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Argentina and Venezuela announce a “new world order of relationships”

Wednesday, April 21st 2010 - 03:11 UTC
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Argentina’s President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner and Venezuela’s leader Hugo Chávez said “the new world requires a new logic to accept a new order of relationships” during a meeting held at the presidential palace of Miraflores in Caracas. Read full article

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  • Bubba

    Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off..

    Apr 21st, 2010 - 06:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Christopher UK

    When the plastic princess Kirchener talks of ”of transforming history.” what she really means is rewriting history!!!

    Apr 21st, 2010 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LegionNi

    “Later on Monday, Mrs. Kirchner spoke before the Venezuelan National Assembly in Caracas, and said “my speech during this bicentennial [celebration] is an underserved honour” and added that “the ideas of liberty and equality don't have a nationality, they are universal values that have cut across history, not since 1810, but from before, because they are values that make the human condition.””

    “Liberty” - “Equality” - “they are values that make the human condition” Fine words coming from somebody who would deny the Falkland Islanders these very same things Mrs Kirchner.

    Apr 21st, 2010 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge!

    3. No one deny that to islanders, but they live in argentine land and must respect that, till that happens because it will happen, we will act to defend our interests. You will not be able to violate our rights forever, believe me!!!

    Apr 21st, 2010 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LegionNi

    You really don't get it do you jorge. “Liberty” - Your own president uses the word without understanding it as you clearly don't.

    “Liberty” meaning Freedom, Independance, emancipation etc.

    Your government would deny them the freedom to chose there own destiny, it would deny them their independance. Your President speaks of Liberty but would deny it to others. She is nothing but a hypocrate.

    The people of the islands have freely chosen their own destiny. They wish to remain under British sovereignty.

    The islands are not and never have been Argentine.They will only ever will be Argentine when/if the people of the islands make the decision to become Argentine. They have the “Liberty”, “Freedom” to make that decision for themselves.

    Apr 22nd, 2010 - 07:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    Two nobodies on the world stage announce a new world order.

    How nice.

    Apr 22nd, 2010 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • atk357

    Well...she is acting as if “delusion” were a virtue! Creativity and insanity are separated by a very fine line!

    Apr 22nd, 2010 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge!

    “Liberty” meaning Freedom, Independance, emancipation etc.

    That's what people in Malvinas had till you invaded, SOB!!!

    Apr 23rd, 2010 - 06:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LegionNi

    8 Jorge - ““Liberty” meaning Freedom, Independance, emancipation etc.

    That's what people in Malvinas had till you invaded, SOB!!! ”

    You can't invade what is already yours Jorge. We hadn't given up our sovereignty since we claimed the islands in the 1600's.

    Vernet's PRIVATE venture which was given the go ahead after he asked our permission. When Argentina appointed him governor of land you did not own, Britain objected, then removed your military garrison from the islands in 1833, but gave the settlers the “LIBERTY” to decide if they wanted to stay, which all but a few did.

    Apr 23rd, 2010 - 07:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    ha hah ha Jorge talks of rights that Argentina has to LAND? The same rights you had to patagonia, the Chacos?

    if that is so then after 180 years, don't you think the Islanders have acquired some very strong titles to the land? I mean Argentina's 4 years inhabitation? Couldn't even get their own house in order and the colonists ran amok killed your own governor, started a war with the US, and were more than glad to leave the islands when offered, yeah that really sounds like people enjoying liberty freedom I don't know about emancipation since by my understanding Vernet and and other governors were appointed?

    If the islands are yours, then why isn't the Argentine government able to apply legislation on them? It seems like they are very much not yours! welcome to the real world!

    Apr 23rd, 2010 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gdr

    bubba ! here is not discussion place about your ass !!

    christon ! as i said before that Cristina neither Queen nor Princess...
    she is a President of an independent country !!
    but i take yu as a person who knows all countries have kingdom !

    idlehands !? is this your name or your comment about other
    commentators ...but i guess you are very hardworker to payback
    your country's debts ! on residual time .

    legionerNi and Rhaurie( i don't guess he forgot his own language)
    are the --los hombres libres-- at these comments serials !!

    Apr 23rd, 2010 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    You've got to love that gdr .... whichever planet he's on :-)

    Apr 23rd, 2010 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge!

    no no no y NO!!!!

    Malvinas argentinas!!!!

    Apr 23rd, 2010 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hoytred

    Still confused jorgyboy?? It's YES,YES,YES and YES ... the Falkland Islands are British ..... I'll give you a clue - it's in the name ... now try and work it out there's a good lad :-)

    Apr 24th, 2010 - 02:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • avargas2001

    This is for all the kelpers and british who think they deserve freedom, go back to the motherland as the people from Malvinas where forced to do by the pyrats that came from the british patch of dirt you call England, take your Kelpers home to mama and let them know that even if you stole land it isn't yours, we greant them the freedom to go back home.

    Apr 24th, 2010 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    Port Desire is British y punto!

    Vargas. Is that a Mapuche or Tehuleche name? No, it's Spanish, so stop telling the Falkland Islanders to go back to their “motherland”. You have no leg to stand on. You Argentines just look like idiots when you say stuff like that...

    Apr 25th, 2010 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge!

    and you look like a f*cking pirate archibald!!!!!

    Apr 25th, 2010 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    I'd rather look like a pirate than be an idiot Jorgebobo. It's interesting how you have no counter argument other than a backhanded compliment. Is Vargas not Spanish? Am I not right?

    Apr 25th, 2010 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge!

    It doesn't matter, when spaniards came here, there was people inhabiting this terretory. We are a mix from spaniards and indigenous, but islanders are f*cking implanted, they came to expell argentines and then brought more and more of the same crap. They are ARTIFICIALS!!!!!!!!!!
    And half of the current inhabitants were born in Britain.

    Get the hell out of there unwishables british!!!!

    Apr 25th, 2010 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • avargas2001

    Robert, if I was told by Argentina or Canada to go home I would get my bags and go, aparently I am not a pest or a bother to anyone yet nor am I starting a war for any personal gains, now if you got on a boat to come across the ocean to steal from me I would tell you to get back in your boat and go home, I didn't say the people in Malvinas have to go home they are home if they have their Argentine passports, but I bid anything that none of them have any immigration papers, I am an Argentine in Canada and I had to do them and I never left my continent, what makes you think that British should have any rights, I wonder if racism is really dead or even imperialism for that matter.

    Apr 25th, 2010 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    avargas2001 are you Mapuche perchance?

    No?

    Descended from European immigrants to a land ripped from its indigenous people?

    Yes?

    So how do you have any rights over 9th and 10th generation Falkland Islanders?

    Apr 26th, 2010 - 07:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    Vargas, you never answered the question. Is “Vargas” an indigenous South American name? I think it's Spanish, no? Correct me if I am wrong...

    Apr 26th, 2010 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    No Jorgebobo, the Islanders are not “implanted”. They are descended from people who went there of their own free will, and some are even descended from those Buenos Aires civilians you claim were kicked off.

    You just parrot the Argentine government lies, and all that does is make you look stupid.

    Apr 26th, 2010 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    If they're “implanted” what is the vast majority of the population of Argentina? Oops, Argentina disappears in the logic of its own making.

    Apr 26th, 2010 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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