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Brazil's Supreme Tribunal begins to address Lula's case on May 4th

Friday, April 27th 2018 - 12:24 UTC
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Brazil’s Supreme Federal Court (STF) is to vote on a motion starting May 4 that could potentially release ex-president Lula da Silva from prison, the court said. Lula's defense team hopes to overturn a decision by Sergio Moro, a federal judge and head of a key corruption investigation that determined he had to begin serving a 12-year sentence for accepting bribes. Read full article

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  • :o))

    Is there any OTHER way?

    https://www.otempo.com.br/polopoly_fs/1.1604746.1524784423!image/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/main-charges-resize_620/image.JPG

    Apr 28th, 2018 - 02:51 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Enrique Massot

    Let's see what the generals say in anticipation to the ruling.

    Apr 28th, 2018 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • :o))

    The Generals can “SAY” a lot but their inability to control one city - RJ [& the cartels]; is already a proof, sufficient enough to visualize their performance in controlling an entire country. The population may better be off with Lulla:
    https://i1.wp.com/www.humorpolitico.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Noticias-para-Lula.jpg?resize=580%2C420&ssl=1

    Apr 29th, 2018 - 03:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    The fact that Lula's petition will be judged by the 2nd group of the STF, formed by 5 judges, 3 of which are his 'friends' (Toffoli, Lewandowski, Mendes), the chances are they will let him walk.
    With their customary benevolence shown to criminals, these 3, representing the majority, will decide that his incarceration is unfair. They’ll use the most absurd arguments to justify their decisions, then probably send him home, under house arrest, with a few restrictive measures, amongst which the prohibition to 1) engage in political activity – which Lula won't respect, but will not be punished – and 2) be a candidate.
    And all this despite being convicted in two lower courts - by four judges – having his repeated appeals thrown out by the STJ (unanimously, by another 5 judges) and by the STF (6 of the 11 judges) which only 2 years ago established jurisprudence (reconfirmed 1 month ago) that allows the sentence to be enforced as soon as all appeals submitted to the TRF-4 (2nd lower court) are exhausted. Smells like he'll get off pretty lightly for taking bribes and laundering millions, and for screwing Brazil in the process. The PT however, will keep on complaining, insisting that Lula is their eternal candidate, even if just for show. And of course, the fact he is a defendant in another 6 federal cases, is unimportant. The STF's ”cowardice” will be tantamount to sending the message to Congress and all politicians that corruption is ok, parliamentary immunity even better, and that the Brazilian people deserve to be treated like fools...some things will never change.

    Apr 29th, 2018 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • :o))

    @JB:

    REF: “some things will never change”:

    Indeed! But now there is some “improvement” as well! By legalizing and promoting all kinds of gambling & betting activities; see how easier they are making - for themselves - to launder their illicit wealth!

    Apr 30th, 2018 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    @JB

    Isn't it laudable JB's zeal that justice be served--in the case of Lula of course--never mind the other accused in Lava Jato and similar cases.

    Hey, JB's anxiety levels are going through the roof as another tribunal gets ready to examine whether to keep Lula behind bars. Not a word and no JB's posting on the MP story about Brazil's Federal Police investigation on Michel Temer's money laundering scheme that allowed the vice-president to invest in some “home improvement” deals.

    JB's fear of Lula is so, he is already speculating that a majority in the tribunal are Lula's “friends” and that this fact could determine their vote--favourable to the former president.

    ”With their customary benevolence shown to criminals, these 3...will decide that (Lula's) incarceration is unfair (and) use the most absurd arguments to justify their decisions...“

    And so, thanks to JB's sharp analysis, a ruling favourable to Lula will not have any judicial basis--that's a given--but instead will be due to the judges who are Lula's friends--hey, not only that, friendly to ”criminals“ in general!

    So why put judges, or even the electors, to make decisions? JB has already rendered his own judicial and political, unappealable, judgement:

    ”Smells like (Lula) will get off pretty lightly for taking bribes and laundering millions, and for screwing Brazil in the process,” he notes.

    Wow. Little did we know. That may be why Lula is riding so high in opinion polls. Thanks JB for rescuing us from utter ignorance!

    Apr 30th, 2018 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Jack Bauer

    @EM
    “Isn't it laudable JB's zeal that justice be served--in the case of Lula of course--never mind the other accused in Lava Jato and similar cases”.

    Reekie, when the 'similar' cases, of 'other accused', from 'other' parties, reach the courts, and the culprits start being convicted, let's see what you have to say...just fyi, the ex-governor of Rio (PMDB) is doing an 87 year sentence ....for benefiting from the PB corruption - just like Lula. Other PMDB politicians should be charged soon.

    “Hey, JB's anxiety levels”, “JB's fear of Lula is so...”, ...See you are now a psychiatrist....can you read my mind ? how smart of you...NOT.

    “thanks to JB's sharp analysis, a ruling favourable to Lula will not have any judicial basis-”

    You got that right...but let's wait 'n see....IF you were as knowledgeable about Lula's process as you think you are, you would know, by older as well as more recent decisions taken by the 3 Supreme Court Justices mentioned, that they will always favour Lula (two were affiliated to the PT before being appointed to the STF)...looks like when the judges go against Lula, they are SOBs, when they favour him, they are saints....right, Reekie ? LOL.

    “JB has already rendered his own judicial and political, unappealable, judgement:”

    How patheic can you get, Reekie ?...it is only my 'opinion', far from an 'unappealable' judgment. Can't I have it ?

    As for Lula 'riding high in the polls', first of all the PT is trying to fool the idiots that he can still actually be a candidate (does that say nothing to you about the PT's intentions and/or the intelligence of Lula's supporters ???....didn't think so.)
    Second, only in polls where Lula's name is mentioned, amongst those of the other candidates, does he currently score 30%....down from 37% in January ; and in spontaneous polls where no names are mentioned, he drops to 13%.....“who'd have thunk it”, eh Reekie ?
    I do realize however, that to save YOU from utter ignorance, is IMPOSSIBLE.

    Apr 30th, 2018 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • :o))

    @JB & @EM:

    Lulla is/isn't a crook - in spite of the proof - is secondary.

    During his [& consequently, PT's] popularity; kept them in power for about 15 years.

    The problem - THE real problem - is that PT got the country when its economic-health was not so bad but at the end of 15 years; it went TOTALLY bust and NOBODY else but only HE [PT] was totally responsible!

    May 01st, 2018 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Jack Bauer

    @:o))
    Referring to my above post to EM, funny he doesn't defend Cabral - Rio's ex-governor - who is serving an 87 year sentence. I'd like EM to tell us what is so different between Lula and Cabral....both were politicians, both were corrupt, both have been tried and convicted....Ah, but they are from different parties....that must be it......EM defends Lula because he likes “lefties” and because of a 'petista' rumour - never proved, but with plenty of evidence to the contrary - that Lula 'lifted 40 million “out-of-poverty”...Dilma said it was 100 million...so we must conclude that more than half the Brazilian population is middle-class, OR, well-off, and that the recession is just a farce....Don't know how I could be so blind...living here and not seeing it. Will have to get new glasses.

    May 01st, 2018 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • :o))

    @JB:

    REF: “Lula and Cabral....both were politicians, both were corrupt, both have been tried and convicted”:

    Perhaps EM will wait till Cabral becomes the President; in which case Lulla = Cabral!
    https://amarildocharge.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/blog22.jpg?w=1400

    May 02nd, 2018 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Jack Bauer

    @:o))
    Reekie must have a reading disorder, perhaps dyslexia........can't he understand simple English ?
    You explain how the law works, but he doesn't understand, he keeps on fantasizing that his heros have to be innocent, that the judiciary - and we can't forget, JB - is out to 'get' Lula.....how awful...
    To Reekie, Cabral is irrelevant because he WAS from Temer's party.

    May 02nd, 2018 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • :o))

    @JB:

    REF: “Reekie must have a reading disorder”:

    Surely; you mean a “MENTAL” disorder which keeps him [her? it?] obscured from the reality!

    May 03rd, 2018 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @:o))
    looks like “alguem” has visited here, and instead of participating like a normal person, has ticked the minus points and sneaked out the back door....wonder 'who' ?

    May 04th, 2018 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • :o))

    @JB

    MUST be VERY busy, celebrating:
    http://domtotal.com//img/charges/2077.jpg
    [psssst! Lulla WILL be FREE as desired by too MANY!]

    May 05th, 2018 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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