with their findings.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@27
Nov 11th, 2014 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“How much Italian was spoken at the meeting?”
I don't know. Probably it was only Spanish speakers attempting to dictate who is allowed to live in the South Atlantic, and how they should be governed. And calling it “anti-colonialism”. Don't you find that just a teeny weeny bit lacking in self-awareness?
But whoever it was who said that British sovereignity of the islands ”imposes in our region as system so that our peoples can never fully develop” was in fact 100% dead right. As long as the mentality persists which makes the highest national policy out of an imaginary grievance over an event that never happened two centuries ago, Argentina will never become what it might once have been.
@16. The 'whole world' eh? Tell us about Canada. Tell us about France. Tell us about the United States. Tell us about New Zealand. New Zealand supplied a warship when a Royal Navy warship was needed to evict thieving criminals. The United States supplied all the munitions we could want. Still does. The US also offered the use of the USS Iwo Jima (LPH-2) if either British carrier was damaged or destroyed. Would it have been the only assistance? France supplied techical information to negate Exocets. Canada just said “Whatever you want”. That's TWO nuclear powers. The problem for pablo is that “We don't want to get involved” translates as 'support' for imperialist, colonialist argieland. Ever noticed how it's always argieland that announces 'support'?
Nov 11th, 2014 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18. Get a brain!
@27. Who cares? There's only two important Italian words. 'retiro' (retreat) and 'resa' (surrender). There's also 'passara alla quinta retromarcia'. I'm sure you understand. (change to fifth reverse gear). No change between WW2 and 2011. Italians are still cowards.
@33. Poor fool. Gather together all your 'friends'. At 18,030 mph, a Trident missile takes less than 30 minutes to transit between the UK and Buenos Aires. That's 14 475 kilotonne warheads. Do you understand your impotence?
@34. And does ANYONE understand the UN General Assembly's insignificance. Not one single 'resolution' is binding.
@45. It has one. But why would the Falkland Islands need a self-defence force? It has the British Army, the Royal Air Force and the Royal Navy. It would take the entire south american armed forces to defeat the three together. And, meanwhile, Tomahawk-equipped fleet submarines, RAF Voyagers with troops aboard and Typhoons refuelling would be on their way. The fact is that south america, all of it, is nothing compared to a proper nation.
It's rather funny watching Rumpletimskin and his newly-found poison dwarf, Almagro.
Maybe the UK and islanders should completley change tack. Hand the entire islands and oceans over to Argentine sovereignty but then arm every islander with a stick. They'd soon hand it back.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the meantime, the British reconquest Buenos Aires!
Nov 11th, 2014 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My beloved “Británico” has reopened!
God Save el Británico!
A happy Think...
61 Turnip Troll
Nov 11th, 2014 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Off- topic, nothing relevant to say.
Geeeeeee......
Nov 11th, 2014 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I forgot to post the link to this good British news...
Here it is...:
http://www.infobae.com/2014/11/11/1607956-reabrio-el-historico-bar-britanico
Is clear that the pirates affects them all. Because comments are only pirates and islanders. jajajaj Go Home !
Nov 11th, 2014 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Arg & Ven are about to fall off a financial cliff, and this is their reaction?
Nov 11th, 2014 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ooohh I know, let's pop over to the Falklands and steal their oil!”
Pathetic, useless and an obvious non-starter. Can't believe their populations support, elcect and pay such idiots.
Financial Cliff...?
Nov 11th, 2014 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What Financial Cliff...?
No “Cliffs” here in the Pampas, matey...
Just some spread but tricky vizcacheras...
Fuckem!
Nov 11th, 2014 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oooppppppppps.....
Nov 11th, 2014 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I nearly forgot to comment about the topic of this thread...
Yet another nail on the Engrish diplomatic coffin in the South-Atlantic...
Scotland, Chubut...
Nov 11th, 2014 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am so confused
I wonder if it makes a difference on the time of day?
Nail in a coffin...snicker
Those must be very small nails
You'll be long dead before that coffin is ever sealed up
@67
Nov 11th, 2014 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not as nearly as big as the ones being stuck into argentine relations with Uncle Sam by cfk.
Tell me, if British diplomacy in South America has completely failed and Latam genuinely hates Britain, then why no embargo? Why is the red ensign still going into Latam ports? Why no recall of ambassadors etc?
Has it occurred to you that your Latam brothers are just paying lip service to Argentina? If the whole of latam were so certain that Britain has nothing to offer, as you like to project, then why bother with it?
The coffin is now made up of more nails than wood!
Nov 11th, 2014 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“”“The world”s 16 remaining territories that still do not govern themselves must have complete freedom in deciding their future status, Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon told a forum on decolonization.“”“”“”
Nov 11th, 2014 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lock, stock and two smokin' barrels....
So this is how present dictators work,
Nov 11th, 2014 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lies and deceit, bullying and aggression,
Anti British and brain washing for the uneducated who cannot see the truth for the shit in their eyes,
No doubt copies of this statement from the brainwashed will be incorporated into the argentine history books by Friday,
The fact is, if they were yours you would have them by now,
They are not, never was and never will be,
You only wish to replace democracy with dictatorship
Why the UN put up with your lies is a mark on their failure to see the truth,
The answer is simple,
Take it to the ICJ or soddy offy.
,
.
@70
Nov 11th, 2014 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know! And yet Anglo-latam ties are still here! Strange that...
It's as if the rest of latam, along with the rest of the thinking world have concluded that the Falklands issue continually banged on about by Argentina is a complete insignificance to what really matters.....otherwise something would have happened by now.....
It is time for Mr Swire from her majestys FO to grow a pair and ensure that any EU deal withe mercosur guarantees that full and open trading is
Nov 11th, 2014 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Available to the Falkland Islanders with all mercosur countries. For UK to block it otherwise. Then lets see how voiciferous they would be. Also one in the eye for belicose Spanish. Flex
Some muscle Mr Swire.
The 5 Most High Technology Enabled Combat Forces in the World
Nov 11th, 2014 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read more at http://www.technologyvista.in/pin/5-most-high-technology-enabled-combat-forces-in-the-world/#
http://www.technologyvista.in/pin/5-most-high-technology-enabled-combat-forces-in-the-world/#
And Argentina or Mercosur aint one of them...lol
(69) Ekeko
Nov 11th, 2014 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Allow me to digress....
Firstly....., this South-American “Nail” against Engrish Haughtiness and colonial geopolitical ambitions in the South Atlantic is every 1/64'' as long as the nails President Kirchner is hammering into our relationship with Uncle Sam.............. Nails I'm pretty fond of....., I must say...
Secondly...
You are reading us wrongly...
Nobody here “HATES” the British... and everybody knows they have quite a few good things to offer...
The only thing we are, loud and clear, asking the Engrish is...:
a) To leave their Haughtiness at home.
b) To behave like normal human beings.
c) To forget about those 12,000,000 square km. of South-Atlantic territory they want to steal from us...
Argentina via CFK wishes to build there very own empire,
Nov 11th, 2014 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0to enslave freedom by imposing dictatorship upon the people,
they wish to steal from others, yet claim to be the victim,
but as long as they with to remain British and free
there is nothing the argy thieves can do abt it but cry and scream ,
no matter who they cry to , from the UN to the gutter, they will never ever rule the south Atlantic by force of lies and deceit or anything else,
CFK and her co-horts are a disgrace to human rights , and freedom
but like all spoilt aggressive children, they either grow up, or end up in prison,
in this case CFK should be locked up for her sanity..
@76
Nov 11th, 2014 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well for a start there is no 'us' as I've been saying all along, if the solidarity which you like to project is true it would have come to some genuine fruition.
The most obvious answer is the most probable. Viz a vie your South American cousins are just amusing you for the sake of it. If they genuinely stood shoulder to shoulder with you something would have happened unilaterally. Like I said the coffin nails your banging in with the USA are real, it is happening. British relations hadn't changed in latam, how many times does the Falklands get mentioned in a meeting between uk and Brazil or Chile for example? How long does that last? How much pressure is being put on the uk?
Do you think having massive wappies over 3000 islanders is behaving like normal people? Do you think that refusing to engage in fruitful discussions with the people you want to join your so called wonderful community in South America is behaving like normal people? Do you think that tearing up the hydrocarbon and fisheries deals with the islanders is normal behaviour?
There is no contempt shown by Britain to Argentina over the Falklands, the position has always remained the same, sell Argentina to the falklanders and it's yours. It's Argentina which is acting in disdain, to the falklanders, to the un charter and most of all to its own people with this idiotic train of thought.
50 - Terry Peck, a true hero.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks!
“Falklands' British 'colonial occupation' condemned by Parlasur”
Nov 11th, 2014 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yawn.....................
I've got elbows!!! Hey everyone!! I've got elbows!!!
“Timerman then went on to describe how Britain had occupied the Islands in 1883”
Nov 11th, 2014 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is it Mercopress or Timerman who is historically challenged?
“self determination is only applicable to subjugated peoples ”
So if Argentina subjugates the Falkland Islands against the will of its inhabitants they then become entitled to self-determination?
@76
Nov 11th, 2014 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How haughty do you have to be, to be fervently convinced that things that have never been yours, have been stolen from you?
A one sided meeting of morons........ how cosy,
Nov 11th, 2014 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i fail to see any relevance.
76 Think
Nov 11th, 2014 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only thing we are, loud and clear, asking the Engrish is...:
a) To leave their Haughtiness at home.
b) To behave like normal human beings.
c) To forget about those 12,000,000 square km. of South-Atlantic territory they want to steal from us...
Chuckle, chuckle.....................
Think is “projecting” again. You can almost smell his impotent desperation from here!!!
Hey Think, it's pot and kettle time!!!
(78) Ekeko
Nov 11th, 2014 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And yet another haughty Anglo.... invoking the nonexistent “Self Determination Rights” of some 2,500 British citizens & Kelpers to justify the appropriation of some 12,000,000 square km. of South Atlantic territory...
To put it graphically......, 12 million km2 are about 50 (fifty) times the surface of the UK....
Just for comparison.... The 7,000 French citizens of the islands of Saint Pierre & Miquelon off the coast of Canada got some 12,000 square kilometers...
But.... Don't be shy, feel free to do as most haughty Anglos in here do... ignore them facts and avoid any comment about them.....
Or do as the few haughty but sincere Anglos in here...
Admit that you stole that territory fair and square and that you intend to keep it....
@85
Nov 11th, 2014 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not invoking any non existent rights, it's there for all to see, show me where it says they do not? Show me where the un says it does not apply to the falklanders in black and white?
Show me where Argentina has more right to South Georgia and sandwich islands? Because a whaling vessel took a day trip to ba?
Why does geographical size of a country bear any resemblance to legal title? Must feel sorry for Bolivia or Paraguay right now.....
Talking of ignoring comments, thanks for not responding to my statements about the fact that Argentina is being played by its own latam comrades. Truth hurts?
Personally, No one can be 100% sure as if anything was or was not stolen, however logic dictates if something was for certain stolen,the nation who had it stolen from them would have done something concrete by now with the backing of its allies and neighbours.
That's why Argentina hasn't done anything to get it back, that's why you have no solidarity from your latam cousins as they can see its a farce and that's why Argentina is still flogging a dead horse.
The intention is never to keep anything, the intention is stand by the people who it matters most. The islanders themselves. The rhetoric hasn't changed sell Argentina to the islanders and the deal is done.
But that's too straightforward after all.
“”“”“ the position has always remained the same, sell Argentina to the falklanders and it's yours”“”“”
Nov 11th, 2014 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and yet they just cant do that can they?
In fact they even know they cant do that, so they dont even try - which says even more about them and their position.
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“”“nd yet another haughty Anglo.... invoking the nonexistent “Self Determination Rights” of some 2,500 British citizens & Kelpers”“”
ok, so we all assume you just “accidentally” omitted to read the bit about Ban Ki Moon and what he said... or is the truth so thoroughly inconvenient to you that you are now genetically predisposed to be unable to even see it????
Do not confuse haughtiness (a rather xenophobic trait to label an entire nation with - and a pastiche of old cliches) with - speaking factually.
I know that this is very hard for you indoctrinated Malvos, yet it remains fact.
Read Ban Ki Moons lips if it helps...
“”“The world”s 16 remaining territories that still do not govern themselves must have complete freedom in deciding their future status, Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon told a forum on decolonization.“”“”“”
MUST
HAVE
COMPLETE
FREEDOM
85 Think
Nov 11th, 2014 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Or do as the few haughty but sincere Anglos in here...
Admit that you stole that territory fair and square and that you intend to keep it....”
Or we could do as all the Argentine / La Campora trolls do on here and admit nothing!!
Tell you what!! we will, what was it you said? feel free to do as most haughty Anglos in here do... ignore them facts and avoid any comment about them.....
and the Argentine / La Campora trolls can .. ignore them facts and avoid any comment about them.....
how about that?
Hey Think, it's pot and kettle time!!!
hugs and kisses
from the UK.
Turnip at (86)
Nov 11th, 2014 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Without surprise, I can see that you chose the insincere possibility number 1...:
“Ignore them facts and avoid any comment about them”
Have a nice life......
@85
Nov 11th, 2014 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Admit that you stole that territory fair and square and that you intend to keep it....”
Surely you don't mean to imply that the UK might have acquired some of its territory in the same way that Argentina acquired all of its?
76 Think (#)
Nov 11th, 2014 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(69) Ekeko
Allow me to digress....
err... NO! why should we listen to your crappy digressions?
utterly boring. stupidly pathetic. complete waste of time.
Can't face the topic, can you? Must be horrible to wake up every day, knowing you are wrong.
Total Fool.
@89
Nov 11th, 2014 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I Haven't ignored anything, I've answered all your points and some.
You've taken a position of haughtiness, disdain upon another's opinion.
All I've said is prove your statements of theft, or justify your arguments. Ergo your disdain is without justification.
I've given you the truth, I.e be nice to the falklanders and job done. Simple.
Basically you've just had your pants pulled down and you've had it handed to you.
Now move along.
Hold the bus. Another sane Argentine breaks cover :
Nov 11th, 2014 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'“Carlos Escudé , renowned political scientist and Argentine writer ... explained his proposal on how to address the conflict over sovereignty of the Falkland Islands. He considered that Argentina's position is ”maximalist“ because ”we want to recover everything,“ and above this, warned that ”it is the losing option“ .”It leads to nothing, is pure rhetoric. Used to buy the votes of uneducated people and nothing else for it ”'
http://www.infobae.com/2014/11/10/1607855-la-reivindicacion-argentina-malvinas-solo-sirve-comprar-el-voto-ciudadanos-poco-educados
Carlos goes on to propose a resource-sharing solution but seems to have forgotten that this was precisely the arrangement torn up by Nestor Kirchner.
Idiot @ 85, just for comparison, Saint Pierre & Miquelon is 25km off the coast of Canada and has an area of 242km2. The falklands are 500km off Argentina and 12,200km2. Not inside Argentinas economic zone or territorial waters, so what is there to compare.
Nov 11th, 2014 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By contrast Argentina has an area of 2,780,400 km2 but can't move forward in the modern world and blames all their failures and ills on a missing 12,200km2 spurious claim, just comparing.....
And yet another Anglo Turnip that just pulls some numbers out of his hat (500 km., he says) but “Forgets” that in the year 2014, there is something called “Google Earth”......
Nov 11th, 2014 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0192 Nautical Miles is the exact distance between the Malvinas Islands and the nearest Argentinean territory.....
192 Nautical Miles....
Well inside the current Argentinean EEZ
Educate yourself, Turnip.
If such contempt the despicable OKUPAS of our argentine malvinas islands have for by ours countries and by the decisions made in relation to argentine malvinas islands, why they get heated both in each of these assemblies and try to send a rat like Short is trying to convince they take into account? They have completely closed that possibility:
Nov 12th, 2014 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0The eighth article of the Charter of the Organization of American States (OAS), endorsed in 1967, reads:
“The Permanent Council shall not make any recommendation or the General Assembly take any decision on the application for admission of a political entity whose territory is subject, in whole or in part, prior to the date of December 18, 1964 set by the first Inter-American Conference, to litigation or claim between an extra-continental country and one or more Member States of the Organization, while it has not ended the dispute by peaceful means.”
95 Lying Turnip Think
Nov 12th, 2014 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0“192 Nautical Miles is the exact distance between the Malvinas Islands and the nearest Argentinean territory..... ”
TURNIP THINK IS LYING, again.
The Falklands are 300 miles East of Argentina, at the closest point.
”he Falkland Islands (/ˈfɔːlklənd/; Spanish: Islas Malvinas [malˈβinas]) are an archipelago in the South Atlantic Ocean on the Patagonian Shelf. The principal islands are about 300 miles (500 km) east of South America's southern Patagonian coast, at a latitude of about 52°S”
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands
Furthermore, the EEZ extends 200 n. miles from each coast - with only 300 miles between them, that would put the boundary somewhere about halfway.
The EEZ of the Falklands extends all around the Islands.
The Argentine EEZ does not extend all the way to the islands. Even at 200 n.m. It would be 100 miles short.
Again TURNIP THINK IS LYING.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands
Turnip Think,
You don't have much of an argument when you have to lie about geographical facts and Maritime Law and Sovereignty.
What an inept liar you are - easily refuted by actual facts.
Think, you are indeed correct, my mistake.
Nov 12th, 2014 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry Think but the Falklands are not inside the current Argentine EEZ, you would like it to be, but the Falklands have their own EEZ which borders Argentinas, so they are surrounded by their own EEZ, which they control
You may dispute the EEZ, but you do not control them.
Educate yourself , Idiot.
@96
Nov 12th, 2014 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0It doesn't matter what happened in 1967, we have moved on since then, Argentina went to war with the UK in 1982, you muppet, that cancels all treaties before then , and you know that Argentina doesn't know what a treaty is anyway. Let us put it simply for you, “ YOU AS A COUNTRY WILL NOT HAVE SOVEREIGNTY OVER THE FALKLANDS” Do you get it now.
99
Nov 12th, 2014 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0If are you so convinced, you idiot, why send a short rat intelligence (Short)?
Argentina has and always had sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands Argentinas. Argentina have not the POSSESSION for questions of force majeure. Pirates british: never trust.
67 Think
Nov 12th, 2014 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0I suppose one could define Argentine strategy as diplomatic, but it is so devoid of any of the usual finesse that one associates with the subject. But since the British have never sought a diplomatic solution to what they view as a strictly legal question, they will remain impervious while Argentina continues to be unsuccessful.
@95, ok Mr Think, I totally agree with you The Falklands are 192nm from Argentine territory at least we agree that the Falklands are not Argentine territory. Nuf said!
Nov 12th, 2014 - 01:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0100 José Malevolent
Nov 12th, 2014 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina has and always had sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands Argentinas. Argentina have not the POSSESSION for questions of force majeure. Pirates british: never trust.”
Hmmm,
let me correct that for you:
Britain has and always had sovereignty over the Falkland Islands.
Britain has always had the POSSESSION by Self Determination.
Pirates Argentine: never trust, again.
“192 NAUTICAL miles to Argentina”
Nov 12th, 2014 - 04:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0184 actually.
A small outcrop off the Isla de los estados and Bird Island off West Falkland.
184 nautical miles might be within an EEZ, however an EEZ only confers a sovereign right BELOW the surface of the sea. Full sovereignty is only exercised over the territorial sea.
Argentina's EEZ does not include the Falkland Islands and is not recognised as thus by anyone.
Doesn't matter though. The Falklands could share a land border with Argentina and it will still mean Argentina had no sovereignty.
Anglolatino, dahling...
Nov 12th, 2014 - 04:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“184, actually
A small outcrop off the Isla de los Estados and Bird Island off West Falkland”
I say...:
“Small inhabitable rock outcrops may NOT be used to measure or define borders”, says the correspondent international law....
You say further...:
“Argentina's EEZ does not include the Falkland Islands and is not recognised as thus by anyone...”
I say...:
Do you read the articles you comment on...? or are you too pretty for intelligence?
:-)))
Nov 12th, 2014 - 05:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0“192 Nautical Miles is the exact distance between the Malvinas Islands and the nearest Argentinean territory.....”
Nov 12th, 2014 - 05:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0184 actually.
Unless that small outcrop off Isla de los estados isn't part of “Argentinean territory”. I didn't say that was the distance of the border. Neither did you. That is the distance between TERRITORY.
Tsk Tsk. Are you taking tips from Voice on moving the goal posts?
184 Nautical Miles is the exact distance between the Falkland Islands and the nearest Argentinean territory.
The simple fact that you use the word NEAREST to denote Argentinean territory clearly means that you do not consider the Falkland Islands Argentinean.
To educate you in some Engrish, you should have used MAINLAND.
While I am indeed pretty (as witnessed by your desire to call me dahling), that does not mean I cannot also be intelligent (as witnessed by the dozens of posts where I have argued you in to a corner).
I read the article. And no where did I see that Argentina's EEZ includes the Falkland Islands. While Argentina may have claimed something more, that doesn't not mean that it is recognised as part of its EEZ. Its EEZ is clearly delineated according to international law and not the whims of ineffectual organs such as Parlasur. And according to the international law that governs EEZs, the United Kingdom's EEZ is clearly recognised around the Falkland Islands.
Not Argentina's.
Wanting to call someone makes one pretty?
Nov 12th, 2014 - 06:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0How about trying to meet someone in person?
At least a half dozen people here, including you and a woman called Elaine, have made such a proposal to me.
But alas, I don't meet with people that hate me for who I am (where I am from, more precisely)
Why is Jose quoting the OAS?
Nov 12th, 2014 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0What bearing do their statutes have on Parlasur?
Maybe he didn't read the article?
“192 Nautical Miles is the exact distance between the Malvinas Islands and the nearest Argentinean territory.....”
Nov 12th, 2014 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0So what? By no stretch of the imagination do the Falklands fall within Argentina's EEZ. It may be the case that a country's EEZ extends 200 nautical miles from the baseline, but this is only true if it doesn't encroach upon somebody else's EEZ. And even if it did, an EEZ does not confer sovereignity anyway.
Of all Argentina's silly arguments, the continental shelf argument is exceeded in silliness only by the migrating birds argument, and arguably the claim to South Georgia.
Hans
Nov 12th, 2014 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think has gone to lick his wounds and will be back with deflection and a movement of goalposts as soon as he can put his disastrous attempt of bringing up Argentina's EEZ behind him.
Credit where credit's due. He's doing a terrific job of demonstrating that Argentina's claim is a matter of faith rather than reason.
Nov 12th, 2014 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0107 Anglotino
Nov 12th, 2014 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Did I make a mistake with that distance?
Here I was thinking it must be “nearly 300 miles” due to my Falklands link.
Are there other islands off of the Arg coast that are not apparent/
Gosh! My apologies to all, especially Think, if that is the case. How embarrassing.
However, if Think Turnip was right about that - he still is telling a whopper if he insists the Falklands are within the EEZ of Argentina - it just does not work that way.
I'm sure that great naval man, Commander DoD, could have told him that quite easily - being close at hand and all...
Lots of shouting and speechifying at this meeting.
Nov 12th, 2014 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lots of agreement and back-slapping.
Any action to be put in place? What steps have they agreed to take?
@114
Nov 12th, 2014 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ What steps have they agreed to take?” Fucking big ones and all backwards.
@115
Nov 12th, 2014 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol!
*hooting*
Very funny indeed, but I am serious. I want to know what collective action they have decided to undertake.
I think we should be told.
I mean that surely after having this long awaited, and no doubt expensive, Special Session, they will have agreed on actual concrete steps to be taken?
They have, haven't they?
:-/
If the argies truly believe they belong to them,
Nov 12th, 2014 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0then quite simply come and take them,
Come on..
@116
Nov 12th, 2014 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ concrete steps” I have heard that is precisely what is happenong. They intend to maufacture “ concrete steps” and then walk across the Argentine/ FALKLAND sea and retake the FALKLANDS
In relation to Titterman, Almagro and the rest of this shameful gathering, the phrase “Compulsive and incurable masturbators” does spring to mind.
Nov 12th, 2014 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shame on Uruguay for permitting this gathering and for refusing the participation of the Falklanders!
These people are paid to do a job? So apart from the fact that they all agreed on something external to them, what are they going to actually do?
Nov 12th, 2014 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why can no one answer this simple question?
We all know the answer “ absolutely nothing ” or start a war, no tried that, economic sanctions no tried that. Stop British Flagged vessels no tried that, ban and imprison oil executives working in FALKLANDS don't know which court to arraign before. No I have to think of something!! No can't.
Nov 12th, 2014 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To be honest Ilsen there is not a lot going to happen, it is all lip service hoping it will go away.
@115 Did you hear about 'the Malvinas Marathon?' Well a lot of Argies have ''fallen in the water''
Nov 12th, 2014 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@121 golfcronie
Nov 12th, 2014 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To be honest, I knew that really, I just wanted someone else to state it.
cheers tho!
Just trying to get my point across that this Special Session was a complete waste of time. I hope all those involved realise that, but I doubt it somehow.
Magic-realism, I guess!
:)
@123
Nov 12th, 2014 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To be serious I lived in Argentina for two and a half years and enjoyed it very much. In fact I married an Argentine lady. But since “ democracy” or that is what it is referred to, everyone has had their finger in the pie. It will be impossible to change course now as the future President is going to enforce austerity, that will not go down well with the electorate.
Timmerman said “[they] they sell hydrocarbons ”
Nov 12th, 2014 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have yet to see any proof of this. I thought it was still in the exploration stage. I didn't realise that the Falklands were already pumping the stuff?
Or is he lying?
Can anyone answer that simple question?
(sorry, I do know that too! hehe)
I have spent many years in Venezuela and know how you feel. I got so sick of the expected bribes and corruption. Having a coffee with a government official one time he told me quite openly that he had applied for the job because the bribes were so good, and how he was now busy bribing other officials to give his sons and cousins jobs too, so he could extend his corrupt network.
He seemed proud of this.
LATAM Convention 101:
Nov 12th, 2014 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Agenda:
#1: Let the Argies bargy about the Falklands, all agree to anything they say just to shut them up.
#2 Move on to something important.
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“”“192 Nautical Miles is the exact distance between the Malvinas Islands and the nearest Argentinean territory.....”“””
lmao @ Think o -OOpsie boy, slipped up there didnt you?
You wont be getting paid for THAT post. :-0
LATAM Convention 102:
Nov 13th, 2014 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Conclusion.
Well, I think we can all agree that The Mercosur parliament, Parlasur, in a special Monday session held in Montevideo achieved absolutely sweet FA.
Well Done Us!
Now, back to the hotel for an informal gathering of champagne, hookers, cocaine and a Seminar on “Top Tips - Where to Stash your Illegal USD in Off-Shore Bank Accounts”.
next!
Anbar
Nov 13th, 2014 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Haha, Think won't reply. It is his SOP to conveniently disappear from a thread when I have shown he up.
Still licking away, Think?
126 ANBAR . . . WRONG! (On 2 counts:)
Nov 13th, 2014 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0First, the nearest ARGENTINE territory, the tip of the island Tierra del Fuego, is 162 nautical miles (300 kms) from the nearest shore of THE FALKLAND ISLANDS.
Second, there is no such word as “argentinean” (not present in ANY dictionary), which is the mistaken ignorant Argentine bastardization of the German word, “Agentinien.” The word in English is ARGENTINE.
Ooh my! Someone got out of the wrong side of bed today!
Nov 13th, 2014 - 03:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0*head tilt*
is this most important point to raise when the article refers to the health, well being and the future of 3000 innocent people faced with an aggressive neighbour?
*condescending look*
Behave yourself man!
pedant's corner is that way →
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/argentinian
Nov 13th, 2014 - 05:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentinian or Argentinean (ˌɑːdʒənˈtɪnɪən)
Definitions
adjective
another name for Argentine (sense 3)
noun
another name for Argentine (sense 2)
:)
Nov 13th, 2014 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0129 Phrasewizard
Nov 13th, 2014 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thin you are wrong on two counts,
1)As described in the Post by Anglotino
2)As Think correctly pointed out to me for my error, the nearest Argentinian territory to Falklands is 186 Nautical miles,
What you failed to grasp though is that thinks statement stated '...between the Malvinas Islands and the nearest Argentinean territory.....' is that a sub-conscious , 'Freudian slip'.
#129
Nov 13th, 2014 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who the hell cares!!!!! A rose by any other name..................
“It's a population artificially settled to ensure the occupation and to conspire against Argentine interests” added the Argentine official.
Nov 13th, 2014 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Squatters through and through. Let's see. Will US congressmen listen to the voice of 3k sheepherders or the voice of an entire Continent and risk watching said continent lean towards the Far East and Siberia.
@135
Nov 13th, 2014 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ conspire against Argentine interests” and pray tell us what those interests are?
Why doesn't Argentina worry about their own population than harassing 2500 people who just want to get on with their lives? MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS there is nothing that the FALKLANDERS want from you. Just ask them they will no doubt put you straight.
Sorry Sallus, are you talking about Argentina when you mention squatters, how many of you are artificially settled.
Nov 13th, 2014 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They will listen to the 3k islanders obviously. Argentina couldn't even get all attendees to Parlasur to buy the 'No Self Determination' propaganda. The rest of SA won't lift a finger to help you, what actions did they decide on at Parlasur, ermmm....absolutely nothing.
You lot are so delusional that you think everyone believes your lies as well, what do you think the US are going to do?. The Falklands have sweet F.A. to do with the US.
What power the Falklands must have if it is capable of making a whole continent lean towards China and Russia, or how pathetic you must be, to let 3000 people have such and effect on you. But I suppose you have to have a scape goat for all you ills and misfortune, after all it never is your fault , it is always someone else's.
Well............
Nov 13th, 2014 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can see that the lads and lasses in here learned two (2) things...:
1) That them windblown Islands are placed precisely 192 miles from the rest of Argentinean Territory...
2) That them windblown Islands are called Malvinas...
Now, we wait until MercoPress finds a way to
Serve the GOOD NEWS about the Pirate Oil Exploitation Adventure in the South Atlantic in the most Anglo friendly way...
Not an easy task, I reckon... Not at all...
Clue 1)...:
Rockhopper's Sealion has today become a Rockdropper's Seakitten.... (Not my words... I found them at III..., honest, Guv;-)
Clue 2)...:
Oil price just dropped to U$S 74,21...
Chuckle chuckle....
@135
Nov 13th, 2014 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ Squatters through and through”
How many English settlers were left at Port Louis in 1833 when HMS Clio departed( after ejecting UP military, most of which were executed in Buenos Aires after being court martialled)?
Antonina Roxa sound like an English name to you?
Or was she a South American squatter?
What about Antonio Rivero? Was he an English squatter?
And were the German settlers English?
What about Ventura Paso? English squatter?
And the head Gaucho the Frenchman , Simon. Can a Frenchman be an English squatter?
Look up an Atlas.
“Will US congressmen listen to the voice of 3k sheepherders or the voice of an entire Continent and risk watching said continent lean towards the Far East and Siberia.”
What? Do you really think the US want to lose their bases on Ascension Island and Diego Garcia?
Will Siberia let the US have an airbase there?
Would an airbase in Siberia be better than the airbases on Ascension or DG?
Ask the congressman that. You (not everyone else) would be surprised at their answer.
Can you do maths? There are not as many as 3K shepherds on the Falklands, and if they were all shepherds how would FIGAS fly their aircraft?
Question-how many shepherds live in Stanley, the highest population concentration in the Falkland Islands?
Ever grasped the difference between a town and the countryside (Campo)?
You are an absolute bonehead to think that a society can run with only one form of trade.
Argentina's claim has been in place for a long time and it is not going away. You Sheepherders are nothing more than occupying it on stolen land. Britain will become too poor to continue to subsidize your little squatting venture. Heck, it can't even afford aircraft carriers anymore. Argentina will just bide its time. Since 1833, when Brits took it by force. Just a matter of time.
Nov 13th, 2014 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#140
Nov 13th, 2014 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Possibly in about 500 years.
yeah...no, try a generation or two when the English political clout for defending the Malvinas is gone and too hard on the dwindling English coffer....
Nov 14th, 2014 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0@15 Hans Niesund
Nov 14th, 2014 - 03:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The only anachronisms here are Argentina´s 19th century mentality,........., and the peculiar racist idea that South America and the South Atlantic are the unique preserve of Italo_Iberian colonial immigrants.”
Wonderful...! Flabbergasting...! MOST original...! .But may I ask you, Mr.Niesund how is it possible to match this astounding discovery with Argentine Government ´s sponsorship , during the EIGHTEEN-sixties, of Welsh settlement in Northern Patagonia...?
Argenfellow
Nov 14th, 2014 - 05:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Arg. was not very consistent in the 19th c.
They hate the Brits... They welcome the Brit Investments... they hate the Brits.... they want Brit-built infrastructure... they hate the Brits... back and forth, whatever is expedient....
I am so glad Think learnt his lesson.
Nov 14th, 2014 - 05:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Post 95:
“192 Nautical Miles is the exact distance between the Malvinas Islands and the nearest Argentinean territory.....”
Post 138:
“That them windblown Islands are placed precisely 192 miles from the rest of Argentinean Territory...”
REST of Argentine territory indeed. See, you can teach an old dog new tricks.
So gone from 192 NAUTICAL miles to 192 miles..... and still got it wrong.
But thank you for the compliment that we are capable of learning.
Seem you are too.... from me! Bahahahahahaha
This motion is largely irrelevant. The UK will be returning the Malvinas within 25 years irrespective of any position that this body may take.
Nov 14th, 2014 - 06:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0136 - GolfCrohn'sDisease - Your on our land. That makes it our business. Enjoy the squatting rights while you can. Eviction will come eventually. 12,000NM from your saviors, they'll forget you soon enough.
Nov 14th, 2014 - 07:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0@147:
Nov 14th, 2014 - 08:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Your on our land.”
No, they really aren't. They're there with the full blessing of the rightful holders of sovereignty, which makes them the legitimate inhabitants of those islands, not “squatters” as you claim.
You need to stop lying.
“Eviction will come eventually.”
And those trying to illegally evict the Islanders will get exactly what they deserve, same as the last two times they attempted to usurp British territory.
Don't forget - you're the ones attempting to usurp our sovereignty, not vice versa. That's undisputable.
The parrot Hepatia returns with her buddy at 147.
Nov 14th, 2014 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0I cannot understand why Argentina is doing so badly with posters of such quality as Hepatia, Salus, Malen, Jose M. etc.
They all must be equipped with rune sticks and crystal balls - no pun intended -that they can predict the future of the UK/Falklands. Why could they not have applied their wisdom to prevent Argentina being in the mess it is ?
Sallus and Hepatia are indeed ”carpooling', always arriving at threads at the same time, and posting together.
Nov 14th, 2014 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The same operator.
He is too lazy to make any effort to disguise his actions
148 - Kurze30 - just have you know that there is a great many Argentinos and many SA nations thinking that you are squatters, even the Spaniards and Portuguese. I am sure that on sunny days, you can see the mainland. It is just a matter of time before your benefactors on the other side of the world either run out of money or lose interest in your squatting.
Nov 14th, 2014 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sallus- Spanish might, but not the Portuguese, majority of the portuguese I speak to don't even know or care about the Falklands. The are more concerned with Olivenza as a dispute. Go educate yourself in the real world. Opinions are interesting, but facts are better.
Nov 14th, 2014 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#151
Nov 14th, 2014 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They think that because they have not bothered to find out the facts but listen to the great “wail” of Argentina.
In addition to rune sticks and crystal balls, you now have the ability to see over the horizon some 400 kms. Your vision exceeds the limits of Argentine radar coverage over the sea..
Have you offered your services to the military. Just think of the savings they could make by using the Mark 1 eyeball instead of expensive foreign imports.
151 Sallus
Nov 14th, 2014 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It is just a matter of time before your benefactors on the other side of the world either run out of money or lose interest in your squatting.”
You really don't know much about the British do you? Once upon a time, a British government tried to sell our brother and sisters in the South Atlantic down the river. That was a mistake they only made once.
I have just received my “Tax breakdown” from Mr Osbourne. You know how much of my collected tax goes on defense? £84.
I don't know about anyone else on this forum but £84 to safe guard my Brothers and sisters in the south Atlantic AND all of the spirited debate on this forum AND all the gnashing of teeth and moaning and wailing coming from BA??
ALL this for £84??? oh and having THE BEST armed forces in all of the world, since the beginning of time, EVER.
This is better than pay-for-view off Sky. You can't get a decent movie package off Virgin for £84 and any future government of the UK can say goodbye to re-election if they even so much as think about doing something so stupid ever again.
£84??? to safeguard 3,000 citizen's?? sounds like a win to me..........
@151 Sallus
Nov 14th, 2014 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ I am sure that on sunny days, you can see the mainland.”
Is that with the unaided eye or do you think all Falkland Islanders have a massive search radar dome stuck on their head?
If they do, does that mean you believe they eat kryptonite?
If they can see the Argentine coast from that distance you want to be tying everything down because if the can see that far, they must be on Kryptonite so you won't want them farting in your direction and giving you a force 12.
Or is it your eyesight we're talking about?
Partido de pendejos. I count four responses and long ones at that for an answer to Mr. Kurze30k....Let the man speak for himself. Oh and 84 pounds gets you the 9 or 1oth best military in the world, there are great many nations that would make the UK go pound some sand and you all would be little radioactive particles within an hour.
Nov 15th, 2014 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0156 Sallus
Nov 15th, 2014 - 03:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0You sound kind of angry.
Is there a link for that, or are you just talking crap?
@154
Nov 15th, 2014 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now let's put that figure in context, £84 per year you say, well that is truly minimal as I pay £864 per year for my Sky Television package, mind you I can cope as I have 3 Pension funds. By the way the State pension at the moment is £8951 per year. Poor PHALLUS we could make dust of most countries of the world but we use it as a deterrent, that means a defence strategy. Argentina will not get the Islands it wants because it is not prepared to talk to the most affected by all this THE FALKLANDERS
Sallus...why are you always so wrong in everything you write, like your Cheif Cabinet Minister you can't help yourself but to lie, it's what you have been indoctrinated to do.
Nov 15th, 2014 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here are a few links for you to educate yourself...
http://www.businessinsider.com/11-most-powerful-militaries-in-the-world-2014-4
Now the above article when talking about the UK even acknowledges that 'Thanks to superior training and equipment, Britain could still hold an advantage over emerging powers like China, according to a leading think tank.'
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/11-most-powerful-militaries-in-the-world-2014-4
Only an opinion, but interesting reading.
or this...
http://www.businessinsider.com/11-most-powerful-militaries-in-the-world-2014-4
Oh... and no argument from you regarding Portugal not siding with Argentina, even Spain distanced themselves from you when you tried to declared a joint sovereignty strategy last year. Hows that working out for you.
And if Portugal are so against UK 'colonial assets' why do they let Gibraltar play in the Estádio Algarve for there home matches, would seem strange they side with Argentina over the Falklands yet they ignore their neighbours grievance over exactly the same scenario.
Must be bliss to live in your world of ignorance and fairy tales, where everything is the truth because you say it is.
Sallus = US Air Farce
Nov 15th, 2014 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'nuff said.
#159 - Buzzsaw/toooldto die young : “ALL this for £84??? oh and having THE BEST armed forces in all of the world, since the beginning of time, EVER.”
Nov 15th, 2014 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here is a link and a credible one at that showing the UK at No. 33 for strength/size: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/armies.htm
here is another one that states the Uk standing is sliding and that Saudi Arabia is more apt, English article to boot:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/armies.htm
And here is another showing the English behind the Indians:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/armies.htm
England is NOT the best military, ever, of all times, Second rate power at best. The Russians, Chinese, US and now the Indians and Saudis will spank your little asses.
160: Ilsen: so which am I? is it Hepatia, Stevie, FArce or Sallus?? People are allowed to voice opposition. or should I say that Isolde = Ilsen 'nuff said.
(161) Ché, Sallus...
Nov 15th, 2014 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No..., no..., no...!
Isolde is Conqueror...
Ilsen is Yankeeboy...
Clyde15 is Anglolatino...
Troy Tempest is a marionette from Stingray...
And El Think is a humble Patagonian from Chubut...
Chuckle chuckle y saludos...
#161
Nov 15th, 2014 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting articles but what it does not show is military competence ...it shows SPENDING. You confuse spending with quality.
Off course we could not match Russia, China nor India for man power. Why should we ? We are in an alliance of nations with inter dependency for defense.
You seriously think that Sudan, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Colombia, etc would pose a serious threat to the UK.
If we are so ineffectual why are you so scared of us with 4 aircraft and some troops stationed in the Falklands with no ability to invade mainland S.A.
If we have little asses then your lot are the carbuncle on the arse of mankind.
@161
Nov 15th, 2014 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hi Stevie!
Have a biscuit.
Now do sod off again, there's a poppet.
161 Sallus
Nov 15th, 2014 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“England is NOT the best military, ever, of all times, Second rate power at best”
How very true. England is NOT the best military ever. Then again, I never said it was.
The UK is though. Not in terms of spending as Clyde15 and Buzzsaw have been kind enough to point out to you. Even AFTER they have been kind enough to point this out to you, you STILL keep getting it wrong. I wonder why that is?
But in terms of everything else. We are the best. we do the impossible. Other nations take a look and say “No. It can not be done” We just do. You want proof? ok then look no further than 1982. In fact, look at Princes Gate 1980. Operation “Nimrod” and again at Operation “Barras” you will see then why we are the best.
@165
Nov 15th, 2014 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I totally concur.
Don't bother with Stevie Sallus. I already have him sussed out. Just another sock-puppet here to provoke, not discuss.
Think is just a dickhead.
And ParleSur is a toothless talking-shop.
Not a Type-45 destroyer amongst the lot of them! arf arf! (just a couple of British ones moseing about in the Carribean and South Atlantic!)
sallus
Nov 16th, 2014 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I am sure that on sunny days, you can see the mainland.”
On a clear day you can see for ever, but you need to have eyes that see!
#162 - Think/digo Pensar - are you seeing this?? Present the arrogant better than art thou English with their own English paper assessments with English rational analysis and look at them squirm. Stutter, stutter, name call, profanity.....(wipe the drool), stutter some more. Ciao Compa.
Nov 16th, 2014 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0168 Sallus
Nov 16th, 2014 - 04:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0...and Sallus doesn't just want to promote the Parlasur agenda, he wants to antagonise, too.
But that's not really the issue, is it?
Parlasur has no legal or historical basis for argument.
The reality is,
they have no military option either, as no other SA countries will dare attempt to bully the Islanders with military force, as long as the UK (English, Irish, Scots, Welsh) are there.
Just empty rhetoric from you, and Think Turnip's MercOsur Parliament
Hi Stevie! Sorry, Sallus Phallus. Hahaha!
Nov 16th, 2014 - 04:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0@156 Sallus
Nov 16th, 2014 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Oh and 84 pounds gets you the 9 or 1oth best military in the world, there are great many nations that would make the UK go pound some sand and you all would be little radioactive particles within an hour”
Most of the nations that could do that make a lot of money from the UK, so their economies would take a hit. Your' great many nations' is typical of Argentine hyperbole-and more accurately can be translated as 'a few.'
You forget that both the USA and the USSR said it would be impossible for the UK to retake the Falklands in 1982-but what happened?
And you may well be right, but I can tell you this, my £84 means that if Argentina use 'peaceful means'( as laid out in UN resolution 2065), of the type your Nazi amigos employed in 1982, they can kiss goodbye to the 4 or 5 nearest airbases to the Falklands, and this will be without the use of Nuclear weapons.
And that's not counting the FAA aircraft and Argentine offensive ships that will join the ranks of 'the disappeared'
@171
Nov 16th, 2014 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not like before we are prepared now.
168. Sallus. You accuse the British of being arrogant. Well I accuse you and your fellow Argentines of being inconsequential. You have no history or morality or intelligence. Your sole contribution to world history seems to equate to corned beef, a silly dance and the ability to pollute the South Atlantic with destroyed war machines. You are a trivial nation of wannabees. Even debating with you debases us.
Nov 16th, 2014 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0166 ilsen
Nov 16th, 2014 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Don't bother with Stevie Sallus. I already have him sussed out. ”
I'm hearing you on that one. He does appear to be unable to remember what he has posted, even when it is laid out before him.
BTW:- respect for the put down at 164, which I shall repeat here, 'cos it's worth repeating :- “Now do sod off again, there's a poppet.”
Class!
174 - Die young, you posted and I quote:
Nov 16th, 2014 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0at your post #154 “.. oh and having THE BEST armed forces in all of the world, since the beginning of time, EVER.”
at #165 you post and I quote:
“How very true. England is NOT the best military ever. Then again, I never said it was.”
So have you made up your mind? Or are you making it up as you go?? Did you say they are the BEST EVER or did you say that I never said it was. Liar.
To sum up:
Nov 17th, 2014 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Parlasur is irrelevant.
Argentina has no legal or historical case.
LATAM military is no threat and not a viable option as long as the UK has a defence force on the Islands and Royal Navy support.
Argentine propaganda Trolls like “Sallus”, in all their incarnations, can argue and antagonise all they like - it changes nothing.
In fact, Argentina, by putting the spotlight on the Falklands, has encouraged an official response and a publicity campaign.
Tourism is growing steadily as a result.
Pound sand, Sallus.
Not that anyone will notice or care.
:-)
175 Sallus
Nov 17th, 2014 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just re-read my post. Nup,
No where in it did I say that England had THE BEST armed forces in all of the world, since the beginning of time, EVER.” I did mention the word “British” a few times though....... mmmmmmm.
Then again you did say that:-
“I am sure that on sunny days, you can see the mainland.”
What?? From the Falklands???
So you must be having a little trouble with your eyesight. I hope you have a good, fully paid up, health plan. Eye surgery can be quite expensive.
@175
Nov 17th, 2014 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ Did you say they are the BEST EVER or did you say that I never said it was.”
Regardless of whether the UK forces are, or are not the best, Argentina can kiss its nearest airfields goodbye if it tries invading land belonging to the Falkland Islanders.
How soon before a fleet of 4 fighter aircraft becomes much, much more, including offensive aircraft?
You guess.
And when the RAF get the F35, it won't matter jack squit if MPA runway is taken out either, so as weak as we are, we are not going to be bullied again by Argentina's colonialist fascism.
Argentina-no Mirage F1-UK pulled strings.
Argentina-no Kfir-UK pulled strings.
Argentina-no Grippen-30% UK content so UK pilled strings.
What next, upgrading your 'Pampers' jet are you?
If this Sallus character thinks he can see the islands from the coast of TDC then he must be an “The World Is Flat” acolyte.
Nov 17th, 2014 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everyone else of course realises that the curvature of the earth limits very substantially the distance over which things can be seen, especially at near sea level.
But why am I not surprised, Stevie couldn’t work out a simple thermodynamics problem involving a fridge.
@143
Nov 17th, 2014 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's perfectly simple. Take a census.
@161
I think it was very brave of you to leave the United States Air Force, come out, and discover your true vocation.
http://www.sallusmodafeminina.com.br/
ref: link
Nov 17th, 2014 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sallus! I didn't think you had it in you. You Go Girl! I just adore that new look you're rockin' with! and the accessories are to just die for! Mwaaaah!
@176 Troy slays him with facts
@177 TOTDY just stuffs everything back into his unruly gob
@179 ChrisR defeats with logic, ( they don't like it up 'em, do they Mr Mainwaring!)
@180 HansN as always, a great comment and a great link!
and from me?
(gee, I'm just a bitch, I guess...)
:-)))))
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