An indication of interest has been forthcoming from Chile's flag carrier LAN in relation to bringing in a larger aircraft to cope with the volume of passengers and freight to the Falkland Islands. Read full article
Brazil is not that powerful in South America. It doesn't have any ability to project soft or hard power nor the ability to make other countries follow its diktats.
If no one is listening to Dilma in Brazil why would any give a sh!t what she says outside Brazil?
@1,3. But any argie aircraft will be shot down. Brazilian aircraft may find themselves surrounded by armed troops, APCs and tanks. Passengers stripped on the tarmac.
Go build a 400 mile bridge. Watch it blown apart. Who cares about SoAm heads of state? Think snipers.
If LATAM do that Chile will lose tariff preferences on flights within the Mercosul.
Chile might want to send larger aircraft because they will make MORE money out of the Falklands.
Let's face it they're not going to make up that money flying to Argentina are they?
But if the Islanders can't buy more goods, because a larger aircraft can't fly there, then the Islanders don't lose out, they just hang onto the money and get the supplies from elsewhere, (you think that South America exists in isolation from the rest of the planet).
South America isn't buying anything from the Islands,so they need Falklands money, whereas the only people buying stuff from the Islands are the Brits!
Good news for your Argy buddies-NO Mirage fighters and ALL the Argy airforce Skyhawk fighters are now GROUNDED!
Admittedly your (Brazilian)superb Tucano trainers are now armed with MACHINE GUNS to patrol Argentine borders along with ANCIENT Pucaras, as Argyland has NO operational jet fighters!
However, the RAF uses its Tucanos for training, we have Typhoons for fighters.
In 1982, there were over 100 jet fighters operational in Argentina.
Fast forward to 2016 and there are currently ZERO.
Your buddies now have a groundless claim for sovereignty, they are not prepared to explain to the Islanders what benefits there would be to the Islanders by being Argentine, and there's NO chance of beating the British military with TURBOPROP trainers, they won't even get to the Falklands!
So what if Argentina had the Falklands? The Islanders would be protected by Tucanos instead of Typhoons!
And you wonder why they prefer the protection of the RAF-not rocket science is it?
Suck it up!
And where is the Malvinas Myth claim?
Grounded-like all the Argy jets!
Perhaps if Snr Macri is nice, Mr Cameron will lend Argentina the Battle of Britain's memorial flight (1940s vintage aircraft)with Spitfires, Hurricanes and Lancasters to improve the FAA.
A larger aircraft would be good. The last two times I have been in Chile the flights to the Falklands were full. LAN is a brilliant airline. This sounds a good idea.
#3 Heads of state... more like wannabe dictators and a commie love-in except for a few notables such as Columbia, Chile and the new vice president of Argentina.
I cannot for the life of me understand how someone in government can make such a statement without at least having something like an answer as to when it will happen and with what aircraft.
Or is this just a wake up call for the bereaved families?
SKIP: WHOS THE POWER THEN IN THE SOUTH CONE?? I KNOW 2 NATIONS AND WITH MEXICO ARE STHE SUPPORTM OF LATIN AMERICA PETE BOG: THERE S A BIG EXPALNATION UK NEED TO GIVE BOUT THE ILLEGAL 1833 USURPATION APE
In # 1 Brasshead claims that In the last summit of CELAC Dilma told Bachelet that if LATAM do that Chile will lose tariff preferences on flights within the Mercosul.
Let's see some evidence, like a link to Folha de Sao Paulo or a similar reliable paper.
Why don't the RAF put on a weekly flight to Punta Arenas. If LAN wants to bale out let them. As for cargo I can see a once or twice weekly in a Hercules that should more than suffice.
If the Rg's want to go between Rio Gallegos and the island for whatever reason let them take the coach to Punta and fly from there. The same goes for those islanders who work down in Rio Grande.
BTW have they ever finished paving the road down to the boarder? Last time I was in R. Gallegos it was gravel all the way to the Immigration post... What a joke... People making the trip used heavy wire mesh across the windscreen to prevent flying stone damage...
16 are you talking about the road to nowhere constructed by cfk's chief money launderer who recently closed up shop when his employees came back from vacation? Sucked millions and millions out of the government and has suddenly just disappeared.
The sovereignty of the Falkland Islands was “settled” a generation ago, a Labour shadow cabinet minister has said despite her leader calling for a new “dialogue” with Argentina on the matter.
Angela Eagle, the shadow business minister, dismissed the recent suggestion from Jeremy Corbyn that the islands’ status could change.
@12 Shitforbrains
THERE S A BIG EXPALNATION UK NEED TO GIVE BOUT THE ILLEGAL 1833 USURPATION APE
Read the history stored in your country dipshit.
1/-The UPs were informed by the British Consul in BA that Britain's claim had not lapsed, so whilst we were OK with Vernet's civilian settlement (Vernet asked the British permission to be in the Falklands), after you shipped in mutinous convicts we objected-but you were given a warning you chose to ignore (like the warning in 1982 that any Argentine forces anywhere near the British taskforce was liable to be attacked-so your idiot Galteiri like your countrymen in 1833, ignored British warning sand then were surprised when the Belgrano was attacked-we did warn you!)
When the Brits arrived in Port Louis, non of the settlers were asked to leave-most of them from South Anerica chose to stay-Onslow gave them money-BA gave them sod all.
Your mate Pinedo wanted to resist but had a slight problem-most of his sailors were born in Britain so refused to resist.
Kind of not surprising-which I assume is why Sandy Woodward didn't equip the taskforce in 1982 with 80% Argentine sailors knowing that at the other end they weren't likely to want to fight other Argentines.
Bit stupid manning your ships with British sailors in 1833, wasn't it?
No South American sailors available?
The explanation is simple.
We told you we still claimed the Falklands (from 1690).
You (like 1982) ignored warnings.
We exercised our claim and still let the civilians (mostly South American)that wanted to say, remain on the Islands.
It's used by a mix of people: locals, business travellers and tourists. It carries more civilians than the MOD service does. All through summer it is full and a lot of people and freight can't get on. A larger aircraft is required and so is a second flight. Some work has to be done to the ground facilities before an A321 full of pax can comfortably arrive and depart in a one hour turn around though. The MoD aircraft carries more pax but has a 20 hour turnaround. The Hi Fly service also carries more pax and has a long turnaround.
It would take a lot of planes to evacuate the illegal genocidial squatter Spaniards from Patagonia back to Spain but it could be done. Think of the space created
Ah, the memories of flying around in Hercs. What remarkable aeroplanes. I've landed on and taken off from some very challenging airstrips in them over the years and I have several memories of almost crying with joy at the sight of one swooping down to get me out of various places I'd rather not be.
These days our more discerning traveller demands the aircraft type starts with an A or a B.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIn the last summit of CELAC Dilma told Bachelet that if LATAM do that Chile will lose tariff preferences on flights within the Mercosul.
Jan 30th, 2016 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0You made your choices! Learn to live with the downside of it.
Celac and anything else dead hugo dreamed up have absolutely no power anywhere. What the hell does it even stand for?
Jan 30th, 2016 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do not agree with you. The CELAC summit brought together more heads of state than any OAS meeting throughout its existence.
Jan 30th, 2016 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That alone is proof enough of the importance of an event.
Imagine how many bridges began to be built ...
Dilma said no such thing.
Jan 30th, 2016 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brazil is not that powerful in South America. It doesn't have any ability to project soft or hard power nor the ability to make other countries follow its diktats.
If no one is listening to Dilma in Brazil why would any give a sh!t what she says outside Brazil?
@1,3. But any argie aircraft will be shot down. Brazilian aircraft may find themselves surrounded by armed troops, APCs and tanks. Passengers stripped on the tarmac.
Jan 30th, 2016 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Go build a 400 mile bridge. Watch it blown apart. Who cares about SoAm heads of state? Think snipers.
Grow up Brasso and try and live in the real world.
Jan 30th, 2016 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1
Jan 30th, 2016 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If LATAM do that Chile will lose tariff preferences on flights within the Mercosul.
Chile might want to send larger aircraft because they will make MORE money out of the Falklands.
Let's face it they're not going to make up that money flying to Argentina are they?
But if the Islanders can't buy more goods, because a larger aircraft can't fly there, then the Islanders don't lose out, they just hang onto the money and get the supplies from elsewhere, (you think that South America exists in isolation from the rest of the planet).
South America isn't buying anything from the Islands,so they need Falklands money, whereas the only people buying stuff from the Islands are the Brits!
Good news for your Argy buddies-NO Mirage fighters and ALL the Argy airforce Skyhawk fighters are now GROUNDED!
Admittedly your (Brazilian)superb Tucano trainers are now armed with MACHINE GUNS to patrol Argentine borders along with ANCIENT Pucaras, as Argyland has NO operational jet fighters!
However, the RAF uses its Tucanos for training, we have Typhoons for fighters.
In 1982, there were over 100 jet fighters operational in Argentina.
Fast forward to 2016 and there are currently ZERO.
Your buddies now have a groundless claim for sovereignty, they are not prepared to explain to the Islanders what benefits there would be to the Islanders by being Argentine, and there's NO chance of beating the British military with TURBOPROP trainers, they won't even get to the Falklands!
So what if Argentina had the Falklands? The Islanders would be protected by Tucanos instead of Typhoons!
And you wonder why they prefer the protection of the RAF-not rocket science is it?
Suck it up!
And where is the Malvinas Myth claim?
Grounded-like all the Argy jets!
Perhaps if Snr Macri is nice, Mr Cameron will lend Argentina the Battle of Britain's memorial flight (1940s vintage aircraft)with Spitfires, Hurricanes and Lancasters to improve the FAA.
A larger aircraft would be good. The last two times I have been in Chile the flights to the Falklands were full. LAN is a brilliant airline. This sounds a good idea.
Jan 30th, 2016 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Needless stops at R. Gallegos should be eliminated.
Jan 30th, 2016 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
#3 Heads of state... more like wannabe dictators and a commie love-in except for a few notables such as Columbia, Chile and the new vice president of Argentina.
Jan 30th, 2016 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I cannot for the life of me understand how someone in government can make such a statement without at least having something like an answer as to when it will happen and with what aircraft.
Jan 30th, 2016 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or is this just a wake up call for the bereaved families?
SKIP: WHOS THE POWER THEN IN THE SOUTH CONE?? I KNOW 2 NATIONS AND WITH MEXICO ARE STHE SUPPORTM OF LATIN AMERICA PETE BOG: THERE S A BIG EXPALNATION UK NEED TO GIVE BOUT THE ILLEGAL 1833 USURPATION APE
Jan 30th, 2016 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A CELAC is a vegetable.
Jan 30th, 2016 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0George'sAnus - you remain a complete retard. There was no usurpation in 1833 - that is an Argie myth. If anyone lost anything, it was Spain. :-)
In # 1 Brasshead claims that In the last summit of CELAC Dilma told Bachelet that if LATAM do that Chile will lose tariff preferences on flights within the Mercosul.
Jan 31st, 2016 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let's see some evidence, like a link to Folha de Sao Paulo or a similar reliable paper.
Poor brasileidiot wrote: Dilma told Bachelet that if LATAM do that Chile will lose tariff preferences on flights within the Mercosul.”
Jan 31st, 2016 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor brazileidiot tell us why is it called LATAM (LAN + TAM)?
Brazilian TAM will lose tariff preferences on flights within the Mercosul too, you poor brazileidiot.
Why don't the RAF put on a weekly flight to Punta Arenas. If LAN wants to bale out let them. As for cargo I can see a once or twice weekly in a Hercules that should more than suffice.
Jan 31st, 2016 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0If the Rg's want to go between Rio Gallegos and the island for whatever reason let them take the coach to Punta and fly from there. The same goes for those islanders who work down in Rio Grande.
BTW have they ever finished paving the road down to the boarder? Last time I was in R. Gallegos it was gravel all the way to the Immigration post... What a joke... People making the trip used heavy wire mesh across the windscreen to prevent flying stone damage...
16 are you talking about the road to nowhere constructed by cfk's chief money launderer who recently closed up shop when his employees came back from vacation? Sucked millions and millions out of the government and has suddenly just disappeared.
Jan 31st, 2016 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The sovereignty of the Falkland Islands was “settled” a generation ago, a Labour shadow cabinet minister has said despite her leader calling for a new “dialogue” with Argentina on the matter.
Jan 31st, 2016 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Angela Eagle, the shadow business minister, dismissed the recent suggestion from Jeremy Corbyn that the islands’ status could change.
@12 Shitforbrains
Jan 31st, 2016 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THERE S A BIG EXPALNATION UK NEED TO GIVE BOUT THE ILLEGAL 1833 USURPATION APE
Read the history stored in your country dipshit.
1/-The UPs were informed by the British Consul in BA that Britain's claim had not lapsed, so whilst we were OK with Vernet's civilian settlement (Vernet asked the British permission to be in the Falklands), after you shipped in mutinous convicts we objected-but you were given a warning you chose to ignore (like the warning in 1982 that any Argentine forces anywhere near the British taskforce was liable to be attacked-so your idiot Galteiri like your countrymen in 1833, ignored British warning sand then were surprised when the Belgrano was attacked-we did warn you!)
When the Brits arrived in Port Louis, non of the settlers were asked to leave-most of them from South Anerica chose to stay-Onslow gave them money-BA gave them sod all.
Your mate Pinedo wanted to resist but had a slight problem-most of his sailors were born in Britain so refused to resist.
Kind of not surprising-which I assume is why Sandy Woodward didn't equip the taskforce in 1982 with 80% Argentine sailors knowing that at the other end they weren't likely to want to fight other Argentines.
Bit stupid manning your ships with British sailors in 1833, wasn't it?
No South American sailors available?
The explanation is simple.
We told you we still claimed the Falklands (from 1690).
You (like 1982) ignored warnings.
We exercised our claim and still let the civilians (mostly South American)that wanted to say, remain on the Islands.
What do you not understand about that?
Who actually uses this plane, some say it has been packed,
Jan 31st, 2016 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0are they all islanders or south Americans.
just interested.
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Jan 31st, 2016 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's used by a mix of people: locals, business travellers and tourists. It carries more civilians than the MOD service does. All through summer it is full and a lot of people and freight can't get on. A larger aircraft is required and so is a second flight. Some work has to be done to the ground facilities before an A321 full of pax can comfortably arrive and depart in a one hour turn around though. The MoD aircraft carries more pax but has a 20 hour turnaround. The Hi Fly service also carries more pax and has a long turnaround.
It is a good idea .. LAN should get a larger plane to evacuate 3,000 illegal squatters in south america .. !!
Jan 31st, 2016 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It would take a lot of planes to evacuate the illegal genocidial squatter Spaniards from Patagonia back to Spain but it could be done. Think of the space created
Feb 01st, 2016 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0@22
Feb 01st, 2016 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0LAN should get a larger plane to evacuate 3,000 illegal squatters in south america .. !!
But that won't be for a long time as many plane loads will be needed to evacuate the 40 million illegal squatters from Argentina to Europe first.
I am sure Spain will welcome them back with open arms.
21 Jo Bloggs
Feb 01st, 2016 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0thanks jo,
cant they acquire any of the C130s we are taking out of service,
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Feb 01st, 2016 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah, the memories of flying around in Hercs. What remarkable aeroplanes. I've landed on and taken off from some very challenging airstrips in them over the years and I have several memories of almost crying with joy at the sight of one swooping down to get me out of various places I'd rather not be.
These days our more discerning traveller demands the aircraft type starts with an A or a B.
LORTONTO:: WELCOME TO BS, IF YOU GOT SOME BALLS, COME HERE I WILL SHOW YOU OUR COLINIAL ARCHIVE, TONTITO.
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Post Conflict
Feb 02nd, 2016 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice story and pictures of Stanley airport before and after the war.
Black Buck and the Runways of the 1982 Falkland Islands Conflict
http://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/black-buck-runways-1982-falkland-islands-conflict/
@27
Feb 03rd, 2016 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0 I WILL SHOW YOU OUR COLINIAL ARCHIVE
Such as Pinedo's ship manifests and records?
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