MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Germany and France demand a “no spying” agreement from Washington
German Chancellor Angela Merkel demanded that the United States strike a “no-spying” agreement with Berlin and Paris by the end of the year, saying alleged espionage against two of Washington's closest EU allies had to be stopped. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesUnited States is the evil empire. To equate the Soviet Union is missing bit.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where are the values of George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Monroe and Franklin Delano Roosevelt?
Oh dear. The problem is that the United States doesn't really trust France or Germany. The United States believes in the Anglosphere. Notably, France ducked out of NATO when it suited. Who knows where Germany's legs are. Would France and Germany share intelligence with Italy or Spain. Two states that are intrinsically untrustworthy. Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania? Sorry, less than trustworthy states like France and Germany need to spend another 50 or 60 years proving they can be trusted. And, even then, will Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the UK trust them? Don't think so. Did Germany join in over Libya? No. And France only works for France.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If each family of nations close within them, the world is truly lost.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Will English on one side, Spanish to another, to another Portuguese, French to another .....
Is it? I hope not.
“The United States has a ”no-spying“ deal with Britain, Australia, New Zealand and Canada, an alliance known as ”Five Eyes.”
Oct 25th, 2013 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anglo-supremacism at it's finest. As Argentina has been saying for DECADES, the Anglo race are a threat to the planet: to other nations, to culture. and to other species (Thylacine, Warrah, Northern Right whale, Passenger Pigeon, Arctic Penguin bird.... just some fine examples).
Time for a grand Sino-Germanic-Slavic-Arab-Latin alliance, and erradicate the problem!
@4 The Truth PaTroll
Oct 25th, 2013 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm starting to give a reason for you, friend.
@3
Oct 25th, 2013 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, not everyone to a corner. Just decent, trust-worthy human beings on one side, and Anglos in the other.
TTT how did you get such a huge inferiority complex at such a young age?
Oct 25th, 2013 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7
Oct 25th, 2013 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you change the subject? Why do the five anglo countries treat each other differently than they treat everyone else? I'm no huge fan of the Bible, but ever read the saying “treat others as you would want to be treated yourself?”
Does that even exist in your society?
@6
Oct 25th, 2013 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oi! liar in chief, if you don't like Anglos then stop using our language our innovation, culture and political systems
“I am no fan of the bible but I am going to use it to support my argument” LOL.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do South Americans go on about their 'brotherhood'? It is simple really, people do business with people they like and trust. Alliances are made up of groups with mutual interests and trust. It is not an unusual concept.
Spying or intelligence gathering has been going on for as long as there have been people. I am not sure why everyone is getting so upset about it. Are Merkel and Hollande trying to say Germany and France have never spied because if so they are lying.
I love the English language, so I will continue using it.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't use your culture certainly, except for some good authors and good music, which you do have (though swamped by the 99% swill that's no good).
I think the political system we use is originally really Roman (a republic with a legislative senate and a executive), based on Roman law, which even quite a bit of British common law is based on.
What was your question again?
Trustworthy Latins, Russians and Chinese?!
Oct 25th, 2013 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bahahahaha
What a f'cking retard.
@10 Elaine,
Oct 25th, 2013 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Nazis started without anyone knowing. In the dark streets of Munich.
Please change your concept of democracy.
“It is simple really, people do business with people they like and trust. Alliances are made up of groups with mutual interests and trust. It is not an unusual concept.”
Oct 25th, 2013 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then why do you self-pluck your feathers when I state here I do not nor will I ever trust an Anglo?
It's just common sense based on the centuries' stack of evidence. An Anglo never keeps his word, ever.
Five Eyes...
Oct 25th, 2013 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AIEEE!....THE EYEBALLS...THE EYEBALLS IN THE SKY!
http://www.shadowgallery.co.uk/perishers/eyeballs.gif
@ 14 TTT
Oct 25th, 2013 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I believe in you, TTT. You're a smart guy who uses convincing arguments. Congratulations!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoCgU5HP4HA
14. What about Argentina's current practice of not honoring contracts, treaties and Int'l law? You could add Venezuela to that list too.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who the heck would believe an Rgs word?
Nobody.
Filthy lying scumbags
Fine, I neve said we were trustworthy to you. I admit it.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have never said “you can trust Argentina” on this website. EVER.
@11/18
Oct 25th, 2013 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Right so you use our language but don't like Britons, thats logical.
Legal system wise you seem to enjoy representative Democracy which in its current form was pioneered by the British, Dutch, Nordic countries with a few nods to the Roman era system which was almost completely un-democratic.
You obviously seem to enjoy press freedom which traces its earliest roots to the Germanic peoples, do you also enjoy Habeas Corpus? What about Due Process? Or the dozens of other political freedoms that have spawned from old Albion?
As for Innovation you appear to be using a computer (British invention) utilising the WWW (another British invention) whilst speaking in the English language and what allowed those three to be used world wide? The industrial revolution (oh yeah you guessed it)
Your narrow mindedness on the subject matter seem to prevent you from realising that the British and other Anglo off-shoots have been the most innovative people in history.
@18 Toby,
Oct 25th, 2013 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I have never said “you can trust Argentina” on this website. EVER.”
Very sensible too. Argies are even lest trustworthy than us.
Ask any recruiter here in Chile how they would evaluate the trustworthiness of an Argie candidate versus say a Canadian or Brit.
I can assure you the reply isn't favorable for the flood of Argies looking for work here.
...
On the subject:
All countries spy on other countries if they can. Likewise, when a country get caught spying on an ally, politicians will make hay. Merkel is just doing her job.
The computer is British?
Oct 25th, 2013 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ok, if you say so, it must be true... WINK WINK WINK WINK WINK WINK
Floods of Argies in Chile?
Sure. Then what is the word descriptor for the number of Chileans in Argentina? El Diluvio universal?
All I see is a Brit and a Chilean desperately seeking some sort of self-validation.
@18
Oct 25th, 2013 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Fine, I neve said we were trustworthy to you. I admit it.
I have never said “you can trust Argentina” on this website. EVER.”
LOL so why are you whining about being treated as untrustworthy when you are?
Umm, no. I was whinGing about the fact the Anglos treat each other with respect, they treat non-Anglos with contempt or lack of respect, and then they wonder why they are not very well treated by others.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Duh.
So you are untrustworthy but deserve respect for that?
Oct 25th, 2013 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You really need to think hard about that.
Britain, Australia, New Zealand and Canada, an alliance known as ”Five Eyes“
Oct 25th, 2013 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol...nooo... this “alliance” is known as the 1 master and 4 ass-slaves “alliance”.
Jump Prime minister, Jump !! Roll over, go to Iraq, paw, spy on your citizens for me. Good boy - have a vicarious greatness biscuit.
mmmm yummy - tastes like empire, but its made out of rohypnol and lube.
What was the wording in the latest released cables again?? ...in reference to Cameron...something along the lines of 'easily influenced' 'malleable' 'pudgy moon-faced child' etc.
@24
Oct 25th, 2013 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You need to think really hard about retaking reading comprehension classes.
@ English idiots
Oct 25th, 2013 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TTT, Alright. These idiots will fight both of us now.
“Estou do seu lado para o que der e vier”!
@ 26 Why are you changing the subject?
Oct 25th, 2013 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, this is too precious. Brasileiro is Robin to TTT's Batman. I am so enjoying this.
> Time for a grand Sino-Germanic-Slavic-Arab-Latin alliance, and erradicate the problem!
Oct 25th, 2013 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's an awful lot of foreigners you're proposing to hook up with there for your race war. Surely you're not becoming more liberal in your attitudes?
Anyway - all that aside. US fears a strong EU, it wouldn't surprise me if the current crises (pl.) were being manipulated or managed to squeeze out a few last years of dominance. Euros here to stay. Europe will be consolidating more, US really shouldn't try this kind of thing again.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Countries have been spying on each other for decades, even 'friendly' nations. The UK has worked with the US in doing this and engages in much intelligence sharing. Merkel knows this and is just making noises because it has made the news. Nothing will change and no trade agreements will be lost over this.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 28
Oct 25th, 2013 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are so fond of sex. Superior indeed. Robin or Batman? Man or Woman?
You are primitive!
Perhaps if it had never gotten out.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But in this instance the public know. There will be changes now to keep the electorate happy. Im sure they'll try with token changes, but the culture of the European public has been awakened now and won't be going back asleep. Yes token changes, which work on the masses, will be used but the appetite of a much grown section of society, with numbers above the level required for complacency, won't be satiated. Snowden, Assange et al have pointed out the turd in the pool.
@29
Oct 25th, 2013 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The enemy of my enemy... (very temporary alliance, then we dump all the foreigners).
@33 Nothing will change. I haven't seen a swell of public opinion requesting change. Nothing will change.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Assange is a narcissistic coward hiding in a minor country's embassy avoiding the law. His paranoia is legendary and anyone who has spent any time with him despises him. Eventually everyone will realise everything he did was all about him and his Messiah complex. It helped no one.
@34 LOL! Your morals and beliefs are flakey. I don't think you even know what you are upset about. You hate everyone but no one more than yourself. Keep fighting, you have Robin hanging on your coattails now and you guys make such a cute couple.
@ 35
Oct 25th, 2013 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I bet you wanted to feel a real man, is not it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK2GQVFjHB4
@36 You are rambling again. You make no sense and I never click on links. If you have something lucid to say, try to find the right words.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A Brazilian saying it, an Argentine saying it... and here you have an Uruguayan saying it.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How symbolic.
You guys really do your best to be disliked...
35 - Really ? You think nothing will change when even Merkels phone gets spied on ? You may have not seen anything...
Oct 25th, 2013 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Im sure I read somewhere that Germany and France are demanding a no spying agreement. Sounds like change.
Re;Assange - your opinion fair enough.
@39 Yes, Merkel has asked for such an agreement and something will be said for the sake of appearances. But nothing will change. Merkel has said it will not affect any trade agreements. Cameron has said he will not apologise for intelligence gathering. The US made some statement about 'reviewing the relevance of their spying rather than just spying because they can'. It is just noise. How on earth can any covert operation be curtailed by agreement? How will anyone know?
Oct 25th, 2013 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@34
Oct 25th, 2013 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see. The usual play. Again. And what makes you think your Sino-Germanic-Slavic-Arab-Latin chums would be so dumb as to fall for it?
@39
You think Merkel had no idea her phone was being spied on before? Perhaps being brought up in East Germany makes you naive?
Yesterday Europeans were generally unaware and it wasn't an issue, today any active thinking European knows about prism.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There may not be an official change -you -can see (other than the title of this article) but there is a now undeniable change in public opinion in Europe. Covert govt changes also, Im sure.
Im sure mutually beneficial trade agreements wont be affected, but theres more to relations than a trade agreement.
If only 5% of Europe's 500 million population would strongly disapprove then the change has already been made, everywhere and in places you can't imagine.
The disfavor is there, Europeans will hold it in consideration when the next instance, issue, crisis rolls around.
@ 40 Dear
Oct 25th, 2013 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm in the bathroom, dreaming of her beauty.
oh...oh..oh.oh.oh
#38 “A Brazilian saying it, an Argentine saying it... and here you have an Uruguayan saying it.”
Oct 25th, 2013 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What IS the lowest common denominator here? South American.......it is fairly low. Is that why you all hate Anglo's and are racists? Are you a Spaniard descent or a native indian......or a little of everything in between....what the world calls ”Mongrels? What are you Mr. Steve.......a runaway Mongrel tossed out or your homeland because the one that fertilized the seeds of mom was a terrorist? You are not even a bastard South American......more of a lost one living in the Anglo world.
You all only hate Anglo's because of the color or your skin.
Interesting.......A_V0ice
Oct 25th, 2013 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No A_Voice, I dislike this lot, not quite representative for the all Anglos.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Although one has to admit it, lately the concentration of good Anglo news is falling dramatically. Maybe it's time to come up with some... penicillin'ish solution of some kind. You know, like the food aid dropped in between da Booms...
The same person talking twice. 44 e 45......como pode ser?
Oct 25th, 2013 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting.......A_V0ice
Oct 25th, 2013 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 047
Oct 25th, 2013 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No Brasileiro not the same person.....look closely at the name...
One is very likely Toby......is my guess
The A_V0ice with the big 0, is Captain Poppy,
Oct 25th, 2013 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He had a login fail some days ago...
50
Oct 25th, 2013 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nooo Pops can't write a whole paragraph without at least 3 or 4 errors...
Eu sou muito burro, não consigo visualizar.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 052
Oct 25th, 2013 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cannot see....... A_Voice..A_V0ice ....the o0...one is o the other is ..0 Zero..
Yes. Thanks
Oct 25th, 2013 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good words by Ms Merkel, even when she´s just talking for Europe.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All of the countries mentioned will continue to spy on each other - no-spy agreement or not. Accessing the personal 'phones of both Merkel and Hollande though, is not merely bad manners, it is humiliating. And especially so when it becomes public knowledge. I expect that that much, at least, will stop.
Oct 26th, 2013 - 04:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0@25 Vestige
A regrettable lapse into vulgarity on your part, if I may say so. In the mid-eighties N.Z. introduced a policy banning nuclear-armed vessels from entering it's waters, a decision directly affecting the U.S. Navy. America was most aggrieved at this action and changed the status of N.Z. regarding both the ANZUS treaty and trade agreements. The U.S. has softened it's attitude in the last decade. The Kiwis haven't changed their policy on nukes. That doesn't fit my definition of an 'ass-slave'.
I have to agree with Casper on that note. The Kiwis are their own policy makers. Canada and Australia are too a softer version of their more reckless cousins...
Oct 26th, 2013 - 07:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don’t think anyone has to complain or sign useless agreement that USAMEX will never honoured.
Oct 26th, 2013 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0The way to go is to create similar spy network with SA and other counties to spy on USAMEX and lapdog Ukistan from Sky, telephone network and everything that use electricity.
You Spy already, but like most things you do, you are no fucking good at it! and you sure as hell do not have the advanced technology for electronic espionage! Stick to writing letters in orange juice, that's about your level of capabilities.
Oct 26th, 2013 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0reality check
Oct 26th, 2013 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0And USA are so darn great at it that everybody knows what they are up to.
Like a jew in Mecca. Excellent spies...
Hahahaha!!
Anti semite.
Oct 26th, 2013 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0What they know, they know because of traitors, one who is in prison and one who can never again return to the homeland he betrayed. No other reason, simple!
Anti semite? Me?
Oct 26th, 2013 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0For saying “like a jew in Mecca”?
Well, thinking about it, it makes just about same sense as the rest of your drivel, so at least you are consistent...
@ reality check
Oct 26th, 2013 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0“advanced technology for electronic espionage”
I am not in the espionage business and I’m not interest on it.
Today you can build super computers that Usamex expend billion of dollar on it from commercial hardware multiplexing them.
Also sats can easily produced to spay anywhere if they like.
But tell me that is a good investment?
After all didn’t prevent 9/11 in USAMEX and other terrorist attacks. The same is applies for Ukistan.
Can you see how waste of resources is that?
Of course I spy on what is related of my own business I have the last move of my competitor I know what they are doing, what are their weakness, etc.
You have no idea how easy is to gather information from former employees, clients, etc.
They will tell you all you want to know and for free.
A frustrated employee, a bad treated client, a person no happy with her or his job is the better source of information.
Now boy tell me are you well paid? Are you happy with your job?
Ha ha
@63 DannyBerger
Oct 26th, 2013 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0You're right, the U.S. failed to detect the 9/11 attacks, but this was a co-ordination failure rather than a question of resources. They had the information, they just hadn't put it together. They also didn't have the same kind of resources they have now - much of which has been created specifically in response to 9/11.
@63
Oct 26th, 2013 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0None of your ferkin business, boy!
@Casper
Oct 26th, 2013 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ha ha ha
Resources without good coordination equal of waste of time and resources.
@reality check
for 10m dollars you will even tell me the last ladyboy you were with.
Money talk do you remember?
Don't worry your secrete is well hidden...
do not be surprised if the news appeared: the United States spies on himself. hahahahaha ...
Oct 26th, 2013 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 042 Vestige (#)
Oct 26th, 2013 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oct 25th, 2013 - 08:12 pm
The majority of the 500 million Europeans strongly object to having their national sovereignty usurped by the EU it hasn't and it won't do them any good. The EU doesn't care what they think and they don't have to. You see there is an irony in all of this.
The EU spouts about us all being one european nation, one people and yet they know that our differences drive enough of a wedge between us that the anti EU lobby could never break up the EU.
Individual nations might regain their independence if they are powerful enough and the political will is there but the EU is here to stay and the Germans are ruling the roost.
My point is that strong objections mean nothing to the EU. It carries on regardless.
@66 DannyBerger
Oct 26th, 2013 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's called 'alphabet agency competition syndrome', and is common to all vast bureaucracies.
'The Eyeballs in the Sky'. #15
Oct 26th, 2013 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah, such gentle memories. Each year for many of my middle years I looked forward to the Perishers and their summer holiday on the rocky shore.
But it wasn't a spy theme, it was a 'God' theme.
I liked it because it took us on a trip of exploration from a different view-point. Dodd had all year to hone each 'Eyeballs in the Sky' annual reprise, and his summer cartoons were honed to thoughtful perfection.
Thanks for the memory, Voice.
70
Oct 26th, 2013 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are welcome...I know about the theme, but when I read Five eyes it triggered a memory of the phrase “AIEEE Eyeballs in the Sky”... from the Perishers.
Still think of it when I see rock pools with little crabs scurrying about..;-)))
14 The Truth PaTroll
Oct 26th, 2013 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“An Anglo never keeps his word, ever.”
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!
I have forgotton the simple joy of browsing this forum just to see your retarded comments!!!
You've got an endless stak of them don't ya? and as for “An Anglo never keeps his word, ever.”
We did say “We will liberate the Falklands from Argentine occupation”
and we did........... Go back to kiddergarden son, you are way out of your depth here...... LOLZ.. So much for
“An Anglo never keeps his word, ever.”
Clown.
“”“” then we dump all the foreigners“”“”
Oct 26th, 2013 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i bet that's what the indigenous of south america have wanted to do for many, many decades.
shame they cant as TT and his pals eradicated them to the point of irrelevance and total deprevation.
And now he tells us THIS is the culture that should dominate the world...
the “romantics”... like the paedophile church of the Vatican you mean?
yeah, that'd be great, they did so well in the past.... and your history in South America is SO good aint it?
68 et al.
Oct 26th, 2013 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Monday an EU delegation is on its way to Washington, along with a separate German delegation (Angela's buddys). Expect a 'No spying' accord on the way soon enough. I'd call that a change.
A change the US really won't want to fck up on.
(Oh dear, do excuse my foul language Casper)
@74 Vestige
Oct 27th, 2013 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse 010 Hail Mary's from you lad, and you shall be forgiven.
The way it appears to me is that the English speaking world actually do trust each other and can share information in a trustworthy and responsible way.
Oct 27th, 2013 - 07:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Spanish speaking world can go ahead and do the same, although, they do not trust each other, they are just one bickering squabble after another.
Germany has been way too close to France in the past and France is definately not to be trusted.
#76
Oct 27th, 2013 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your world view is as simplistic as it is xenophobic.
“You speak English? Great, you are trustworthy...”
I assume there is no crime in your deluded part of imaginary world...
@77 You are right and it shows there are narrow-minded views on both sides. Britworker and TTT say almost exactly the same but from different sides.
Oct 27th, 2013 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Front of house there will be placating noises made but nothing will change behind the scenes. Intelligence gathering will continue. It is interesting that no mention has been made of the times intelligence has been passed to France and Germany to assist them. I am sure it works many ways.
I will find it interesting when the “Snowden Papers” releases the names of the states that are complicit and yet currently still covert in the USA so called spying operations. Will they be the one's opening demanding an explanation of the USA.....all as a public works project? Will they then call the releases lies? That is the word of the next chapter......to be continued........indefinitely.
Oct 27th, 2013 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The United States is a Nazi state. The Anglosphere wants to dominate the world and end all languages, cultures and brunettes in the world. Are Nazis! When you wake up? Latinos, Arabs, Germans, Asians ... we must unite in order to stop the Anglosphere, before it's too late.
Oct 27th, 2013 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuUCSw0LyEA&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A
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Oct 27th, 2013 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So....Brasileiro
“Latinos, Arabs, Germans, Asians ... we must unite in order to stop the Anglosphere”
Where do you think the Anglos came from?
“The Benedictine monk Bede, writing in the early 8th century, identified the English as the descendants of three Germanic tribes:”
.....the Angles, who probably came from Angeln (in modern Germany)
.....the Saxons, from Lower Saxony (in modern Germany
.....the Jutes, possibly from the Jutland peninsula (in modern Denmark...(I very much disagree with this one on location)
Which country was it that tried to dominate the world with a thousand year Reich.....Do you still want to unite with the Germans....;-)
I am a descendant of Pomeranians. I trust in the mines.
Oct 27th, 2013 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These Pomeranians?....;-)
Oct 27th, 2013 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.fluffypoms-pomeranians.net/resources/PUPPY%203.jpg
hahaha.....More or less. Humans is better.
Oct 27th, 2013 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Germans unite with Arabs and Latinos.
Oct 27th, 2013 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What planet are you from?
You've obviously never met a German in your life.
You'd think there would be loads of them in Brazil but they probably keep to themselves. Keep the blood clean and all that.
@78
Oct 28th, 2013 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0So my view was xenophobic was it?
One question. Would you share the UK and US national secrets with France?
Yes or no?
There are many, yankee (#85);
Oct 28th, 2013 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0most 'Germans' live in the white south of Brasil.
I met some in the highlands of Campo do Jordan, SP. - people who liked the 'Swiss Tyrol' uplands.
But my favourite Hun I met each day along the beach - a beer-engineer! - who walked his dogs morning and evening, and always politely enquired about my seaweed-catch (a German with a sense of humour?).
Both he and I lost our guard-dogs to some strange tropical tick-borne virus. Viruses in the blood. Good dogs ... sad.
It's hilarious to see that even such timid countries, with inexpressive leaders, as Germany and France are slapping the US around these days. The spectacle of a weak-kneed superpower getting humiliated is extremely rewarding to those of us who have passed years denouncing the moral depravity and sub-human irrationality of those who run that country.
Oct 28th, 2013 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What we find interesting,
Oct 28th, 2013 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are the insults these countries throw at you for doing exactly the same thing as they are doing,
Almost every country has a spy network and spies on others,
As one expert=expertly put it,
The only real problem here with these ear droppers is that they got caught,
And the grass legs it to a greener field.
.
89 Briton
Oct 28th, 2013 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0....and what is to say that the US will say “Yes, you are quite right, we should never have done it and we won't do it again” and then just not get caught next time?
I'm sorry , but I trust the National Security Agency about as far as I can spit them. Just because they got caught this time, it does not mean that they won't stop doing what they are doing, just because the German lady tells them to stop.
They will just carry on, but find other ways of not getting caught.
“Meet the new boss, same as the old boss”
90 toooldtodieyoung
Oct 29th, 2013 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You may well be correct,
But?
It seems no one likes em; no one likes to be spied on,
[true]
But these security people care not,
And they will be around for decades yet to come,
And of course you are right,
They will say sorry,, and just carry on..
.
The fact that they are spying is not surprising at all.
Oct 30th, 2013 - 08:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is surprising though, is the indifference people have regarding private liberties. Kind of shocking that they have been scared by the media to such a point they are prepared to give up their civil rights in order to avoid a imaginary enemy...
BBC News gives a report from the USA apologising for nothing - not even riding roughshod over their own 4th Amendment.
Oct 30th, 2013 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Their argument is that ALL the spying is in order to stop 'terrorists' from overseas attacking the USA mainland.
Lies, of course.
In my (assertive, not humble) opinion, I believe that the majority of US spying is directed at their commercial competitors and foreign politicians.
Gaining trade advantage by *The US Government* spying on foreign companies is self-evidently illegal, and it contributes to a large fraction of US trade deals, therefore a large fraction of US GDP - paid for by the rump-payers of the US taxation system (not the US rich - who benefit but do not pay for their illegal advantages).
US policy:
Keep the rest of the world as relatively poor as you can, by any means possible.
@GeoffWard2
Oct 30th, 2013 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0“US policy:
Keep the rest of the world as relatively poor as you can, by any means possible.”
Bravo, applause.....
@94
Oct 31st, 2013 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You would do exactly that if the boot was on the other foot. You are all so nieve, who wouldn't want to gain an advantage like that?If you don't you are a hypocrite>
Now your selfishness is the fault of the rest of the World....
Oct 31st, 2013 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But of course!
The truth must be too much to handle, I assume...
#82
Oct 31st, 2013 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”end all languages, cultures and brunettes in the world.”
How about blondes and redheads - are they OK ?
So you are a descendant from the most militaristic state in Germany -Prussia !
That accounts for you obsession of posting videos boasting about the non - existent military might of Brazil
Today Kerry admits “The USA went too far” in its spying.
Nov 01st, 2013 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At last - an admission of guilt.
But it would have been better coming from the President.
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