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Falklands 1690, when English Captain John Strong made the first recorded landing

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The Falkland Islands derive their name from Falkland Sound, the name given to the waterway between the two main islands, East and West Falkland by Captain John Strong, who spent several days in the Islands on his ship Welfare in January 1690. Read full article

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  • Malvinense 1833

    Happy New Year to Pugol H and his family! May it be a year of great success and prosperity.
    Mercopress, Mercopress, you need to do some more research! John Strong? Please!

    170 years before Strong set foot on the islands, Andrés de San Martín landed there and charted them. 170 years earlier!

    Please double-check your information to ensure it's accurate.

    https://www.canal26.com/historia/2025/12/11/una-historia-silenciada-durante-siglos-andres-de-san-martin-el-hombre-que-dibujo-las-islas-malvinas-antes-que-existieran/

    Feb 02nd, 2026 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Terence Hill

    Regardless the UK can rely on the Peace of Utrecht, which explicitly bars any Argentine claim of succession.
    “...it is hereby further agreed and concluded, that neither the Catholic King, nor any of his heirs and successors whatsoever, shall sell, yield, pawn, transfer, or by any means, or under any name, alienate from them and the crown of Spain, to the French, or to any other nations whatever, any lands, dominions, or territories, or any part thereof, belonging to Spain in America.”

    “The English navigator John Davis in the Desire may have been the first person to sight the Falklands, in 1592, but it was the Dutchman Sebald de Weerdt who made the first undisputed sighting of them about 1600.”
    https://www.britannica.com › place › Falkland-Islands › History

    “1690 - First Recorded Landing
    An English navigator Captain John Strong, in his ship the Welfare makes the first recorded landing on the Falklands - believed to be at Bold Cove, Port Howard, on the west island.

    Captain Strong named the channel dividing the two main islands “Falkland Sound” after Viscount Falkland, Treasurer to the Royal Navy”
    https: //falklands-museum.com/early-history

    Feb 02nd, 2026 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Malvinense 1833

    @ Terence
    @Mercopress

    Strong? Davis? Andrés de San Martín 1.520

    It has been established that the first specific map of the islands was made in 1520. This emerges from the French manuscript (1586) Le Grand Insulaire et pilotage d’André Thevet Angoumoisin, cosmographe du Roy, dans lequel sont contenus plusieurs plants d’isles habitées et deshabitées et description d’icelles”, kept at the National Library of France and now available on the Internet. This map was drawn by the Captain and Pilot Andrés de San Martín, a member of Magellan’s crew, who seems to have travelled to Spain on the ship “San Antonio” (under the command of the pilot Alvaro de Mesquita) as part of Magellan’s expedition. This was the first crew to set foot on the Falklands/Malvinas, as proven by the records of Alonso de Santa Cruz published in his work El Yslario general de todas las yslas del mundo, enderecao a la S.C.C. Magestad del Emperador y Rey nuestro Señor, por Alonso de Santa Cruz, su cosmógrafo mayor, where the author describes in detail the stopover of Magellan’s ships at Puerto San Julián, and the survey of what at present we know as the Falklands/Malvinas, which he calls “Ysla de Sansón y de Patos”, and named “Isles de Sanson ou des Geantz” by Thevet.

    https://www.robertoarnaiz.com/post/andr%C3%A9s-de-san-mart%C3%ADn-el-cart%C3%B3grafo-espa%C3%B1ol-que-descubri%C3%B3-las-malvinas

    Feb 02nd, 2026 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Terence Hill

    “It has been established that the first specific map of the islands was made in 1520”

    It has been established that the sovereignty was, and is indisputably British; under all the required tenets of international law.

    Feb 02nd, 2026 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Malvinense 1833

    @Mercopress

    .....instead the Islands were entirely unoccupied until 1764/66, when they were first claimed by the British who established a garrison at Port Egmont. Over the years, the British, French and Spanish periodically had garrisons within the Islands.

    It's clear that Mercopress is imprecise with its information, providing ambiguous and confusing data.
    The islands were occupied by the French on Spanish territory.
    The British clandestinely established themselves in Port Egmont/Port of the Crusade two years later.

    ‘Desire the Right’.

    @Terence

    Based on the historical data provided, the supposed British sovereignty is perfectly debatable.

    Feb 03rd, 2026 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Terence Hill

    “The British clandestinely established themselves in Port Egmont/Port of the Crusade two years late”

    You bear the burden of proof. No proof no truth.

    “An assertion is a statement offered as a conclusion without supporting evidence. Since an argument is defined as a logical relationship between premise and conclusion, a simple assertion is not an argument.”
    Ignoring the Burden of Proof http ://learn.lexiconic.net/fallacies/index.htm

    Feb 03rd, 2026 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Malvinense 1833

    “You bear the burden of proof. No proof no truth”

    There are archives and historical documents in English, French, and Spanish.
    You can even find them in books.
    Anyone who wants to investigate and learn the truth can do so.
    Regards.

    Feb 03rd, 2026 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Terence Hill

    ”ei incumbit probatio, qui dicit, non qui negat (cum per rerum naturam factum negantis probation nulla sit)-the burden of proof lies upon him who affirms, not on him who denies, (since by the nature of things, he who denies a fact cannot produce any proof). The claimant is always bound to prove: the burden of proof lies on him. Upon the one alleging, not upon him denying, rests the duty of proving. Upon the plaintiff rests the proving or the burden of proof,”
    Soma's Dictionary of Latin Quotations, Maxims and Phrases: A Compendium of ..

    Feb 03rd, 2026 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Roger Lorton

    No Spaniard saw the Falkland Islands before 1767.
    Easily proven, due to a report sent to Madrid by Manuel de Amat y Junyent Planella Aymerich y Santa Pau, Royal Governor of the Captaincy General of Chile. He clearly had been asked to report on what was known about the Falklands.

    Source = Amat a Arriaga abril 8, 1758 in Colección De Documentos Relativos A La Historia De Las Islas Malvinas Universidad De Buenos Aires Tomo I 1957 pp.23-26

    My pages 119 to 121

    https://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/1480-to-1762-1.pdf

    “On April 8, 1758, Don Manuel Amat y Junient – in his capacity as President of the Royal Audience of Santiago de Chile – sent the Secretary of the Navy and the Indies, the Bailío Fray Julián de Arriaga, some “Geographical notes” … Regarding the archipelago that interests us, in the document there are two statements by Manuel Amat that shine with their own light. The first is the one that ensures that “... its existence cannot be doubted ...” (which allows us to assume that, until then, it could). The second is the one that refers to the rumor about the settlement of an English colony on those islands. On this point, he wrote, its source was ”... a letter written from London to an Englishman named Don David, one of those who were imprisoned in those parts, due to the shipwreck of the Anson's ship” [Malvinas: de periferia del mundo conocido a centro de una disputa global (1758-1767) Darío Gabriel Barriera 2020 citing AGI 552,1]

    PS - Terence Hill, had an ArgZit pop up on X. Thought I recognised it. Still putting arguments about the use of force that you beat him on in 2023 ;-)

    Feb 04th, 2026 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Jack Jones

    I see Pinocchio is back again with is garbage and lies, clandestine ffs.

    Feb 04th, 2026 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Malvinense 1833

    Roger Lorton, as always, is trying to confuse, rewrite, and distort history.

    The South Atlantic was an area of ​​no interest to the Spanish, unlike the South Pacific.
    The letter from Manuel Amat y Junyet that you cite is very important because it supports the Spanish and Argentine position. It demonstrates:
    - that the Falkland Islands were known
    - that the Spanish considered the area their own because there were rumors of an English settlement on the islands
    - that after Admiral Anson (1.749) permission to explore the Falklands and Pepys Islands, the South Atlantic began to be considered important. (Anson request for permission to explore is yet another piece of evidence that the islands were not British.)
    Finally, Manuel Amat y Junyet's account was a “rediscovery” of what was already known.
    Whom should I believe? Lorton, who says that no Spaniard saw the islands before 1767?
    Or should I believe Andrés de San Martín, who mapped the islands in 1520, a map now held in the National Library of France?
    Include the map in your pamphlet from now on.

    Feb 06th, 2026 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Jones

    Troll, Roger Lortons historical research is a 1000 times more truthful and accurate than Kohen -Rodriquez and your fantasies, lies and distortions, grow up and get a life you silly little boy,

    Feb 06th, 2026 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    “- that the Spanish considered the area their own because there were rumors of an English settlement on the islands”

    Since the historical record confirms that UK occupation preceeded Spains. They have the sole colour of right.

    “First in time, first in right”.

    Primus in tempore potior (est) in iure. prē´mūs ēntām´pōrā pō´tēōr(āst) ēn yū´rā. prī´mus in tem´pōrē pō´šɜr (est) in jɜ´rē.
    “The first in time (is) the more powerful in right.” A maxim meaning that the first to acquire possession of property may claim a superior right to the property relative to others who acquire possession later in time....”
    https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780197583104.001.0001/acref-9780197583104-e-1713

    Feb 07th, 2026 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Esteban Domingo Fernandez

    It doesnt matter who saw the islands first, that is up for debate as no one knows for certain., but what is clear is they where claimed by England in 1594. and the claim reiterated in 1690, and then again in the mid 1700s.the UP was not in the game, Spain and France neither, its not Roger Lorton that twists and distorts the history of these islands it is you 1833. your fanatical obsession has stopped you from thinking clearly. historical Spanish maps shows them as British, go research it. for the thousandth time tell your government to take your evidence to the ICJ if you are so confident of your nonsense , what a ridiculous person you have become, no credibility, what so ever,

    Feb 08th, 2026 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    @Terence @Esteban @ Mercopress

    It has been mentioned many times:
    -As has been demonstrated, the islands were already mapped by Spain in 1520.
    -England had no right to claim Spanish territory.

    -According to the law of the time, a claim is invalid if it is not followed by occupation.

    -The first country to publicly occupy the islands was France, not England.

    -The Spanish government protested the French occupation of its territory.

    -The English government did not protest the French occupation.

    -France recognized Spanish sovereignty and transferred the islands to Spain.

    England did not protest the transfer of sovereignty to Spain.

    That's how simple and clear it is, without lies: the islands were never british.

    Capisce?

    Feb 09th, 2026 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Terence Hill

    “The first country to publicly occupy the islands was France, not England.”

    Thus, with France's vacancy, that left the UK with the strongest claim.
    Ergo, Spain´s claim was diminive compared to the UK's.

    “First in time, first in right”.

    Primus in tempore potior (est) in iure. prē´mūs ēntām´pōrā pō´tēōr(āst) ēn yū´rā. prī´mus in tem´pōrē pō´šɜr (est) in jɜ´rē.
    “The first in time (is) the more powerful in right.” A maxim meaning that the first to acquire possession of property may claim a superior right to the property relative to others who acquire possession later in time....“
    https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780197583104.001.0001/acref-9780197583104-e-1713

    Secondly, Argentina was barred from any claim what so ever.
    The UK can rely on the Peace of Utrecht, which explicitly bars any Argentine claim of succession.
    ”...it is hereby further agreed and concluded, that neither the Catholic King, nor any of his heirs and successors whatsoever, shall sell, yield, pawn, transfer, or by any means, or under any name, alienate from them and the crown of Spain, to the French, or to any other nations whatever, any lands, dominions, or territories, or any part thereof, belonging to Spain in America.”

    Feb 09th, 2026 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Jones

    Yet more bollocks and lies from the Argie troll. Spain has never said they claimed the islands first, only you do, Britain told the French to leave as it was British territory, when Spain usurped the islands (your favourite word troll) from Britain and forced the small garrison out Britain protested, threatened to go to war, Spain backed down, a man in a dress who believes in an invisible man in the sky had zero authority over any land or people to say who it belonged too, British history precedes any other nations, and long before the United Provinces existed, if just 5% of your lies where true then Argie governments would have gone to court decades a go, a lie made up by Peron and embellished by successive Argie administrations. the islands where not Spanish. French and certainly not ever Argentinian, 90 years of silence. but most certainly where and are British until the islanders decide other wise, lie as much as you want, it achieves nothing, and that is what they most certainly are, a pack of lies. your nose must be 1 metre long pinocchio,

    Feb 09th, 2026 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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