Former Brazilian president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva told Folha de Sao Paulo early Friday that he has decided not to turn himself at the Federal Police in Curitiba where he must serve a 12-year prison sentence for corruption, as ordered by judge Sergio Moro. Read full article
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Imprisoned [only for the namesake] or not; while the soap opera unfolds; watch him make a fool of The System to entertain the world. The Govt. of course will have a Very Logical Face-Saving Legal Explanation for NOT imprisoning him to complete the entire sentence.Apr 06th, 2018 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
”Make a fool of The System to entertain...?Apr 07th, 2018 - 04:57 am - Link - Report abuse -1
Who says Lula should make things easy for judge Moro?
Lula y Brazil--un solo corazón.
@EMApr 07th, 2018 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse +1
REF: watch him make .................to entertain the world:
Now, they are finding Legal Excuses for NOT keeping him behind the bars! DAMN IT! :o)))):
I had already mentioned that they really can't AFFORD to keep a corrupt behid bars for too long [or something to the effect]; SIMPLY because it will be THEIR turn NEXT!
I hate to say: I told you so. But I DID tell you SO, didn't I?
@EMApr 07th, 2018 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
Who says Lula should make things easy for judge Moro?
I think you've missed the point....Lula's drama is not making things 'difficult' for Moro, much to the contrary....by trying to play to his ever-decreasing following in SBCampo, Lula is only managing to shoot himself in the foot and complicate his own situation.....but I can fully understand his motives...main one : try to hang on to his last base of supporters before being conducted (peacefully) to jail, and try to become a martyr.
Reekie, am going to make a statement and then, ask you ONE question, ok ?
Statement : The triplex in Guaruja was a gift to Lula, from OAS, in exchange of “special” favours, granted during the former’s presidency to the latter (overpriced PB contracts, laced with bribes) and re which Lula never got to take possession, in his name, or in that of a front man (a “laranja”, most likely a “good friend of his”), because in Oct/Nov 2014, Marisa Leticia was obliged to go public, days after the “lavajato” had pinpointed the triplex as a bribe, denied by Lula, despite the fact that during the first 9 months of 2014, OAS president, Leo Pinheiro (now encarcerated) had attended every personal whim of the First Lady, in reforming and decorating the apartment – (with a gourmet kitchen identical to that of the Atibaia country home, which Lula claims belongs to good friend of his, despite the fact that his ‘good friend’ put foot in the home only once or twice, while Lula used it hundreds of times) - as proved by photos and records of her frequent ‘hands-on’ supervision of the requested expensive alterations (totally out of the ordinary for ANY normal real-estate transaction - pool, private elevator, gourmet kitchen, fully furnished etc).
Question: What in the above statement do YOU know to be a lie, or fabricated evidence, or a ‘mistake of fact’ (as your buddy in Canada likes to describe his mistakes), or which, in your opinion don’t compromise Lula in the least ??
@JBApr 08th, 2018 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Are there photos online of the kitchen in the Triplex, the kitchens in other flats in the same block for comparison, and the kitchen in the Atibaia house?
And can we see these photos and records of Marisa Leticia's 'hands-on' supervision of the alterations? Who provided them and who took the photos? Were there witnesses other than Leo Pinheiro?
@DT:Apr 08th, 2018 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
REF: Were there witnesses other than Leo Pinheiro
In one of the confessions of Lulla; he had said that Marisa went to the triplex to say that she is not [or no more] interested in the triplex.
Do you really believe that she - a WIFE of the Then President - needed to MEET personally to say NO?
During +/- 15 years of ruling; ALL the Topmost PT Executives were involved in a series of the scandals after scandals [MANY of them are locked behind the bars (and now enjoying Lulla's Company in the same prison) and Lulla repeatedly confessed that he knew NOTHING. We DO believe in HIM. DON'T WE?
During those 15 years, ALL the huge investments [national AND Int'l. (exactly in the countries of ill-repute AND notorious for corruption - a mere coincidence, according to you?)] of Petrobras & BNDS incurred not just heavy losses but TOTAL losses. And NOBODY - including Lulla - KNEW & nobody was even responsible! Of course, we believe in THIS fairy tail too!
During the last election, throughout the campaign, PT was BOASTING of the Economic Progress (when the masses were actually losing jobs)! But on the very next day after the election, Dilma very calmly announced the Economic Crisis. VERY CONVENIENT, wasn't it?
Pl. argue that there was NO 100% Confirmed Proof. Does ANYONE REALLY NEED ONE?
Pl. argue that he was/is very popular! But amongst WHO - what exactly is the Level of Education/Knowledge of these DEVOTEES?
@DTApr 08th, 2018 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Reekie to answer the above question.....if answered honestly it would shatter his blind belief in Lula's innocence...can't really understand Reekie's attitude, given he seems to be a fairly reasonable guy.....but I suppose being reasonable does not necessarily mean he isn't naive...
Regarding the kitchens at both the triplex and the home in Atibaia, have not seen pictures of either. Am basing myself on reports in the news, in which the sales manager of the company that installed them, when called to testify (by Moro), confirmed the order for two identical kitchens (one in March, the other in Oct 2014), paid for by OAS, to be installed in two different locations, one in apartment 164A of the Solaris Condo -the triplex, and the other in the home in Aibaia.
The photo presented, in which ML is supposedly checking the progress, was taken at the triplex, where besides ML, Leo Pinheiro and an OAS engineer appear...it was taken presumably by an OAS employee who accompanied LP, but probably not privy to any conversation - given that the photo was taken from the external hallway, looking into the apartment. There is another photo where Lula appears (in a red shirt), talking to Leo Pinheiro (back to the photo) when he went to do the last inspection of the work done, and to receive the keys. These photos were shown all over the newsreels (google fotos mostram visita do Lula a triplex em Guarujá), besides the various visits being confirmed in testimony (to Moro) by the then janitor of the building (who was sacked the moment Lula learned he had opened his mouth, after being told to forget the visits ever happened). He also mentioned that when either ML or Lula visited the apartment, Lula's security would commandeer the elevator and let none of the residents in it...reason why Lula demanded to have the private elevator installed.
@DT & @JB:Apr 09th, 2018 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Oh, and I almost forgot!
REF: The nuclear plant/s for electricity and for the other noble uses. After spending +/- 3B or so; the electricity generated could not even re-charge any smartphone so far. But the masses wouldn't know that, would they?
@JBApr 10th, 2018 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Nice try, JB. Unfortunately, this is not a place where you dictate your own terms. I have challenged you on your opinions and on your use of the worst possible gossip to tarnish Marielle Franco and Lula da Silva and will keep doing the same.
@EMApr 10th, 2018 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Nice try, Reekie. who is dictating terms ? I made a statement and then asked you to answer it...to poke holes in if, if you could....No obligation on your part, but your silence says more than a 1000 words. Instead of defending Lula with sound reasoning, you attack JB ?
What opinions of mine have you challenged and that I may not have answered. Do me a favour and please point them out and I will reply....but don't keep on raising the same old socialist BS about Lula's innocence....must admit I'm getting tired of trying to educate you....but it is your choice to remain ignorant.
And you keep on repeating the same crap about Marille Franco ...what gossip did I use to 'tarnish” Marielle Franco ? It wasn't 'gossip'.....I said nothing that wasn't already all over the news (as a rumour), but later the source was discovered, and confirmed as being a tweet by a judge who overstepped the mark... I never said Marielle WAS backed by Rio's organized crime in the favelas, but simply said there were rumours of it... rumours spread by the a/m judge.
Reekie, you always run from reasonable debate, or exchange of ideas...is it because you can't defend your opinions ? are they only representative of your wishful thinking ?
@EM:Apr 14th, 2018 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Have you really joined the PT & the Landless + Roofless [crooked] Movements? I'm sorry to suspect THAT! May The God, your family, friends, relatives, neighbourhood, etc. have at least sufficient mercy on you!
@:o))Apr 14th, 2018 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Não adianta. Reekie has already changed his name to Enrique Lulla Massot. Says everything we need to know about him. Cegueira é uma M****.