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The project of a trans-continental railway, Atlantic to Pacific, with Chinese funds

Friday, May 15th 2015 - 07:38 UTC
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Peru, Brazil and China are moving forward on a transcontinental railway that will cut across the continent, climb the Andes and connect port cities in the Pacific and Atlantic coasts. Read full article

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  • Condorito

    “Future studies will determine the route through Peru, but it safe to say that the rail would cross the Andes”

    duh?

    It is also safe to say that it will cut through primary rain forest.

    It is also safe to say that China has excess capacity is steel and manufacturing that needs to be used.

    It is also safe to say these investments a la yanqui that serve only to take raw mineral to port won't benefit the locals through whose land the steel will cut ... unless of course 元/圆 trickle down better than $$$.

    May 15th, 2015 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    The integration and sustainable development of the Amazon is the duty of the Brazilian Federation.
    Our forests were not sleeping in the splendor, with its inhabitants living in the century X.

    Anyway the railroad will not destroy the Amazon. Follows the path of the railroad.

    http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrovia_Transoce%C3%A2nica

    May 15th, 2015 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Condorito

    Well said.

    There is/was a working model of the trans Andean railroad tunnel at the Santiago airport that has been on the books for funding with funds from the Japanese, but nothing has been agreed upon.

    May 15th, 2015 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    The Chinese don't care about the environment or the peasants they hurt/kill.

    File this under “who cares”

    May 15th, 2015 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @2 Bras
    You are displaying that tendency of poorly educated yanquis - lack of knowledge of what happens beyond your national boarders. The Amazon originates in Peru (not Brasil) and is at its most splendid and diverse in Peru (not Brasil).

    I am referring to the Amazon in Peru (not Brasil), where ”The integration and sustainable development of the Amazon is (NOT) the duty of the Brazilian Federation”.

    @Chicureo
    I hope it does go ahead one day. It would be a very scenic route.

    May 15th, 2015 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #5 Condorito

    Link to pictures of the model at the airport.

    http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1507046

    Personally, I think the only way it will be done is if the costs of the Argentine obligation is assumed by someone like China and the Argentine unions are given sweetheart contract concessions.

    May 15th, 2015 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    I thought they would cut through Bolivia direct from Mato Grosso. It could help solve Boilvias sea dispute.

    May 15th, 2015 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Transatlantic railway. Excellent for transporting Chinese military from one coast to the other!

    May 15th, 2015 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    Transatlantic railway Excellent for tying drunken old codger behind train and dragging him 1000's of km's.

    May 15th, 2015 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Is this in future preparation for their invasion forces,
    canals , now railways what next , naval bases just to keep an eye on them perhaps..

    May 15th, 2015 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    @7
    You should not confuse Transoceanica railroad with transoceanic highway “Brazil-Bolivia-Peru”.

    May 15th, 2015 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @3 Chicureo
    'There is/was a working model of the trans Andean railroad tunnel at the Santiago airport that has been on the books for funding with funds from the Japanese, but nothing has been agreed upon.'

    Is that model still there? Since what...2007? Doubt it will ever happen cos of all the usual reasons beginning with 'A'

    May 16th, 2015 - 05:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Enjoy Vila Lobos' Concerto Bachianas Brasilieras - eg Number 2 (theToccata) plays with Aussel's and Maria Bayo's music as the train winds and puffs through the wildness of 'those old British hills'.

    I grew up with this music,
    never imagining that my memories would blossom into something SO (romantically) poetically special.

    It doesn't get better than this.

    May 16th, 2015 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    If China will build it that's fine. It isn't like they can take it with them.

    However considering some of the shoddy work they have been doing in Africa, I'd be extra vigilant in the commissioning phase.

    All these projects do is open the economies up to the world. Peru is already open to the world. So is Chile and Colombia. Must be something in the waters of the Pacific.

    Brazil with 770% of Australia's population exports 50% of what we do. So much room for growth.

    By opening up to more trade with anyone including China, Brazil will eventually take its place as a developed western country.

    May 16th, 2015 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    We are not Western, Skip. We are from the South!

    May 16th, 2015 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    @15 and you dont even know your own country! A rail connection between Brazil, Bolivia and Chile already exists through Corumba.

    May 16th, 2015 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    @16 My country is a giant. Can not know everything.

    May 16th, 2015 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #17
    You prove that time and time again. Have you run out of unrelated youtube videos ?

    May 16th, 2015 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @17. You haven't got a 'country'. You have a territory in which no-one intelligent would live. Hands up those willing to 'live' in a 'country ' where murder is a way of life? New approach. Identify 75% of 202,768,562 and let the remainder die .

    May 16th, 2015 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @5 Condorito
    “I hope it does go ahead one day. It would be a very scenic route.”
    Evertime I heard a train rumbling down the street to the wharves or walked past the station in Antofagasta I would dream of rail travel in South America... best I have managed so far is the shitboxes out of Retiro.....
    @16 redp0ll
    ' A rail connection between Brazil, Bolivia and Chile already exists through Corumba.' and connected with already functioning ports at Arica and Mejillones used to dealing with international through trade...

    And the paint scheme on the FCAB locos is as good as it gets....

    May 16th, 2015 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    I

    May 16th, 2015 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    ?

    May 16th, 2015 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Must be wonderful playing God and casting your racist edicts on all a sundry. Well this dudes not impressed and as far as I'm concerned, “I doubt you can understand the magnitude of the stupidity in your statement” Robert Jordan, The Gathering Storm

    May 17th, 2015 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #12 Frank

    Sorry, but I hit the wrong key and posted before commenting by accident.

    The model was still at the airport as of February. It has been displayed on both the 1st and 3rd floors of the terminal and is possibly still there. Chile has been completely ready to go forward with the project for years, but Argentina continues to stall. From an ecological, political, logistical and financial standpoint, it makes perfect sense.
    The Chilean labor unions do at times become difficult, but they seem to be completely in agreement as well.

    May 17th, 2015 - 07:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @9. Still no bog roll? Pick your kling_ons off by hand. Avoid dietary deficiency.
    @17. Your 'country' is a giant fart. What do we care. Shit and bodies will be good for re-establishing the rain forest.

    May 17th, 2015 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    The bottom line is that the wonderful Mendoza-Los Andes protect will remain stalled as the corruption in Argentina is far to great to overcome. (Even greater than the enormous Andes...)

    May 18th, 2015 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    A rebuild of the Corumba connection would tap into the main grain and mining áreas of Brazil and would also connect with the 3,000 km waterway Parana /Paraguay at Corumba giving access to commodities from Northern Argentina. A new rail link through Porto Velho would bring settlement, illegal logging and the eventual distruction of more pristine rain forest.

    May 18th, 2015 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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