Even when Brazilian ex president Lula da Silva was described as facing Judge Sergio Moro's Friday jailing decision calmly, the big question now is what follows for the presidential candidate and the Workers Party chances ahead of the coming October presidential election. Read full article
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Apr 06th, 2018 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JvgiE1zqJ5c/WnE0O3rzx4I/AAAAAAAAQlk/Iy7H3a9RmhA5XZGqV9QT8Yi4t7xgJXMQQCK4BGAYYCw/s400/Charge2018-Vendo_Triplex.jpg
TWIMC...
Apr 06th, 2018 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse -1As with the farcical arrests of a lot of oppositors last year in Argentina..., most of whom are again free..., I THINK the arrest of Ex President Lula has all the potential for become the inflexion point to kick the NeoCons and the Military back into place...
Not the end... just a nuevo amanecer...
Fuerza Lula...
How're they going to do that? Lula's been convicted, it's not as easy for him to get out again.
Apr 06th, 2018 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh I don't know, is there justice in Latam, depends who you support I suppose.
Apr 06th, 2018 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Ever heard the name Mandela..., boy...?
Apr 06th, 2018 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Yes, I have. One day my primary school teacher told the class he had just got out of prison. I didn't understand who he was or why it was important, but I remember because she told us that she was younger than we were when he went to jail.
Apr 06th, 2018 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know who he is now, but I don't think Lula can wait 27 years.
LULA PRESIDENTE
Apr 06th, 2018 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -127 years...?
Apr 06th, 2018 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -1The Times they are a Changin'..., boy...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e7qQ6_RV4VQ
Freaking bold move e is pulling just now..., the dear Lula...
I don't see what he's doing that's so bold. I don't see what he can do; if his supporters resort to serious violence then the military could get involved.
Apr 06th, 2018 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even when Brazilian ex president Lula da Silva was described as facing Judge Sergio Moro's Friday jailing decision calmly,.... what a bloody joke......if you call define calmly as frothing at the mouth and alternating violent gestures with tears, then yes, calmly...LOL.
Apr 06th, 2018 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Knowing Brazil and it's politicians, can't help but agree that Lula might not serve his whole sentence.....when the water starts lapping at their bums, Congress, as well as the Petista judges in the STF, will do all they can to change the laws, in order to avoid going to prison themselves.....the name of the game is 'impunity', at all costs.
Meanwhile, the only position the bearded toad can aspire to, is president of the inmates union....
The PT leadership (Gleisi Hoffman, the one who threatened bloodshed on the streets if Lula is jailed, and Lindbergh Faria, the ex-commie student leader) is desperate, and is planning all sorts of marches and concentrations in SBCampo, to try to obstruct the Feds in carrying out the arrest warrant. Should be interesting to see their reaction when the time comes - today, 5 pm.
They better control themselves...
Apr 06th, 2018 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Mllions willbe watching them...
RUPTLY LIVE: Sao Paulo...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BkEUAU37nvs
Being imprisoned [unlikely] or not - in 2'018 or later - Lulla stands a reasonably good chance of being a President. Thanx to the miserably ignorant majority of the brainwashed masses.
Apr 06th, 2018 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Apart from being incompetent, Lula was a conman who accepted bribes. If he is not punished, it would be a signal that dishonesty is legal in Brazil.
Apr 07th, 2018 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +2As for the Argi K krooks that were recently released, it's not that they are innocent, it's that they presumably can not flee the country before their trial.
@viejopatagon:
Apr 07th, 2018 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +1You seem to be new around here!
Haven't you heard [until today] that corruption is well accepted by the population and also is constitutionally legal?
REF:
https://i0.wp.com/www.humorpolitico.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Aecio-chorando.jpg?resize=580%2C420&ssl=1
@ :o))
Apr 07th, 2018 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope that one is prophetic for all the corrupt who are cheering Lula's arrest today...
@DT:
Apr 07th, 2018 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Traditionally AND Culturally; the Corrupt are DESTINED to RULE Brazil.
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http://obviousmag.org/mulher_cultura_plural/assets_c/2015/03/corrupcao-thumb-600x368-98405.jpg
That also is depressingly accurate, and I can't say I'm any better.
Apr 07th, 2018 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is something freaking sinister on the way the Brazilian establishment has been moving its pieces across the board in order to achieve its goals under some pretense of legality--from the deposition of Dilma Rousseff until they reached their ultimate target: Lula da Silva.
Apr 08th, 2018 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse -4The strategy that used the tanks and troops on the streets to depose unwanted individuals from power and their replacement by loyal servants, at least, was upfront and did not hide its authoritarian character--the proposition to the citizens was, either accept the changes or die.
Now, when the same shadowy interests push aside those who dared to challenge the status quo--only, they do it under a thinly disguised appearance of legality. The have the mainstream media to help them to create a new, fabricated normality to subdue the majorities.
The former way was tragic and evil; the current one is not less tragic in its effects, and not less efficient--the end goal remains the same.
@EM
Apr 08th, 2018 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please, would you mind answering JB's question here on the evidence against Lula:
http://en.mercopress.com/2018/04/06/lula-resists-arrest-deadline-waiting-for-last-minute-habeas-corpus-filed-at-an-appeals-court/comments#comment486666
You are right that I am forming my opinion based on the news reports, but that's the only option I have. I can't examine the evidence for myself because I can't read Portuguese. I know you believe the prosecution was designed to stop Lula running, but what specifically do you think is wrong/faked/exaggerated in Moro's case?
@DT
Apr 08th, 2018 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0If I have the liberty to reply REF: Evidence against Lulla:
@DT: REF: Were there witnesses other than L. Pinheiro
In one of the confessions of Lulla; he had said that Marisa went to the triplex to say that she is not [or no more] interested in the triplex.
Do you really believe that she - a WIFE of the Then President - needed to MEET personally to say NO?
During +/- 15 years of ruling; ALL the Topmost PT Executives were involved in a series of the scandals after scandals [MANY of them are locked behind the bars (and now enjoying Lulla's Company in the same prison) and Lulla repeatedly confessed that he knew NOTHING. We DO believe in HIM. DON'T WE?
During those 15 years, ALL the huge investments [national AND Int'l. (exactly in the countries of ill-repute AND notorious for corruption - a mere coincidence, according to you?)] of Petrobras & BNDS incurred not just heavy losses but TOTAL losses. And NOBODY - including Lulla - KNEW & nobody was even responsible! Of course, we believe in THIS fairy tail too!
During the last election, throughout the campaign, PT was BOASTING of the Economic Progress (when the masses were actually losing jobs)! But on the very next day after the election, Dilma very calmly announced the Economic Crisis. VERY CONVENIENT, wasn't it?
Pl. argue that there was NO 100% Confirmed Proof. Does ANYONE REALLY NEED ONE?
Pl. argue that he was/is very popular! But amongst WHO - what exactly is the Level of Education/Knowledge of these DEVOTEES?
REF:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-51hcAIeFWxY/Ti2sHOIOemI/AAAAAAAAAFk/abZA4QwvdXg/s1600/charge+pol%25C3%25ADtica.jpg
@DT
Apr 10th, 2018 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ryr above post to EM,
@EM Please, would you mind answering JB's question here on the evidence against Lula:
http://en.mercopress.com/2018/04/06/lula-resists-arrest-deadline-waiting-for-last-minute-habeas-corpus-filed-at-an-appeals-court/comments#comment486666
Don't bother. EM will not reply....he can't, at least not honestly.
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