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Falklands: “Commercial and cultural office” in Stanley to promote Argentina, suggests ex diplomat

Tuesday, April 24th 2018 - 23:21 UTC
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The Falklands population is crucial for any solution to the Argentine claim over the Islands given their overwhelming support from British public opinion (and political system), and its full integration with the 53-nation Commonwealth, according to Argentine ex diplomat Jorge Lidio Viñuela, considered an expert and militant on the issue of South Atlantic insular claims. Read full article

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  • Roger Lorton

    Jorge Lidio Viñuela appears to live in a surreal world. The people of the Falklands may one day decide upon independence, but it is not up to the 'Crown.'

    This article would seem to have come from this Spanish language one -

    https://observatoriomalvinassite.wordpress.com/2018/04/20/la-independencia-de-las-malvinas/

    Apr 25th, 2018 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse +6
  • kelperabout

    Why is it that everyone else seems to have the solution to the Falkland Islands dispute totally ignoring the wishes of the Islanders.

    We would not survive independence status because as soon as that was declared Argentina would once again invade us and unless we had strong military support from Countries who believed in our independence wishes , Argentina would colonise us and that gets back to the precise issues we are stuck in today. Colonization.

    Argentina believes we are a colony of Great Britain and they are the ones wanting Britain to hand over what they say is a place that Britain has colonised. Yet Argentina want to do the same.

    The only solution to the whole situation would be for Argentina to drop this ridiculous claim to our Country and let the Falkland Islanders live the life of their choosing, Until then we Islanders will never have relations with them on the level that they so want because we, the Falkland Island people know exactly what Argentina wants, It is the huge financial wealth that we have surrounding us and until the day comes when we have exploited that wealth Argentin will always be doing everything they can to get their hands on it. As a people we do not matter to them and they have demonstrated that for many years.We do not exist in their eyes. We chose a British way of life and it is our right to be able to live that life without fear or pressure from any other Country in the world.
    It is time to stop the we have the solution arguments and just let us the inhabitants decide the path we want to take. End off.

    Apr 25th, 2018 - 07:07 am - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Room101

    People not from the Falklands can waffle all they want: it is the Islanders who decide.

    Apr 25th, 2018 - 07:46 am - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Brit Bob

    Do the Argentinians even understand what it means to have sovereignty?

    Falklands – Argentina's Sovereignty Aspirations (1 pg): https://www.academia.edu/34583696/Falklands_Argentinas_Sovereignty_Aspirations

    Apr 25th, 2018 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • The Voice

    Fantasists are Thick on the ground in Argieland..

    Apr 25th, 2018 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Chicureo

    This idea is proof why drinking cheap Mendoza rock gut wine in large quantities results in ridiculous proposals.

    Apr 25th, 2018 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Liberato

    kelperabout, it is not only Argentina that thinks the islands are a colony, a territory with a colonial situation, but the United Nations too.
    Argentina do not want to colonise the islands. That is your opinion only.
    Argentina claims the islands since the very moment they were invaded by britain in 1833. Not for its wealth in natural resources. In fact, It is the United Kingdom that is exploiting oil in the islands.
    And to resume, the Malvinas Islands are not a country. They are a non self governing territory, in a decolonization process.
    https://www.un.org/en/decolonization/pdf/Falkland-Islands(Malvinas)2017.pdf

    Apr 26th, 2018 - 03:34 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • darragh

    Lib

    If Argentina doesn't want to colonise the Falkland Islands why is it so desperate to add it to the Argentine South Atlantic Empire? and don't give me the BS about 1833.

    As for your link, I've read it and the associated documents and it has more lies than the infamous Ruda statement and 'Professor' Kohen put together.

    What is the de-colonisation process?. Will it apply to the whole of South America which only exists because of colonisation by Spain (mostly)? Will you all be going back to your homelands - Italy and Spain - (mostly) - if so, when?

    You know it's Argentine hypocrisy that irritates me more than any other part of the Falklands issue.

    Apr 26th, 2018 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Liberato

    Desperate?. This dispute goes over almost two centuries now. And included a military conflict.

    Apr 27th, 2018 - 03:42 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Islander1

    Liberato - do please provide the evidence that Britain is exploiting the oil?
    Actually nobody is at the moment- and nobody will until the market is right and the sums add up.
    And then it will be the Islands who benefit from the oil revenue - not Britain. Nationality of the company working the oil is irrelevant- after all UK and US and others work oil in your Country - are they exploiting Argentina??

    Trade?- Fantasy! - Cannot happen simply because Arg Customs and other organisations would never sign the paperwork for exports from Argentina to the Islands(as that would mean Arg Govt admitting we were foreign territory) - and without such paperwork goods of course cannot enter the islands- standard international business and biosecurity rules.

    Apr 27th, 2018 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    Liberato

    If Argentina isn't desperate why has the “dispute goes over almost two centuries now. And included a military conflict” - If you keep on about something for 200 years then that sure sounds like desperation to me but then you are entitled to your opinion. Just a pity then that Argentina (and you) can't extend the same courtesy to the Falkland Islanders

    I notice you didn't respond to my statement about your links or to my question about when the rest of SA is to be de-colonised

    As I said 'hypocrisy'.

    Apr 27th, 2018 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @kelperabout. I don't see your “problem”. For a start, the Falkland Islands don't need to “declare” independence in the way that this Vinuela character suggests. The Islands simply need to discuss the situation with Britain. The Islands could become independent but with an association agreement and a defence agreement with Britain. On the ground, nothing would change. The Falkland Islands could offer training facilities for British armed forces, suitable harbours for British warships, including submarines, and fleet auxiliary vessels, a long-term lease on Mount Pleasant. Say 99-year agreements and leases that renew automatically. After all “association” is one of the “legitimate” grounds on which a territory can be removed from the UN's non-self-governing territories list. The last time I looked you've got some dim, argie female in Tierra del Fuego that thinks she's the “governor”. On the other hand, you know that you've got nearly 100% British goodwill and support. I exclude some looney character called Corbyn who has no concept of such things as loyalty, principles, responsibility and so forth. Largely because he has none of those characteristics himself.

    However, there's a potentially useful situation to be had here. You can see that Vinuela wants a “Commercial and Cultural Office”. No doubt he sees an opportunity to infiltrate some argies as “staff”. However, there's no reason why your government couldn't impose some conditions. Like those “staff” having to live on the premises. Food etc having to be imported. No movement except within a specified distance from the “Office”. Communications only via monitored means. And it would give you something to burn down anytime that you fancied!

    Apr 27th, 2018 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Yaigulah3x

    England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.

    Apr 30th, 2018 - 03:43 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • The Voice

    Argentina appears to be inhabited by millions of desperate people fixated on stealing other peoples property whether it be handbags wallets phones or homes.

    Saddos!

    May 01st, 2018 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +1

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