Brazil's Supreme Court has cancelled a ruling set for Tuesday on an appeal by former president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva to be freed from prison while he attempts to overturn his corruption sentence. Read full article
This is not a setback for Lula, but it is one for Brazil's judges working for the interests of powerful minorities.
Brazilians don't buy that Lula has been put behind bars because of corruption. Too many others accused of heavy weight corruption cases (nothing compared to receiving an apartment as a bribe) are now sitting in government offices. That is why he is, by far, the preferred candidate - to the desperation of the rich and the powerful.
No matter the outcome, what happens in the October election will have irremediably been tainted by the judiciary's interference.
However, it is impossible for the Brazilian elite to erase from people's memory what Lula did for them as president.
Therefore, as Lula said, it does not matter what happens to him - because he has become an idea, a symbol that a more just society is possible in Brazil.
@EM
Do you really think that the STF could set Lula free after being condemned in three different courts (Moro, TRF-4, and STJ), unanimously, by 8 judges ? And, if one considers that the STF is not allowed to refer to any of the evidence (in favour of, or against the defendant, which can only be presented /used in the 2 lower courts), how can they possibly release him, unless of course, they choose to ignore the previous decisions (based on proof), and are prepared to admit that their decision was 100% political ? In this case, if a political decision - that ignores evidence - can annul all the prior convictions, what is the point of trying anyone in court ?
The only Brazilians who allegedly don't 'buy' Lula's corruption are his fanatical supporters, who would vote for him even if he confessed, so pls don't generalize by saying Brazilians.
Despite the fact I have already given you names of several other prominent politicians, from other parties, who have been convicted in the 'Lavajato' and are in jail, you insist that only Lula was condemned unjustly...that is not correct, all involved in the PB (and other) corruption have been targeted...even Temer...wait until he steps down.
Just a final question : presuming you are capable of recognizing that PB was the victim of rampant corruption by its directors - all appointed by high-ranking politicians (for personal gain and that of their parties) - and top executives from the big construction companies, and that they have confessed to their crimes - and returned 100s of miilions of dollars of bribe money - where do you believe other stolen billions went ? Why do the politicians fight, tooth and nail, to appoint directors in state-run companies ? for no reason at all ?
Agree, Lula is just an idea, one that's quickly fading in people's minds.
But no one will forget his legacy : ruining PB and the economy under the false pretense of 'lifting millions out of poverty'...more like a sick joke.
The only Brazilians who allegedly don't 'buy' Lula's corruption are his fanatical supporters...
These Brazilians happen to be a majority, more than enough to make Lula their next president.
JB insists in claiming impartiality of a process that started off by breaking democratic rule so that the following steps that would end in Lula jailed to prevent him from being the next Brazilian president could be taken.
The guy in charge since the ousting of Dilma is an accused corrupt himself -- but never mind -- his time will come, JB assures us. Sure!
We've left the cradle a long time ago and don't listen anymore to bedtime stories, JB.
REF: JB insists in claiming impartiality of a process that started off by breaking a democratic rule so that the following steps that would end in Lula jailed to prevent him from being the next Brazilian president could be taken:
@EM
These Brazilians happen to be a majority, more than enough to make Lula their next president.....Wrong. They are not the majority...where did you read that ? and the fact the less-informed still support Lula, does not erase his crimes...what can't you understand about the fact that Lula is a convicted criminal ?...I know you'll insist on the fallacy of raising millions out of poverty, but even IF true, still does not mean he should be pardoned.
You, once again, show you are not familiar with the evidence presented in the two lower courts. Until you are, it's useless trying to debate this subject with you.
Re Temer, wait and see....once he steps down, his case might even end up with Moro....
It's obvious you haven't left the cradle, and keep on dreaming.
@:o))
It's no use ...Reekie selects what he wants to believe.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAnother judicial setback for Lula.
Jun 25th, 2018 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse -2This is not a setback for Lula, but it is one for Brazil's judges working for the interests of powerful minorities.
Brazilians don't buy that Lula has been put behind bars because of corruption. Too many others accused of heavy weight corruption cases (nothing compared to receiving an apartment as a bribe) are now sitting in government offices. That is why he is, by far, the preferred candidate - to the desperation of the rich and the powerful.
No matter the outcome, what happens in the October election will have irremediably been tainted by the judiciary's interference.
However, it is impossible for the Brazilian elite to erase from people's memory what Lula did for them as president.
Therefore, as Lula said, it does not matter what happens to him - because he has become an idea, a symbol that a more just society is possible in Brazil.
Lula's legacy will not be erased.
@EM
Jun 25th, 2018 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Do you really think that the STF could set Lula free after being condemned in three different courts (Moro, TRF-4, and STJ), unanimously, by 8 judges ? And, if one considers that the STF is not allowed to refer to any of the evidence (in favour of, or against the defendant, which can only be presented /used in the 2 lower courts), how can they possibly release him, unless of course, they choose to ignore the previous decisions (based on proof), and are prepared to admit that their decision was 100% political ? In this case, if a political decision - that ignores evidence - can annul all the prior convictions, what is the point of trying anyone in court ?
The only Brazilians who allegedly don't 'buy' Lula's corruption are his fanatical supporters, who would vote for him even if he confessed, so pls don't generalize by saying Brazilians.
Despite the fact I have already given you names of several other prominent politicians, from other parties, who have been convicted in the 'Lavajato' and are in jail, you insist that only Lula was condemned unjustly...that is not correct, all involved in the PB (and other) corruption have been targeted...even Temer...wait until he steps down.
Just a final question : presuming you are capable of recognizing that PB was the victim of rampant corruption by its directors - all appointed by high-ranking politicians (for personal gain and that of their parties) - and top executives from the big construction companies, and that they have confessed to their crimes - and returned 100s of miilions of dollars of bribe money - where do you believe other stolen billions went ? Why do the politicians fight, tooth and nail, to appoint directors in state-run companies ? for no reason at all ?
Agree, Lula is just an idea, one that's quickly fading in people's minds.
But no one will forget his legacy : ruining PB and the economy under the false pretense of 'lifting millions out of poverty'...more like a sick joke.
@JB:
Jun 26th, 2018 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +1REF: Do you really think that the STF could set Lulaa free:
If Dercio - his right hand [partner in crime] - can be set free as NOT [at all] guilty (I DID predict it)]; WHY NOT Lulla?
https://i0.wp.com/www.humorpolitico.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/STF-solta-Dirceu-1.jpg?resize=580%2C201&ssl=1
@JB
Jun 27th, 2018 - 04:27 am - Link - Report abuse -3The only Brazilians who allegedly don't 'buy' Lula's corruption are his fanatical supporters...
These Brazilians happen to be a majority, more than enough to make Lula their next president.
JB insists in claiming impartiality of a process that started off by breaking democratic rule so that the following steps that would end in Lula jailed to prevent him from being the next Brazilian president could be taken.
The guy in charge since the ousting of Dilma is an accused corrupt himself -- but never mind -- his time will come, JB assures us. Sure!
We've left the cradle a long time ago and don't listen anymore to bedtime stories, JB.
@EM:
Jun 27th, 2018 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0REF: JB insists in claiming impartiality of a process that started off by breaking a democratic rule so that the following steps that would end in Lula jailed to prevent him from being the next Brazilian president could be taken:
Democratic RULE? In Brazil? Democracy - Brazilian Style:
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@EM
Jun 27th, 2018 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These Brazilians happen to be a majority, more than enough to make Lula their next president.....Wrong. They are not the majority...where did you read that ? and the fact the less-informed still support Lula, does not erase his crimes...what can't you understand about the fact that Lula is a convicted criminal ?...I know you'll insist on the fallacy of raising millions out of poverty, but even IF true, still does not mean he should be pardoned.
You, once again, show you are not familiar with the evidence presented in the two lower courts. Until you are, it's useless trying to debate this subject with you.
Re Temer, wait and see....once he steps down, his case might even end up with Moro....
It's obvious you haven't left the cradle, and keep on dreaming.
@:o))
It's no use ...Reekie selects what he wants to believe.
@JB:
Jun 28th, 2018 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0True!
There's NEVER a shortage of ONE product - RUBBISH:
https://veja.abril.com.br/blog/radar/filho-de-bolsonaro-volta-a-perder-a-mao-sobre-o-stf-um-lixo/
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