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UK and Spain discuss Brexit and Gibraltar in Madrid: “constructive meeting”

Monday, May 21st 2018 - 08:26 UTC
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Gibraltar was discussed in Madrid on Saturday during a wide-ranging meeting on Brexit between the UK’s Minister for the Cabinet Office, David Lidington, and Spanish Minister for Foreign Affairs, Alfonso Dastis. Speaking after the meeting, Mr Lidington expressed confidence that a constructive agreement would be reached on Gibraltar’s post-Brexit relations with Spain and the wider EU. Read full article

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  • Brit Bob

    Spanish View - When Great Britain and Spain concluded the Treaty of Utrecht, the Spanish government believed that the Treaty recognized British possession, but not sovereignty, of Gibraltar. Spain argues that even if the word “propriety” generally includes sovereignty, the cession in this Treaty was explicitly limited in its scope. The Spanish contend that the Treaty grants Great Britain a “propriety,” but “without territorial jurisdiction.” (Who's Rock is it Anyway? The Legal Status of Gibraltar, The Fordham Institute of International Law, Vol 18 , (I), Article 8, Lincoln S.J.,1994, p307, quoting Levie, supra note 18, at 32).

    Worth looking at...

    Gibraltar – 'Without Territorial Jurisdiction' 1 pg
    https://www.academia.edu/33068906/Gibraltar_-Without_any_Territorial_Jurisdiction

    May 21st, 2018 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Brit Bob. I understand that Spain's lawyers have said, over the years, that it doesn't have a leg to stand on.

    Which is why it's never prepared to go to the ICJ.

    Besides, I believe that, once upon a time, I counted that Spain had breached the treaty 17 times. Why should we pay any attention to it?

    May 21st, 2018 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Brit Bob

    Conqueror

    I agree. It is merely the deeds to the territory and the 'no Jews nor Moors shall live on the Rock' just goes to prove how human rights laws have progressed. In any case self-determination applies and kills off the 'return clause.'

    May 21st, 2018 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Juana

    The question is why is this piece appearing in Mercopenguin, a British government propaganda organ supposedly devoted to America, South America and the “South Atlantic”?

    May 30th, 2018 - 02:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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