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Lula in prison in Curitiba. Fiery-emotional speech to supporters before turning in
Brazil's leftist icon Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva turned himself in Saturday to start a 12-year sentence for corruption after a chaotic attempt by supporters to stop him from surrendering. Surrounded by bodyguards, Lula had to push through a seething throng of supporters to get into a police vehicle outside the metalworkers' union building in Sao Bernardo do Campo, where he had been holed up for two days and nights. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesNY TIMES: “Brazil Workers’ Party, Leaders ‘Intoxicated by Power,’ Falls From Grace”:
Apr 08th, 2018 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +1https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/13/world/americas/brazil-workers-party-dilma-rousseff-impeachment-vote.html
A man who through his tenor built 18 universities, which is why 54 millions voted for him. Giving him 85% of the popular vote.
Apr 08th, 2018 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Brazil is a country of the future... and always will be.” ...Charles de Gaulle...
Apr 08th, 2018 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +1@Chicureo:
Apr 08th, 2018 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +1REF:“Brazil is a country of the future... & always will be.”
Present-Past-Present-Past REF:
https://radioloandafm.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/bandeira-brasil1.jpg
Amazing strength and incredible courage, that of a 72-year-old speaking for almost an hour before going to turn himself in--but not without once more defying the judge who sentenced him to come up with proof--any proof--of his “guilt.”
Apr 09th, 2018 - 04:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Moro, on the other hand, does not consider proof is necessary; he has conviction and that is good enough.
Brazilians, however, know the difference between the mob of crawling characters who won't even reach Lula's ankles but are decided to gang together to topple the giant.
They are keeping guard near their leader day and night.
Nobody knows the surprises that tomorrow will bring.
@Chicureo & :o))
Apr 09th, 2018 - 05:13 am - Link - Report abuse +1Interesting to note : when Lula eventually emerged from the metalworker union's building, and was walking towards the sound-truck, he stumbled; after he climbed on to the truck, it was easy to see he was carrying a bottle of water, and started to take a few gulps from it. By the middle of his 55 minute rant, he was moving erratically, and was unsteady on his feet. Gleisi Hoffmann, who was watching him, circled him and discretely took a sniff of his breath, turning immediately to Dilma and saying “cachaça”...a bit later, when he finished his rant, a few people, including Hoffmann, tried to take the water bottle (containing the “cachaça”) away from him, but he wasn't about to give it up...he then disappeared into the back of the truck....at least he spent his last day of freedom doing what he liked best....to get drunk...or rather, second best, because what he really liked, was to steal and to lie.
During his drunken rant, he was so far gone, that he actually blurted out, “if I could, I wouldn't surrender myself”....well, that was a really profound statement, specially after having declared, time and time again, in the weeks previous to that fateful day (5th April, that he would surrender himself immediately, and anywhere Moro designated if his appeals were rejected by the STJ and the STF.
I wonder if they'll let him keep a few bottles of “51” in his cell ? you know, only for visitors...
@JB:
Apr 09th, 2018 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0In “THAT” case/state; NY TIMES:
“Brazil Workers’ Party, Leaders ‘Intoxicated by Power AND 51,’ STUMBLES From Grace”:
REF: EXAME: “Mesmo com Lula preso, PT define estratégias para manter sua candidatura”:
https://exame.abril.com.br/brasil/mesmo-com-lula-preso-pt-define-estrategias-para-manter-sua-candidatura/
Prison cell? It's better than where Assange is living and he hasn't been convicted yet.
Apr 09th, 2018 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0@golfcronie:
Apr 09th, 2018 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What else do you expect in a country where the political parties enrol the corrupt and these crooks are encouraged by a ruling party to be the candidates?
AND BESIDES:
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-o5-J4V4cygw/WWlj2A-FwOI/AAAAAAAASdQ/oHSSMvAqipwJWrlSFZrrzuDtJ98rP00QwCLcBGAs/s400/coxinha%2Baloprado.jpg
@JB
Apr 09th, 2018 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How typical of trolls who don't have relevant arguments with which attack their targets.
Can't speak to the man's record during two terms as president? No problem! Let's take something else. Anything useful for the purpose. So what Jack found? Lula was drinking alcohol during his speech before turning himself in to police!!!
I am stunned by the finding. Certainly, Jack is a master of finding the juicy secrets of the rich and the powerful. Just a few days ago, Jack found out that an election campaign of activist Marielle Franco, coldly and professionally executed, “would have been funded by a gang,” a rumour spread by the scum of Internet and quickly revealed as a lie.
By the way, have you noticed that the responsibles for Marielle's assassination haven't been found, even less arrested? Ever heard about any police action to find those who shot Lula's caravan? Noticed any reaction about the generals who threatened with a military coup if the Supreme Tribunal had granted freedom to Lula? I did not think so.
Decidedly, some individuals will do anything to foster their cause...whatever Jack's cause is.
@JB
Apr 09th, 2018 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I presume what you described is all on video, then? On youtube?
@EM:
Apr 09th, 2018 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse +1REF: “Decidedly, some individuals will do anything to foster their cause”:
TRUE!
Thanx for agreeing with me! Besides the example which you mentioned [regarding Marielle]; the same is true in the case of the supposed innocence of Lulla.
@EM
Apr 09th, 2018 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“whatever Jack's cause is”
You sound ridiculous. Do you think he's part of some sinister plot? Not everyone shares your opinion of Lula or of what is good for Brazil. And Jack has spoken of Lula's record as president many times.
@JB
I found a video supposedly of Lula's last speech before going to jail, and watched some of it. I didn't see him drink anything, or holding a bottle.
BBC: “Brazil's Lula still has power to influence politics”:
Apr 10th, 2018 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-43703244
So when will everything be normal, forgotten & forgiven [by the fellow crooks]; to start stealing afresh?
Will BEFORE the election be too LATE already?
@EM
Apr 10th, 2018 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are obviously too thick to discover the truth by yourself, so please open the three videos below, and then tell me what you think…you might even be ‘stunned’. Marielle Franco, again ??? but you’re right, a rumour spread by the scum of Internet and quickly revealed as a lie…a rumor NOT spread by me, until all over the news…the fact her murderers haven’t been found, is no surprise, but I’ll still put my money on the ‘militias’ (cops and ex-cops, who didn’t like her ).
1st video : Gleisi sniffing Lula’s breath (7th April), and saying ‘cachaça’
https://youtu.be/jqYuZA3hV0U
2nd video : Lula with his bottle of cachaça (7th April): between 13 and 30 secs, before a guy snatches the bottle from him
https://youtu.be/jqYuZA3hV0U
3rd video : on another occasion, Lula admitting the ‘Triprex’ is his …
https://youtu.be/jqYuZA3hV0U
“Whatever Jack’s cause is”....I don’t have a cause, just a desire to all the crooked Brazilian politicians behind bars, WHOEVER they may be, even a 9-fingered toad that decided he’d line his own pockets. Well Reekie, enjoy the images of your crazed, drunk hero.
JB, Mercopress made all your links the same. I think the second video you linked may have followed the first one in youtube, but I'd like to see the third one if you could post it again.
Apr 11th, 2018 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@DT
Apr 11th, 2018 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Impressive how MP manages to screw things up...here they go, again.
1st video : Gleisi sniffing Lula’s breath (7th April), and saying ‘cachaça’
https://youtu.be/jqYuZA3hV0U
2nd video : Lula with his bottle of cachaça (7th April): between 13 and 30 secs, before a guy snatches the bottle from him
https://youtu.be/jqYuZA3hV0U
3rd video : on another occasion, Lula admitting the ‘Triprex’ is his …
https://youtu.be/jqYuZA3hV0U
Re-checked before sending, all 3 are different...
That won't work; it's a bug in Mercopress. The only way to put more than one link in a comment is to break it somehow, eg remove the 'https://' from the front and then it will appear as text. Like so:
Apr 11th, 2018 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://youtu.be/jqYuZA3hV0U
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RmKD4axXJE
To be honest, if I had to go to jail for 12 years I might want a drink on my last day of freedom, too...
@DT
Apr 11th, 2018 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Here it is, alone: Lula saying the “TripRex” is his (should be 'tripLex', but he can't pronounce it correctly).
https://youtu.be/uBmfjC5w8pc
I'd drink too, but Lula is known for getting drunk before speaking at political rallys (and in his home)...there are other videos circulating in which it is easy to see by his diction and body movements , that he's had too much.
What did I say about Reekie ? I waste my time, showing him where to access the photos, the youtube links and he keeps on insisting Lula is innocent....he is a total waste of time.
REF: “Lula in prison in Curitiba”:
Apr 13th, 2018 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +1One thing surely IS admirable - the Highly Efficient Legal System:
https://upload.portalr3.com.br/2018/01/20180105-pf-722x410.jpg
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